RE: 4th Alaska Coastal Image

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Face looks a bit hot but still a wonderful photo!

cheers,
frank

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From: kwal...@peoplepc.com
Sent: October 3, 2012 10/3/12
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Subject: 4th Alaska Coastal Image

A Sea Otter doing what's natural for the species - looking cool.
Caught around the Inian Islands in The south east Alaska coast.

K20D, 300mm f4.5 FA 

Comments appreciated.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16498759

Kenneth Waller
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RE: GESO September favorites

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A very good month for you!!

cheers,
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From: Larry Colen 
Sent: October 3, 2012 10/3/12
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Subject: GESO September favorites

I got a bit busy and this is a couple of days late:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157631471892470/

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Re: Photographing cars with a strobe?

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GREAT shot, Paul. And one that the LX seems uniquely able to capture (at least 
using your method).

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From: Paul Stenquist 
Sent: October 3, 2012 10/3/12
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Subject: Re: Photographing cars with a strobe?

Doh. The URL… http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16498665&size=lg
On Oct 3, 2012, at 4:01 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> Interesting. Would love to be able to afford a few of those. They appear to 
> be bulb soft boxes as well.
> 
> Some dozen years ago I authored a commercial for Dodge Ram that had the truck 
> climbing a mountain at night in a storm. Barking Weasel, the production 
> company that shot it – on Mammoth Mountain in California – used one big soft 
> box mounted on a crane to simulate moonlight and several huge strobes to 
> simulate lightning flashes. And, of course, a Hollywood rain machine, which 
> is basically a giant overhead sprinkler, and several smoke machines to make 
> fog. Some PAs were assigned to climb trees, so they could drop branches down 
> on the truck as it passed. We even had a wolf who appeared to come snarling 
> out of the bushes, although he was actually shot in a studio and edited in 
> later. The sound track was a woman singing Steppenwolf's "Born to be Wild."
> 
> I don't' have the commercial on line, but I have a still I shot that I took 
> with my LX. Don't remember what lens for sure, but it was probably the 
> M200/4. I just opened the shutter in auto exposure mode and waited for a 
> "lightning bolt" to provide enough illumination and close the shutter. Seen 
> here before, but probably not in the last ten years. Note the heavy grain. 
> Probably ISO 800 film. We used to think that was okay. I was kind of shocked 
> to see the grain when I opened this file today. Hadn't looked at it in ten 
> years or so. Perhaps the grain works here, although it generally seems more 
> appropriate in BW photography.
> 
> Paul
> On Oct 3, 2012, at 2:34 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
>> Nearly broke my Google-fu, but here's the vid ...
>> 
>> http://www.petapixel.com/2012/08/05/shooting-a-mini-cooper-at-night-using-giant-bags-of-light
>> 
>> The bag-o-light is by these guys ...
>> 
>> http://www.licht-technik.com/eng/html/bol_turn.html
>> 
>> This bunch were shooting outside so didn't have the superstructure and
>> needed floating light.
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Paul Stenquist  
>> wrote:
>>> Those giant lighting soft boxes are usually called fisher boxes, after the 
>>> company that makes them and rents them for shoots. You need a studio with a 
>>> superstructure above to mount one, and a lot of equipment to control it. 
>>> The idea is that you can tilt it in such a way that it both lights the car 
>>> and creates an artificial horizon, reflected in the car. They're most often 
>>> used with bulbs (sodium vapor lamps I believe), rather than strobes, since 
>>> that makes it easier to set up the lighting. Plus, the same box can be used 
>>> for television production as well as stills. They're usual augmented with a 
>>> number of flags and flats to fine tune the lighting.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 3, 2012, at 1:52 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>>> 
 There was that car advert BTS video someone posted here a few months
 back (I think) where they showed a giant floating light source that
 turned out to be an enormous softbox. A company specializes in
 building and renting these things for shooting cars.
 
 Besides a large soft light source you'd need to flag a lot of glass,
 chrome and polished areas to improve their contrast in the shot.
 
 When I did a table-top shoot of my light meter for a blog article, I
 used my hand as a flag to block direct light from the 24" softbox onto
 the LCD display. That made an enormous difference to the meter's final
 appearance. All covered in the Light, Science & Magic book.
 
 
 On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 1:21 PM, J.C. O'Connell  wrote:
> Ive never shot cars with flash professionally but I have seen pro setups
> where the flash diffusers are larger than cars! (soft lighting across the
> whole vehicle).
> 
> -
> J.C.O'Connell
> hifis...@gate.net
> -
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 11:26 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: Photographing cars with a strobe?
> 
> I've been shooting cars with flash for more than thirty years, both night
> and day. It isn't a bad idea, but it can be tricky. I don't think it will
> help you achieve nice compositions in a crowded showroom, but it can work
> well as fill in daylight or as illumination at night.
> 
> I used flash for fill on this dreary day sho

RE: Peso - a bridge too far - need help finding where it is (Alabama - I think)

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Can't help with the location but it's a heck of a picture!

cheers,
frank 

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From: Ann Sanfedele 
Sent: October 3, 2012 10/3/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Peso - a bridge too far  - need help finding where it is  (Alabama - I 
think)

Google got me crazy with this...It can only be in Alabama , western 
Georgia or the Florida panhandle east and north of Ft Walton Beach.

I am hoping it is one crossing the Chatahoochee 
 
 



http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/48-states-project/25651290_9Dw44L/1/2126673865_pgBGcvc/Large

thanks,
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RE: OT The Edge Effect

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That's stunning!

cheers,
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From: Bruce Walker 
Sent: October 2, 2012 10/2/12
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Subject: OT The Edge Effect

Landscape photographer and scientist hikes a mirror and an easel into
the desert to create "painting" effects. Very cool ...

http://danielkukla.com/The-Edge-Effect

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RE: GESO: Visitor portraits

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What beautiful photos! The last one is especially enchanting; the bond between 
father and daughter really shows.

Cheers,
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From: Bob Sullivan 
Sent: October 2, 2012 10/2/12
To: PDML 
Subject: GESO: Visitor portraits

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1041381

We hosted some visitors last week.
You know the young lady from her pictures,
and may recognize her dad, Boris of the pdml.
All taken at ISO 1600 on the K-5 with the DA55/1.4,
wide open to f2.5.  I borrowed the window light from Doug Brewer.
She is a lovely 10 year old.
Regards,  Bob S.

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RE: PESO: Lotsa bricks

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You're in good company; Sir Winston Churchill had a thing for bricks too. 

Nice wall, cool shot.

Cheers,
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From: Tim Bray 
Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
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Subject: PESO: Lotsa bricks

I have a thing about bricks.  Wish I’d had a wider lens on; this is
the SIgma 30mm F1.4: http://goo.gl/56G9l

-T

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RE: OT: Interesting Bokeh Effects

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That made my eyes hurt.

Cheers,
frank

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From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
Sent: October 2, 2012 10/2/12
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Subject: OT: Interesting Bokeh Effects

http://www.1stwebdesigner.com/inspiration/30-stunning-bokeh-photography/
Dan Matyola
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RE: GESO Fall 2011

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Beautiful gallery!

Cheers,
frank

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From: Don Guthrie 
Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: GESO Fall 2011

Before I start shooting and posting this year's Fall stuff, I think I 
should post these from last year.

C&C always appreciated.



http://donspix.smugmug.com/Landscapes/Seasons/In-The-Fall-of-2011/25683157_43MSdJ

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RE: PESO - Three windows

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Lovely photo.

Is that the abandoned military facility south of Lakeshore Blvd. just west of 
Long Branch? If so I always wondered what that was...

Cheers,
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From: Bruce Walker 
Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
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Subject: PESO - Three windows

Inside the sole remaining building of Small Arms Limited, in Lakeview,
Mississauga during Doors Open 2012 on Saturday. There's a proposal to
turn it into an arts center with studio space and such. Most recently
it was used for shooting interior sets of a popular TV show: Lost
Girl, season 3.

During WW2 the grounds contained a 212,000 sq ft munitions factory
that built rifles, machine guns and ammunition. They employed 5,500
people, most of them women.

http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8045568498/lightbox/

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RE: How to take INCREDIBLE photos of your friends

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That's the way I take photos of people except I use a dslr instead of phone.

Cheers,
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From: Mark Roberts 
Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: How to take INCREDIBLE photos of your friends

The Oatmeal:
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/incredible_photos

 
-- 
Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia
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Re: OT: Consumer Reports

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CR is not for the enthusiast.

Of anything.

Back when I read the odd high end stereo mag like Stereophile or Absolute Sound 
(Are either of those still around? I don't know...) they decried CR stereo 
ratings: "This Naim amplifier seems sturdily built and rugged, and it measures 
quite good although at only 15 watts per side it's not very powerful. At 1/10th 
the price we recommend this Sansui receiver with 200 watts per channel and even 
better measurements than the Naim. Plus, the Sansui has a built-in tuner and 
pre-amp! A much better value! We did double-blind AB testing and 8 out of 10 
listeners couldn't tell the difference..."

cheers,
frank

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From: steve harley 
Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: OT: Consumer Reports

on 2012-10-01 10:19 Daniel J. Matyola wrote
> The November 2012 issue of Consumer Reports magazine features the
> "Best Products of the Year."  Among the listed items are 12 DSLRs,
> including two Pentax cameras!

that's interesting and notable, and will get Pentax some sales

i'm with the rest in being very wary of CR's ratings, though; they package 
their results so as to do the thinking for you, and make it hard to parse out 
useful info from all their assumptions about the products and the people who'll 
use them; the best product for their hypothetical average person is rarely the 
right product for me

and that is before the outright mistakes CR often seems to make, as well as the 
fact that they never dare to question consumerism itself; i often consider CR's 
data for major purchases, but i also often agree with their conclusions



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RE: Geso Fall colour drive weekend

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There's people with firearms and dogs and one guy with a dead Canada goose.

These things offend my wimpy vegan left-wing anti-gun city-boy sensibilities.

Otherwise, the leaves are quite pretty. So are the landscapes and churches.

And all silly humour aside it's a beautiful gallery.

Cheers,
frank

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From: David J Brooks 
Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
To: Pentax Discuss , Petch Dianne , 
Barbara Brooks , Harry Bolton , David 
Button , Darryl Button 
Subject: Geso Fall colour drive weekend

>From the drive around this past weekend, through Sunderland, Kinmount
and Madawask Ontario. Colours are sectional but closing in fast. This
weekend should be good. Nice reds and oranges this year.

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2012-madawaska1/album/index.html

Dave

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RE: GESO: The GFM photos I almost forgot

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...And this is why we hate you so...

;-)

Beautiful set, Mark!

cheers,
frank

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From: Mark Roberts 
Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
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Subject: GESO: The GFM photos I almost forgot

I just realized a few days ago that I didn't post any photos from this
year's Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend. I short browse
through my archives revealed why: I didn't have enough time to do a
lot of shooting this year. Anyway, here's 8 shots (some of which I've
posted already).
http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/gfm2012/index.html

 
-- 
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RE: PESO: Sit. Stay. Shop.

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Your dog makes the shot!

cheers,
frank

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From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: PESO: Sit. Stay. Shop.

In looking over images for my October PUG entry (Doors), I came across
this door from a gourmet pet food store in our town.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16489220

Comments are always welcome and appreciated.

Dan Matyola
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RE: Peso. Fall colours through a pair of sunglasses

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Cool!

cheers,
frank

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From: David J Brooks 
Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
To: Pentax Discuss , Petch Dianne , 
Harry Bolton , Barbara Brooks 
Subject: Peso. Fall colours through a pair of sunglasses

I have a pair of amber sunglasses that slip over my glasses. During
the fall colour season, the amber/yellow really makes the colours pop,
so on my weekend trip i stopped in Sunderland Ontario and shot this
church. I took several shots with and with out a circular polarize r
and this one through the glasses.

Not quite what i see in my eyeballs but kinda neat. I used the WB tool
and some luminous adjustment on oranges and purples.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/8044225769/in/photostream

K-5, D FA 16-45 f2

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RE: PESO - Almost Fall Colors at the Park - A pano

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Beautiful pano.

Cheers,
frank

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From: George Sinos 
Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: PESO - Almost Fall Colors at the Park - A pano

Saturday morning I noticed that the leaves on the trees in my back
yard were starting to turn.  I though I'd take a trip to a nearby park
to see if I could catch a little Fall color.

That's what I found. very little fall color.  Only a few trees had
started to turn.  The weather was nice and it was a pleasant way to
spend an hour or so.

This is the same trip where I got the shot of the Heron that was
identified by the PDML bird experts.

A few more photos from the day are here.


gs

George Sinos

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RE: OT: Consumer Reports

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Just a mention of two Pentax products is great!

CR doesn't cater to photographers and I'd even doubt that a photographer 
reviewed them. I am sure that they just plug in numbers and a winner is spit 
out. Can't image they have time for much (any?) real world handling or picture 
taking.

Cheers,
frank


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--- Original Message ---

From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: OT: Consumer Reports

The November 2012 issue of Consumer Reports magazine features the
"Best Products of the Year."  Among the listed items are 12 DSLRs,
including two Pentax cameras!  The K-5 is 9th, and the Kr is 11th,
although both have the same total score (67) and are separated by an
evil N***n product, the D5100.  The twelve include 4 each from C***N
and N***N, 2 from Pentax, and one each from Oly and Sony.


Dan Matyola
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Re: PESO - Worn Down - A Self Portrait

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Thanks, Steve. I'm a bit more cheerful now a week and a half later.

;-)

Yours is interesting! Sometimes the accidental ones work best.

:-)

cheers,
frank

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From: steve harley 
Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
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Subject: Re: PESO - Worn Down - A Self Portrait

on 2012-09-25 19:44 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote
> I was at Jet Fuel cafe in Toronto on Sunday morning. A friend of mine just 
> got a Samsung Galaxy S III and we were comparing it to my S II. I was fooling 
> around with mine a bit and "flipped" the camera around and took my own photo.
>
> Didn't think much of it until I looked at it again tonight. This was after 
> two sleepless, painful nights since my accident. I am shocked at how bad I 
> looked:
>
>   
> http://www.photoshop.com/users/knarftheriault/assets/789af21513e448b5927d53aebf499270
>

not bad, really; shows you as thoughtful and down to earth

self-portraits are hard; my favorite of myself was an accident taken on a cold 
light-rail ride home with my humble Canon G3; it has some similarities to your; 
i use it as an avatar

<https://www.dropbox.com/s/hn91bsiuddeb7pc/IMG_6135_2.jpg?m>


> Can't imagine what having a chronic ailment must do to a person.

i just sold a tripod to a man who's had two bouts with Hodgkin's lymphoma, the 
second requiring a stem cell transplant to recover from chemo, and in between 
had a quadruple bypass; his hair was just growing in and he looked a bit 
ragged, but his cheer was overriding, and i imagine yours is too, most days





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RE: PESO: Bud

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Looks really hot on my android but it works. Love that deep blue background!

Cheers,
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From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
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Subject: PESO: Bud

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16494531

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Re: PESO: Taboo !

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Cool image! They almost look like aliens.

Cheers,
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Subject: Re: PESO: Taboo !

It was a very serious matter in Hawaii as well.

All Polynesian languages are closely related to each other.  When Cook
first landed in Hawaii, he was able to communicate quite well with the
Hawaiians through the Polynesians he already had on his crew.

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On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:02 AM, David Mann  wrote:
> On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:09 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16489344
>>
>> Taboo is a Tahitian word.  This is the Hawai'ian equivilant.
>
> Interesting.  The Maori word is quite similar, Tapu, and it's a pretty 
> serious thing.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapu_(Polynesian_culture)
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
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RE: OT GESO - Labour Day

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Love the Darryl Lee Chocolate interior. Usually I prefer your people shots but 
the atmosphere in this one is incredible.

Wonderful conversions, too!

cheers,
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From: Derby Chang 
Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
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Subject: OT GESO - Labour Day


Beautiful run of weather lately, and being a long weekend made it even 
nicer. Continuing on my project of revisiting little-used lenses, I took 
the Avenon 21mm/2.8 out for a walk. Used to be one of my favourites, but 
since acquiring the formidable Zeiss 21mm/2.8, I've hardly touched the 
Avenon. It might be the weak coating, or it might be lashings of 
spherical aberration, this lens has a lot of "glow", especially when 
shooting contre-jour. But it really gives it character. Matched with the 
equally-fun Epson R-D1s, the combo is a good reminder to me that I don't 
need to be on the technological bleeding edge.

As it happens, I also hit the generous (not) limit of space allocated by 
my ISP for the website, so I razed it to the ground and started anew. 
Still work in progress, so please excuse the plaster dust. Not quite 
sure why the little prev/next arrows don't come up when hovering over 
the pics, so click on the left or right of the large images to navigate.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/10/labourday/index.html


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Re: OT: Interesting images

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Whether they are real or not, someone sure went to town with the saturation on 
many of them.

And I really doubt.those guys in the panda suits fooled that baby panda for a 
minute.

;-)

Cheers,
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From: "P. J. Alling" 
Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
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Subject: Re: OT: Interesting images

or taken with an extreme long lens at a considerable distance.

On 8/31/2012 3:41 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
> I like the poodle moth.  As for the moon, it might be an extreme crop.
>   Or a picture from an alternate dimension.
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
>> Well, I'd say they are all real images, but not all are real
>> photographs (I think most of them are, though).
>> The two that appear to me the most manipulated/artificial are the
>> Aurora Borealis one (particularly if you look at the water
>> "reflection" you'll see that reality is not being presented)
>> and also the Rio super moon (note the clouds over the mountain tops on
>> the left and how they seem to magically disappear when they get to the
>> moon). This just looks like a composite of two shots.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  
>> wrote:
>>> Are they all for real?
>>>
>>> http://www.buzzfeed.com/microsoftoutlook/20-amazing-photos-you-dont-want-to-miss-76ab
>>>
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>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Re: PESO - Espresso to Go

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Thanks, Dan! Glad you enjoyed it.

Cheers,
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Looks great, Frank.
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On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 8:40 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> Recently seen outside the Jet Fuel Cafe:
>
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/09/espresso-to-go.html
>
> The Jet Fuel is a favourite meeting place before and after weekend rides.
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank
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RE: PESO: Hibiscus

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Both beautiful shots but I love the bloom!

cheers,
frank

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From: Paul Stenquist 
Sent: September 30, 2012 9/30/12
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Subject: PESO: Hibiscus

The tropical hibiscus tree on my deck and a single bloom. I've had it for four 
years now. It spends the winters indoors of course, and I prune it hard every 
spring.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16493132&size=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16493133&size=lg
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Re: PESO - Hot Dogs for Jesus

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My point was not that Jesus would have eaten hot dogs. Being triple O 
(Omniscient, Omnipotent and Omnibenevolent) he would have known that hot dogs 
aren't good for a human body (and he was god and human all in one - like 
Certs). Even veggie dogs with soy in them (North American soy is one of the 
more genetically modified crops) are a poor choice. 

He also would have been compassionate and not eaten meat. 

And being omniscient he had the power to see into the future and would have 
wanted to set an example of good healthy eating for future generations of 
Christians.

No, the title was saying that they were doing good works for god with wieners 
on a bun...

It was intended as humour.

;-)

Btw, thank for the comment, and thanks to all others who looked and commented.

cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: Mark Roberts 
Sent: September 30, 2012 9/30/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: PESO - Hot Dogs for Jesus

Hot dogs for Jesus? I don't think he'll accept, being Jewish and all
;-)

(Mark the vegetarian... who knows perfectly well that there are some
hot dogs made without pork.)
 
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Re: PESO: A Night at the Carnival

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Yes, that's better.

Terrific shot!

cheers,
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From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
Sent: September 30, 2012 9/30/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" , "P. J. Alling" 

Subject: Re: PESO: A Night at the Carnival

Try this:   http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16489343
Dan Matyola
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On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 10:29 AM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> The link is kind of, oh I don't know how would you say it mangled?  No
> that's not it, but something like that...
>
>
> On 9/29/2012 10:17 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>> oto.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16489343
>>
>> Comments are always appreciated.
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>
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RE: PESO: Self portrait with buttons

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That's kinda cool.

Cheers,
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From: Tim Bray 
Sent: September 29, 2012 9/29/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: PESO: Self portrait with buttons

http://goo.gl/OK2EB

Like buttons?  I have lots more!
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/09/29/Button-Button

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RE: iPhone 5--sheesh!

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I have one decent system but my point is that very few people do. Most systems 
are tied in with home theatre. Most people listen to music through horrible 
self-powered computer speakers or iPods. 

But good quality stereo hi fidelity? Not much of that around nowadays.

Cheers,
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From: "J.C. O'Connell" 
Sent: September 29, 2012 9/29/12
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not in my household, I have two high quality stereo systems...

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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
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Good quality home audio is all but a thing of the past.

cheers,
frank

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From: Bob W 
Sent: September 29, 2012 9/29/12
To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
Subject: RE: iPhone 5--sheesh!

That seems to be generally true of audio things these days - I think they
expect people to be permanently wearing headphones, or in the case of TVs to
be plugged into some sort of home cinema set up with
superoctomegatronic-3D-HDQ- surround-sound Dolby bollocks. Or maybe it's
just that I'm a deaf git.

B

> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> knarftheria...@gmail.com
> 
> I have very little experience with mobile phones generally and even
> less with smartphones. In fact my Samsung Galaxy S II with Android is
> my first and only. So I can't compare it with others.
> 
> What I can say, however, is that as a phone it is horrible. I can
> barely hear the person at the other end if there is even the tiniest
> bit of background noise. The sound quality generally is horrible.
> 
> Cheers,
> frank
> 
> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." --
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> 
> --- Original Message ---
> 
> From: John Sessoms 
> Sent: September 29, 2012 9/29/12
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: iPhone 5--sheesh!
> 
> Still waiting for an answer which one is better for making telephone
> calls.
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RE: PESO - Unknown Bird

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Blue heron. Nice capture!

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From: George Sinos 
Sent: September 29, 2012 9/29/12
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Subject: PESO - Unknown Bird

Anyone know what kind of bird this is?

It showed up at the duck pond in a local city park recently.  It's
been hanging out with the ducks and geese.  I know there is a big
flock of Sandhill Cranes in the Safari Park about 25 or 30 miles south
of town, maybe it's one of those.



Just curious. gs

George Sinos

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RE: GESO - William Street Laneway Festival

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Lovely!

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From: Derby Chang 
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Subject: GESO - William Street Laneway Festival


Some on-topic pics for a change. I decided to dust off a few of my 
little-used lenses to reacquaint myself with them. Someone was asking 
about the Sigma 30mm/1.4. A pleasant lens to use, but in no way stellar, 
and not a substitute for the FA31. Little too quirky when shooting wide 
open. Happy to hold onto it, though.

Little street festival yesterday for the fashionistas, wherein I met a 
former Australian Next Top Model contestant.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_09/12_09_laneway/index.htm

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RE: iPhone 5--sheesh!

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Good quality home audio is all but a thing of the past.

cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: Bob W 
Sent: September 29, 2012 9/29/12
To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
Subject: RE: iPhone 5--sheesh!

That seems to be generally true of audio things these days - I think they
expect people to be permanently wearing headphones, or in the case of TVs to
be plugged into some sort of home cinema set up with
superoctomegatronic-3D-HDQ- surround-sound Dolby bollocks. Or maybe it's
just that I'm a deaf git.

B

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> knarftheria...@gmail.com
> 
> I have very little experience with mobile phones generally and even
> less with smartphones. In fact my Samsung Galaxy S II with Android is
> my first and only. So I can't compare it with others.
> 
> What I can say, however, is that as a phone it is horrible. I can
> barely hear the person at the other end if there is even the tiniest
> bit of background noise. The sound quality generally is horrible.
> 
> Cheers,
> frank
> 
> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." --
> Christopher Hitchens
> 
> --- Original Message ---
> 
> From: John Sessoms 
> Sent: September 29, 2012 9/29/12
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: iPhone 5--sheesh!
> 
> Still waiting for an answer which one is better for making telephone
> calls.
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Re: PESO - In Motion

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Thanks, Don, and thanks to everyone else who looked and commented!

cheers,
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--- Original Message ---

From: Don Guthrie 
Sent: September 29, 2012 9/29/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO - In Motion

Yes Frank like the light and the rich black in the car. But I mostly 
like the closeness of the subject. I feel I am sitting on the next bike.



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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 02:42:08 +0000 (UTC)
> From:"knarftheria...@gmail.com"  
> To:PDML@pdml.net
> Subject: PESO - In Motion
> Message-ID:
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> <757615770.48952.1348886539661.javamail.se...@ap0.p2.fra.samsungsocialhub.net>
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>
> Sorry to post bike pix on successive days but this was (by far) the best 
> picture I took today. I really like what the light reflecting off buildings 
> was doing:
>
>   http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/in-motion.html?m=1
>
> Hope you enjoy it as much as I do. Comments welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
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RE: PESO grape leaves and spider web

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Wonderful!

cheers,
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From: Larry Colen 
Sent: September 28, 2012 9/28/12
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Subject: PESO grape leaves and spider web

This caught my eye out in the garden yesterday:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8034225495/in/set-72157631646234856

C&C welcome

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Re: iPhone 5--sheesh!

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I have very little experience with mobile phones generally and even less with 
smartphones. In fact my Samsung Galaxy S II with Android is my first and only. 
So I can't compare it with others. 

What I can say, however, is that as a phone it is horrible. I can barely hear 
the person at the other end if there is even the tiniest bit of background 
noise. The sound quality generally is horrible.

Cheers,
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From: John Sessoms 
Sent: September 29, 2012 9/29/12
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Subject: Re: iPhone 5--sheesh!

Still waiting for an answer which one is better for making telephone calls.

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Re: PESO -- Vally Forge was never like this.

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I think she's portraying Martha Washington who, few people realize, was a bit 
of a vamp.

;-)

Fun, colourful photo, Peter.

Cheers,
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--- Original Message ---

From: Bruce Walker 
Sent: September 28, 2012 9/28/12
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Subject: Re: PESO -- Vally Forge was never like this.

Whoa! I welcome them too.


On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 5:45 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> A while ago I promised or maybe threatened to post a few photos from the Von
> Stubeun day parade, if they didn't all hoover.
>
> Well a few didn't completely.  So here's the first.
>
> I just want to say that I for one welcome our new miniskirted Green and Gold
> tuniced overlords...
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20vallyforgewasneverlikethis.html
>
> Equipment:  Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0
>
> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
>
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RE: PAW143 - Tram

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It's like two pictures separated by the rubber strip on the door.

Reality (woman getting on, left side of frame) and some alternate perception of 
reality (window with reflections and man on the "other side").

Cool!

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From: DagT 
Sent: September 28, 2012 9/28/12
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Subject: PAW143 - Tram

A bit early this week because of an autumn holiday,
http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
A little unconventional equipment for street photography, but... : Razzle 4x5, 
127mm, 1/125s, f/4,7, ISO400.

A new picture here as well:
http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/Razzle/Razzle.html

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RE: PESO: Painted Lady

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That's gorgeous, Dan!

cheers,
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From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
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Subject: PESO: Painted Lady

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16489341

Comments are always appreciated.

Dan Matyola
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Re: PDML Digest, Vol 77, Issue 265

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Yes, both post injury. Now that I am a walking/metropassing courier I have my 
camera with me. There are different views of downtown on a workday than on 
weekends. It's fun!

Thanks for the kind words on both photos.

Cheers,
frank 

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--- Original Message ---

From: Don Guthrie 
Sent: September 28, 2012 9/28/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PDML Digest, Vol 77, Issue 265

Nice technique, timing and composition in a story telling photo. I think 
this one and "Position of Power"  are great. And these are post-injury?



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> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 22:31:14 -0400
> From: frank theriault
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> Subject: PESO - The Jaywalker
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> Rule #1:  Never look directly at them.  If you do, they expect you to
> swerve out of their way.  If they think you don't see them, they may
> actually give you the right of way:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/the-jaywalker.html
>
> ;-)
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
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PESO - In Motion

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Sorry to post bike pix on successive days but this was (by far) the best 
picture I took today. I really like what the light reflecting off buildings was 
doing:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/in-motion.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy it as much as I do. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
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RE: GESO - Santos City of Lights display

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Very cool!

cheers,
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--- Original Message ---

From: Tanya Love 
Sent: September 28, 2012 9/28/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: GESO - Santos City of Lights display

So, amdist an ocean of tripods, I sat, with my 4 year old wriggling on my
lap, and my K5 and new DA12-25mm and DA*55mm within reach.

This is what I captured:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151172339403840.476388.256694448
839&type=1

A bit noisy and soft, but not bad I reckon for such slow exposures
handheld...

LOVE my new lenses!


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RE: Brooks

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Indeed!

Many happy returns, Dave.

Cheers,
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From: Larry Colen 
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Subject: Brooks

Happee Burthday Dave!

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RE: PESO -- Lith

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This is a strangely compelling photo.

Cheers,
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From: "P. J. Alling" 
Sent: September 28, 2012 9/28/12
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Subject: PESO -- Lith

Commentary:  These perfectly squared off benches fascinate me in the way 
they stand off from the surrounding environment, almost as if they,. 
like the monolith in 2001, were some perfect alien artifact, created by 
an advanced civilization, to educate the monkeys.

The focus on this wasn't exactly correct.  I was trying to hit the 
middle of the bench but somehow hit the far edge.  So in the full size 
image the closest side is a bit soft.  It doesn't show through so much 
when sized for the web but it's still a bit noticeable.

  For what amounts to about the cheapest long lens solution available, 
this little mirror is surprisingly sharp when you do everything right, 
though it does need a bit of a contrast boost.  I only had to clone out 
one circular highlight to keep it's true nature from being obvious.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/peso%20--%20lith.html

Equipment:  Pentax K20D w/Kalimar MC 500mm Mirror f8.0

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.


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Re: PESO - The Jaywalker

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Thanks, Bruce!

cheers,
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From: Bruce Walker 
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Subject: Re: PESO - The Jaywalker

I like this bit of urban drama being played out. I appreciate how
panning the rider makes him sharp while also blurring the jay-walker
giving him some clear motion. Very neatly done!


On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:31 PM, frank theriault
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> Rule #1:  Never look directly at them.  If you do, they expect you to
> swerve out of their way.  If they think you don't see them, they may
> actually give you the right of way:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/the-jaywalker.html
>
> ;-)
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
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RE: Make that October PUG - The Door is about to close

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Doors.

Check.

Cheers,
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--- Original Message ---

From: Brian Walters 
Sent: September 27, 2012 9/27/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Make that October PUG - The Door is about to close

G'day all

I'm running a bit late with my nagging - where did bloody September go??

So far we have 9 themed submissions.


The details:

Theme: Doors.

Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

The main requirements are:

* Max. pixel dimensions: 800 pixels on the longest side.
* Max file size: 300k
* Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body  
or lens used is Pentax.
* If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to  
ensure that the image is displayed correctly on line.


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RE: PESO -- Bridges

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Gorgeous scene, very well captured. Wonderful composition and I like that the 
leaves are just starting to turn. That mix of colours is lovely.

Cheers,
frank

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From: "P. J. Alling" 
Sent: September 27, 2012 9/27/12
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Subject: PESO -- Bridges

I shot this a few years ago in mid summer with the *ist Ds.  I happened 
to be traveling in the area today with my K20D and had time to stop and 
re-shoot in early fall.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20bridges.html

Equipment K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0

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Re: PESO - From a Position of Power

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Ann, Dan, Steve, thanks for your comments.

FWIW the older gentleman is on the steps of the National Club, one of a 
half-dozen or so private clubs left in Toronto. This one is one of the oldest 
and most prestigious; a real "old boys' club" until they made them take old 
girls a couple of decades ago.

I have no idea what they were talking about but I liked the way the older of 
the two seemed to be keeping the upper hand by standing a step up on the 
younger fellow. 

Anyway, glad you liked!

cheers,
frank 

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--- Original Message ---

From: Ann Sanfedele 
Sent: September 26, 2012 9/26/12
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Subject: Re: PESO - From a Position of Power

yeah...!

ann

On 9/26/2012 22:15, frank theriault wrote:
> Having a camera downtown during the week is fun:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/from-position-of-power.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>

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RE: Peso x 4 Jays in flight

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First and last are my favourites. 

Are you using fill flash on these? The jays look nice and bright! (but not too 
much so - just right I'd say).

cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: David J Brooks 
Sent: September 27, 2012 9/27/12
To: Pentax Discuss , Petch Dianne , 
Barbara Brooks , Harry Bolton , David 
Button , Darryl Button 
Subject: Peso x 4 Jays in flight

Not the greatest, even at 1000 plus shutter, hard to pre track these guys:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16485836
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16485837
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16485838
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16485839

Dave

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RE: PESO: Frog

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Very cool! What surface is it walking on? Almost looks like a mattress or 
something? Whatever it is I think it really adds to the photo - not so strong 
as to distract but visible enough to be a subtle yet interesting element.

Very good photo but two little nits: Might crop a bit off the top and an even 
tinier bit off the left to get the frog a bit more off-centre and make the 
photo a bit more dynamic.

And I find the photo a bit dark, but since I am looking at it on my android you 
may take this criticism as worth a grain of salt.

All in all, though, a wonderful photo!

cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
Sent: September 27, 2012 9/27/12
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Subject: PESO: Frog

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16474954

Comments are invited.

Dan Matyola
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Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

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Where did I make him out to be a bad guy? I spoke to him one of the times I was 
at GFM and he is a very personable, pleasant fellow. 

He's a very good photographer who has come up with or adapted an idea and uses 
it along with his other tools to take very unique and beautiful photos.

I have a problem with those who think he cheats or breaks or bends the rules; 
he does no such thing. 

My personal preference is to take nature photos completely in their natural 
surroundings, as found. He brings a mini-studio and enhances his subjects 
before shooting them.

Nothing wrong or unethical about that.

I am still puzzled what I said that makes you think I think he's a "bad guy"?

cheers,
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From: Bob Sullivan 
Sent: September 26, 2012 9/26/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

Frank,
I believe that I talked to Charles at GFM this year.
He's not really the bad guy you make him out to be.
He did post an 'over the top' drops photo that won a prize,
but freely shared all his tricks the next year.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 6:22 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> Well, I did actually ask the young lady if I could take a photo of her book, 
> coffee and muffin. That's more than I usually do...
>
> My reference with the backdrop and glycerin was (as some no doubt recognized) 
> a reference to a certain Mr. Brazwell (sp?), a perennial winner in the Nature 
> Photography Contest ay GFM. Brought along a little collapsing frame and 
> velvet backdrops of various colours, sprayed glycerine on flowers and leaves 
> for the "just after a rainfall" look and away he went; won every year. Shot 
> with Pentax for a while iirc. Was on this list for a while (may still lurk 
> for all I know).
>
> Lots of jealous people thought it was against the rules but it clearly wasn't.
>
> And it looked very good. He was very good at it - and I guess he still is. 
> Probably still goes to GFM (sadly I don't). Probably still wins. Mark? Doug? 
> Anyone else at GFM? Charles still around?
>
> So your scrim story reminded me of him.
>
> Easy to do in a forest, not so much in an urban setting.
>
> ;-)
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
> Christopher Hitchens
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: Bruce Walker 
> Sent: September 26, 2012 9/26/12
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?
>
> My tongue was very firmly in my cheek when I suggested a lighting mod,
> Frank. But you knew that didn't you? :-)
>
> I had a crazy mental image of a woman settling in with her coffee and
> muffin when she's suddenly surrounded by technicians. Two guys are
> erecting a portable 4x8 foot scrim, one is spraying her food with
> glycerine. A makeup artist and hairstylist pounce and transform her.
> Finally Frank leans in, shoots a few frames, smiles at the woman and
> exits along with the assistants. Woman absently bites her muffin,
> grimaces and spits it out. Fade.
>
> Hey if Bruce Gilden can spring up and flash people in NY, why not?
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:04 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
>  wrote:
>> Not going to comment on the scrim. I takes my photos as I find 'em. 
>> Collapsible  scrims? What's next:  velvet backdrops and spray bottles of 
>> glycerin?
>>
>> Sheesh!
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> Okay, on the gustatory issue: Please be aware that those are not my coffee 
>> or muffin. They belong to the hands of the lovely young lady at the next 
>> table.
>>
>> For me, generally speaking, espresso is a stand-alone beverage. No need for 
>> cake, cookies, pastry or sweets.
>> Like you I will have baked goods or pastry with a regular coffee. Not the 
>> chocolate chip muffin in the photo, however; it's not vegan.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Thanks for the comment and thanks to everyone else who looked and commented.
>>
>> cheers,
>> frank
>>
>> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
>> Christopher Hitchens
>>
>> --- Original Message ---
>>
>> From: Bruce Walker 
>> Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Subject: Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?
>>
>> Ditto what Peter says. I do like the shot though.
>>
>> Next time you go there, Frank, take a collapsible scrim with you to
>> cont

RE: GESO San Francisco Lindy Exchange:

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Didn't get all the way through them but there are some amazing photos in there. 
Obviously being a dancer yourself you know the timing and can anticipate the 
perfect moment to snap.

Wonderful stuff.

Perhaps you should have used a flash though...  

cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: Larry Colen 
Sent: September 26, 2012 9/26/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: GESO  San Francisco Lindy Exchange:

Here is my first cut at my 46 best photos from the Lindy Exchange about a week 
ago.  I've posted a few of these already:

http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157631631427532/

I have a few examples that show why the K-5 is such an amazing camera:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8027991101/in/set-72157631631427532
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8027917037/in/set-72157631631427532

At first blush, these two shots seem a bit rough.  Consider that they were shot 
at 1/100 f/3.2 ISO 800

And  for example, this shot of the dancers, was shot at 1/30 f/1.8 ISO12,800: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8027915854  

The practical dynamic range of this camera continues to gobsmack me.  There 
wasn't enough light to easily photograph the dancers, and I'm pulling 
reasonable images of the dancers, while exposing for musicians under stage 
lights.


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RE: Peso Back yard jays

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The second one is terrific.

The first one might be if the tip of the head weren't cut off.

Cheers, 
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From: David J Brooks 
Sent: September 26, 2012 9/26/12
To: Pentax Discuss , Petch Dianne , 
Barbara Brooks , Harry Bolton , David 
Button , Darryl Button 
Subject: Peso Back yard jays

Hey all

Its been a while since the jays have been in abundance in the back
yard. We have gone from two to about six or seven, so i got the K-5
out Tuesday.


Up, up and a way:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16485834

You started with out me.??
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16485835

K-5, D FA 50-200 AF360 -0.5 fill

Dave

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Re: PESO - Worn Down - A Self Portrait

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Don't worry, I always listen to my doctors.

;-)

And I always let Judy wait on me when she insists.

;-)

Thanks to all for the comments. As I said earlier I was just surprised at how 
miserable I looked. I know I was pretty cranky on Sunday but I had no idea how 
everything was being shown on my face.

Now I need to take a happy self portrait to balance it out.

;-)

cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: Ann Sanfedele 
Sent: September 26, 2012 9/26/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: PESO - Worn Down - A Self Portrait





On 9/26/2012 18:27, David J Brooks wrote:
> Thats quite good Frank. Orther than the magenta cast.
Don't see Magenta cast on my nice new monitor...
just blown-out finger..

Kinda reminds me
> of Saturday morning at GFM:-)
>
> Dave
Oh, yeah... I remember that look too!
But he wasn't in quite such pain back then...

Frank, just be good and do what doc says and let
Judy wait on you

ann



>
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:44 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
>  wrote:
>> I was at Jet Fuel cafe in Toronto on Sunday morning. A friend of mine just 
>> got a Samsung Galaxy S III and we were comparing it to my S II. I was 
>> fooling around with mine a bit and "flipped" the camera around and took my 
>> own photo.
>>
>> Didn't think much of it until I looked at it again tonight. This was after 
>> two sleepless, painful nights since my accident. I am shocked at how bad I 
>> looked:
>>
>>   
>> http://www.photoshop.com/users/knarftheriault/assets/789af21513e448b5927d53aebf499270
>>
>>   *http://tinyurl.com/8moy833*
>>
>> Can't imagine what having a chronic ailment must do to a person.
>>
>> I have been told that sometimes the subjects of my street photos are not 
>> portrayed in a good light. I guess part of me wants to show that I can do 
>> the same for myself when I am down in the dumps.
>>
>> Don't worry though. Feeling much better now. A proper diagnosis and knowing 
>> what I am dealing with (along with a sling for my arm!) have alleviated the 
>> pain considerably.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> cheers,
>> frank
>>
>>
>>
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RE: PESO Ford

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Like the fourth one best. Those orange highlights are weird but oddly work well 
with the black or grey matt.

Well shot.

Cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: Larry Colen 
Sent: September 26, 2012 9/26/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: PESO Ford

Between rescuing two damsels in distress today, I took a few shots of this 
relic parked in front of the thrift store in downtown Felton:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8025866914/

set of 4: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157631626251196/
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RE: Elizabeth Street Gallery

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Love them all (as I always do) but especially the first one and the photo of 
the children looking at the bunnies hanging by their ears. They'll have 
nightmares about that for years, followed by decades of therapy but it's a 
great shot!

cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: Derby Chang 
Sent: September 26, 2012 9/26/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Elizabeth Street Gallery


I got a quick heads-up on this last week before the Art and About 
opening. Only had a bit of time to grab a snap 
(http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_09/12_09_sydneylife/01.htm) 
but looking at it in better light it is outstanding. Entertaining vid up 
on the 'tube this week. Andrew Quilty is the man. Amazing family the 
Quiltys (I use to work with on of his cousins)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwGm9ZGPcHc

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RE: GESO Tasha and Friends -- the rest of the story

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The wrap party must have been amazing.

;-)

Cheers,
frank

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From: Bruce Walker 
Sent: September 26, 2012 9/26/12
To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List 
Subject: GESO Tasha and Friends -- the rest of the story

If you enjoyed my "Tasha and Friend" PESO Saturday, then here's just
the gallery for you ...

http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/sets/72157631606597351/

I was freely roaming the production set (a producer's basement) of
this indie horror/comedy/puppet movie scheduled for 2013 release.

This flick is coming from the same team that created "The Post-Lifers"
(2011), a zombie mockumentary that's touring all the indie film
festivals this year. If you can, I urge you to see it. It's hilarious
and really, really well done. Here's their IMDB & Facebook pages:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2133348/
https://www.facebook.com/thepostlifers
http://postlifeproductions.ca/


All gallery shots: K20D, mostly DA*55/1.4, a few DA*16-50/2.8. Post in
Lightroom 4.1.

Comments welcome.
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Re: OT: 2013 will be the year of the Great Comets

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You just wet your pants and it's visible in daylight. 

That's more information than I really need, thank you very much.

;-)

So the Russians discovered this comet, eh? Sounds just like back in the cold 
war. No matter what we in the West ~really invented~ they claimed to have 
invented it first. From the television to the light bulb to being first to 
orbit the earth. Wait, they really were in space first.

Oh well. This comet really does sound amazing. Hope we'll be able to see it in 
New Toronto...

;-)

cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: Toine 
Sent: September 26, 2012 9/26/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: OT: 2013 will be the year of the Great Comets

Wow, I think I just wet my pants. Visible in daylight!

Toine

On 26 September 2012 16:10, Darren Addy  wrote:
> If you have ever wanted to get into astrophotography, you have reason
> to "gear up" now. I don't know if it is making national news yet, but
> a comet was just days ago discovered by a couple of Russian
> astronomers that appears to have all of the ingredients to be one of
> the greatest comets in our lifetimes, and maybe one of the greatest in
> human civilization's history.
> http://www.astronomynow.com/news/n1209/25comet/
>
> Normally it takes a while after discovery to calculate an accurate
> orbit, but this comet was found on pre-discovery sky surveys (where it
> was previously overlooked as a comet) and so they have 9 months of
> data (over 50 orbital datapoints). What makes it incredible is the
> nearness with which it is going to skim past the sun (.012 AU) and
> then the nearness with which is flies past the earth (.4 AU). This
> comet has the chance of being visible in a broad daylight sky,
> brighter than the moon. This will be an incredible object from Nov. to
> Jan. in 2013/2014. Currently, this comet is known by the following
> designation: C/2012 S1 (ISON)
>
> If you want to hang out with the comet nerds, including at least one
> of the discoverers of this comet:
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/comets-ml/
>
> Before this, we were looking forward to another great comet in the
> Spring of 2013 (known by the designation C/2011 L4 PANSTARRS ) This
> comet alone would be enough to make most comet lovers wet their pants,
> as it is expected to flirt with negative visual magnitudes in March
> 2013: http://www.aerith.net/comet/catalog/2011L4/2011L4.html but it
> has now been joined by a very big brother that looks to wildly
> overshadow it.
>
> 2013 is going to be a once-in-a-lifetime year for comets.
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RE: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

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That was me on the train smoking the pipe. You didn't know it was me because 
you never met me...

Cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: Bob W 
Sent: September 26, 2012 9/26/12
To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
Subject: RE: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Steven Desjardins
> 
> Don't try it.  I took up the pipe when I quit cigarettes and got hooked
> on it for 10 years.  Cigarettes taste pretty flat after a pipe.
> 

by a strange coincidence I dreamt last night that I was on a train and some
guy in one of the seats near me lit a pipe and somehow managed to smoke it
surreptitiously. 

Then a very large and unpleasant Orangeman
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Order) with tattoos of King Billy on
his arm took my seat and wouldn't get out when I objected.

B

> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 8:41 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
>  wrote:
> > Never tried a pipe. Nor a ~good~ cigar. Smoked cheap cigars and I
> always found them nasty.
> >
> > Even though I quit tobacco (cigarettes) long ago K have always been
> curious about pipes and (good) cigars. Not curious enough to try either
> though...
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> > cheers,
> > frank
> >
> > "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof."
> > -- Christopher Hitchens
> >
> > --- Original Message ---
> >
> > From: Steven Desjardins 
> > Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12
> > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> > Subject: Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?
> >
> > Chocolate, coffee, and once upon a time pipe tobacco.
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:06 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
> >  wrote:
> >> Thanks, Peter. That's the kind of constructive criticism that I find
> particularly helpful!
> >>
> >> And it was, I believe, a chocolate chip muffin.
> >>
> >> :-)
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >> frank
> >>
> >> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof."
> >> -- Christopher Hitchens
> >>
> >> --- Original Message ---
> >>
> >> From: "P. J. Alling" 
> >> Sent: September 24, 2012 9/24/12
> >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> >> Subject: Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?
> >>
> >> I assume that's chocolate, which is undeniably one of life's great
> >> pleasures.  However while the glare off the table can be forgiven,
> >> the blacks are too blocked to convey an inviting texture to the
> >> pastry and the coffee cup needs a bit more separation from it's
> >> shadow/reflection in the saucer . Aside from that the composition is
> quite pleasing.
> >>
> >> On 9/24/2012 9:51 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> I suppose there could be a huge debate on what life's greatest
> pleasures really are but a good book, a muffin and an espresso would be
> a consideration for me:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/lifes-greatest-
> pleasures.h
> >>> tml?m=1
> >>>
> >>> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> frank
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without
> proof."
> >>> -- Christopher Hitchens
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to
> avoid a lengthly search.
> >>
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Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

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Well, I did actually ask the young lady if I could take a photo of her book, 
coffee and muffin. That's more than I usually do...

My reference with the backdrop and glycerin was (as some no doubt recognized) a 
reference to a certain Mr. Brazwell (sp?), a perennial winner in the Nature 
Photography Contest ay GFM. Brought along a little collapsing frame and velvet 
backdrops of various colours, sprayed glycerine on flowers and leaves for the 
"just after a rainfall" look and away he went; won every year. Shot with Pentax 
for a while iirc. Was on this list for a while (may still lurk for all I know).

Lots of jealous people thought it was against the rules but it clearly wasn't. 

And it looked very good. He was very good at it - and I guess he still is. 
Probably still goes to GFM (sadly I don't). Probably still wins. Mark? Doug? 
Anyone else at GFM? Charles still around?

So your scrim story reminded me of him.

Easy to do in a forest, not so much in an urban setting.

;-)

cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: Bruce Walker 
Sent: September 26, 2012 9/26/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

My tongue was very firmly in my cheek when I suggested a lighting mod,
Frank. But you knew that didn't you? :-)

I had a crazy mental image of a woman settling in with her coffee and
muffin when she's suddenly surrounded by technicians. Two guys are
erecting a portable 4x8 foot scrim, one is spraying her food with
glycerine. A makeup artist and hairstylist pounce and transform her.
Finally Frank leans in, shoots a few frames, smiles at the woman and
exits along with the assistants. Woman absently bites her muffin,
grimaces and spits it out. Fade.

Hey if Bruce Gilden can spring up and flash people in NY, why not?


On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:04 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> Not going to comment on the scrim. I takes my photos as I find 'em. 
> Collapsible  scrims? What's next:  velvet backdrops and spray bottles of 
> glycerin?
>
> Sheesh!
>
> ;-)
>
> Okay, on the gustatory issue: Please be aware that those are not my coffee or 
> muffin. They belong to the hands of the lovely young lady at the next table.
>
> For me, generally speaking, espresso is a stand-alone beverage. No need for 
> cake, cookies, pastry or sweets.
> Like you I will have baked goods or pastry with a regular coffee. Not the 
> chocolate chip muffin in the photo, however; it's not vegan.
>
> :-)
>
> Thanks for the comment and thanks to everyone else who looked and commented.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
> Christopher Hitchens
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: Bruce Walker 
> Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?
>
> Ditto what Peter says. I do like the shot though.
>
> Next time you go there, Frank, take a collapsible scrim with you to
> control the glare and let you raise the exposure so we can see the
> muffin properly. I'll come with you if you need an assistant. Mmm,
> chocolate.
>
> On a more technical note: don't you find that pairing a muffin with an
> espresso means that you run out of liquid long before you finish the
> muffin? It's usually three or four sips or one quick swallow and that
> espresso is done.
>
> I'd rather have a cup of coffee with that chocolate muffin. With an
> espresso, it should be a biscotti, I think.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10:59 PM, P. J. Alling
>  wrote:
>> I assume that's chocolate, which is undeniably one of life's great
>> pleasures.  However while the glare off the table can be forgiven, the
>> blacks are too blocked to convey an inviting texture to the pastry and the
>> coffee cup needs a bit more separation from it's shadow/reflection in the
>> saucer . Aside from that the composition is quite pleasing.
>>
>>
>> On 9/24/2012 9:51 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> I suppose there could be a huge debate on what life's greatest pleasures
>>> really are but a good book, a muffin and an espresso would be a
>>> consideration for me:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/lifes-greatest-pleasures.html?m=1
>>>
>>> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> frank
>>>
>>>
>>> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." --
>>> Christopher Hitchens
>>
&

Re: PESOs - A Chrysler at Packard

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Agreed! The last one is a real winner!

cheers,
frank

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From: Steven Desjardins 
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Subject: Re: PESOs - A Chrysler at Packard

Nice set, the last one being the money shot.  What a nice car.

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Shot a car today at what is left of the Packard Proving
> grounds in Shelby, Michigan:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16483795
>
> The car was a 1959 Chrysler Imperial two-seat roadster -- a car that never 
> exacted, save in one man's fantasy. The proving ground venue just happened to 
> be handy and aesthetically a nice match for the car. Here it is in front of 
> the old Packard garage:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16483792&size=lg
>
> And smoking the hides on the remains of the Packard test track, which was 
> once a 2 1/2- mile oval (if memory serves me). All that remains is a few 
> hundred feet of track and guardrail:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16483794&size=lg
>
>
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Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

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BTW a Spotmatic tribute gallery in PUG would be a great idea!

cheers,
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From: Brian Walters 
Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

Quoting knarftheria...@gmail.com:

> I've got an MX that still works just fine (except the meter is  
> pooched). I've got an SP500 (stripped down budget Spotmatic) that  
> still functions perfectly. Two Spotmatics with sluggish shutters  
> that likely only need a CLA (remember CLAs?). I have a Leica CL that  
> according to the serial number was likely made in 1973 that works  
> like a charm.
>
> I have a Yashicamat LM (the meter never worked even when I bought it  
> some twelve years ago). I am pretty certain it was built around  
> 1957, making it only a year younger than me. Works great!
>
> Can't imagine any current digital cameras sticking around that long.


More's the pity!

Having lived with the K-5 for a few months now, I've reached the  
conclusion that I'm never going to want anything better - I've never  
thought that about any of my previous DSLRs. 16M is as much resolution  
as I want and ISO 6400+ is more than enough.  Full frame?  Bah!

The only reason I'm likely to upgrade is if (when?) the K-5 breaks and  
is not economically repairable.  Or if I win the lottery, but that's  
unlikely as I never buy tickets.

PS.  I've still got a few film cameras and most still work.  Actually  
Steve's given me the germ of an idea - perhaps we should have a  
special PUG in 2014 to celebrate the Spotmatic's 50th Anniversary  
(assuming you can still buy film in 2014...)


Cheers

Brian

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> From: Mark Roberts 
> Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...
>
> Steven Desjardins wrote:
>
>> OTOH, you can always upgrade the latest sensor.
>
> Not only *can* you upgrade the sensor, sometimes you're *forced* to.
> Whether you want to or not. Even if the "upgrade" is really *worse*
> than it's predecessor (in your opinion, which is really all that
> matters). Sometimes your favorite "sensor" is just discontinued and
> you can't buy it any more even though you really want to so you have
> to switch to a different sensor you don't like as much.
>
>> A body would also be good for 10 years.
>
> At least. I've got an MX that must be 30 years old and still works
> fine. Well, I assume it works fine - I haven't tried in a few years.
>
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Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

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Well I have to say I am very happy with my K10D!

If I had the money I would upgrade to the K5 only for the more compact size and 
(most importantly) for the stratospheric ISO. As I do lots of night shooting it 
would be a boon to me.

Cheers,
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--- Original Message ---

From: Brian Walters 
Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

Quoting knarftheria...@gmail.com:

> I've got an MX that still works just fine (except the meter is  
> pooched). I've got an SP500 (stripped down budget Spotmatic) that  
> still functions perfectly. Two Spotmatics with sluggish shutters  
> that likely only need a CLA (remember CLAs?). I have a Leica CL that  
> according to the serial number was likely made in 1973 that works  
> like a charm.
>
> I have a Yashicamat LM (the meter never worked even when I bought it  
> some twelve years ago). I am pretty certain it was built around  
> 1957, making it only a year younger than me. Works great!
>
> Can't imagine any current digital cameras sticking around that long.


More's the pity!

Having lived with the K-5 for a few months now, I've reached the  
conclusion that I'm never going to want anything better - I've never  
thought that about any of my previous DSLRs. 16M is as much resolution  
as I want and ISO 6400+ is more than enough.  Full frame?  Bah!

The only reason I'm likely to upgrade is if (when?) the K-5 breaks and  
is not economically repairable.  Or if I win the lottery, but that's  
unlikely as I never buy tickets.

PS.  I've still got a few film cameras and most still work.  Actually  
Steve's given me the germ of an idea - perhaps we should have a  
special PUG in 2014 to celebrate the Spotmatic's 50th Anniversary  
(assuming you can still buy film in 2014...)


Cheers

Brian

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> From: Mark Roberts 
> Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12
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> Subject: Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...
>
> Steven Desjardins wrote:
>
>> OTOH, you can always upgrade the latest sensor.
>
> Not only *can* you upgrade the sensor, sometimes you're *forced* to.
> Whether you want to or not. Even if the "upgrade" is really *worse*
> than it's predecessor (in your opinion, which is really all that
> matters). Sometimes your favorite "sensor" is just discontinued and
> you can't buy it any more even though you really want to so you have
> to switch to a different sensor you don't like as much.
>
>> A body would also be good for 10 years.
>
> At least. I've got an MX that must be 30 years old and still works
> fine. Well, I assume it works fine - I haven't tried in a few years.
>
>
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RE: PESO 2012 - Balda photos - GDG

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Love both of these!

The tree is beautiful. I think a big print of would sell.

The other on is a lovely, relaxed, informal photo, beautifully rendered.

cheers,
frank

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From: Godfrey DiGiorgi 
Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12
To: SeePhoto Talk , "PAW Picture-A-Week project" 
, BAPhotoShooters BAPA , 
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Subject: PESO 2012 - Balda photos - GDG

I've been itching to take the old Balda (1955ish Baldix 6x6 folder) for a walk 
since it arrived, finally had a chance to do so over the weekend. 

I loaded it with Fuji Acros 100 for testing. I made a loading mistake this 
first time which cost me one frame out of the twelve. I know what I did wrong 
so I'll not do that one again. 

Otherwise, the camera performed very nicely other than for opening it. The lens 
standard mechanism is sticky and I think there's something bent or slightly out 
of alignment in it. It opens and snaps into place properly, eventually, but it 
takes a lot of careful fussing to make that happen. I'll bring it by the camera 
repair shop and see what Fred can do to massage it. Otherwise, the lens seems 
good, the shutter seems pretty accurate and the images have that lovely vintage 
look to them ... I felt good about posting a couple:

#2: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8019828444/lightbox

#6: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8019827304/lightbox

It's a lot of fun to let go of all the bits and bytes with a camera like this. 
And I still love the look of 6x6 photographs.
  
Thanks for looking! Comments are always appreciated. 

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Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

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I've got an MX that still works just fine (except the meter is pooched). I've 
got an SP500 (stripped down budget Spotmatic) that still functions perfectly. 
Two Spotmatics with sluggish shutters that likely only need a CLA (remember 
CLAs?). I have a Leica CL that according to the serial number was likely made 
in 1973 that works like a charm.

I have a Yashicamat LM (the meter never worked even when I bought it some 
twelve years ago). I am pretty certain it was built around 1957, making it only 
a year younger than me. Works great!

Can't imagine any current digital cameras sticking around that long.

Cheers,
frank

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From: Mark Roberts 
Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

Steven Desjardins wrote:

>OTOH, you can always upgrade the latest sensor.  

Not only *can* you upgrade the sensor, sometimes you're *forced* to.
Whether you want to or not. Even if the "upgrade" is really *worse*
than it's predecessor (in your opinion, which is really all that
matters). Sometimes your favorite "sensor" is just discontinued and
you can't buy it any more even though you really want to so you have
to switch to a different sensor you don't like as much.

>A body would also be good for 10 years.

At least. I've got an MX that must be 30 years old and still works
fine. Well, I assume it works fine - I haven't tried in a few years.

 
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RE: PESO - Lens and Eye

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Very pretty!

The camera, not your son. Good looking young man, but not pretty.

;-)

Beautifully composed and rendered!

cheers,
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From: Steve Cottrell 
Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12
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Subject: PESO - Lens and Eye

Actual Pentax content!






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Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

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I wasn't planning on it.

But thanks for your concern.

;-)

cheers,
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From: Steven Desjardins 
Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

Don't try it.  I took up the pipe when I quit cigarettes and got
hooked on it for 10 years.  Cigarettes taste pretty flat after a pipe.

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 8:41 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> Never tried a pipe. Nor a ~good~ cigar. Smoked cheap cigars and I always 
> found them nasty.
>
> Even though I quit tobacco (cigarettes) long ago K have always been curious 
> about pipes and (good) cigars. Not curious enough to try either though...
>
> ;-)
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
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>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: Steven Desjardins 
> Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?
>
> Chocolate, coffee, and once upon a time pipe tobacco.
>
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:06 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
>  wrote:
>> Thanks, Peter. That's the kind of constructive criticism that I find 
>> particularly helpful!
>>
>> And it was, I believe, a chocolate chip muffin.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> cheers,
>> frank
>>
>> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
>> Christopher Hitchens
>>
>> --- Original Message ---
>>
>> From: "P. J. Alling" 
>> Sent: September 24, 2012 9/24/12
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Subject: Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?
>>
>> I assume that's chocolate, which is undeniably one of life's great
>> pleasures.  However while the glare off the table can be forgiven, the
>> blacks are too blocked to convey an inviting texture to the pastry and
>> the coffee cup needs a bit more separation from it's shadow/reflection
>> in the saucer . Aside from that the composition is quite pleasing.
>>
>> On 9/24/2012 9:51 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I suppose there could be a huge debate on what life's greatest pleasures 
>>> really are but a good book, a muffin and an espresso would be a 
>>> consideration for me:
>>>
>>>   
>>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/lifes-greatest-pleasures.html?m=1
>>>
>>> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> frank
>>>
>>>
>>> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
>>> Christopher Hitchens
>>
>>
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>> lengthly search.
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Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

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Not going to comment on the scrim. I takes my photos as I find 'em. Collapsible 
 scrims? What's next:  velvet backdrops and spray bottles of glycerin? 

Sheesh!

;-)

Okay, on the gustatory issue: Please be aware that those are not my coffee or 
muffin. They belong to the hands of the lovely young lady at the next table.

For me, generally speaking, espresso is a stand-alone beverage. No need for 
cake, cookies, pastry or sweets. 
Like you I will have baked goods or pastry with a regular coffee. Not the 
chocolate chip muffin in the photo, however; it's not vegan.

:-)

Thanks for the comment and thanks to everyone else who looked and commented.

cheers,
frank

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From: Bruce Walker 
Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

Ditto what Peter says. I do like the shot though.

Next time you go there, Frank, take a collapsible scrim with you to
control the glare and let you raise the exposure so we can see the
muffin properly. I'll come with you if you need an assistant. Mmm,
chocolate.

On a more technical note: don't you find that pairing a muffin with an
espresso means that you run out of liquid long before you finish the
muffin? It's usually three or four sips or one quick swallow and that
espresso is done.

I'd rather have a cup of coffee with that chocolate muffin. With an
espresso, it should be a biscotti, I think.


On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10:59 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> I assume that's chocolate, which is undeniably one of life's great
> pleasures.  However while the glare off the table can be forgiven, the
> blacks are too blocked to convey an inviting texture to the pastry and the
> coffee cup needs a bit more separation from it's shadow/reflection in the
> saucer . Aside from that the composition is quite pleasing.
>
>
> On 9/24/2012 9:51 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> I suppose there could be a huge debate on what life's greatest pleasures
>> really are but a good book, a muffin and an espresso would be a
>> consideration for me:
>>
>>
>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/lifes-greatest-pleasures.html?m=1
>>
>> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> frank
>>
>>
>> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." --
>> Christopher Hitchens
>
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RE: Geso The General Store

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These make you look pretty comfortable to me!

I really like these. Beautifully converted/rendered and suitably anachronistic.

Lovely!

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From: Don Guthrie 
Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Geso The General Store

These photos are a little outside my usual comfort zone. I would like 
C&C. Does anyone like some of them; does someone like any of them ? Thanks.

http://donspix.smugmug.com/History/The-General-Store/25482546_cMH4Sz

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RE: OT, do you miss the heyday of bad web design?

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

That's why you make the Big Bucks, eh?

cheers,
frank

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From: Bob W 
Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12
To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
Subject: RE: OT, do you miss the heyday of bad web design?


Hell, no. Ours starts in the pits and goes downhill from there. 

We have 50 different and feuding people who get final say, then it has to be
signed off by someone who hates all of them and all of us. When it's been
signed off we circulate it to the different offices round the globe who get
to tell us which bits they don't want us to show, so we have to translate
their wishes into something that a computer can understand, then get it all
signed off again, which means put back the way it was before the overseas
offices made their contribution, which was only meant to be a token gesture.


After that our principal donor will tell us why it doesn't adhere to their
standards since they changed them last without telling us, and if we don't
adhere to the standards they'll cut off our funding. So now it has to go
through the full internal review process again because it's a major change,
and an emergency change at that because go-live was supposed to be in July,
but the emergency change board are scattered across 4 continents and 17 time
zones and we can't get a quorum. 

Somebody important says "Something must be done", so I make an arbitrary
decision to go live, because that's something, therefore it must be done,
and throw it over to the support team to sort out at their leisure.

B


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Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

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Thanks, Don. Not technically perfect by a long shot but my feelings are similar 
to yours.

Cheers,
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From: Don Guthrie 
Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re:  PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

" A loaf of bread,a jug of wine, and thou" I like this photo. It says 
the world in three objects.


pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 01:51:30 +0000 (UTC)
> From:"knarftheria...@gmail.com"  
> To:PDML@pdml.net
> Subject: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?
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>
> I suppose there could be a huge debate on what life's greatest pleasures 
> really are but a good book, a muffin and an espresso would be a consideration 
> for me:
>
>   http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/lifes-greatest-pleasures.html?m=1
>
> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> frank


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Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

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Never tried a pipe. Nor a ~good~ cigar. Smoked cheap cigars and I always found 
them nasty.

Even though I quit tobacco (cigarettes) long ago K have always been curious 
about pipes and (good) cigars. Not curious enough to try either though...

;-)

cheers,
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From: Steven Desjardins 
Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

Chocolate, coffee, and once upon a time pipe tobacco.

On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:06 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> Thanks, Peter. That's the kind of constructive criticism that I find 
> particularly helpful!
>
> And it was, I believe, a chocolate chip muffin.
>
> :-)
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
> Christopher Hitchens
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: "P. J. Alling" 
> Sent: September 24, 2012 9/24/12
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?
>
> I assume that's chocolate, which is undeniably one of life's great
> pleasures.  However while the glare off the table can be forgiven, the
> blacks are too blocked to convey an inviting texture to the pastry and
> the coffee cup needs a bit more separation from it's shadow/reflection
> in the saucer . Aside from that the composition is quite pleasing.
>
> On 9/24/2012 9:51 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I suppose there could be a huge debate on what life's greatest pleasures 
>> really are but a good book, a muffin and an espresso would be a 
>> consideration for me:
>>
>>   http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/lifes-greatest-pleasures.html?m=1
>>
>> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> frank
>>
>>
>> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
>> Christopher Hitchens
>
>
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RE: Yet Another Holiday

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Somebody has killed Bob and stolen his computer!!

cheers,
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From: Bob W 
Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12
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Subject: RE: Yet Another Holiday



My pUTER DOE'snt have a cap's lock key I called the HELP DE'sk but everytime
I tell them my name the phone cut's OUT I DON'T think there system work lol

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Re: OT - Shoulder injury update

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Thanks, Dave. I have to say that I am really impressed with the care I have 
received both this time and previous occasions at this hospital (St. Joseph's 
in Toronto). I can't blame a harried ER doctor for missing a difficult call and 
I am grateful that they obviously take great care in reviewing and following up 
on files. I was told by the doctor yesterday morning that it's a break that 
she's never seen before and a difficult "catch" for anyone to see in the x-rays.

To answer a few earlier posters, there is no physio yet. Keeping it as still as 
possible is what's needed now. As the bone knits I will be "assigned" physio to 
make sure that shoulders don't freeze and some strength is built up.

Like the other day, will not clog the list with individual replies but a big 
thanks to all (whether you replied or not) for thoughts and support.

This could have been so much worse. I am grateful I am walking and have an 
intact cranium and (most important) that my beautiful Marinoni is still with us.

;-)

cheers,
frank aka the one-armed bandit

Ps: Carrying K10D with me at work. Ann, I already have a subway shot from 
yesterday! Hope to get a few good streeties (as Derby calls them).

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From: David Mann 
Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: OT - Shoulder injury update

Good to see they picked it up.  All you need to do now is rest and listen to 
your physiotherapist.

I wanna see the X-ray too, even if you have to draw one :)

My only injury today was a bruised wallet.  Maintaining bikes is not cheap.

Dave

On Sep 25, 2012, at 1:09 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

> Got a call from the hospital yesterday. Upon reviewing x-rays they now see a 
> fracture and I should reattend Monday morning. Which I did.
> 
> Fracture of the clavical right near the tip. It's like a small chip got 
> shaved off.
> 
> Good news: should heal well. Six weeks in a sling and I should be good to 
> ride a bike.
> 
> So I am doing my job walking and on transit. 
> 
> More good news: This time I have a driver with insurance. Due to Ontario's no 
> fault system it may be hard to get pain and suffering out of him but at least 
> out-of-pockets will be covered.
> 
> I actually think that bones may heal faster and more completely than soft 
> tissue (he says looking for a silver lining).
> 
> ;-)
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
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Re: PESO - Vespa Princess

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Thanks Dave. Honestly it's not the best pan. I wish she was sharper.

But the look on her face worked for me and at least partially made up for 
technical deficits in my eyes.

Thanks for the comment and thanks to all who looked and commented.

Cheers,
frank

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From: David J Brooks 
Sent: September 24, 2012 9/24/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: PESO - Vespa Princess

Well done. Just the right motion here

Dave

On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 9:32 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> Seen along Queen West in Toronto:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/vespa-princess.html
>
> I rather impressed myself with the fact that this is full-frame.
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank
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RE: PESO: Capturing his friends

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Yeah, capturing his friends backs...

;-)

I do like your photo, though, Dan. The shot od the group is good, like the 
church background and the guy with the camera (holding it at arm's length for 
maximum steadiness) is icing on the cake.

Well done.

Cheers,
frank


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From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
Sent: September 24, 2012 9/24/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: PESO: Capturing his friends

A friend takes pictures of a group of young musicians at the outdoor
Jazz Festival:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16479690

Comments are always appreciated.
Dan Matyola
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Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

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Thanks, Peter. That's the kind of constructive criticism that I find 
particularly helpful! 

And it was, I believe, a chocolate chip muffin.

:-)

cheers,
frank

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From: "P. J. Alling" 
Sent: September 24, 2012 9/24/12
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Subject: Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

I assume that's chocolate, which is undeniably one of life's great 
pleasures.  However while the glare off the table can be forgiven, the 
blacks are too blocked to convey an inviting texture to the pastry and 
the coffee cup needs a bit more separation from it's shadow/reflection 
in the saucer . Aside from that the composition is quite pleasing.

On 9/24/2012 9:51 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
> I suppose there could be a huge debate on what life's greatest pleasures 
> really are but a good book, a muffin and an espresso would be a consideration 
> for me:
>
>   http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/lifes-greatest-pleasures.html?m=1
>
> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
>
> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
> Christopher Hitchens


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RE: PESO: Butterfly Bush

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My favourite butterfly!

They really like that flower up here, too. It's lovely to see them on it 
because the colours work so well together.

Love this shot! Sharp, well composed, beautiful colours.

Cheers, 
frank 

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From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
Sent: September 24, 2012 9/24/12
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Subject: PESO: Butterfly Bush

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16480535

Comments are invited

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PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

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I suppose there could be a huge debate on what life's greatest pleasures really 
are but a good book, a muffin and an espresso would be a consideration for me:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/lifes-greatest-pleasures.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
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RE: PESO: Rock

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And mist. The mist makes it for me. Along with the wonderful composition and 
muted colours.

Like this a lot.

Cheers,
frank

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From: Tim Bray 
Sent: September 24, 2012 9/24/12
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Subject: PESO: Rock

Ocean too, and a log:
https://plus.google.com/photos/107606703558161507946/albums/posts/5791629813281150210

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RE: K5 acting up?... plus a PESO

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Can't help with the camera (hope it's a one-time anomaly) but that's a terrific 
photo of your son. Such attitude!

cheers,
frank

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From: Christine Nielsen 
Sent: September 23, 2012 9/23/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: K5 acting up?... plus a PESO

Hello all,

Here's a head-scratcher:

Tonight, I was shooting senior portraits of my son.  We had gone out
to the track at the high school, a place he holds quite dear, for the
occasion.  As the evening grew darker, I had my flash (540) set up on
a stand & softbox, firing with the camera's wireless remote system.
All was fine, more or less, for several minutes.  Until the camera
stopped shooting.  I would press the shutter, and I'd get a flicker of
light (focus assist or pop up flash signalling the 540?  not sure..),
but the shutter wouldn't fire. Several times I would re-focus and try
again, but nothing.  I tried the following:

- turning the whole thing off & on again
- turning off the focus assist light
- setting the AF to release priority, instead of focus priority
- using manual focus
- turning off flash, shooting manual exposure mode
- shooting in Av, Tv, Tav, P and AUTO

None of these got the shutter to fire.

We packed it in for the day, and when I got home, 20 minutes later, I
tried the camera again.  Worked fine, in Av, M, Tav, etc... though I
didn't try it with the wireless flash again...  Mind you, this whole
shutter mechanism was recently replaced (6 months ago) at CRIS.  So,
I'm thinking I must be doing something wrong, or at least missing
something.   What do you make of this?   Any thoughts?

Lastly, just for fun -- a peso.  My son, Nick, from tonight.  Looking
as bad as he is able...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/8018036378/in/photostream/

Thanks in advance--
:)
-c




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RE: PAW142 - Balloon

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More minimalist brilliance from the master.

Reminds me of the French film The Red Balloon that I saw as a kid...

Cheers,
frank

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From: DagT 
Sent: September 23, 2012 9/23/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: PAW142 - Balloon

http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
K-5, DA21mm, 1/160s, f/11, ISO400.

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RE: PESO - Morgans

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Beautiful horses, well captured.

Cheers,
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From: Paul Stenquist 
Sent: September 23, 2012 9/23/12
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Subject: PESO - Morgans

A pair of 'em, leading the pack:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16478894

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OT - Shoulder injury update

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Got a call from the hospital yesterday. Upon reviewing x-rays they now see a 
fracture and I should reattend Monday morning. Which I did.

Fracture of the clavical right near the tip. It's like a small chip got shaved 
off.

Good news: should heal well. Six weeks in a sling and I should be good to ride 
a bike.

So I am doing my job walking and on transit. 

More good news: This time I have a driver with insurance. Due to Ontario's no 
fault system it may be hard to get pain and suffering out of him but at least 
out-of-pockets will be covered.

I actually think that bones may heal faster and more completely than soft 
tissue (he says looking for a silver lining).

;-)

cheers,
frank

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RE: PESOs a woody for Frank, and a couple others from the Folsom Street Fair

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Actually, I prefer bamboo...

;-)

Looks like a cool bike though.  Seriously, I think that metal is best for a 
strong, long lasting frame for heavy urban use.

Cheers,
frank

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From: Larry Colen 
Sent: September 24, 2012 9/24/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: PESOs a woody for Frank, and a couple others from the Folsom Street 
Fair

The Folsom Street Fair is a San Francisco "Leather Pride" celebration.  On one 
hand it is an incredibly rich opportunity to photograph certain elements of 
society enjoying life with an exuberance which is hard to believe. On the other 
hand, sometimes seeing this exuberance makes you want to scrub your brain with 
steel wool and bleach.  I've got a set of photos from today that would probably 
all be OK in most reasonably liberal workplaces.   I did get one photo of 
someone's woody, that I think Frank might appreciate:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8018818394/

I think that this photo captures the exuberance, without showing anything too 
outrageously risque:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8018815163/

It was nearly as much fun checking out the camera gear in use at the fair.  Of 
course there was the usual assortment of canikon SLRs. I also saw a K-7 and two 
full frame Pentax SLRs. One was an ME, I didn't catch what the other was.  I 
also saw an 8x10 view camera, a 6x7 rangefinder or two, several MF film 
cameras, and a Nikon F set up to shoot from ground level.  I was amused to note 
this ginger, with a DSLR around her neck, photographing some of the local color 
with her cell phone:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8018824050/

While none of these photos are actually "lewd", I advise caution as to who 
might be looking over your shoulder if and when you open the links.
My full set from the day is posted at:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157631610110915/

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RE: Peso The bride

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Beautifully rendered and I like the photo too. A real feeling of anticipation.

Cheers,
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From: David J Brooks 
Sent: September 23, 2012 9/23/12
To: Pentax Discuss , Barbara Brooks 
Subject: Peso The bride

http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/8015313410/in/photostream

Playing around with LR B&W plug ins

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RE: PESO a steaming pile of cliche

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Cliche or not it's a beautiful photo.

Cheers,
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From: Larry Colen 
Sent: September 23, 2012 9/23/12
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Subject: PESO  a steaming pile of cliche

It's kind of fun how playing with the curves can bring the colors out though:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8014630906/in/set-72157631601242039

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RE: PESO: Artists' Sink

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Interesting shot! 

Cheers,
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From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
Sent: September 22, 2012 9/22/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: PESO: Artists' Sink

Sink stained with ink in the Printmaking Center of New Jersey:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16474918

Comments are appreciated.

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RE: OT - Leica X2 noise test (really: Sony 16Mpixel sensor love … ;-)

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Reminds me of Enzo Ferrari, who said (paraphrasing liberally) that by the time 
one can afford to buy his cars they are too old to enjoy them.

cheers,
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From: Bob W 
Sent: September 23, 2012 9/23/12
To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 


Leicas are wasted on the type of people who can afford them.




> On 9/22/2012 7:16 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I own a Leica and I can assure you that not all the photos I have
> taken with it are sharp.
> >
[...]
> >
> > Ya, and you'll be able to see the King's new clothes.  Regards,  Bob
> S.
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Tim Bray 
> wrote:
> >> On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Larry Colen 
> wrote:
> >>> Sometimes, perfectly sharp just isn't possible, especially on a
> Pentax rather than a Leica budget.
> >> Oh, so if I get a Leica my pictures will all be sharp?  Zowie!  -T




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Re: OT - Leica X2 noise test (really: Sony 16Mpixel sensor love … ;-)

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Yeah, well none of that seemed to bother HCB too much, did it?

;-)

cheers,
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--- Original Message ---

From: "P. J. Alling" 
Sent: September 23, 2012 

Well it's IIIc and it's controls are pretty clunky compared to well 
almost anything else and it's range finder wasn't combined with it's 
viewfinder which isn't really any better than a Kodak Retina IIc's and I 
had a Kodak Retina IIc, and a Pentax so I never bothered to get better 
with it, oh and it's shutter's noisier than the Retina's was too...

>
> B
>
>
>> On 9/22/2012 7:16 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I own a Leica and I can assure you that not all the photos I have
>> taken with it are sharp.
> [...]
>>> Ya, and you'll be able to see the King's new clothes.  Regards,  Bob
>> S.
>>> On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Tim Bray 
>> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Larry Colen 
>> wrote:
>>>>> Sometimes, perfectly sharp just isn't possible, especially on a
>> Pentax rather than a Leica budget.
>>>> Oh, so if I get a Leica my pictures will all be sharp?  Zowie!  -T
>
>
>


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RE: Peso: Beau Chapeau

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The first one is a wonderful portrait of le chien and the second is a fun, 
relaxed pic with Debby and Dog.

Love 'em both!

cheers,
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--- Original Message ---

From: Steven Desjardins 
Sent: September 22, 2012 9/22/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Peso: Beau Chapeau

We've been keeping my daughter's dog until she got a DC apartment that
would take dogs.  She's picking him up next weekend.  I sent her these
with the message:  Pick him him up soon or he's wearing a dress:

http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-Mv2RsL7/0/L/hat-2-L.jpg
http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-ztrg2nZ/0/L/hat-3-L.jpg

-- Steve Desjardins

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RE: PESO - Tasha and Friend

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Just when you think puppets are our trusted allies...

That's quite the photo, Bruce! Definitely not something we see every day on 
this list.

;-)

cheers,
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--- Original Message ---

From: Bruce Walker 
Sent: September 22, 2012 9/22/12
To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List 
Subject: PESO - Tasha and Friend

Or: "How I Spent My Saturday"

Sorry to hit'n'run, but I just had to share this before I go and crash
for the day. I was on-set all day during filming of a low-budget indie
horror flick -- with puppets! Here's one still I grabbed of "Tasha"
with one of her "Friends" ...

http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8013800477/lightbox/

More shots and details to come.

K20D, DA* 55/1.4 @ F:2.2, 1/100th, ISO 1600, handheld. Scene lighting
only. Light Lr touchups.

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Re: Help - striking a um _cord_ does anyone have...???

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Certainly looks like a standard power cord plug to me.

Cheers,
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--- Original Message ---

From: Ann Sanfedele 
Sent: September 22, 2012 9/22/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: Help - striking a um _cord_  does anyone have...???

Here :-)

http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Stuff-to-show-PDML-for-various/4796533_2JPwqh/1/2103501453_kSBcf3b/Medium


On 9/22/2012 20:30, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> Hi Ann,
>
> I have a number of power cords in my parts box. Some are similar: a triangle 
> shaped three prong connector that plugs into the monitor or device.  But I 
> think I have other types as well. None from a dell, but I might have one that 
> would fit. Can you take a picture of the receptacle on the monitor?
>
> Paul
> On Sep 22, 2012, at 8:19 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
>
>> does anyone have the power cord for a Dell Monitor S-32321. ?
>>
>> I took a gamble and bought a little dell monitor for $15 at the salvation 
>> army.  I have the cord that will go to my bus but not the
>> cord that goes to the power source th goes into the "AC IN" on the monitor.
>>
>> The bar code on the Monitor says CN-06R644-47804-280-conu
>>
>> I gambled on the monitor - my PROVIEW is still doing the
>> dance of blinking at me now and then or going totally black if I up the 
>> brightness.
>>
>> T I A
>> ann
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Re: OT - Leica X2 noise test (really: Sony 16Mpixel sensor love … ;-)

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Please.

We prefer to call it "ethereal monochromatic diurnal urban imagery".

Thank you,
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From: Steven Desjardins 
Sent: September 22, 2012 9/22/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: OT - Leica X2 noise test (really: Sony 16Mpixel sensor love … ;-)

Hey, Frank does blurry urban B&W during daytime as well.

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> Please:
>
> We prefer calling it "ethereal monochromatic nocturnal urban imagery".
>
> Thank you,
> frank
>
> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
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>
> --- Original Message ---
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> From: Larry Colen 
> Sent: September 22, 2012 9/22/12
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>   ...or Frank about blurry black and white photos taken at night in the 
> city.  
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Please:

We prefer calling it "ethereal monochromatic nocturnal urban imagery".

Thank you,
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  ...or Frank about blurry black and white photos taken at night in the 
city.  

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Re: GESO A little more play with the astrotracer

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Agree with Dave. Very cool stuff, Larry!

cheers,
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From: David J Brooks 
Sent: September 22, 2012 9/22/12
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Subject: Re: GESO A little more play with the astrotracer

Very good Larry

Dave

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> I was experimenting with the astrotracer a bit more last night.  Mostly 
> shooting without the darkfield noise reduction.
>
> http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157631591611375/
>
> There's a lot to learn about getting the best performance out of it.  Some of 
> the photos were surprisingly good at upwards of ISO 5000, where I'd just 
> crank the ISO and hand hold the shutter in bulb for about 10 seconds just to 
> check my framing.
>
> The FA77 did surprisingly poorly, I didn't get any really good shots with it.
>
> Japanese calligraphy when you don't know japanese, and you don't get to see 
> what you've written is surprisingly difficult.
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Re: OT - Leica X2 noise test (really: Sony 16Mpixel sensor love … ;-)

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I own a Leica and I can assure you that not all the photos I have taken with it 
are sharp.

;-)

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From: Bob Sullivan 
Sent: September 22, 2012 9/22/12
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Subject: Re: OT - Leica X2 noise test (really: Sony 16Mpixel sensor love … ;-)

Ya, and you'll be able to see the King's new clothes.  Regards,  Bob S.

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> On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
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>> rather than a Leica budget.
>
> Oh, so if I get a Leica my pictures will all be sharp?  Zowie!  -T
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Re: PESO: Goofin' with the Pentax Q digital filters for in-camera post-processing

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Missed this earlier but I really like these. Very interesting looks to these!

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frank

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From: Mark C 
Sent: September 21, 2012 9/21/12
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Subject: Re: PESO: Goofin' with the Pentax Q digital filters for in-camera 
post-processing

Interesting collection - so, that was one exposure and you just applied 
the 20 something filters to it? I have a ton of work travel coming up 
and may have just found a way to idle away the evening hours...

Mark

On 9/19/2012 1:05 AM, Darren Addy wrote:
> I had never played around with the Pentax Q "Digital Filters" (in
> camera) before... not as you take the photo, but in processing in the
> camera after taking the original photos. I started with a Bracketed
> Exposure set of three images (normal, over, under) and then played
> around with the digital filters and their parameters. If I saw
> something that looked decent, I would Save As...
>
> You can also use two or more digital filters in combination on your
> image. Since I shoot RAW+, the original RAW files are still on the
> card, untouched for me to play with in post-processing "for real" with
> Snapseed or Lightroom or Photoshop. Not all images will be everyone's
> cup 'o tea (they aren't all MY cup 'o tea, either!)
>
> http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8446/8002065034_11db51224d_z.jpg
>
> I put all 22 images (including the original 3) in a Flickr set for
> those interested:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/sets/72157631571806897/with/8002065034/
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RE: PESO: It's Good for You

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Dear me!

cheers,
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Ps: Fun photo!

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From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
Sent: September 22, 2012 9/22/12
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Subject: PESO: It's Good for You

An exhibit on display at the Printmaking Center of New Jersey:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16474919

Comments are appreciated.

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RE: PESO: Creature of the Night

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Very well captured especially given the conditional limitations!

cheers,
frank

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From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
Sent: September 22, 2012 9/22/12
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Subject: PESO: Creature of the Night

My dog discovered this guy shortly after nightfall this evening,   On
a whim, I decided to see if I could capture him with my K-r.  I just
pointed the camera where I thought he was, pressed the shutter button
down half way, and tried to frame his by the light of the autofocus
preflash.  This was the best of my efforts.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16474955

Comments will be appreciated.

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RE: OT GESO Vernal Equinox

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Your usual wonderful work. Of particular brilliance (for me) are the lady next 
to the little statue and the skaeboarder with the armcast.

Great stuff!

cheers,
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--- Original Message ---

From: Derby Chang 
Sent: September 22, 2012 9/22/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: OT GESO Vernal Equinox


(if my calculations are correct) Happy equinox. Gorgeous day today, so 
had to be out there. Rather heavy on the police presence after last 
weeks' shenanigans, but all was calm this weekend

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_09/12_09_vernalequinox/index.htm


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