Re: *ist-Ds price drop
I would have thought that Oly, Fuji, and Sigma would account for many of those. although Pentax probably has the biggest piece of the remaining pie. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/17/2005 7:02:01 PM FWIW, CIPA says that Japanese manufactures build about 2.5M DSLRs in 2004. Canon formally announced production of 1.3M in 2004. best guess for Nikon is 700-800K. that leaves between 300K and 400K units for everyone else combined. i believe, with no proof, that Pentax accounts for most of the remainder. Canon also said that they will announce 3 new DSLRs this year. we have seen one already in the D-Rebel XT. i don't know if i would call the 20Da a new DSLR or not. no matter how you count things though, that means at least one more DSLR announcement this year from Canon. Herb... - Original Message - From: Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 3:26 PM Subject: Re: *ist-Ds price drop The *ist-Ds isn't really that old--it's only been shipping for, what, three months? The *ist-D starting shipping in the summer of 2003 and went out of production at the end of 2004. I would expect that Pentax is planning to ship the *ist-Ds for a total of at least 12 months and maybe 18. At $725 vs $780 for the current D-Rebel and ~$900 for the just-announced D-Rebel XT, it looks like a pretty good deal.
Re: *ist-Ds price drop
Canon is gearing up to manufacture almost 200K units/month of the Digital Rebel XT. Herb - Original Message - From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:08 AM Subject: Re: *ist-Ds price drop I would have thought that Oly, Fuji, and Sigma would account for many of those. although Pentax probably has the biggest piece of the remaining pie.
*ist-Ds price drop
I check BH and Adorama this morning and they are both selling the *ist-Ds for $725. --Mark
Re: *ist-Ds price drop
This could mean one of two things, 1.) They don't have an upgraded replacement to compete with the new Canon D-Rebel XT and they've decided to compete on price alone, or 2.) they have a replacement coming and they want to blow out the old stock and make room before they have to sell them for even less. Mark Erickson wrote: I check BH and Adorama this morning and they are both selling the *ist-Ds for $725. --Mark -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: *ist-Ds price drop
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Peter J. Alling wrote: This could mean one of two things, 1.) They don't have an upgraded replacement to compete with the new Canon D-Rebel XT and they've decided to compete on price alone, or 2.) they have a replacement coming and they want to blow out the old stock and make room before they have to sell them for even less. How about It was priced high for early adopters and now went to a more competitive (even lossy) price? I seem to recall that the -D price dropped before stopping production. Kostas
Re: *ist-Ds price drop
Production may have stopped on the *istD but sales haven't stopped. BH has it in stock and is selling it for $1199.95 That's the same price I paid for my second camera, which I bought in August of last year. As reported here, the *istDS is $724.95. Paul On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Peter J. Alling wrote: This could mean one of two things, 1.) They don't have an upgraded replacement to compete with the new Canon D-Rebel XT and they've decided to compete on price alone, or 2.) they have a replacement coming and they want to blow out the old stock and make room before they have to sell them for even less. How about It was priced high for early adopters and now went to a more competitive (even lossy) price? I seem to recall that the -D price dropped before stopping production. Kostas
Re: *ist-Ds price drop
So you're voting for number 2. It's more hopeful than 1. Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Peter J. Alling wrote: This could mean one of two things, 1.) They don't have an upgraded replacement to compete with the new Canon D-Rebel XT and they've decided to compete on price alone, or 2.) they have a replacement coming and they want to blow out the old stock and make room before they have to sell them for even less. How about It was priced high for early adopters and now went to a more competitive (even lossy) price? I seem to recall that the -D price dropped before stopping production. Kostas -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: *ist-Ds price drop
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Peter J. Alling wrote: This could mean one of two things, 1.) They don't have an upgraded replacement to compete with the new Canon D-Rebel XT and they've decided to compete on price alone, or 2.) they have a replacement coming and they want to blow out the old stock and make room before they have to sell them for even less. The *ist-Ds isn't really that old--it's only been shipping for, what, three months? The *ist-D starting shipping in the summer of 2003 and went out of production at the end of 2004. I would expect that Pentax is planning to ship the *ist-Ds for a total of at least 12 months and maybe 18. At $725 vs $780 for the current D-Rebel and ~$900 for the just-announced D-Rebel XT, it looks like a pretty good deal.
Re: *ist-Ds price drop
Production may have stopped on the *istD but sales haven't stopped. BH has it in stock and is selling it for $1199.95 That's the same price I paid for my second camera, which I bought in August of last year. As reported here, the *istDS is $724.95. Paul On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Peter J. Alling wrote: This could mean one of two things, 1.) They don't have an upgraded replacement to compete with the new Canon D-Rebel XT and they've decided to compete on price alone, or 2.) they have a replacement coming and they want to blow out the old stock and make room before they have to sell them for even less. How about It was priced high for early adopters and now went to a more competitive (even lossy) price? I seem to recall that the -D price dropped before stopping production. Kostas
RE: *ist-Ds price drop
Is that for a new one? If it drops a bit more I may have to snap one up. -Original Message- From: Mark Erickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:44 AM To: pentax-discuss Subject: *ist-Ds price drop I check BH and Adorama this morning and they are both selling the *ist-Ds for $725. --Mark
Re: *ist-Ds price drop
On 17/2/05, Mark Erickson, discombobulated, unleashed: I check BH and Adorama this morning and they are both selling the *ist-Ds for $725. Good grief - that's little more than 370 quid. I'd pick one up in a jif for that. might have to wait until GFM 2006 Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: *ist-Ds price drop
Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This could mean one of two things, 1.) They don't have an upgraded replacement to compete with the new Canon D-Rebel XT and they've decided to compete on price alone, or 2.) they have a replacement coming and they want to blow out the old stock and make room before they have to sell them for even less. It probably means that they're re-pricing the ist-DS to a level with the original Rebel-D (its real competitor). Canon isn't discontinuing the original Rebel-D, they're keeping it in the lineup and dropping the price. Pentax is just pricing the DS to be comparable to its real competition (in the eyes of the public - as far as I'm concerned the Rebel is in a cheesy league of its own). -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: *ist-Ds price drop
FWIW, CIPA says that Japanese manufactures build about 2.5M DSLRs in 2004. Canon formally announced production of 1.3M in 2004. best guess for Nikon is 700-800K. that leaves between 300K and 400K units for everyone else combined. i believe, with no proof, that Pentax accounts for most of the remainder. Canon also said that they will announce 3 new DSLRs this year. we have seen one already in the D-Rebel XT. i don't know if i would call the 20Da a new DSLR or not. no matter how you count things though, that means at least one more DSLR announcement this year from Canon. Herb... - Original Message - From: Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 3:26 PM Subject: Re: *ist-Ds price drop The *ist-Ds isn't really that old--it's only been shipping for, what, three months? The *ist-D starting shipping in the summer of 2003 and went out of production at the end of 2004. I would expect that Pentax is planning to ship the *ist-Ds for a total of at least 12 months and maybe 18. At $725 vs $780 for the current D-Rebel and ~$900 for the just-announced D-Rebel XT, it looks like a pretty good deal.
