Re: *ist D Formula 1 tests

2004-02-28 Thread Dr. Heiko Hamann
Hi Cotty,

on 27 Feb 04 you wrote in pentax.list:

[snip]
How about popping over to London in May and we'll buy you some decent
beer and you can check out my in-camera sharpening ?

Good idea! I haven't been in GB before - might be a nice weekend trip to
make a scientific examination of cameras, beer and whisky ;-)

Cheers, Heiko



Re: *ist D Formula 1 tests

2004-02-28 Thread Cotty
On 28/2/04, DARIO disgorged:


My main business is in the photography field as a technical
translator/writer and copywriter. If I can get some money from my pictures,
I won't reject it, but it happens sooo rarely!

That day I was working at the track as a technical interpreter, invited
there by a Ferrari sponsor. For that reason, I couldn't spend all the time I
wished shooting cars and drivers, but I did my best.

Coool. I understand about the working bit. I have done a few press days
at Silverstone, mainly interviews and shooting (video) of a few laps by
Williams drivers Ralph and Juan. It would be nice to put the damn Betacam
down and take some real pics :-)

It's great having the access when it's quiet. Unfortunately for us, here
in the UK, during race days we cannot get accreditation as the sole UK TV
access is granted only to ITV Sport, and even though we are ITV News, we
can't get in! I think the Beeb and Sky get a crew each in, but that's it.

Really nice shots - keep it up!

Looking forward to next weekend :-)


Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: *ist D Formula 1 tests

2004-02-28 Thread John Francis
 
 It's great having the access when it's quiet. Unfortunately for us, here
 in the UK, during race days we cannot get accreditation as the sole UK TV
 access is granted only to ITV Sport, and even though we are ITV News, we
 can't get in! I think the Beeb and Sky get a crew each in, but that's it.

Photographer access to F1 races is a *very* tightly controlled business.

When I was in Montreal for the inaugural CART race I was amazed to find
that the good photo stands were all tagged and labelled.  A photographer
would get his access pass to one particular photo spot for the F1 race;
none of the wandering around the track and gentlemanly sharing of spots
that I see on the CART (or ALMS) circuit.



Re: *ist D Formula 1 tests

2004-02-28 Thread cbwaters

- Original Message - 
From: John Francis  none of the wandering around the track and
gentlemanly sharing of spots
 that I see on the CART (or ALMS) circuit.


Oh what I wouldn't give for a few plane tickets and those credentials.

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Re: *ist D Formula 1 tests

2004-02-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/2/04, AN F1 NUT  disgorged:

 Here is a selection of *ist D pictures I took yesterday:
 
 http://www.dariobonazza.com/f1_04e.htm
 
 Dario Bonazza
 

Very nice, Dario. Forgive me, I don't recall your background. Do you
shoot for money or are these for pleasure? In what capacity were you at
the track?

Just curious,


Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: *ist D Formula 1 tests

2004-02-27 Thread Cotty

Astonishing for me - ISO800! Now the reality shows: the low sharpening
of the *istD - often criticized - is a big advantage. A stronger
sharpening would have increased the noise, too.

Cheers, Heiko

Just as a point of information, the sharpening can be set in these DSLR
cameras to the desired level. I keep sharpening set to low - I am much
happier deciding if and how much to sharpen a pic later on the monitor


Cheers,
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Re: *ist D Formula 1 tests

2004-02-27 Thread Dr. Heiko Hamann
Hi Cotty,

on 27 Feb 04 you wrote in pentax.list:

Just as a point of information, the sharpening can be set in these DSLR
cameras to the desired level.

Yes, but the highest level of sharpening that the *istD offers, sharpens
less than Canon's normal or even low setting.

I keep sharpening set to low - I am much
happier deciding if and how much to sharpen a pic later on the monitor

I like my *istD's pictures most with sharpening set to high. But that
might simply be the same as your low-setting ;-)

Cheers, Heiko



Re: *ist D Formula 1 tests

2004-02-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/2/04, DOCTOR HEIKO disgorged:

Just as a point of information, the sharpening can be set in these DSLR
cameras to the desired level.

Yes, but the highest level of sharpening that the *istD offers, sharpens
less than Canon's normal or even low setting.

Interesting. Do you have any references to substantiate this?



Cheers,
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Re: *ist D Formula 1 tests

2004-02-27 Thread Christian Skofteland
dpreview showed this in their testing

Christian Skofteland
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- Original Message - 
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: *ist D  Formula 1 tests


 On 27/2/04, DOCTOR HEIKO disgorged:
 
 Just as a point of information, the sharpening can be set in these DSLR
 cameras to the desired level.
 
 Yes, but the highest level of sharpening that the *istD offers, sharpens
 less than Canon's normal or even low setting.
 
 Interesting. Do you have any references to substantiate this?
 
 
 
 Cheers,
   Cotty



Re: *ist D Formula 1 tests

2004-02-27 Thread Dr. Heiko Hamann
Hi Cotty,

on 27 Feb 04 you wrote in pentax.list:

On 27/2/04, DOCTOR HEIKO disgorged:

LOL

Yes, but the highest level of sharpening that the *istD offers, sharpens
less than Canon's normal or even low setting.
Interesting. Do you have any references to substantiate this?

Hm, I don't have a D60 to compare ;-) but I remember to have read
something like taht in the web. At least Phil Askey writes:

--
Image softness

One niggle however must be the soft appearance of images from the
camera, this I put down to two distinct areas. Firstly the lack of pin-
sharp crispness (even when deliberately stopping down the lens) reminds
me of the results we got from Nikon's D100 (which uses the same sensor).
Secondly it does look to me as though Pentax has chosen to take a hands-
off approach when it comes to sharpening, choosing to avoid sharpening
artifacts and enhanced noise by keeping the in-camera sharpening
algorithms to a lower level than we are perhaps used to seeing. I would
have preferred Pentax to offer more latitude of adjustment of the in-
camera sharpening.
--
(http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxistd/page15.asp)


Michael Reichmann says:
--

The Sharpening Issue

In late October as this is being written, and during the few weeks that
the *ist D has been on the market, there has been discussion on some Net
discussion forums about the camera's images being soft. Nonsense.
Pentax has wisely avoided oversharpening images in the camera. When
properly sharpened they leave nothing to be desired. Once again
beginners and the uninformed are confusing resolution with sharpening.
--
(http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/pentax-istd.shtml)


Steve writes:
--
The in-camera image sharpening is very low on the normal setting and
only just a little bit sharper when the hard setting is used. For my
tastes I ended up using a good amount of Photoshop's USM (unsharp mask)
to my final images to get the look I was used to from my Nikon D100. I
imagine that Pentax has kept the in-camera sharpening low to help reduce
the apparent image noise, especially in the lower contrast shadow areas.
--
(http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/istd_pg7.html)



But again - this is no direct comparison. I think it would be the best,
if yousent me your D60 and I will make some comparisons ;-)

Cheers, Heiko



Re: *ist D Formula 1 tests

2004-02-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/2/04, EHH WHAT'S UP DOC? disgorged:

LOL

Yes, but the highest level of sharpening that the *istD offers, sharpens
less than Canon's normal or even low setting.
Interesting. Do you have any references to substantiate this?

Hm, I don't have a D60 to compare ;-) but I remember to have read
something like taht in the web. At least Phil Askey writes:

[snip]

Excellent resources Heiko! Thanks very much. I haven't been paying
attention ;-)

How about popping over to London in May and we'll buy you some decent
beer and you can check out my in-camera sharpening ?



Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: *ist D Formula 1 tests

2004-02-27 Thread Herb Chong
the Pentax RAW conversion software offers more sharpening than the camera
does.

Herb
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From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: *ist D  Formula 1 tests


 Yes, but the highest level of sharpening that the *istD offers, sharpens
 less than Canon's normal or even low setting.

 Interesting. Do you have any references to substantiate this?




*ist D Formula 1 tests

2004-02-26 Thread Dario Bonazza
Here is a selection of *ist D pictures I took yesterday:

http://www.dariobonazza.com/f1_04e.htm

Dario Bonazza



Re: *ist D Formula 1 tests

2004-02-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
Very nice. I love the Coulthard pan and the Schumacher head shot. Great 
work. Thanks for sharing.
paul
On Feb 26, 2004, at 4:11 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote:

Here is a selection of *ist D pictures I took yesterday:

http://www.dariobonazza.com/f1_04e.htm

Dario Bonazza




Re: *ist D Formula 1 tests

2004-02-26 Thread Dario Bonazza
I forgot to write that many pictures were taken at higher ISO settings
(800), with very good color rendition and no visible noise. However, the
Exif will tell you the whole tech stuff.

Dario
(Glad to be there when Schumacher scored the new record of Imola circuit)

- Original Message -
From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 10:11 PM
Subject: *ist D  Formula 1 tests


 Here is a selection of *ist D pictures I took yesterday:

 http://www.dariobonazza.com/f1_04e.htm

 Dario Bonazza




RE: *ist D Formula 1 tests

2004-02-26 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography

GREAT shots Dario, not too sure about the music though!  Kinda gave me a
headache after a while, although are you trying to tease us by saying Wish
you were here? vbg

tan.

-Original Message-
From: Dario Bonazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 27 February 2004 7:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: *ist D  Formula 1 tests


Here is a selection of *ist D pictures I took yesterday:

http://www.dariobonazza.com/f1_04e.htm

Dario Bonazza





Re: *ist D Formula 1 tests

2004-02-26 Thread Mat Maessen
Dario Bonazza wrote:
Here is a selection of *ist D pictures I took yesterday:

http://www.dariobonazza.com/f1_04e.htm


*DROL*

Beautiul pictures, and my first good look at the new Ferrari aero 
package for this year.

Wonder if I can get up to Montreal in June...

-Mat



Re: *ist D Formula 1 tests

2004-02-26 Thread Stan Halpin
Very fine work Dario! Thank you.

Stan

Dario Bonazza wrote:

Here is a selection of *ist D pictures I took yesterday:

http://www.dariobonazza.com/f1_04e.htm

Dario Bonazza





Re: *ist D Formula 1 tests

2004-02-26 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Mat Maessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dario Bonazza wrote:
  Here is a selection of *ist D pictures I took yesterday:
  
  http://www.dariobonazza.com/f1_04e.htm


excellent stuff, my fave by a country mile is this one
http://www.dariobonazza.com/f1_04/12panis.jpg

What lens/shutter speed are you using here?

Kind regards
Kevin

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Re: *ist D Formula 1 tests

2004-02-26 Thread Peter J. Alling
IrfanView www.irfanview.com is a nice little utility which has an exif 
viewer built in.  It's free and I have
no connection to the author.  If you like it you can always send him a 
donation.

David Madsen wrote:

I have not ordered my istD yet and am very new to Exif, how can one retrieve
the info once the image is on the computer, as opposed to on the camera?
David Madsen
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http://www.davidmadsen.com
-Original Message-
From: Dario Bonazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 2:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: *ist D  Formula 1 tests
I forgot to write that many pictures were taken at higher ISO settings
(800), with very good color rendition and no visible noise. However, the
Exif will tell you the whole tech stuff.
Dario
(Glad to be there when Schumacher scored the new record of Imola circuit)
- Original Message -
From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 10:11 PM
Subject: *ist D  Formula 1 tests
 

Here is a selection of *ist D pictures I took yesterday:

http://www.dariobonazza.com/f1_04e.htm

Dario Bonazza

   



 





Re: *ist D Formula 1 tests

2004-02-26 Thread John Francis
 
 Here is a selection of *ist D pictures I took yesterday:
 
 http://www.dariobonazza.com/f1_04e.htm
 
 Dario Bonazza
 

Dario - I'm forwarding this mail to my photo editor; he might
want to put your images up on our site (if that's OK with you).

Eric - here's a shot of the 2004 Ferrari, amongst other things.