Re: [OT] Nikon's D200 is coming...
On 10/27/05, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh my GOD! NOT KEN ROCKWELL, AIEEEeee. ARRGHH -FRANK -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: [OT] Nikon's D200 is coming...
On 27 Oct 2005 at 8:16, Mark Roberts wrote: > From what I head from my sensor guys at Kodak in August, it's CCD > production that's holding up the camera. Early 2006 was suggested for > when Kodak would be turning them out... I assume we are talking about the sensor slated for use in the D645. So once they have production models I guess they can start tuning the circuitry and software to match the actual sensor noise/gain, colour performance etc. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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"Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 26 Oct 2005 at 18:32, DagT wrote: >> Den 26. okt. 2005 kl. 15.38 skrev Sylwester Pietrzyk: >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 26.10.05 15:34: >> > >> >> Some Nikonians are already complaining about the small finder >> >> >> > And they haven't seen that in reality yet ;-) >> >> Which reminds me of some discussions here regarding the 645D and >> other upcoming models... > >Har, at least they have a pre-production model, they aren't asking the public >to choose between three mock-ups. >From what I head from my sensor guys at Kodak in August, it's CCD production that's holding up the camera. Early 2006 was suggested for when Kodak would be turning them out... -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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On Wednesday, October 26, 2005, at 09:22 PM, Adam Maas wrote: That's just more of Rockwell's blathering. He's merely pointing out the obvious (no D200 in stores today) and making it seem like a revelation. -Adam I often wonder why anyone reads his blather. Bob
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On Wednesday, October 26, 2005, at 09:02 PM, Anand DHUPKAR wrote: Other thing that led me to doubt is the article on following link which says THERE IS NO D200 YET http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d200.htm Not a particularly reliable source for info, IMHO. Bob
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On Wednesday, October 26, 2005, at 08:38 PM, Anand DHUPKAR wrote: what is the source of this news ? Is it Official ? I am curious - Look at the bottom of the page. Those photos were all taken from Nikon's official UK web site. Bob
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Oh my GOD! NOT KEN ROCKWELL, AIEEEeee. Anand DHUPKAR wrote: Yes, I read about that as well. For some reason, however, I can't go to that place. I can go to http://www.nikon.co.uk/press_room/. However, can't go to download after that and can't see download anywhere on that page. Other thing that led me to doubt is the article on following link which says THERE IS NO D200 YET http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d200.htm --- Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 26 Oct 2005 at 17:38, Anand DHUPKAR wrote: what is the source of this news ? Is it Official ? I am curious - All the images were sourced from the http://www.nikon.co.uk/press_room/downloads/ Not Nikon Japan but not too unofficial either. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: [OT] Nikon's D200 is coming...
That's just more of Rockwell's blathering. He's merely pointing out the obvious (no D200 in stores today) and making it seem like a revelation. -Adam Anand DHUPKAR wrote: Yes, I read about that as well. For some reason, however, I can't go to that place. I can go to http://www.nikon.co.uk/press_room/. However, can't go to download after that and can't see download anywhere on that page. Other thing that led me to doubt is the article on following link which says THERE IS NO D200 YET http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d200.htm --- Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 26 Oct 2005 at 17:38, Anand DHUPKAR wrote: what is the source of this news ? Is it Official ? I am curious - All the images were sourced from the http://www.nikon.co.uk/press_room/downloads/ Not Nikon Japan but not too unofficial either. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
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On 26 Oct 2005 at 18:02, Anand DHUPKAR wrote: > Yes, I read about that as well. > For some reason, however, I can't go to that place. > I can go to http://www.nikon.co.uk/press_room/. > However, can't go to download after that and can't see > download anywhere on that page. > > Other thing that led me to doubt is the article on > following link which says THERE IS NO D200 YET > > http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d200.htm Yes, it's pre-official release, the images however were neglectfully made available to the public though bad web page management I'd guess. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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Yes, I read about that as well. For some reason, however, I can't go to that place. I can go to http://www.nikon.co.uk/press_room/. However, can't go to download after that and can't see download anywhere on that page. Other thing that led me to doubt is the article on following link which says THERE IS NO D200 YET http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d200.htm --- Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 26 Oct 2005 at 17:38, Anand DHUPKAR wrote: > > > what is the source of this news ? > > Is it Official ? > > I am curious - > > All the images were sourced from the > http://www.nikon.co.uk/press_room/downloads/ > Not Nikon Japan but not too unofficial either. > > > Rob Studdert > HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA > Tel +61-2-9554-4110 > UTC(GMT) +10 Hours > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ > Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 > > __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
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On 26 Oct 2005 at 17:38, Anand DHUPKAR wrote: > what is the source of this news ? > Is it Official ? > I am curious - All the images were sourced from the http://www.nikon.co.uk/press_room/downloads/ Not Nikon Japan but not too unofficial either. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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what is the source of this news ? Is it Official ? I am curious - --- Sylwester Pietrzyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some nice Nikon stuff news just before its official > annoucement on 1 > november ;-) It is supposed to have 10.5 MPix, 5,5 > fps. APS-C but at price > level (around 1500-200$) that will easy outsell 5D > 5:1 > http://newnikond200images.blogspot.com/ > I wish Pentax had something similar as an istD > successor ready soon... :-( > > -- > Balance is the ultimate good... > > Best Regards > Sylwek > > __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
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On 26 Oct 2005 at 18:32, DagT wrote: > Den 26. okt. 2005 kl. 15.38 skrev Sylwester Pietrzyk: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 26.10.05 15:34: > > > > > >> Some Nikonians are already complaining about the small finder > >> > > And they haven't seen that in reality yet ;-) > > Which reminds me of some discussions here regarding the 645D and > other upcoming models... Har, at least they have a pre-production model, they aren't asking the public to choose between three mock-ups. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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On 26/10/05, Sylwester Pietrzyk, discombobulated, unleashed: >Sorry that's probably because I was still thinking "the ring is >mine" :-))) MY PRESHHU Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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On 2005-10-26, at 22:24, Christian wrote: Apples and oranges... The D200 is competition for the current 20D (APS-C; 5fps, 8mp) and whatever succeeds it and whatever succeeds the *ist D. Just as the D100 was competition for the 10D and *ist D. The 5D right now is in a class by itself You're right. However comparisons will be inevitable ;-) And Nikon seems to be higher class camera in other than sensor areas (it has CAM 2000 - the best AF around, weather sealings and so on...) It's pretty much what I expect Pentax to produce. eventually. maybe. We'll see - fairies say "next year" ;-) -- Best regards Sylwek
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On 2005-10-26, at 18:30, Cotty wrote: I have the MR 14 ring flash, not the twin light. Sorry that's probably because I was still thinking "the ring is mine" :-))) -- Best regards Sylwek
Re: [OT] Nikon's D200 is coming...
- Original Message - From: "Sylwester Pietrzyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Some nice Nikon stuff news just before its official annoucement on 1 november ;-) It is supposed to have 10.5 MPix, 5,5 fps. APS-C but at price level (around 1500-200$) that will easy outsell 5D 5:1 Apples and oranges... The D200 is competition for the current 20D (APS-C; 5fps, 8mp) and whatever succeeds it and whatever succeeds the *ist D. Just as the D100 was competition for the 10D and *ist D. The 5D right now is in a class by itself I wish Pentax had something similar as an istD successor ready soon... :-( It's pretty much what I expect Pentax to produce. eventually. maybe. Christian
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- Original Message - From: "DagT" Subject: Re: [OT] Nikon's D200 is coming... Some Nikonians are already complaining about the small finder And they haven't seen that in reality yet ;-) Which reminds me of some discussions here regarding the 645D and other upcoming models... .-) The discussions around the 645D have been regarding the viability of the product, which is certainly a valid concern. I don't agree with the logic you have devoted to drawing your parallel. William Robb
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Den 26. okt. 2005 kl. 15.38 skrev Sylwester Pietrzyk: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 26.10.05 15:34: Some Nikonians are already complaining about the small finder And they haven't seen that in reality yet ;-) Which reminds me of some discussions here regarding the 645D and other upcoming models... .-) DagT
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On 26/10/05, Sylwester Pietrzyk, discombobulated, unleashed: >Yes, they have - MR-24EX (or something), but indeed it is wired. AFAIR Cotty >has & uses it? I have the MR 14 ring flash, not the twin light. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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Kenneth Waller wrote on 26.10.05 17:33: > Canon has something similar, but I not sure about the wireless part. Yes, they have - MR-24EX (or something), but indeed it is wired. AFAIR Cotty has & uses it? -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
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>CanoBTW - very interesting Nikon's macro twin flash - it is not using cables at >all, just wireless flash with dedicated controller ;-) Canon has something similar, but I not sure about the wireless part. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Sylwester Pietrzyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [OT] Nikon's D200 is coming... Mark Roberts wrote on 26.10.05 15:33: > We'll have it next spring. How long have Nikon users have had to wait > for the D100 replacement? The D100 was announced more than 2-1/2 years > ago (Feb 2002). I'm not sure when it actually became available. D100 review on dpreview.com appeared on 7/26/2002 and it was production sample, so Nikon users had to wait for over 3 years till premiere of D200. *istD appeared first on PMA 2003, just we had to wait until september to be able to buy it. So *istD successor will be rather shown in fall 2006 - very likely on Photokina. But of course we can't apply the same rules to different products and companies ;-) Maybe we will see then annoucement on PMA 2006??? BTW - very interesting Nikon's macro twin flash - it is not using cables at all, just wireless flash with dedicated controller ;-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 26.10.05 15:34: > Some Nikonians are already complaining about the small finder And they haven't seen that in reality yet ;-) Their complaining is based on D200 photos, because it has rectangular not round viewfinder eyepiece like on Nikon's top cameras. Of course it has nothing to do with viewfinder size... -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
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Mark Roberts wrote on 26.10.05 15:33: > We'll have it next spring. How long have Nikon users have had to wait > for the D100 replacement? The D100 was announced more than 2-1/2 years > ago (Feb 2002). I'm not sure when it actually became available. D100 review on dpreview.com appeared on 7/26/2002 and it was production sample, so Nikon users had to wait for over 3 years till premiere of D200. *istD appeared first on PMA 2003, just we had to wait until september to be able to buy it. So *istD successor will be rather shown in fall 2006 - very likely on Photokina. But of course we can't apply the same rules to different products and companies ;-) Maybe we will see then annoucement on PMA 2006??? BTW - very interesting Nikon's macro twin flash - it is not using cables at all, just wireless flash with dedicated controller ;-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
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Some Nikonians are already complaining about the small finder DagT > fra: Sylwester Pietrzyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Some nice Nikon stuff news just before its official annoucement on 1 > november ;-) It is supposed to have 10.5 MPix, 5,5 fps. APS-C but at price > level (around 1500-200$) that will easy outsell 5D 5:1 > http://newnikond200images.blogspot.com/ > I wish Pentax had something similar as an istD successor ready soon... :-( > > -- > Balance is the ultimate good... > > Best Regards > Sylwek > >
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Sylwester Pietrzyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Some nice Nikon stuff news just before its official annoucement on 1 >november ;-) It is supposed to have 10.5 MPix, 5,5 fps. APS-C but at price >level (around 1500-200$) that will easy outsell 5D 5:1 >http://newnikond200images.blogspot.com/ >I wish Pentax had something similar as an istD successor ready soon... :-( We'll have it next spring. How long have Nikon users have had to wait for the D100 replacement? The D100 was announced more than 2-1/2 years ago (Feb 2002). I'm not sure when it actually became available. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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Dario Bonazza wrote on 26.10.05 14:23: > I think Herb was meaning between Nikon D100 and Pentax *istD. I think Dario you're right ;-) So let's keep our fingers crossed for Pentax! -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
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I think Herb was meaning between Nikon D100 and Pentax *istD. Dario - Original Message - From: "Sylwester Pietrzyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Nikon's D200 is coming... Herb Chong wrote on 26.10.05 13:35: if past is any guide, next fall is the earliest. It depends. There wasn't great difference between D2H premiere and its availability in shops. D2X is however different story though... -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
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Herb Chong wrote on 26.10.05 13:35: > if past is any guide, next fall is the earliest. It depends. There wasn't great difference between D2H premiere and its availability in shops. D2X is however different story though... -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
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if past is any guide, next fall is the earliest. Herb - Original Message - From: "Sylwester Pietrzyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 7:02 AM Subject: [OT] Nikon's D200 is coming... Some nice Nikon stuff news just before its official annoucement on 1 november ;-) It is supposed to have 10.5 MPix, 5,5 fps. APS-C but at price level (around 1500-200$) that will easy outsell 5D 5:1 http://newnikond200images.blogspot.com/ I wish Pentax had something similar as an istD successor ready soon... :-(
[OT] Nikon's D200 is coming...
Some nice Nikon stuff news just before its official annoucement on 1 november ;-) It is supposed to have 10.5 MPix, 5,5 fps. APS-C but at price level (around 1500-200$) that will easy outsell 5D 5:1 http://newnikond200images.blogspot.com/ I wish Pentax had something similar as an istD successor ready soon... :-( -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
