A TRAGIC, TRAGIC day....Even on photim.com

2001-03-23 Thread Pentax Clover

Hello
Everybody on Photim's forum share your pain You can read the comments by
following the link
http://www.photim.net/nci/discu.php3?code=20010323022512clover
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From: "Tanya  Russell Mayer" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Pentax Discussion List" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: jeudi 22 mars 2001 14:30
Subject: A TRAGIC, TRAGIC day


 Hello all,

 I apologise for my tardiness in keeping up with all of your wonderful
 replies - all I can do is blame it on the fact that today was shopping day
 and I had to screaming kids begging me to take them to Macca's for "happy
 meals".

 However, I digress, and as such I must now revert back to the tragedy of
 today.  Actually, multiple tragedies really, so here goes

 So we went to M'Donalds - just me and my two toddlers.  Had a nice lunch
and
 decided to go up to our local tourist lookout for a walk.  Being a nice
day,
 naturally, I chose to take with me my trusty third baby (my other two are
 human), my PZ-1P.  Warning, the following may be distressing for some
 readers, and especially the author  We got to the top and it was almost
 sunset, so I thought, hey, why don't I set up my tripod and take some
 selfportraits of myself and my boys with the sunset behind us.  Hmmm, so
far
 so good.  Tripod set up, cable release set up, smile, snap! smile, snap! a
 couple of nice pics for sure.  Of course after two photos, my almost three
 year old (my oldest), decided to make a bolt for it categorically stating
 that he wanted to "play in park, no more pottos mum".  With that, he
bolted
 down the path of the lookout.  Me being a normal, concerned mum, tried to
 grab him for fear of him falling over the 50ft cliff on the other side of
 the walkway, whilst trying to hold my other baby (aged 16 months) and
 untangle myself from my cable release at the same time.  I am almost too
 upset to even type this, but, alas, I shall continue, if not to console
 myself, then to at least make somebody out there feel some morsel of pity
 for me!  The following moments were like one of those slow motion scenes
out
 of a movie where all the sound gets blurred and somebody yells out
 "nooo" whilst trying fruitlessly to prevent a tragedy from happening.
 Well, today, I was that somebody and my tragedy did happen.  Lets just say
 that my Pz-1p, complete with sigma 28-80 macro zoom, pentax cable release,
 achiever 630af flash and (crappy) vanguard tripod, all went a tumbling
 straight over the cliff face.  About 10 seconds and 50ft later, I opened
up
 my eyes (after all of the crashing and smashing sounds had stopped) to
find
 debris scattered down the cliff face at a huge variety of intervals.  I am
 so devastated, that camera was indeed my baby.  I can't buy anything else
 this year (except maybe something pretty cheap and nasty), as we are
 building a house and I start Uni next year which will be expensive, so
now,
 I am stuck with nothing but an MZ-50.  (Despite my previous claims that I
 have a Pt-30, I was actually exagerrating a little in the assumption that
I
 would win an auction that I was bidding for it on.  In a wonderful climax
to
 my day, I arrived home to find that I had been outbidded, and the auction
 had ended while I was trying to climb down the cliff and rescue my little
 black pieces of metal and glass that were once a very expensive camera.)!
I
 am in a severe state of shock and mourning, I sure hope some of you guys
 have some miraculous words of comfortBTW, I had only had the PZ-1p
since
 Christmas, after I saved for two months to buy the thing!  So, can anybody
 hazard a guess at which item (apart from the cable release which didn't
have
 a scratch on it) survived this travesty?  The crappy Achiever Flash, of
 course!  I must have done something really bad in a past life to deserve
 such torture..I will never again enjoy a "happy" meal..
 :-(
 Tanya.


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Subject: A TRAGIC, TRAGIC day....Even on photim.com

2001-03-23 Thread Tanya Russell Mayer

Hey, does anybody here speak French?

:-)

Tanya.

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Subject: A TRAGIC, TRAGIC day....Even on photim.com

2001-03-23 Thread Tanya Russell Mayer

Clover,

It took me a while, but I finally found an online translation site (my
French is very basic).  Please pass on my thanks to those who responded - I
think I got the general idea!  Take this as a warning to all though - never
mix your passion with your kids!! (Unless you have somebody else there to
look after the kids!)

:-)

Tanya.

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Re: A TRAGIC, TRAGIC day....

2001-03-23 Thread RK

Hi Tanya,
Don't know if you'd appreciate any more posts on this (very painful, I'm
sure)
subject but here's my two cents:
About four years' ago, I was a struggling architect (still am but the
struggle
gets a little easier now :-) and I'd managed to save up enough to buy a
(new)
Olympus OM4Ti. This was priced around $1100.00 (without customs and
other
duties) if I recall correctly. When I finally got it after a year, I was
delighted- no, that's not the right word- overwhelmed would be closer, I
think.
Three weeks later, my cousin drops in, begs me to lend him my camera for
a short
business trip (2 days) to Australia. So I lend him the OM4Ti. Yeah, I
know, bad
move.
Two days on, I learn he's been mugged- beaten up pretty badly and the
camera is
gone.
That was it: I couldn't bear to see my collection of OM lenses anymore-
I just
locked up everything and didn't open that cupboard for a couple of
years.
That was also it for Olympus- I switched to Pentax as it seemed the
closest in
spirit to all I had admired in Olympus.
What happened to the cousin? When he could speak through his wired jaw,
he
mumbled something about about fate and then hastily vanished. Get a card
from
him sometimes- no, he doesn't mention cameras anymore!

Three years ago, I began saving again and got a (new) MZ5 and then
slowly, a new
series of Pentax mount lenses. I later picked up a PZ1p.
Have to admit, the pain of losing that brand new camera was incredible.
Still
gives me a twinge sometimes. Might add that I'm from India- here you
don't just
go to a camera store; you first find a reliable importer, order, wait
for months
and then pay incredible duties (upto 75%) on the basic prices. Kinda
makes you appreciate
the camera a lot more when it finally arrives :-)
All the best for the new camera.
RK

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A TRAGIC, TRAGIC day....

2001-03-22 Thread Tanya Russell Mayer

Hello all,

I apologise for my tardiness in keeping up with all of your wonderful
replies - all I can do is blame it on the fact that today was shopping day
and I had to screaming kids begging me to take them to Macca's for "happy
meals".

However, I digress, and as such I must now revert back to the tragedy of
today.  Actually, multiple tragedies really, so here goes

So we went to M'Donalds - just me and my two toddlers.  Had a nice lunch and
decided to go up to our local tourist lookout for a walk.  Being a nice day,
naturally, I chose to take with me my trusty third baby (my other two are
human), my PZ-1P.  Warning, the following may be distressing for some
readers, and especially the author  We got to the top and it was almost
sunset, so I thought, hey, why don't I set up my tripod and take some
selfportraits of myself and my boys with the sunset behind us.  Hmmm, so far
so good.  Tripod set up, cable release set up, smile, snap! smile, snap! a
couple of nice pics for sure.  Of course after two photos, my almost three
year old (my oldest), decided to make a bolt for it categorically stating
that he wanted to "play in park, no more pottos mum".  With that, he bolted
down the path of the lookout.  Me being a normal, concerned mum, tried to
grab him for fear of him falling over the 50ft cliff on the other side of
the walkway, whilst trying to hold my other baby (aged 16 months) and
untangle myself from my cable release at the same time.  I am almost too
upset to even type this, but, alas, I shall continue, if not to console
myself, then to at least make somebody out there feel some morsel of pity
for me!  The following moments were like one of those slow motion scenes out
of a movie where all the sound gets blurred and somebody yells out
"nooo" whilst trying fruitlessly to prevent a tragedy from happening.
Well, today, I was that somebody and my tragedy did happen.  Lets just say
that my Pz-1p, complete with sigma 28-80 macro zoom, pentax cable release,
achiever 630af flash and (crappy) vanguard tripod, all went a tumbling
straight over the cliff face.  About 10 seconds and 50ft later, I opened up
my eyes (after all of the crashing and smashing sounds had stopped) to find
debris scattered down the cliff face at a huge variety of intervals.  I am
so devastated, that camera was indeed my baby.  I can't buy anything else
this year (except maybe something pretty cheap and nasty), as we are
building a house and I start Uni next year which will be expensive, so now,
I am stuck with nothing but an MZ-50.  (Despite my previous claims that I
have a Pt-30, I was actually exagerrating a little in the assumption that I
would win an auction that I was bidding for it on.  In a wonderful climax to
my day, I arrived home to find that I had been outbidded, and the auction
had ended while I was trying to climb down the cliff and rescue my little
black pieces of metal and glass that were once a very expensive camera.)!  I
am in a severe state of shock and mourning, I sure hope some of you guys
have some miraculous words of comfortBTW, I had only had the PZ-1p since
Christmas, after I saved for two months to buy the thing!  So, can anybody
hazard a guess at which item (apart from the cable release which didn't have
a scratch on it) survived this travesty?  The crappy Achiever Flash, of
course!  I must have done something really bad in a past life to deserve
such torture..I will never again enjoy a "happy" meal..
:-(
Tanya.


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Re: A TRAGIC, TRAGIC day....

2001-03-22 Thread Chris Brogden


Ah, what a day.  Maybe it's time for Bill to tell the story (complete with
pics) of the tragic incident involving his Pentax 67.  And you thought
*you* had it bad.  :)

chris


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RE: A TRAGIC, TRAGIC day....

2001-03-22 Thread PAUL STENQUIST

Sorry to hear about your tragedy. But your concern for your child was the correct 
response. It's unfortunate that you lost the camera, but you did the right thing. 
Perhaps you can figure out a way to generate a few extra dollars so that you can 
replace the camera and lens as soon as possible. You can still do some good work with 
your other camera. Perhaps some portraits of neighborhood children. Or you might 
inquire at local real-estate agencies to see if they have a need for house photos. I 
once made quite a bit of extra cash shooting the for-sale houses. Good luck.
Paul

--Original Message--
From: "Tanya  Russell Mayer" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 22, 2001 1:30:11 PM GMT
Subject: A TRAGIC, TRAGIC day


Hello all,

I apologise for my tardiness in keeping up with all of your wonderful
replies - all I can do is blame it on the fact that today was shopping day
and I had to screaming kids begging me to take them to Macca's for "happy
meals".

However, I digress, and as such I must now revert back to the tragedy of
today.  Actually, multiple tragedies really, so here goes

So we went to M'Donalds - just me and my two toddlers.  Had a nice lunch and
decided to go up to our local tourist lookout for a walk.  Being a nice day,
naturally, I chose to take with me my trusty third baby (my other two are
human), my PZ-1P.  Warning, the following may be distressing for some
readers, and especially the author  We got to the top and it was almost
sunset, so I thought, hey, why don't I set up my tripod and take some
selfportraits of myself and my boys with the sunset behind us.  Hmmm, so far
so good.  Tripod set up, cable release set up, smile, snap! smile, snap! a
couple of nice pics for sure.  Of course after two photos, my almost three
year old (my oldest), decided to make a bolt for it categorically stating
that he wanted to "play in park, no more pottos mum".  With that, he bolted
down the path of the lookout.  Me being a normal, concerned mum, tried to
grab him for fear of him falling over the 50ft cliff on the other side of
the walkway, whilst trying to hold my other baby (aged 16 months) and
untangle myself from my cable release at the same time.  I am almost too
upset to even type this, but, alas, I shall continue, if not to console
myself, then to at least make somebody out there feel some morsel of pity
for me!  The following moments were like one of those slow motion scenes out
of a movie where all the sound gets blurred and somebody yells out
"nooo" whilst trying fruitlessly to prevent a tragedy from happening.
Well, today, I was that somebody and my tragedy did happen.  Lets just say
that my Pz-1p, complete with sigma 28-80 macro zoom, pentax cable release,
achiever 630af flash and (crappy) vanguard tripod, all went a tumbling
straight over the cliff face.  About 10 seconds and 50ft later, I opened up
my eyes (after all of the crashing and smashing sounds had stopped) to find
debris scattered down the cliff face at a huge variety of intervals.  I am
so devastated, that camera was indeed my baby.  I can't buy anything else
this year (except maybe something pretty cheap and nasty), as we are
building a house and I start Uni next year which will be expensive, so now,
I am stuck with nothing but an MZ-50.  (Despite my previous claims that I
have a Pt-30, I was actually exagerrating a little in the assumption that I
would win an auction that I was bidding for it on.  In a wonderful climax to
my day, I arrived home to find that I had been outbidded, and the auction
had ended while I was trying to climb down the cliff and rescue my little
black pieces of metal and glass that were once a very expensive camera.)!  I
am in a severe state of shock and mourning, I sure hope some of you guys
have some miraculous words of comfortBTW, I had only had the PZ-1p since
Christmas, after I saved for two months to buy the thing!  So, can anybody
hazard a guess at which item (apart from the cable release which didn't have
a scratch on it) survived this travesty?  The crappy Achiever Flash, of
course!  I must have done something really bad in a past life to deserve
such torture..I will never again enjoy a "happy" meal..
:-(
Tanya.


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re: A TRAGIC, TRAGIC day....

2001-03-22 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

Tanya,

Check your homeowner's insurance policy.
Might be worth the effort.

Collin

From: Tanya  Russell Mayer
Subject: A TRAGIC, TRAGIC day
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 05:26:27 -0800

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RE: A TRAGIC, TRAGIC day....

2001-03-22 Thread Peter Smith



I sympathise Tanya it must hurt - but look on the bright side - the two
irreplaceable babies are safe.  One day you will replace the third. How's
your insurance?

Peter

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Re: A TRAGIC, TRAGIC day....

2001-03-22 Thread Takehiko Ueda

Hi Tanya,

You can buy another body, but not another baby!  Sorry for
your loss of beloved camera, but as many have said,
insurance might cover the damage.

What you did was the right choice I think.  You can also
think this is the chance for you to get yourself an
LX...s

Sincerely,


Take Ueda, Osaka, Japan
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Re: A TRAGIC, TRAGIC day....

2001-03-22 Thread aimcompute

My goodness Tanya.  I can't stop crying... I've banged mine hard on the
kitchen counter once while holding it in my hand and I've had it roll off
the car seat to the floor of the car while braking too hard, but nothing
like this.  I feel your pain.

Comfort comes in the fact that you cared most about was most precious and
the only tragedy was an inanimate object(s).

It might do the rest of us some good if you could take some shots of the
pieces you recovered.  I'm quite curious what a PZ-1p/lens looks like after
a 50 ft drop.

OT:  Possible wives-tale.  My wife was telling me last weekend that one her
girlfriend's aways back husband was a beef buyer and would travel the
country to cattle auctions.  The term "cancer-beef" apparently applied to
cattle that  had tumors and were otherwise "unprime".  Apparently, according
to the story, McDonalds was consistently the buyer of this kind of livestock
and always bought it up quickly.

Tom C.



- Original Message -
From: "Tanya  Russell Mayer" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Pentax Discussion List" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 6:30 AM
Subject: A TRAGIC, TRAGIC day


 Hello all,

 I apologise for my tardiness in keeping up with all of your wonderful
 replies - all I can do is blame it on the fact that today was shopping day
 and I had to screaming kids begging me to take them to Macca's for "happy
 meals".

 However, I digress, and as such I must now revert back to the tragedy of
 today.  Actually, multiple tragedies really, so here goes

 So we went to M'Donalds - just me and my two toddlers.  Had a nice lunch
and
 decided to go up to our local tourist lookout for a walk.  Being a nice
day,
 naturally, I chose to take with me my trusty third baby (my other two are
 human), my PZ-1P.  Warning, the following may be distressing for some
 readers, and especially the author  We got to the top and it was almost
 sunset, so I thought, hey, why don't I set up my tripod and take some
 selfportraits of myself and my boys with the sunset behind us.  Hmmm, so
far
 so good.  Tripod set up, cable release set up, smile, snap! smile, snap! a
 couple of nice pics for sure.  Of course after two photos, my almost three
 year old (my oldest), decided to make a bolt for it categorically stating
 that he wanted to "play in park, no more pottos mum".  With that, he
bolted
 down the path of the lookout.  Me being a normal, concerned mum, tried to
 grab him for fear of him falling over the 50ft cliff on the other side of
 the walkway, whilst trying to hold my other baby (aged 16 months) and
 untangle myself from my cable release at the same time.  I am almost too
 upset to even type this, but, alas, I shall continue, if not to console
 myself, then to at least make somebody out there feel some morsel of pity
 for me!  The following moments were like one of those slow motion scenes
out
 of a movie where all the sound gets blurred and somebody yells out
 "nooo" whilst trying fruitlessly to prevent a tragedy from happening.
 Well, today, I was that somebody and my tragedy did happen.  Lets just say
 that my Pz-1p, complete with sigma 28-80 macro zoom, pentax cable release,
 achiever 630af flash and (crappy) vanguard tripod, all went a tumbling
 straight over the cliff face.  About 10 seconds and 50ft later, I opened
up
 my eyes (after all of the crashing and smashing sounds had stopped) to
find
 debris scattered down the cliff face at a huge variety of intervals.  I am
 so devastated, that camera was indeed my baby.  I can't buy anything else
 this year (except maybe something pretty cheap and nasty), as we are
 building a house and I start Uni next year which will be expensive, so
now,
 I am stuck with nothing but an MZ-50.  (Despite my previous claims that I
 have a Pt-30, I was actually exagerrating a little in the assumption that
I
 would win an auction that I was bidding for it on.  In a wonderful climax
to
 my day, I arrived home to find that I had been outbidded, and the auction
 had ended while I was trying to climb down the cliff and rescue my little
 black pieces of metal and glass that were once a very expensive camera.)!
I
 am in a severe state of shock and mourning, I sure hope some of you guys
 have some miraculous words of comfortBTW, I had only had the PZ-1p
since
 Christmas, after I saved for two months to buy the thing!  So, can anybody
 hazard a guess at which item (apart from the cable release which didn't
have
 a scratch on it) survived this travesty?  The crappy Achiever Flash, of
 course!  I must have done something really bad in a past life to deserve
 such torture..I will never again enjoy a "happy" meal..
 :-(
 Tanya.


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Re: A TRAGIC, TRAGIC day....

2001-03-22 Thread John Mustarde

On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:30:11 +1000, you wrote:

However, I digress, and as such I must now revert back to the tragedy of
today.  Actually, multiple tragedies really, so here goes

So sad. 

I once had a PZ1p and A* 200/4 Macro take a rolling dive off a park
bench onto the concrete. But your loss is worse - my camera and lens
were both insured and repairable.
-- 
Happy Trails,
Texdance
http://members.fortunecity.com/texdance
http://members1.clubphoto.com/john8202
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re: A TRAGIC, TRAGIC day....

2001-03-22 Thread Brewer, Doug

Sorry you lost your PZ-1p, Tanya, but at least you kept your boys safe.

It's very easy to fall into mourning over days like that, and a certain
amount of that is healthy, but I think it's much more important to take
something positive away from it. Use it as a learning opportunity. 

I've said it here before, but it's worth repeating: I used to shoot
eight-ball with a friend who, when I would express some disgust over blowing
a shot, would always ask, "But did you learn?" It was half in jest, I know,
but it's something I've carried with me for many years, because it can be
applied to any mishap, mistake or other bad experience.

So, Tanya, I have to ask: But did you learn?

Doug
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Re: A TRAGIC, TRAGIC day....

2001-03-22 Thread Cy Galley

You repeating a probably slanderous statement without checking to see if it
is true is very disappointing.  This is especially true as it is COMPLETE
OFF TOPIC!  What does McDonald's purchases have to do with Pentax??? Do you
have a grudge against the Corp?

An angry stockholder who is forwarding your comments to The McDonald's Corp.


- Original Message -
From: "aimcompute" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: A TRAGIC, TRAGIC day


 My goodness Tanya.  I can't stop crying... I've banged mine hard on the
 kitchen counter once while holding it in my hand and I've had it roll off
 the car seat to the floor of the car while braking too hard, but nothing
 like this.  I feel your pain.

 Comfort comes in the fact that you cared most about was most precious and
 the only tragedy was an inanimate object(s).

 It might do the rest of us some good if you could take some shots of the
 pieces you recovered.  I'm quite curious what a PZ-1p/lens looks like
after
 a 50 ft drop.

 OT:  Possible wives-tale.  My wife was telling me last weekend that one
her
 girlfriend's aways back husband was a beef buyer and would travel the
 country to cattle auctions.  The term "cancer-beef" apparently applied to
 cattle that  had tumors and were otherwise "unprime".  Apparently,
according
 to the story, McDonalds was consistently the buyer of this kind of
livestock
 and always bought it up quickly.

 Tom C.



 - Original Message -
 From: "Tanya  Russell Mayer" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Pentax Discussion List" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 6:30 AM
 Subject: A TRAGIC, TRAGIC day


  Hello all,
 
  I apologise for my tardiness in keeping up with all of your wonderful
  replies - all I can do is blame it on the fact that today was shopping
day
  and I had to screaming kids begging me to take them to Macca's for
"happy
  meals".
 
  However, I digress, and as such I must now revert back to the tragedy of
  today.  Actually, multiple tragedies really, so here goes
 
  So we went to M'Donalds - just me and my two toddlers.  Had a nice lunch
 and
  decided to go up to our local tourist lookout for a walk.  Being a nice
 day,
  naturally, I chose to take with me my trusty third baby (my other two
are
  human), my PZ-1P.  Warning, the following may be distressing for some
  readers, and especially the author  We got to the top and it was almost
  sunset, so I thought, hey, why don't I set up my tripod and take some
  selfportraits of myself and my boys with the sunset behind us.  Hmmm, so
 far
  so good.  Tripod set up, cable release set up, smile, snap! smile, snap!
a
  couple of nice pics for sure.  Of course after two photos, my almost
three
  year old (my oldest), decided to make a bolt for it categorically
stating
  that he wanted to "play in park, no more pottos mum".  With that, he
 bolted
  down the path of the lookout.  Me being a normal, concerned mum, tried
to
  grab him for fear of him falling over the 50ft cliff on the other side
of
  the walkway, whilst trying to hold my other baby (aged 16 months) and
  untangle myself from my cable release at the same time.  I am almost too
  upset to even type this, but, alas, I shall continue, if not to console
  myself, then to at least make somebody out there feel some morsel of
pity
  for me!  The following moments were like one of those slow motion scenes
 out
  of a movie where all the sound gets blurred and somebody yells out
  "nooo" whilst trying fruitlessly to prevent a tragedy from
happening.
  Well, today, I was that somebody and my tragedy did happen.  Lets just
say
  that my Pz-1p, complete with sigma 28-80 macro zoom, pentax cable
release,
  achiever 630af flash and (crappy) vanguard tripod, all went a tumbling
  straight over the cliff face.  About 10 seconds and 50ft later, I opened
 up
  my eyes (after all of the crashing and smashing sounds had stopped) to
 find
  debris scattered down the cliff face at a huge variety of intervals.  I
am
  so devastated, that camera was indeed my baby.  I can't buy anything
else
  this year (except maybe something pretty cheap and nasty), as we are
  building a house and I start Uni next year which will be expensive, so
 now,
  I am stuck with nothing but an MZ-50.  (Despite my previous claims that
I
  have a Pt-30, I was actually exagerrating a little in the assumption
that
 I
  would win an auction that I was bidding for it on.  In a wonderful
climax
 to
  my day, I arrived home to find that I had been outbidded, and the
auction
  had ended while I was trying to climb down the cliff and rescue my
little
  black pieces of metal and glass that were once a very expensive
camera.)!
 I
  am in a severe state of shock and mourning, I sure hope some of you guys
  have some miraculous words of comfortBTW, I had only had the PZ-1p
 since
  Christmas, 

Re: A TRAGIC, TRAGIC day....

2001-03-22 Thread aimcompute

You make me laugh Cy!  You hold stock? HAHAHA! :-)

This is the kind of stuff that should be reserved for Friday!

And your right... I consider McD's to be one of the 20th century plagues...
right up there with Taco Bell.  Even though sometimes on trips I'll stop at
8PM and get 6 cheeseburgers that'll keep me awake driving until 2AM.

I'm sure it can't be good for me though.  What's the board's opinion on
this? :-)

Tom C.

- Original Message -
From: "Cy Galley" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: A TRAGIC, TRAGIC day


 You repeating a probably slanderous statement without checking to see if
it
 is true is very disappointing.  This is especially true as it is COMPLETE
 OFF TOPIC!  What does McDonald's purchases have to do with Pentax??? Do
you
 have a grudge against the Corp?

 An angry stockholder who is forwarding your comments to The McDonald's
Corp.


 - Original Message -
 From: "aimcompute" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 11:19 AM
 Subject: Re: A TRAGIC, TRAGIC day


  My goodness Tanya.  I can't stop crying... I've banged mine hard on the
  kitchen counter once while holding it in my hand and I've had it roll
off
  the car seat to the floor of the car while braking too hard, but nothing
  like this.  I feel your pain.
 
  Comfort comes in the fact that you cared most about was most precious
and
  the only tragedy was an inanimate object(s).
 
  It might do the rest of us some good if you could take some shots of the
  pieces you recovered.  I'm quite curious what a PZ-1p/lens looks like
 after
  a 50 ft drop.
 
  OT:  Possible wives-tale.  My wife was telling me last weekend that one
 her
  girlfriend's aways back husband was a beef buyer and would travel the
  country to cattle auctions.  The term "cancer-beef" apparently applied
to
  cattle that  had tumors and were otherwise "unprime".  Apparently,
 according
  to the story, McDonalds was consistently the buyer of this kind of
 livestock
  and always bought it up quickly.
 
  Tom C.
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "Tanya  Russell Mayer" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "Pentax Discussion List" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 6:30 AM
  Subject: A TRAGIC, TRAGIC day
 
 
   Hello all,
  
   I apologise for my tardiness in keeping up with all of your wonderful
   replies - all I can do is blame it on the fact that today was shopping
 day
   and I had to screaming kids begging me to take them to Macca's for
 "happy
   meals".
  
   However, I digress, and as such I must now revert back to the tragedy
of
   today.  Actually, multiple tragedies really, so here goes
  
   So we went to M'Donalds - just me and my two toddlers.  Had a nice
lunch
  and
   decided to go up to our local tourist lookout for a walk.  Being a
nice
  day,
   naturally, I chose to take with me my trusty third baby (my other two
 are
   human), my PZ-1P.  Warning, the following may be distressing for some
   readers, and especially the author  We got to the top and it was
almost
   sunset, so I thought, hey, why don't I set up my tripod and take some
   selfportraits of myself and my boys with the sunset behind us.  Hmmm,
so
  far
   so good.  Tripod set up, cable release set up, smile, snap! smile,
snap!
 a
   couple of nice pics for sure.  Of course after two photos, my almost
 three
   year old (my oldest), decided to make a bolt for it categorically
 stating
   that he wanted to "play in park, no more pottos mum".  With that, he
  bolted
   down the path of the lookout.  Me being a normal, concerned mum, tried
 to
   grab him for fear of him falling over the 50ft cliff on the other side
 of
   the walkway, whilst trying to hold my other baby (aged 16 months) and
   untangle myself from my cable release at the same time.  I am almost
too
   upset to even type this, but, alas, I shall continue, if not to
console
   myself, then to at least make somebody out there feel some morsel of
 pity
   for me!  The following moments were like one of those slow motion
scenes
  out
   of a movie where all the sound gets blurred and somebody yells out
   "nooo" whilst trying fruitlessly to prevent a tragedy from
 happening.
   Well, today, I was that somebody and my tragedy did happen.  Lets just
 say
   that my Pz-1p, complete with sigma 28-80 macro zoom, pentax cable
 release,
   achiever 630af flash and (crappy) vanguard tripod, all went a tumbling
   straight over the cliff face.  About 10 seconds and 50ft later, I
opened
  up
   my eyes (after all of the crashing and smashing sounds had stopped) to
  find
   debris scattered down the cliff face at a huge variety of intervals.
I
 am
   so devastated, that camera was indeed my baby.  I can't buy anything
 else
   this year (except maybe something pretty cheap and nasty), as we are
   b

Subject: A TRAGIC, TRAGIC day....

2001-03-22 Thread Tanya Russell Mayer

Paulo Ernest Wrote:

"Look at the bright side, at least your children are safe. Cameras can be
replaced eventually.

Speaking of which, the MZS is scheduled for release in a few months."

Yes, of course, my children are my main concern and they were both initially
quite distraught at seeing my reaction to what had happened, I had to make a
game out of it to stop them from crying and play "spot the debris", whereby
they pointed out where all the bits and pieces were as I picked them up.
They ended up having a grand 'ole time with a really nice little old lady
who sat with them to make sure that THEY didn't fall down the cliff-face.!
I am afraid the the MZ-S will be way out of my league in monetary terms,
however, I am hoping that its release will drive the price of the PZ-1p
down...

Tiger Moses wrote:

"Is the item covered under home owners insurance?
Did you buy with a credit card that may havve a extended warrantry and
disaster policy.  Remember the old commercials where the kids sticks the
dripping peanut butter and jelly sandwaich in the VCR slot?
Since the thing is less than 6 months old, you may be able to make a claim,
if you card has one of those, many platinum cards do!

My Zx-5n fell of my tripod the first time I used th etripod becuase I didn't
mount my quick release lock correctly!
Landed on the lens, saved the camera, lucky me!"

Unfortunately, no and no.  I discovered last year when my purse was stolen
out of my car containing a month of my husbands salary, that our home
contents insurance only covers items when they are actually IN the home.  I
was sure that there was a clause that allowed for items to be covered while
in the car and while travelling etc. but I was obviously wrong.  In regards
to the credit card thing, I paid cash for this one (gave me a better deal).
Wanna know how much it cost me? au$1900!  This is approximately US$850 and I
see now that they are going on Ebay for like US$400!  I could have bought
two for the price of my new ONE!  Unfortunately, now I am on "camera
equipment rations" until our new house is built and cannot even afford the
US$400 to buy a second-hand one, oh, well, i shall muddle along with my
MZ-50.

Paul Stenquist wrote:

"Sorry to hear about your tragedy. But your concern for your child was the
correct response. It's unfortunate that you lost the camera, but you did the
right thing. Perhaps you can figure out a way to generate a few extra
dollars so that you can replace the camera and lens as soon as possible. You
can still do some good work with your other camera. Perhaps some portraits
of neighborhood children. Or you might inquire at local real-estate agencies
to see if they have a need for house photos. I once made quite a bit of
extra cash shooting the for-sale houses. Good luck."

Thankyou for your suggestions Paul.  I was actually thinking of doing some
sort of cheesy setup at our local markets and charging willing parents small
amounts
for some cute shots of the kids while shopping at the markets.  I was
thinking of maybe combining it with face painting and shooting their faces
in all their technicolour.  Gotta put a bit more thought into it yet though.
I was also thinking of having my hubby wip up a few nice wooden frames and
decorating them and then framing some local landscapes and still lifes that
I have been doing of late.   I don't think that I have enough
knowledge/experience at this point to do the real estate agent thingy, but
it is a really good suggestion.  As I mentioned above, of course, my
children were my main priority and I thank the universe that they were OK.

Chris Brogden wrote:

"Ah, what a day.  Maybe it's time for Bill to tell the story (complete with
pics) of the tragic incident involving his Pentax 67.  And you thought
*you* had it bad.  :)"

I would love to hear and see this story, even if only to console myself a
little!  Bill, are you listening? ;-)

Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

"Check your homeowner's insurance policy.
Might be worth the effort."

Thanks Chris, see above response, re: contents insurance policy.

:-) Tanya.











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Re: A TRAGIC, TRAGIC day....

2001-03-22 Thread Tanya Russell Mayer

Ok, so I refuse to enter into any type of debate about the quality of
Mcdonalds beef!?!  Besides, we always eat the chicken nuggets! hehe.

However, to everyone else...

Peter, I discussed my insurance in my previous post, unfortunately, it
wasn't covered. However, my main priority of course always was and is my
human babies, and luckily, they are just fine.

Takehiko Ueda wrote

"What you did was the right choice I think.  You can also
think this is the chance for you to get yourself an
LX."

Well, I do see that there is a rather intensive battle going on here between
LX and non-LX users and these things do of course, happen for a reason, I
may look into it, however, there is an LX on auction on ebay at the moment
and with 4 days to go it has already hit the au$600 mark (out of my
league)

aimcompute wrote: "It might do the rest of us some good if you could take
some shots of the
pieces you recovered.  I'm quite curious what a PZ-1p/lens looks like after
a 50 ft drop."

I will do my best to do this for you, however, I took it straight to the
camera shop when it happened in a fruitless bid to somehow have it put back
together, the guy simply looked at me and said "sorry, i stopped doing
jigsaw puzzles in primary school" and laughed rather smuggly to himself as I
had been gloating over my purchase to him for some time (he is a canon
user).  I left the parts there in my disgust.  I will go back today and see
what he has done with them.   Fingers crossed that all will be present and
accounted for.  I actually had the urge to run home and get my MZ-50 and
take a shot of all of the debris where it lay after the event, but it would
have been impractical with my kids and it was getting dark etc so I just
picked it all up and dropped it off to the camera guy.  I might go back to
day and see if I can at least take shot of the cliff face for you.

John Mustarde wrote:

"I once had a PZ1p and A* 200/4 Macro take a rolling dive off a park
bench onto the concrete. But your loss is worse - my camera and lens
were both insured and repairable."

Yep, not insured or repairable, but as I said before, these things happen
for a reason, and I am sure that there must be another opportunity of some
description waiting for me out there - just gotta find it.

Doug Brewer, thanks for your post about the 8-ball analogy.  I learned Doug,
boy did I learn!  I think I will be buying a relly good, really stable
tripod before I buy another expensive camera body, and my kids and camera's
just aren't a good scenario to consider any more!  But, yes, once again, at
least my boys are safe

:-)

Sorry for the lengthy responses guys, I just wanted to make sure that I
didn't miss anybody, I didn't anticipate on receiving so many responses when
I posted this!



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Re: A TRAGIC, TRAGIC day....

2001-03-22 Thread William Robb


- Original Message -
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 Ah, what a day.  Maybe it's time for Bill to tell the story
(complete with
 pics) of the tragic incident involving his Pentax 67.  And you
thought
 *you* had it bad.  :)

That was actually my Bronica ETRs. It fell a hell of a lot
farther than 50 feet too.
William Robb


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Re: A TRAGIC, TRAGIC day....

2001-03-22 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: "Tanya  Russell Mayer" 
Subject: Re: A TRAGIC, TRAGIC day


Mcdonalds beef!?!  

Oxymoron
Perhaps heavy on the Ox.
HAR
Wheatfield Willie

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Re: Subject: A TRAGIC, TRAGIC day....Camera Insurance

2001-03-22 Thread John Mustarde

On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 17:13:38 -0800, you wrote:

It's disturbing how fast that annual premium mounts up, though :-(

I have an all-risk rider covering about ten thousand of my gear, at a
rate of about $1.35 per $100 valuation. 

The policy paid a $1400 claim the first year I had it, so I am still
in the black for awhile.


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