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From: P. J. Alling No; nor when I worked there either. It's a very sensitive issue with the USPS brass, and it's a very anal, uptight work environment. Mentioning going postal would get you a reprimand. I worked the computer help desk, where everything ran on WindozeNT. You weren't allowed to call the BSOD by that name, which BTW even M$ uses, because it had the word death. You had to call it a windows blue screen Some of us had the jackets made up as a joke, but you couldn't wear it anywhere near work. Probably would have gotten fired if the brass had known about them. In the end it didn't matter, because we all got laid-off and the jobs were outsourced offshore. Does the USPS give you an ammunition allowance? John Sessoms wrote: From: John Celio It'd be nice to see a pro using Pentax equipment in some of those shots, but I imagine he'd be the laughing stock in those Canon-crowds. In the words of Dick Feynmann: Why do you care what anybody else thinks? It's not so much what they think, as it is the constant heckling. I've been in situations where Canon/Nikon snobs are shooting nearby and kept making rude comments or laughing when I pulled out my Pentax. It rolls off my back for a little while, but it gets old eventually. John I just turn around so they can read the USPS Rifle Team logo on the back of the jacket. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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John Celio wrote: It's not so much what they think, as it is the constant heckling. I've been in situations where Canon/Nikon snobs are shooting nearby and kept making rude comments or laughing when I pulled out my Pentax. It rolls off my back for a little while, but it gets old eventually. And, strangely, they are never using the Nikon or Canon Pro models. So their camera is at least as amateur as your Pentax, if not more so. You do not have to have knowledge to be a snob. In fact it helps if you do not. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 4/4/07, John Celio, discombobulated, unleashed: It's not so much what they think, as it is the constant heckling. I've been in situations where Canon/Nikon snobs are shooting nearby and kept making rude comments or laughing when I pulled out my Pentax. It rolls off my back for a little while, but it gets old eventually. Sad. In the world of TV news, there is no such thing as this sort of brand snobbery. Whether it is Sony or Panasonic or any make, does not matter at all. In fact, what tends to happen is that if anyone is struggling with their kit, others will help out. Sometimes you get a VJ with a cheaper end camera who is floundering...nobody laughs. We realise that the industry is changing and that staffers get given what their employers see fit to give them, and this is usually inadequate. We often share lights, and have even been known to share a missed shot of a villain leaving court! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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That is because you are dealing with pro's. To them a tool is a tool, it is the amateurs with their so called pro cameras that are usually the snobs. It is a matter of oneupmanship and has nothing whatsoever to do with reality. I imagine there is a lot of it amongst amateur video folks with their pro-sumer video cameras sneering at those who have ps camcorders as well. -graywolf Cotty wrote: On 4/4/07, John Celio, discombobulated, unleashed: It's not so much what they think, as it is the constant heckling. I've been in situations where Canon/Nikon snobs are shooting nearby and kept making rude comments or laughing when I pulled out my Pentax. It rolls off my back for a little while, but it gets old eventually. Sad. In the world of TV news, there is no such thing as this sort of brand snobbery. Whether it is Sony or Panasonic or any make, does not matter at all. In fact, what tends to happen is that if anyone is struggling with their kit, others will help out. Sometimes you get a VJ with a cheaper end camera who is floundering...nobody laughs. We realise that the industry is changing and that staffers get given what their employers see fit to give them, and this is usually inadequate. We often share lights, and have even been known to share a missed shot of a villain leaving court! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From: John Celio It'd be nice to see a pro using Pentax equipment in some of those shots, but I imagine he'd be the laughing stock in those Canon-crowds. In the words of Dick Feynmann: Why do you care what anybody else thinks? It's not so much what they think, as it is the constant heckling. I've been in situations where Canon/Nikon snobs are shooting nearby and kept making rude comments or laughing when I pulled out my Pentax. It rolls off my back for a little while, but it gets old eventually. John I just turn around so they can read the USPS Rifle Team logo on the back of the jacket. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Sometimes just the opposite happens, at least for me it has. I've been out shooting with a Pentax and someone approaches me with positive comments on the gear. Some time ago I was using the LX in Berkeley and a small group of Japanese tourists saw me. A couple of them gave me some very strong signs of approval, one even bowed slightly. I've never been heckled, but if I had been it would have been an honor, for it shows just how insecure the hecklers are. A real pro would never do such a thing. Knowledgeable people understand the quality of Pentax glass, appreciate the smaller size of the cameras, and recognize that Pentax, just like any other brand, has some good and valuable features. And wouldn't some of those jamokes be surprised to learn that some of their precious lenses were designed by Pentax (or so I've been told). Shel It's not so much what they think, as it is the constant heckling. I've been in situations where Canon/Nikon snobs are shooting nearby and kept making rude comments or laughing when I pulled out my Pentax. It rolls off my back for a little while, but it gets old eventually. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Does the USPS give you an ammunition allowance? John Sessoms wrote: From: John Celio It'd be nice to see a pro using Pentax equipment in some of those shots, but I imagine he'd be the laughing stock in those Canon-crowds. In the words of Dick Feynmann: Why do you care what anybody else thinks? It's not so much what they think, as it is the constant heckling. I've been in situations where Canon/Nikon snobs are shooting nearby and kept making rude comments or laughing when I pulled out my Pentax. It rolls off my back for a little while, but it gets old eventually. John I just turn around so they can read the USPS Rifle Team logo on the back of the jacket. -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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How else could so many people afford to go postal? -- Bob Does the USPS give you an ammunition allowance? John Sessoms wrote: From: John Celio It'd be nice to see a pro using Pentax equipment in some of those shots, but I imagine he'd be the laughing stock in those Canon-crowds. In the words of Dick Feynmann: Why do you care what anybody else thinks? It's not so much what they think, as it is the constant heckling. I've been in situations where Canon/Nikon snobs are shooting nearby and kept making rude comments or laughing when I pulled out my Pentax. It rolls off my back for a little while, but it gets old eventually. John I just turn around so they can read the USPS Rifle Team logo on the back of the jacket. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Hello Everybody, In an attempt to ease the built-up tension I suggest that you adjourn to the provided link and have some fun and a laugh about ourselves, as both human being and photographers. Disclaimer: I beg Ann's (and any other lady in the list) pardon for some of the images...nothing really serious but certainly not very dignified. http://fishki.net/comment.php?id=18351 Ciao, Flavio PS: I'm sorry for the Cyrillic text, but I'm pretty sure you won't mind. ;-) CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This message and its attachments are addressed solely to the persons above and may contain confidential information. If you have received the message in error, be informed that any use of the content hereof is prohibited. Please return it immediately to the sender and delete the message. Should you have any questions, please contact us by replying to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you www.telecomitalia.it -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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In an attempt to ease the built-up tension I suggest that you adjourn to the provided link and have some fun and a laugh about ourselves, as both human being and photographers. Disclaimer: I beg Ann's (and any other lady in the list) pardon for some of the images...nothing really serious but certainly not very dignified. http://fishki.net/comment.php?id=18351 That's some very amusing stuff. Thanks for posting. It'd be nice to see a pro using Pentax equipment in some of those shots, but I imagine he'd be the laughing stock in those Canon-crowds. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Apr 4, 2007, at 6:37 PM, John Celio wrote: It'd be nice to see a pro using Pentax equipment in some of those shots, but I imagine he'd be the laughing stock in those Canon-crowds. In the words of Dick Feynmann: Why do you care what anybody else thinks? Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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At 09:51 AM 5/04/2007, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Apr 4, 2007, at 6:37 PM, John Celio wrote: It'd be nice to see a pro using Pentax equipment in some of those shots, but I imagine he'd be the laughing stock in those Canon-crowds. In the words of Dick Feynmann: Why do you care what anybody else thinks? Godfrey Up to a point. I think it's the personal motto of he who shall remain nameless. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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It'd be nice to see a pro using Pentax equipment in some of those shots, but I imagine he'd be the laughing stock in those Canon-crowds. In the words of Dick Feynmann: Why do you care what anybody else thinks? It's not so much what they think, as it is the constant heckling. I've been in situations where Canon/Nikon snobs are shooting nearby and kept making rude comments or laughing when I pulled out my Pentax. It rolls off my back for a little while, but it gets old eventually. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Apr 4, 2007, at 8:07 PM, John Celio wrote: It'd be nice to see a pro using Pentax equipment in some of those shots, but I imagine he'd be the laughing stock in those Canon-crowds. In the words of Dick Feynmann: Why do you care what anybody else thinks? It's not so much what they think, as it is the constant heckling. I've been in situations where Canon/Nikon snobs are shooting nearby and kept making rude comments or laughing when I pulled out my Pentax. It rolls off my back for a little while, but it gets old eventually. I guess I have thicker skin. Photographers obsessed with the brand of equipment they use are not worth worrying about. I just show them my photos and ask to see theirs. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
