Re: GESO: Can't Decide (book choices)

2009-01-15 Thread wendy beard
I see it.
I like Branch (because it looks like chocolate) and Grapes

Wendy
(not food motivated)

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:53 PM, John Celio  wrote:
>> I can't see them. Is your site down?
>>
>> Wendy
>
> It was down for most of the day, but it's back up now.
>
> Thanks,
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RE: GESO: Can't Decide (book choices)

2009-01-14 Thread John Celio
> I can't see them. Is your site down?
>
> Wendy

It was down for most of the day, but it's back up now.

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Re: GESO: Can't Decide (book choices)

2009-01-14 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:40 PM, wendy beard  wrote:
> I can't see them. Is your site down?

Yes, it is. (so he says on another thread)

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Re: GESO: Can't Decide (book choices)

2009-01-14 Thread wendy beard
I can't see them. Is your site down?

Wendy

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 12:52 AM, John Celio  wrote:
> Five finalists:
> http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1062
>
> Took forever to narrow it down this much.  Hardest bit of editing I've had
> to do all year.  The hummingbird one is supposed to look sepia toned, but
> the Photoshop sepia filter doesn't help for shit, and this is the closest I
> could get.  Probably too yellow.
>
> If you have an opinion on which one or two are best, I'd be immensely
> grateful.  I'm a terrible editor, especially with recent photos taken
> recently.
>
> Thanks,
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Re: GESO: Can't Decide (book choices)

2009-01-13 Thread Stan Halpin

1. Grapes.
2. ?  Probably the meerkat, except for the bokah. Of the other three,  
the butterfly is too tight a shot for my taste, the hummingbird shot  
is nice but has those distracting wires, and the branch is one of  
those macro shots that are so tight that you can't tell what you are  
looking at without a caption.


stan

On Jan 12, 2009, at 11:52 PM, John Celio wrote:


Five finalists:
http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1062

Took forever to narrow it down this much.  Hardest bit of editing  
I've had to do all year.  The hummingbird one is supposed to look  
sepia toned, but the Photoshop sepia filter doesn't help for shit,  
and this is the closest I could get.  Probably too yellow.


If you have an opinion on which one or two are best, I'd be  
immensely grateful.  I'm a terrible editor, especially with recent  
photos taken recently.


Thanks,
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Re: GESO: Can't Decide (book choices)

2009-01-13 Thread ann sanfedele



Bob Sullivan wrote:


John,
The last 3 are better than the first two.
Regards,  Bob S.

 


hope he doesn't use the "arrange" button to change the order, bob ;-)

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Re: GESO: Can't Decide (book choices)

2009-01-13 Thread Ken Waller

Paul, great minds think alike !

My choice also.

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Re: GESO: Can't Decide (book choices)



Meerkat and grapes.
On Jan 13, 2009, at 12:52 AM, John Celio wrote:


Five finalists:
http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1062

Took forever to narrow it down this much.  Hardest bit of editing  
I've had to do all year.  The hummingbird one is supposed to look  
sepia toned, but the Photoshop sepia filter doesn't help for shit,  
and this is the closest I could get.  Probably too yellow.


If you have an opinion on which one or two are best, I'd be  
immensely grateful.  I'm a terrible editor, especially with recent  
photos taken recently.


Thanks,
John

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Re: Can't Decide (book choices)

2009-01-13 Thread Ken Waller

Meerkat & Grapes work for me.

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: GESO: Can't Decide (book choices)



Five finalists:
http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1062

Took forever to narrow it down this much.  Hardest bit of editing I've had 
to do all year.  The hummingbird one is supposed to look sepia toned, but 
the Photoshop sepia filter doesn't help for shit, and this is the closest 
I could get.  Probably too yellow.


If you have an opinion on which one or two are best, I'd be immensely 
grateful.  I'm a terrible editor, especially with recent photos taken 
recently.


Thanks,
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Re: GESO: Can't Decide (book choices)

2009-01-13 Thread Bob Sullivan
John,
The last 3 are better than the first two.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:52 PM, John Celio  wrote:
> Five finalists:
> http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1062
>
> Took forever to narrow it down this much.  Hardest bit of editing I've had
> to do all year.  The hummingbird one is supposed to look sepia toned, but
> the Photoshop sepia filter doesn't help for shit, and this is the closest I
> could get.  Probably too yellow.
>
> If you have an opinion on which one or two are best, I'd be immensely
> grateful.  I'm a terrible editor, especially with recent photos taken
> recently.
>
> Thanks,
> John
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Re: Can't Decide (book choices)

2009-01-13 Thread Christine Aguila
Grapes & Meerkat--I agree that the bokeh could be improved, but I still love 
the shot anyway.  Cheers, Christine




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Subject: GESO: Can't Decide (book choices)



Five finalists:
http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1062

Took forever to narrow it down this much.  Hardest bit of editing I've had 
to do all year.  The hummingbird one is supposed to look sepia toned, but 
the Photoshop sepia filter doesn't help for shit, and this is the closest 
I could get.  Probably too yellow.


If you have an opinion on which one or two are best, I'd be immensely 
grateful.  I'm a terrible editor, especially with recent photos taken 
recently.


Thanks,
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RE: GESO: Can't Decide (book choices)

2009-01-13 Thread John Celio
Thanks for the feedback so far everyone!  You're all immensely helpful.


> Grapes needs to be sharper(?) and there seems to be something wrong
> with the tone gradations, it looks almost posterized, but I have to
> assume you didn't intend that. 

The grapes are really sharp when viewed larger.  Also, these photos are
compressed (using PS's Save For Web function) enough to make them load
quickly for web viewers, so that may be part of the problem.  The
gradations you see could be because the grapes were underwater (in a
centerpiece, to be precise).  Grape skins seem to do that when they're
submerged.  Maybe there's some sort of waxy coating on them?  I don't
know.

> Finally did you know I hate you? 

I'm honored!

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Re: GESO: Can't Decide (book choices)

2009-01-13 Thread ann sanfedele
Frankly, I found a shot on your smugmug page that I like a lot better 
than any of these - and it's unusual cause I'm not

a big fan of cute little kid shots  :-)  - it is this one:

http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=847

sweet expression and good all around technically/geometrically.  


If I have to pick from these :

Meercat by a mile for me - He has heart..
BUT I'd  crop about h  well if this were a 6 inch tall shot, about 1 
inch off the top.. too much space above

his head distracts.
.
2nd Humming bird  - but black and white would be fine  for this, since 
you mention struggling with the sepia..
the humming bird  has the most interesting "geometry"  but  there are 
little specs of stuff around that I'd want to get rid of.

(note bottom left bar)

The grapes bother me because they look like  well, green maggots... 
looks like they are in a glass.. but it is
a well done photo technically... do you have more space around the 
glass? so that you see it is a glass holding grapes?


The closeup of the branch is in last place for me --  The butterfly  is 
next to last --  I can't quite explain why.. a bit too fussy .


Yeah - it is really hard to chose from recently done stuff...
Hope this helps and sorry it is late...  I'm just coming back into life 
after long cold virus



ann


John Celio wrote:


Five finalists:
http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1062

Took forever to narrow it down this much.  Hardest bit of editing I've 
had to do all year.  The hummingbird one is supposed to look sepia 
toned, but the Photoshop sepia filter doesn't help for shit, and this 
is the closest I could get.  Probably too yellow.


If you have an opinion on which one or two are best, I'd be immensely 
grateful.  I'm a terrible editor, especially with recent photos taken 
recently.


Thanks,
John

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Re: GESO: Can't Decide (book choices)

2009-01-13 Thread David J Brooks
I've not looked at the other replies, yet, but I like the hummingbird
shot, the bars make it, and I also like branch.

Dave

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 12:52 AM, John Celio  wrote:
> Five finalists:
> http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1062
>
> Took forever to narrow it down this much.  Hardest bit of editing I've had
> to do all year.  The hummingbird one is supposed to look sepia toned, but
> the Photoshop sepia filter doesn't help for shit, and this is the closest I
> could get.  Probably too yellow.
>
> If you have an opinion on which one or two are best, I'd be immensely
> grateful.  I'm a terrible editor, especially with recent photos taken
> recently.
>
> Thanks,
> John
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Re: GESO: Can't Decide (book choices)

2009-01-13 Thread Peter Alling
All are very interesting, all are at least a little flawed.  That said, I'm 
very impressed.  While the DOF isn't really sufficient on butterfly, and as 
someone else remarked that the wing on the hummingbird is almost covering it's 
eye I'd go with those two, the compositions easily overcome the nits.  Meerkat 
is the most conventional image and that really allows it's flaws to show. 
Branch is also pretty conventional, though the best executed, almost perfect 
use of DOF, and beautifully lit.  Grapes needs to be sharper(?) and there seems 
to be something wrong with the tone gradations, it looks almost posterized, but 
I have to assume you didn't intend that. 
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>In a message dated 1/12/2009 9:53:17 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
>n...@neovenator.com writes:
>Five  finalists:
>http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1062
>
>Took  forever to narrow it down this much.  Hardest bit of editing I've had  
>to do all year.  The hummingbird one is supposed to look sepia toned,  but 
>the Photoshop sepia filter doesn't help for shit, and this is the  closest I 
>could get.  Probably too yellow.
>
>If you have an  opinion on which one or two are best, I'd be immensely 
>grateful.  I'm a  terrible editor, especially with recent photos taken  
>recently.
>
>Thanks,
>John
>
>==
>Grapes,  Butterfly.
>
>While I liked Meerkat a lot (the way the tail curves on the  rock), I felt 
>the bokeh in the background was unpleasant. (BTW, I'd tone the  highlights in 
>Grapes just a tiny tad.)
>
>HTH, Marnie aka Doe  :-)
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Re: GESO: Can't Decide (book choices)

2009-01-13 Thread Fernando
What he said

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> John Celio wrote:
>>
>> Five finalists:
>> http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1062
>>
>> Took forever to narrow it down this much.  Hardest bit of editing I've had
>> to do all year.  The hummingbird one is supposed to look sepia toned, but
>> the Photoshop sepia filter doesn't help for shit, and this is the closest I
>> could get.  Probably too yellow.
>>
>> If you have an opinion on which one or two are best, I'd be immensely
>> grateful.  I'm a terrible editor, especially with recent photos taken
>> recently.
>
> Hummingbird and Butterfly.
>
> 1 - They're good photos
> 2 - They're unconventional examples of their genre
> 3 - They seem to me to be unconventional in a similar way (though I can't
> quite put my finger on it)
>
> Grapes and Branch are also good and seem to pair nicely. Nothing wrong with
> them but they don't stand out to me.
>
> Meercat isn't in the same league with the other 4. Harsh bokeh, blown-out
> highlights in the fur. Nothing special about the composition or subject
> matter.
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Re: GESO: Can't Decide (book choices)

2009-01-13 Thread Mark Roberts

John Celio wrote:

Five finalists:
http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1062

Took forever to narrow it down this much.  Hardest bit of editing I've 
had to do all year.  The hummingbird one is supposed to look sepia 
toned, but the Photoshop sepia filter doesn't help for shit, and this is 
the closest I could get.  Probably too yellow.


If you have an opinion on which one or two are best, I'd be immensely 
grateful.  I'm a terrible editor, especially with recent photos taken 
recently.


Hummingbird and Butterfly.

1 - They're good photos
2 - They're unconventional examples of their genre
3 - They seem to me to be unconventional in a similar way (though I 
can't quite put my finger on it)


Grapes and Branch are also good and seem to pair nicely. Nothing wrong 
with them but they don't stand out to me.


Meercat isn't in the same league with the other 4. Harsh bokeh, 
blown-out highlights in the fur. Nothing special about the composition 
or subject matter.



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Re: GESO: Can't Decide (book choices)

2009-01-13 Thread Bong Manayon
Butterfly and a toss up between the Meerkat & Grapes because of the
reasons Marnie gave...

Cheers!

Bong

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:52 PM, John Celio  wrote:
> Five finalists:
> http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1062
>
> Took forever to narrow it down this much.  Hardest bit of editing I've had
> to do all year.  The hummingbird one is supposed to look sepia toned, but
> the Photoshop sepia filter doesn't help for shit, and this is the closest I
> could get.  Probably too yellow.
>
> If you have an opinion on which one or two are best, I'd be immensely
> grateful.  I'm a terrible editor, especially with recent photos taken
> recently.
>
> Thanks,
> John
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Re: GESO: Can't Decide (book choices)

2009-01-13 Thread Tim Øsleby
Grapes and flakes (Branch) makes a nice pair.

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2009/1/13 John Celio :
> Five finalists:
> http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1062
>

> Thanks,
> John

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Re: GESO: Can't Decide (book choices)

2009-01-13 Thread Paul Stenquist

Meerkat and grapes.
On Jan 13, 2009, at 12:52 AM, John Celio wrote:


Five finalists:
http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1062

Took forever to narrow it down this much.  Hardest bit of editing  
I've had to do all year.  The hummingbird one is supposed to look  
sepia toned, but the Photoshop sepia filter doesn't help for shit,  
and this is the closest I could get.  Probably too yellow.


If you have an opinion on which one or two are best, I'd be  
immensely grateful.  I'm a terrible editor, especially with recent  
photos taken recently.


Thanks,
John

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Re: GESO: Can't Decide (book choices)

2009-01-13 Thread Luiz Felipe
Make mine Branch and Butterfly - but I kept tilting the notebook every 
time I watched Butterfly. Great images anyway, but I'd leave the "rat" 
and the hummingbird out, on the count of the background and wing 
position just about to cover its eyes.


If you guys keep posting that good images the book is going to make 
history...


LF

John Celio escreveu:

Five finalists:
http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1062

Took forever to narrow it down this much.  Hardest bit of editing I've 
had to do all year.  The hummingbird one is supposed to look sepia 
toned, but the Photoshop sepia filter doesn't help for shit, and this 
is the closest I could get.  Probably too yellow.


If you have an opinion on which one or two are best, I'd be immensely 
grateful.  I'm a terrible editor, especially with recent photos taken 
recently.


Thanks,
John

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RE: GESO: Can't Decide (book choices)

2009-01-13 Thread Bob W
Meerkat and Branch.

Bob 

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> Behalf Of John Celio
> Sent: 13 January 2009 05:53
> To: PDML@pdml.net
> Subject: GESO: Can't Decide (book choices)
> 
> Five finalists:
> http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1062
> 
> Took forever to narrow it down this much.  Hardest bit of 
> editing I've had 
> to do all year.  The hummingbird one is supposed to look 
> sepia toned, but 
> the Photoshop sepia filter doesn't help for shit, and this is 
> the closest I 
> could get.  Probably too yellow.
> 
> If you have an opinion on which one or two are best, I'd be immensely 
> grateful.  I'm a terrible editor, especially with recent photos taken 
> recently.
> 
> Thanks,
> John
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Re: GESO: Can't Decide (book choices)

2009-01-13 Thread Brian Walters
Hi John

Branch and Butterfly and my preferences.  I agree with Marnie on
Meercat.



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On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:52:38 -0800, "John Celio" 
said:
> Five finalists:
> http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1062
> 
> Took forever to narrow it down this much.  Hardest bit of editing I've
> had 
> to do all year.  The hummingbird one is supposed to look sepia toned, but 
> the Photoshop sepia filter doesn't help for shit, and this is the closest
> I 
> could get.  Probably too yellow.
> 
> If you have an opinion on which one or two are best, I'd be immensely 
> grateful.  I'm a terrible editor, especially with recent photos taken 
> recently.
> 
> Thanks,
> John
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Re: GESO: Can't Decide (book choices)

2009-01-12 Thread Joseph McAllister
I like grapes and branch, but I'd crop branch closer so less is out of  
focus.


3rd would be butterfly, 4th meerkat, 5th hummingbird.


On Jan 12, 2009, at 21:52 , John Celio wrote:


Five finalists:
http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1062

Took forever to narrow it down this much.  Hardest bit of editing  
I've had to do all year.  The hummingbird one is supposed to look  
sepia toned, but the Photoshop sepia filter doesn't help for shit,  
and this is the closest I could get.  Probably too yellow.


If you have an opinion on which one or two are best, I'd be  
immensely grateful.  I'm a terrible editor, especially with recent  
photos taken recently.


Joseph McAllister
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Re: GESO: Can't Decide (book choices)

2009-01-12 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/12/2009 9:53:17 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
n...@neovenator.com writes:
Five  finalists:
http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1062

Took  forever to narrow it down this much.  Hardest bit of editing I've had  
to do all year.  The hummingbird one is supposed to look sepia toned,  but 
the Photoshop sepia filter doesn't help for shit, and this is the  closest I 
could get.  Probably too yellow.

If you have an  opinion on which one or two are best, I'd be immensely 
grateful.  I'm a  terrible editor, especially with recent photos taken  
recently.

Thanks,
John

==
Grapes,  Butterfly.

While I liked Meerkat a lot (the way the tail curves on the  rock), I felt 
the bokeh in the background was unpleasant. (BTW, I'd tone the  highlights in 
Grapes just a tiny tad.)

HTH, Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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GESO: Can't Decide (book choices)

2009-01-12 Thread John Celio

Five finalists:
http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1062

Took forever to narrow it down this much.  Hardest bit of editing I've had 
to do all year.  The hummingbird one is supposed to look sepia toned, but 
the Photoshop sepia filter doesn't help for shit, and this is the closest I 
could get.  Probably too yellow.


If you have an opinion on which one or two are best, I'd be immensely 
grateful.  I'm a terrible editor, especially with recent photos taken 
recently.


Thanks,
John

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