Re: Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 80/1.8 (was: Re: 85mm F:1.8 Auto Takumar)

2003-01-27 Thread akozak
Hi All,
I used to have Flektogon 20/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Pancolar 50/1.8 and Sonnar 135/3.5
All were quitenice but I used old Practika with them and light meter was not very good 
for slides. when I decided to change system for Pentax I sold everythink + exte, tubes 
and Practika VLC3 which had interchangeable top like LX!!!
I have some problems with 20/2.8 since it was not justified.
All in all I decided to buy into one system.Sometimes I think I could not sell it it 
is too late.
Alek


















310 g, takes a 58mm filter, and has 6 elements in 5
groups (like the Super Takumar and Pentax SMC 85/1.8s):

Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 10:39:53 +0100 From: Frantisek Vlcek
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: favorite non-Pentax K mount lens? That's
easy. It's the 1.8/80mm Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar. Superb lens. ( M42 only)
... The 1.8/80 CZJ Pancolar is a gaussian design, probably very similar or
same as Planar design. I do have this lens, and while the Multicoating on my
sample is not as good as modern SMC (needs a lens hood still g), in normal
light it is about as sharp as my SMC F 1.4/50 or just slightly less (at
relatively same apertures - 1.4=1.8; 5.6=5.6). It's good wide open, and
excellent even moderately stopped down. It should be as sharp or even better
g than all the portrait 80mm' Pentax made (xcept the new ones, A  FA
1.4/85 of course). AFAIK it's same or very similar design to Pentax SMC-K
1.8/85 (most those 1.8/80 lenses are of same, planar-derived design). Only
drawback my sample is prone to flare from strong light sources.

From http://zuiko.sls.bc.ca/swright/archives/1999/msg01582.html: Hi Zuiko
amateurs, This week I bought a new (used) lens, and while it's not a Zuiko,
I just wanted to say what an amazing lens it seems to be. It's a
Carl-Zeiss-Jena (east) Pancolar 80mm 1:1,8 with M42 mount. Because of a
small dint at the front thread it costed only 200 DM (120 US dollar) instead
390 DM. First
slides taken with an aperture of 1:5,6 were great. Because there are no OM -
M42 adaptors, which goes to infinity without an auxiliary lens, this message
is somewhat off topic, but I think there aren't any M42 or Carl-Zeiss-Jena
(east) discussion lists around where I could share this experience. Regards,
Matthias.

Some of CZJ's lenses such as the Pancolar and Flektagon have their
roots in pre-WWII designs (Biotar and Distagon) for which CZJ could use
the designs, but not the original trademark names due to court rulings about
intellectual property rights. -- John

http://www.astrosurf.com/buil/us/spe2/hresol.htm: The Pancolor 80_1.8 lens
has a pupil diameter of 44.4 mm, which implies that there is no risk of
vignetting in any part of the spectrum. 

A user of 80_1.8 and other CZJ primes wrote: Superb. I know everyone says
Pentax made the best M42 lenses but I disagree.

From the Contax discussion list: By the way I have bayonet mount practica
lenses, Flektogon 20/f2.8 which is a very good lens Mayer 28/F2.8 not a bad
lens at all Flektogon 35/f2.4 very very nice lens Pancolor 50/f1.8 very nice
Pancolor 80/f1.8 ditto! Sonnar 135/f3.5 extremly nice lens Sonnar 300/f4 I
do not use much, though good one and mayer 50/f1.8 CZJ 55/f2.8 MACRO lens
(good lens) I would say these lenses have almost the same colour redention,
which is very pleasing, and very small distortion. So I like them a lot, but
cameras (B200 and BX20) are different story all together. I wish Penatcon
servived and produced a better camera body! 

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Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 80/1.8 (was: Re: 85mm F:1.8 Auto Takumar)

2003-01-25 Thread Paul Franklin Stregevsky
I'm not at the same computer that contains the PDML Digest in which someone
asked me to document my statement that the Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 80/1.8
is similar to the Pentax Super Takumar 85/1.8. My source is a series of
postings and private mailings in 2001 and 2002 by PDML's sadly missed CZJ
expert, Frantisek Vlcek of the Czech Republic. Here's all I have on the
Pancolar, which weighs 310 g, takes a 58mm filter, and has 6 elements in 5
groups (like the Super Takumar and Pentax SMC 85/1.8s):

Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 10:39:53 +0100 From: Frantisek Vlcek
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: favorite non-Pentax K mount lens? That's
easy. It's the 1.8/80mm Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar. Superb lens. ( M42 only)
... The 1.8/80 CZJ Pancolar is a gaussian design, probably very similar or
same as Planar design. I do have this lens, and while the Multicoating on my
sample is not as good as modern SMC (needs a lens hood still g), in normal
light it is about as sharp as my SMC F 1.4/50 or just slightly less (at
relatively same apertures - 1.4=1.8; 5.6=5.6). It's good wide open, and
excellent even moderately stopped down. It should be as sharp or even better
g than all the portrait 80mm' Pentax made (xcept the new ones, A  FA
1.4/85 of course). AFAIK it's same or very similar design to Pentax  SMC-K
1.8/85 (most those 1.8/80 lenses are of same, planar-derived design).  Only
drawback my sample is prone to flare from strong light sources.

From http://zuiko.sls.bc.ca/swright/archives/1999/msg01582.html: Hi Zuiko
amateurs, This week I bought a new (used) lens, and while it's not a Zuiko,
I just wanted to say what an amazing lens it seems to be. It's a
Carl-Zeiss-Jena (east) Pancolar 80mm 1:1,8 with M42 mount. Because of a
small dint at the front thread it costed only 200 DM (120 US dollar) instead
390 DM. First
slides taken with an aperture of 1:5,6 were great. Because there are no OM -
M42 adaptors, which goes to infinity without an auxiliary lens, this message
is somewhat off topic, but I think there aren't any M42 or Carl-Zeiss-Jena
(east) discussion lists around where I could share this experience. Regards,
Matthias.

Some of CZJ's lenses such as the Pancolar and Flektagon have their
roots in pre-WWII designs (Biotar and Distagon) for which CZJ could use
the designs, but not the original trademark names due to court rulings about
intellectual property rights. -- John

http://www.astrosurf.com/buil/us/spe2/hresol.htm: The Pancolor 80_1.8 lens
has a pupil diameter of 44.4 mm, which implies that there is no risk of
vignetting in any part of the spectrum. 

A user of 80_1.8 and other CZJ primes wrote: Superb. I know everyone says
Pentax made the best M42 lenses but I disagree.

From the Contax discussion list: By the way I have bayonet mount practica
lenses, Flektogon 20/f2.8 which is a very good lens Mayer 28/F2.8 not a bad
lens at all Flektogon 35/f2.4 very very nice lens Pancolor 50/f1.8 very nice
Pancolor 80/f1.8 ditto! Sonnar 135/f3.5 extremly nice lens Sonnar 300/f4 I
do not use much, though good one and mayer 50/f1.8 CZJ 55/f2.8 MACRO lens
(good lens) I would say these lenses have almost the same colour redention,
which is very pleasing, and very small distortion. So I like them a lot, but
cameras (B200 and BX20) are different story all together. I wish Penatcon
servived and produced a better camera body! 

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