RE: Contax digital slr (WAS: Re: Rome Photo show)
Interesting thread: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1014message=2475188 According to a Contax rep yesterday they may be ready for a lmited release later this month, but as of today there are no final production models in existence. This shop is a pre-order. There have one demo unit, not for sale. This demo unit is lucked with a glass box, only for showing, maybe it is only a case! -Original Message- From: Rob Brigham Sent: 26 March 2002 23:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Contax digital slr (WAS: Re: Rome Photo show) From another board: I have just received an e-mail from BH about their Contax Day on April 11. At 10:30 and 2:30, A Contax rep will 'host the NY debut of the NDigital SLR...' For the curious in NYC, it may be worth checking it out. They say you should reserve your seat... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Contax digital slr (WAS: Re: Rome Photo show)
Rob wrote: Furthermore; those engineers said that Sigma's market strategy was to become the third professional digital camera supplier, along with Canon and Nikon. It might at first seem far fetched but I suspect that in the future camera sales may be chip driven rather than name driven. Most people don't sit on a large selection of lenses so changing systems isn't that big deal as it is usually made out to be. Sigma already have HSM lenses and have annouced that they will relase image stabilized lenses at the end of the year. Regardless, I believe that when digital really start to dominate the market, big changes may occur in market share. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Contax digital slr (WAS: Re: Rome Photo show)
It could be very well that the people at the Contax stand were a bit enthousiastic about its availability. They were working models as one of the 2 was occasionally connected to a pc. There were however, hoardes of people at the stand so I did not manage to see/chat further. Michele Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Contax digital slr (WAS: Re: Rome Photo show)
From http://www.dpreview.com/news/0203/02032601contaxndigitaldelay.asp Contax N Digital - will it ever hit the streets? Two weeks ago (12th March) Contax Japan put a message up on their corporate server to say they were sorry but that the launch date for the N Digital which had supposed to have been that day was pushed back until the 25th. Digital Camera guru Yamada Kumio reporting from the Photo Expo 2002 (Japan) has apparently been told that this launch date must be again postponed due to final adjustment. I'm sure there are many people who were excited by this camera six megapixel full-frame digital SLR when it was announced almost two years ago. -Original Message- From: MPozzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 08:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Contax digital slr (WAS: Re: Rome Photo show) It could be very well that the people at the Contax stand were a bit enthousiastic about its availability. They were working models as one of the 2 was occasionally connected to a pc. There were however, hoardes of people at the stand so I did not manage to see/chat further. Michele Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Contax digital slr (WAS: Re: Rome Photo show)
From another board: I have just received an e-mail from BH about their Contax Day on April 11. At 10:30 and 2:30, A Contax rep will 'host the NY debut of the NDigital SLR...' For the curious in NYC, it may be worth checking it out. They say you should reserve your seat... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Contax digital slr (WAS: Re: Rome Photo show)
Bahahaha :) They better come through on this one... the last thing you want is an unruly and unsatisfied NYC mob chasing after your sorry A$$ because you showed up empty handed with a flyer that said Ooops, we've had a minor delay. . . Smirkingly, Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rob Brigham Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 6:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Contax digital slr (WAS: Re: Rome Photo show) From another board: I have just received an e-mail from BH about their Contax Day on April 11. At 10:30 and 2:30, A Contax rep will 'host the NY debut of the NDigital SLR...' For the curious in NYC, it may be worth checking it out. They say you should reserve your seat... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Contax digital slr (WAS: Re: Rome Photo show)
Mpozzi wrote: Other digital-related info, the contax digital full frame was very much there, they had 2 bodies being tried out, and the reps told me it was already in commerce...the price however Weird. It should be released today. Instead Contax annonced another delay but this time without any release date. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Contax digital slr (WAS: Re: Rome Photo show)
Demo models in a show are not the same as seeing cameras in store shelves, remember the Pentax digital was also seen in shows . --- Pål_Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mpozzi wrote: Other digital-related info, the contax digital full frame was very much there, they had 2 bodies being tried out, and the reps told me it was already in commerce...the price however Weird. It should be released today. Instead Contax annonced another delay but this time without any release date. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . __ File your taxes online! http://taxes.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Contax digital slr (WAS: Re: Rome Photo show)
On Monday, March 25, 2002, at 01:16 PM, Pål Jensen wrote: Weird. It should be released today. Instead Contax annonced another delay but this time without any release date. All those surprised by this development, please raise your hands. (sound of crickets chirping) -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Fwd: Contax Digital SLR
X-From_: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Mar 13 16:37:36 2002 Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.1.3108 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:37:43 -0500 Subject: Contax Digital SLR From: KT Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pål Andun Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH LOGIN at fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com from [24.114.62.107] using ID [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:37:33 -0500 Hello Pål, I have an interesting story but this is STRICTLY confidential, as the disclosure of this info is a dead giveaway of the source. So, please keep this within yourself. In Mr.X's Forum, there has been a thread about the Contax Digital SLR. Everybody knew that it won't come out as Kyocera previously announced. It has been delayed once and people knew that even the new release date could not be kept. And they knew why and at what stage the development was (high noise and low gain etc). When Kyocera revised the due date to March 12, everybody was laughing. Some people in the know expected further delay (which turned out to be right :-). Today, Mr.X revealed a bit of inside info. According to him, a few weeks ago, when Kyocera realized that March 12 date was in doubt, they came to Pentax for assistance, but Pentax respectfully declined. At the time, Pentax SLR was essentially the ready-to-market finished product, but Contax's was not. Pentax decided not to release the model strictly for the marketing reason but not for the technical one. Above was all he said. Somebody else added that, in PMA, you could handle Contax model on the floor but actual shooting was not allowed. In IPPF (?), somebody strongly demanded a sample pic which he got but it was nowhere near any kind of normal digital image, not even comparable to the digital PS. So, Kyocera actually came to Pentax, eh? The moral of this story to me is not so much about the big deal made out of Contax digital, but the fact Kyocera went to Pentax. A long time ago, someone in PDML, perhaps yourself, raised the question about the conspiracy theory between Pentax and Contax. Kyocera is not a true optical company but got the Contax brand which is a big asset in the market. There have been a number of things which made me wonder if much of what Kyocera/Contax have been doing was actually done, supplied or assisted by Pentax (who is letting Kyocera cultivate the high end market at their risk using the power of Contax brand). Now the subject of Bruce Rubenstein. I was browsing the recent PDML archives and he is a real pain in axx. He was one of the reasons why I took a sabbatical from the list at least for now. He is just a disgruntled former Pentax user and his whole purpose of coming back to the list is to sneer at us, the Pentax users. He should stay in the Nikon closet. I have nothing against Nikon, nor Canon, but I deliberately chose Pentax and stayed with it. I have a slight advantage of knowing Pentax's reputation better, having access to Japan. As someone said recently in the list, Pentax is very well respected in Japan. Pentax is not for everybody, it is a connoisseur's or enthusiasts' camera and you have to know what you are doing if you choose Pentax. I am fortunate enough to afford the complete set of F100 and some selected Nikkor lenses, if I so wanted, but I do not. Each brand has pros and cons but Pentax never failed to satisfy me on MOST of the requirements for my style/purpose of shooting. I could feel how well the camera design has been thought out in any model, addressing the most spec most people need. And this has been the tradition of Asahi. They are not technologically behind at all and in fact they are still the camera/optical company in true sense. Some of their glasses are superb. In Japan, there is a proverb amongst so called pro that [don't use Nikon to shoot lady's portrait], obviously because the Nikkor lenses lacks Zeiss/Pentax-like subtlty in its presentation of images, i.e., the priority is in resolution and Nikon never attained the art of subtle presentation of delicate gradation etc (capturing the air). But they relentlessly pursued the feature front like Canon. This feature war, in my analysis, has much to do with the present Japanese market place (and culture) which relenlessly demands the gadget-like features and automation. But this went too far and people only recently began to realize that we all lost something more important in camera and the hobby, thus the trend to retro lust. As I said, I have nothing against C/N. If I need to capture fast moving subject like F1 car etc for my living, or even as my hobby, and if my Pentax won't be sufficient to do so, I have no hesitation to buy a suitable set of body/lens of either C or N for that particular purpose. But I love Pentax's corporate philosophy, and they are not easily swayed by the market fad. Bruce does not know a thing. Nikon does not make money at all on the SLR. It is not just
RE: Contax Digital SLR
very interesting, but remind me not to tell you anything confidential! I am interested to see if the revised date of 23rd (I think) comes off either? -Original Message- From: Pål Audun Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 March 2002 10:33 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: Contax Digital SLR I have an interesting story but this is STRICTLY confidential, as the disclosure of this info is a dead giveaway of the source. So, please keep this within yourself. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Contax Digital SLR
- Original Message - From: Pål Audun Jensen Subject: Fwd: Contax Digital SLR Hello Pål, I have an interesting story but this is STRICTLY confidential, as the disclosure of this info is a dead giveaway of the source. So, please keep this within yourself. Well, I agree that Bruce can be a thorn, but to say he knows nothing takes most of the credibility away from the author of the missive. Pål has given nothing away, his source discredited himself. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Contax Digital SLR
- Original Message - From: dave o'brien Subject: RE: Contax Digital SLR On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Pål Audun Jensen wrote: I really hope you don't turn this into a long thread but avoid replying to it in order to minimize the damage to people who trusted in me. Damned those e-mail programs that automatically fill out the adress for you. You may want to ask Doug to delete it from the archives. And I would hope that request is refused. Attempts at rewriting history are pretty contemptable. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Contax Digital SLR
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, William Robb wrote: And I would hope that request is refused. Attempts at rewriting history are pretty contemptable. William Robb So if someone makes an honest mistake, he shouldn't be allowed to try and clean up the mess? dave -- dave o'brien - http://www.diaspoir.net Those who educate children well are more to be honored than parents, for these only gave life, those the art of living well. -- Aristotle - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fwd: Contax Digital SLR
- Original Message - From: Bruce Rubenstein Subject: Re: Fwd: Contax Digital SLR snipI'm all warm and tingly. That is also the early warning signs of a stroke. HAR!! WW - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fwd: Contax Digital SLR
There's a difference? --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce, Don't confuse famous and notorious! g Regards, Bob S. Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Contax Digital SLR
On Tuesday, March 19, 2002, at 07:25 PM, Bruce Rubenstein wrote: There's a difference? Yes, if you're famous you get to wear those glittery pants. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
