Re: DA-40mm and spiders
Ah, but I've already got the M ;-) Nick -Original Message- From: Peter J. Alling[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05/02/05 00:11:58 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.netpentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: DA-40mm and spiders Since you can get the M lens for between 125 and 199 I doubt you save anything... Nick Clark wrote: Does this mean it's identical optically to my SMC-M 40mm f2.8, so I can save a fortune buying the new one? Nick -Original Message- From: Lindamood, Mark[EMAIL PROTECTED] Second, Margus Mannik's observation of no DA 40mm vignetting through the PZ-1p viewfinder is also terrific. Several have posted that the DA lenses throw only an APS-size image circle, but I can't see any reason why that's the case. The DA 40mm objective element is exactly the same size as the original pancake, and the entire lens formulation is probably similar. Why would it throw a smaller circle? What I'm getting at is whether the lens will work on the other Pentax bodies despite being advertised as exclusive to the *ist bodies. Maybe Pentax is just trying to avoid sales competition with the 43 ltd.? Margus, can you post one of your shots with that nice DA 40mm lens? -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
RE: DA-40mm and spiders
Does this mean it's identical optically to my SMC-M 40mm f2.8, so I can save a fortune buying the new one? Nick -Original Message- From: Lindamood, Mark[EMAIL PROTECTED] Second, Margus Mannik's observation of no DA 40mm vignetting through the PZ-1p viewfinder is also terrific. Several have posted that the DA lenses throw only an APS-size image circle, but I can't see any reason why that's the case. The DA 40mm objective element is exactly the same size as the original pancake, and the entire lens formulation is probably similar. Why would it throw a smaller circle? What I'm getting at is whether the lens will work on the other Pentax bodies despite being advertised as exclusive to the *ist bodies. Maybe Pentax is just trying to avoid sales competition with the 43 ltd.? Margus, can you post one of your shots with that nice DA 40mm lens?
Re: DA-40mm and spiders
Since you can get the M lens for between 125 and 199 I doubt you save anything... Nick Clark wrote: Does this mean it's identical optically to my SMC-M 40mm f2.8, so I can save a fortune buying the new one? Nick -Original Message- From: Lindamood, Mark[EMAIL PROTECTED] Second, Margus Mannik's observation of no DA 40mm vignetting through the PZ-1p viewfinder is also terrific. Several have posted that the DA lenses throw only an APS-size image circle, but I can't see any reason why that's the case. The DA 40mm objective element is exactly the same size as the original pancake, and the entire lens formulation is probably similar. Why would it throw a smaller circle? What I'm getting at is whether the lens will work on the other Pentax bodies despite being advertised as exclusive to the *ist bodies. Maybe Pentax is just trying to avoid sales competition with the 43 ltd.? Margus, can you post one of your shots with that nice DA 40mm lens? -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
DA-40mm and spiders
First, Rod Studdert's spider shot posted below is way terrific, despite his lousy gear. Good on ya! Here's it's north american cousin through a 100mm F and a bad scanner. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?topic_id=1481msg_id=001U4Qphoto_id=265367photo_sel_index=0 Second, Margus Mannik's observation of no DA 40mm vignetting through the PZ-1p viewfinder is also terrific. Several have posted that the DA lenses throw only an APS-size image circle, but I can't see any reason why that's the case. The DA 40mm objective element is exactly the same size as the original pancake, and the entire lens formulation is probably similar. Why would it throw a smaller circle? What I'm getting at is whether the lens will work on the other Pentax bodies despite being advertised as exclusive to the *ist bodies. Maybe Pentax is just trying to avoid sales competition with the 43 ltd.? Margus, can you post one of your shots with that nice DA 40mm lens? http://www.eol.ee/~margus/arvutikasutaja/pancake.jpg
Re: DA-40mm and spiders
Maybe the only reason it's named a DA lens (and not D-FA) is the lack of aperture ring? It seems too good to be true... unfortunatelly, it won't match a ME Super :( Well, time to get a Super Program grin Alex Sarbu On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 09:51:20 -0500, Lindamood, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, Rod Studdert's spider shot posted below is way terrific, despite his lousy gear. Good on ya! Here's it's north american cousin through a 100mm F and a bad scanner. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?topic_id=1481msg_id=001U4Qphoto_id=265367photo_sel_index=0 Second, Margus Mannik's observation of no DA 40mm vignetting through the PZ-1p viewfinder is also terrific. Several have posted that the DA lenses throw only an APS-size image circle, but I can't see any reason why that's the case. The DA 40mm objective element is exactly the same size as the original pancake, and the entire lens formulation is probably similar. Why would it throw a smaller circle? What I'm getting at is whether the lens will work on the other Pentax bodies despite being advertised as exclusive to the *ist bodies. Maybe Pentax is just trying to avoid sales competition with the 43 ltd.? Margus, can you post one of your shots with that nice DA 40mm lens? http://www.eol.ee/~margus/arvutikasutaja/pancake.jpg
Re: DA-40mm and spiders
These are supposed to be FA-J aren't they? Thibouille On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 17:30:13 +0200, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe the only reason it's named a DA lens (and not D-FA) is the lack of aperture ring? It seems too good to be true... unfortunatelly, it won't match a ME Super :( Well, time to get a Super Program grin Alex Sarbu On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 09:51:20 -0500, Lindamood, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, Rod Studdert's spider shot posted below is way terrific, despite his lousy gear. Good on ya! Here's it's north american cousin through a 100mm F and a bad scanner. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?topic_id=1481msg_id=001U4Qphoto_id=265367photo_sel_index=0 Second, Margus Mannik's observation of no DA 40mm vignetting through the PZ-1p viewfinder is also terrific. Several have posted that the DA lenses throw only an APS-size image circle, but I can't see any reason why that's the case. The DA 40mm objective element is exactly the same size as the original pancake, and the entire lens formulation is probably similar. Why would it throw a smaller circle? What I'm getting at is whether the lens will work on the other Pentax bodies despite being advertised as exclusive to the *ist bodies. Maybe Pentax is just trying to avoid sales competition with the 43 ltd.? Margus, can you post one of your shots with that nice DA 40mm lens? http://www.eol.ee/~margus/arvutikasutaja/pancake.jpg
Re: DA-40mm and spiders
Of course, but a FA-J (Junior) Limited lens? Alex Sarbu On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 17:05:54 +0100, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These are supposed to be FA-J aren't they? Thibouille On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 17:30:13 +0200, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe the only reason it's named a DA lens (and not D-FA) is the lack of aperture ring? It seems too good to be true... unfortunatelly, it won't match a ME Super :( Well, time to get a Super Program grin Alex Sarbu On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 09:51:20 -0500, Lindamood, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, Rod Studdert's spider shot posted below is way terrific, despite his lousy gear. Good on ya! Here's it's north american cousin through a 100mm F and a bad scanner. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?topic_id=1481msg_id=001U4Qphoto_id=265367photo_sel_index=0 Second, Margus Mannik's observation of no DA 40mm vignetting through the PZ-1p viewfinder is also terrific. Several have posted that the DA lenses throw only an APS-size image circle, but I can't see any reason why that's the case. The DA 40mm objective element is exactly the same size as the original pancake, and the entire lens formulation is probably similar. Why would it throw a smaller circle? What I'm getting at is whether the lens will work on the other Pentax bodies despite being advertised as exclusive to the *ist bodies. Maybe Pentax is just trying to avoid sales competition with the 43 ltd.? Margus, can you post one of your shots with that nice DA 40mm lens? http://www.eol.ee/~margus/arvutikasutaja/pancake.jpg
Re: DA-40mm and spiders
Hi, FA-J lenses also have no aperture ring ... but ok, FA-J Limited would sound really strange. Somewhy it seems, that even Pentax official papers do not indicate this lens being suitable for film cameras. Got my film developed today and there were some three shots made with pancake. Unfortunatelly, only one of 'em is one more-or-less good ... it was the very end of the roll and I just had no time to find anything better to photograph but nearest available bushes. Sun goes down really quick in here at wintertime. Whatever - myself, I do not see (at least significant) vignetting. http://www.eol.ee/~margus/arvutikasutaja/frame34.jpg (Z-1p (HyP/ spot metered from nearest tree / ML: f8 1/250s*), DA 40 Limited, Fuji Sensia 100, local photo lab scan). *)damn, I was searching all my pockets to find this piece of paper with exposure data BR, Margus Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote: Maybe the only reason it's named a DA lens (and not D-FA) is the lack of aperture ring? It seems too good to be true... unfortunatelly, it won't match a ME Super :( Well, time to get a Super Program grin Alex Sarbu On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 09:51:20 -0500, Lindamood, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, Rod Studdert's spider shot posted below is way terrific, despite his lousy gear. Good on ya! Here's it's north american cousin through a 100mm F and a bad scanner. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?topic_id=1481msg_id=001U4Qphoto_id=265367photo_sel_index=0 Second, Margus Mannik's observation of no DA 40mm vignetting through the PZ-1p viewfinder is also terrific. Several have posted that the DA lenses throw only an APS-size image circle, but I can't see any reason why that's the case. The DA 40mm objective element is exactly the same size as the original pancake, and the entire lens formulation is probably similar. Why would it throw a smaller circle? What I'm getting at is whether the lens will work on the other Pentax bodies despite being advertised as exclusive to the *ist bodies. Maybe Pentax is just trying to avoid sales competition with the 43 ltd.? Margus, can you post one of your shots with that nice DA 40mm lens? http://www.eol.ee/~margus/arvutikasutaja/pancake.jpg
Re: DA-40mm and spiders
DA to me would mean that it's optimized for the digital camera sensors, and might not return the best results at corners and edges on 24x36mm format. That does not mean that it would be unusable, and it might in fact work quite well. It's not hard to make a 40mm lens that is well optimized for the 16x24mm digital sensors and is still perfectly useful for 24x36 format. It's not like making a 14mm lens, where optimization for the smaller format and overall size/weight/cost concerns means it will likely NOT be a very good performer on a larger format. Godfrey __ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo
