Re: Family Christmas Portrait

2008-12-01 Thread Matthew Montgomery
Just wanted to say thanks for everyone's comments. Some good tips in  
there as well and I am sure I will be getting some more flash practice  
in with the onset of the dark winter.


Matthew

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Re: Family Christmas Portrait

2008-12-01 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 11:47 PM, Christine  Aguila
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Matthew:  That's really sweet--what a cheerful  handsome looking family you
 have.  Cheers, Christine

I missed the original of this one, but I have to agree with Christine
on all counts.

Love the child's expression!  What a great family keepsake (and a
terrific one to put out on cards!)

cheers,
frank

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Re: Family Christmas Portrait

2008-11-30 Thread Matthew Montgomery


On Nov 29, 2008, at 11:16 PM, Ken Waller wrote:


Cute shot , nice exposure.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f


Thanks all.

Anyone have any tips for this sort of shot with a single flash? I  
pretty mush just focused on trying to find some way to bounce the  
light around. Directional flash was a no go in this situation.





- Original Message - From: Matthew Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


Subject: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait


First time taking an indoor, primarily flash lit, family portrait  
for  this year's Christmas card. This was with a K10D, a DA 21mm  
and a 540  flash. To get anything decent I had to bounce the flash  
off the wall  behind the camera. By the way, the blinking red light  
in wireless  remote mode worked well as an entertainment source for  
the kid. :-)

http://electricjunk.smugmug.com/photos/426997365_CCwoz-L.jpg
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Re: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait

2008-11-30 Thread PN Stenquist
Well done. Nice composition and good light. I might work on the color  
temperature and tint a bit. It has a wee bit of green cast.

Paul
On Nov 29, 2008, at 10:43 PM, Matthew Montgomery wrote:

First time taking an indoor, primarily flash lit, family portrait  
for this year's Christmas card. This was with a K10D, a DA 21mm and  
a 540 flash. To get anything decent I had to bounce the flash off  
the wall behind the camera. By the way, the blinking red light in  
wireless remote mode worked well as an entertainment source for the  
kid. :-)


http://electricjunk.smugmug.com/photos/426997365_CCwoz-L.jpg

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Re: Family Christmas Portrait

2008-11-30 Thread PN Stenquist
You did well in regard to the direction and diffusion of the light.  
The color cast I mentioned in another post is probably due to bouncing  
off the mustard colored wall, if that is what you did. Using a piece  
of white posterboard or a studio umbrella on a stand as a reflector  
would avoid that. But I think you have a great photo here that would  
be enhanced by a slight color tweak.

Paul
On Nov 30, 2008, at 9:25 AM, Matthew Montgomery wrote:



On Nov 29, 2008, at 11:16 PM, Ken Waller wrote:


Cute shot , nice exposure.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f


Thanks all.

Anyone have any tips for this sort of shot with a single flash? I  
pretty mush just focused on trying to find some way to bounce the  
light around. Directional flash was a no go in this situation.





- Original Message - From: Matthew Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


Subject: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait


First time taking an indoor, primarily flash lit, family portrait  
for  this year's Christmas card. This was with a K10D, a DA 21mm  
and a 540  flash. To get anything decent I had to bounce the flash  
off the wall  behind the camera. By the way, the blinking red  
light in wireless  remote mode worked well as an entertainment  
source for the kid. :-)

http://electricjunk.smugmug.com/photos/426997365_CCwoz-L.jpg
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Re: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait

2008-11-30 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/29/2008 7:43:25 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
First time taking an  indoor, primarily flash lit, family portrait for  
this year's Christmas  card. This was with a K10D, a DA 21mm and a 540  
flash. To get anything  decent I had to bounce the flash off the wall  
behind the camera. By  the way, the blinking red light in wireless  
remote mode worked well as  an entertainment source for the kid.  :-)

http://electricjunk.smugmug.com/photos/426997365_CCwoz-L.jpg

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Nicely  done. I think, though, you could lighten up your face just a tad.

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Re: Family Christmas Portrait

2008-11-30 Thread Paul Sorenson
Some excellent suggestions from Paul...You can get rid of the yellowish 
cast by adding some blue.  On my monitor it also looks a little dark so 
I'd have to lighten it for my system - YMMV.


Other options for single flash could include some sort of light modifier 
on the flash itself.  Paul has shown some excellent work using both 
LumiQuest and LightSphere products.


I've had some good luck going the cheap route using this -

http://www.abetterbouncecard.com/

You can also check out David Ziser's blog - he's a quite successful 
photographer in the Cincinnati area and has some good tutorials.


http://www.digitalprotalk.blogspot.com/

Nice family portrait - it's hard to get one with everyone's eyes open, 
especially when you're working with a little one.


-p

PN Stenquist wrote:
You did well in regard to the direction and diffusion of the light. The 
color cast I mentioned in another post is probably due to bouncing off 
the mustard colored wall, if that is what you did. Using a piece of 
white posterboard or a studio umbrella on a stand as a reflector would 
avoid that. But I think you have a great photo here that would be 
enhanced by a slight color tweak.

Paul
On Nov 30, 2008, at 9:25 AM, Matthew Montgomery wrote:



On Nov 29, 2008, at 11:16 PM, Ken Waller wrote:


Cute shot , nice exposure.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f


Thanks all.

Anyone have any tips for this sort of shot with a single flash? I 
pretty mush just focused on trying to find some way to bounce the 
light around. Directional flash was a no go in this situation.





- Original Message - From: Matthew Montgomery 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait


First time taking an indoor, primarily flash lit, family portrait 
for  this year's Christmas card. This was with a K10D, a DA 21mm and 
a 540  flash. To get anything decent I had to bounce the flash off 
the wall  behind the camera. By the way, the blinking red light in 
wireless  remote mode worked well as an entertainment source for the 
kid. :-)

http://electricjunk.smugmug.com/photos/426997365_CCwoz-L.jpg
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Re: Family Christmas Portrait

2008-11-30 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul,
Good suggestion.  I've bought a Lightsphere now, but the 'build your
own' better bounce card is a cheap alternative.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Paul Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Some excellent suggestions from Paul...You can get rid of the yellowish cast
 by adding some blue.  On my monitor it also looks a little dark so I'd have
 to lighten it for my system - YMMV.

 Other options for single flash could include some sort of light modifier on
 the flash itself.  Paul has shown some excellent work using both LumiQuest
 and LightSphere products.

 I've had some good luck going the cheap route using this -

 http://www.abetterbouncecard.com/

 You can also check out David Ziser's blog - he's a quite successful
 photographer in the Cincinnati area and has some good tutorials.

 http://www.digitalprotalk.blogspot.com/

 Nice family portrait - it's hard to get one with everyone's eyes open,
 especially when you're working with a little one.

 -p

 PN Stenquist wrote:

 You did well in regard to the direction and diffusion of the light. The
 color cast I mentioned in another post is probably due to bouncing off the
 mustard colored wall, if that is what you did. Using a piece of white
 posterboard or a studio umbrella on a stand as a reflector would avoid that.
 But I think you have a great photo here that would be enhanced by a slight
 color tweak.
 Paul
 On Nov 30, 2008, at 9:25 AM, Matthew Montgomery wrote:


 On Nov 29, 2008, at 11:16 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

 Cute shot , nice exposure.

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

 Thanks all.

 Anyone have any tips for this sort of shot with a single flash? I pretty
 mush just focused on trying to find some way to bounce the light around.
 Directional flash was a no go in this situation.



 - Original Message - From: Matthew Montgomery
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait


 First time taking an indoor, primarily flash lit, family portrait for
  this year's Christmas card. This was with a K10D, a DA 21mm and a 540
  flash. To get anything decent I had to bounce the flash off the wall
  behind the camera. By the way, the blinking red light in wireless  remote
 mode worked well as an entertainment source for the kid. :-)
 http://electricjunk.smugmug.com/photos/426997365_CCwoz-L.jpg
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Re: Family Christmas Portrait

2008-11-30 Thread Matthew Montgomery


On Nov 30, 2008, at 8:49 AM, PN Stenquist wrote:

You did well in regard to the direction and diffusion of the light.  
The color cast I mentioned in another post is probably due to  
bouncing off the mustard colored wall, if that is what you did.  
Using a piece of white posterboard or a studio umbrella on a stand  
as a reflector would avoid that. But I think you have a great photo  
here that would be enhanced by a slight color tweak.


Thanks Paul.

Yes indeed the bounce was off the same colored wall. I didn't have any  
white poster board on hand but I see what you mean with the slight  
colorcast.




Paul
On Nov 30, 2008, at 9:25 AM, Matthew Montgomery wrote:



On Nov 29, 2008, at 11:16 PM, Ken Waller wrote:


Cute shot , nice exposure.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f


Thanks all.

Anyone have any tips for this sort of shot with a single flash? I  
pretty mush just focused on trying to find some way to bounce the  
light around. Directional flash was a no go in this situation.





- Original Message - From: Matthew Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


Subject: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait


First time taking an indoor, primarily flash lit, family portrait  
for  this year's Christmas card. This was with a K10D, a DA 21mm  
and a 540  flash. To get anything decent I had to bounce the  
flash off the wall  behind the camera. By the way, the blinking  
red light in wireless  remote mode worked well as an  
entertainment source for the kid. :-)

http://electricjunk.smugmug.com/photos/426997365_CCwoz-L.jpg
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Re: Family Christmas Portrait

2008-11-30 Thread Matthew Montgomery


On Nov 30, 2008, at 9:46 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote:

Some excellent suggestions from Paul...You can get rid of the  
yellowish cast by adding some blue.  On my monitor it also looks a  
little dark so I'd have to lighten it for my system - YMMV.


Other options for single flash could include some sort of light  
modifier on the flash itself.  Paul has shown some excellent work  
using both LumiQuest and LightSphere products.


I've had some good luck going the cheap route using this -

http://www.abetterbouncecard.com/


I have read a bit about LightSphere and similar products. Sounds quite  
interesting.


You can also check out David Ziser's blog - he's a quite successful  
photographer in the Cincinnati area and has some good tutorials.


http://www.digitalprotalk.blogspot.com/


Thanks for the links.

Nice family portrait - it's hard to get one with everyone's eyes  
open, especially when you're working with a little one.


No kidding. That was the best of about 108 exposures. :-)




-p

PN Stenquist wrote:
You did well in regard to the direction and diffusion of the light.  
The color cast I mentioned in another post is probably due to  
bouncing off the mustard colored wall, if that is what you did.  
Using a piece of white posterboard or a studio umbrella on a stand  
as a reflector would avoid that. But I think you have a great photo  
here that would be enhanced by a slight color tweak.

Paul
On Nov 30, 2008, at 9:25 AM, Matthew Montgomery wrote:


On Nov 29, 2008, at 11:16 PM, Ken Waller wrote:


Cute shot , nice exposure.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f


Thanks all.

Anyone have any tips for this sort of shot with a single flash? I  
pretty mush just focused on trying to find some way to bounce the  
light around. Directional flash was a no go in this situation.





- Original Message - From: Matthew Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


Subject: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait


First time taking an indoor, primarily flash lit, family  
portrait for  this year's Christmas card. This was with a K10D,  
a DA 21mm and a 540  flash. To get anything decent I had to  
bounce the flash off the wall  behind the camera. By the way,  
the blinking red light in wireless  remote mode worked well as  
an entertainment source for the kid. :-)

http://electricjunk.smugmug.com/photos/426997365_CCwoz-L.jpg
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Re: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait

2008-11-30 Thread Brendan MacRae
Good one, Matt. Thise are tricky shots to get. I have
to set one up with two kids this year. We'll see how
that goes.

-Brendan
--- Matthew Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 First time taking an indoor, primarily flash lit,
 family portrait for  
 this year's Christmas card. This was with a K10D, a
 DA 21mm and a 540  
 flash. To get anything decent I had to bounce the
 flash off the wall  
 behind the camera. By the way, the blinking red
 light in wireless  
 remote mode worked well as an entertainment source
 for the kid. :-)
 

http://electricjunk.smugmug.com/photos/426997365_CCwoz-L.jpg
 
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Re: Family Christmas Portrait

2008-11-30 Thread Rick Womer
Nice shot and a nice looking family!  The lighting of your spouse and progeny 
looks good, but the light on you has that bounced-flash look.

Assuming that you were using wireless flash, was the pop-up flash set to 
master (on) or controller (off)?  It's the second-to-last item on the 
last screen of the K10D Custom menu.  I've found that the combination of 
master mode and RAW produces the best results.

Rick

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--- On Sun, 11/30/08, Matthew Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Thanks all.
 
 Anyone have any tips for this sort of shot with a single
 flash? I pretty mush just focused on trying to find some way
 to bounce the light around. Directional flash was a no go in
 this situation.
 
  
  
  - Original Message - From: Matthew
 Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait
  
  
  First time taking an indoor, primarily flash lit,
 family portrait for  this year's Christmas card. This
 was with a K10D, a DA 21mm and a 540  flash. To get anything
 decent I had to bounce the flash off the wall  behind the
 camera. By the way, the blinking red light in wireless 
 remote mode worked well as an entertainment source for the
 kid. :-)
 
 http://electricjunk.smugmug.com/photos/426997365_CCwoz-L.jpg
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Re: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait

2008-11-30 Thread David J Brooks
Looks like it worked out well.

Nice card shot.

Dave

On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Matthew Montgomery
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 First time taking an indoor, primarily flash lit, family portrait for this
 year's Christmas card. This was with a K10D, a DA 21mm and a 540 flash. To
 get anything decent I had to bounce the flash off the wall behind the
 camera. By the way, the blinking red light in wireless remote mode worked
 well as an entertainment source for the kid. :-)

 http://electricjunk.smugmug.com/photos/426997365_CCwoz-L.jpg

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Re: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait

2008-11-30 Thread Merlin Who
Counting goes very well I see...

Merlin

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 5:35 AM, Joseph McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 117

 Joseph McAllister
 Lots of gear, not much time

 On Nov 29, 2008, at 19:43 , Matthew Montgomery wrote:

 First time taking an indoor, primarily flash lit, family portrait for this
 year's Christmas card. This was with a K10D, a DA 21mm and a 540 flash. To
 get anything decent I had to bounce the flash off the wall behind the
 camera. By the way, the blinking red light in wireless remote mode worked
 well as an entertainment source for the kid. :-)

 http://electricjunk.smugmug.com/photos/426997365_CCwoz-L.jpg


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Re: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait

2008-11-30 Thread Joseph McAllister
Yes, but not as well as I thought I was doing. DIscovered I had  
someone twice this morning, so it's back to 116.


116

Joseph McAllister
Pentaxian

On Nov 30, 2008, at 14:26 , Merlin Who wrote:


Counting goes very well I see...

Merlin

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 5:35 AM, Joseph McAllister  
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117

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Re: Family Christmas Portrait

2008-11-30 Thread John Sessoms

From: Matthew Montgomery
Anyone have any tips for this sort of shot with a single flash? I  
pretty mush just focused on trying to find some way to bounce the  
light around. Directional flash was a no go in this situation.


Yeah, do just what you did there - find a big flat white surface and 
bounce the flash off it. Make the whole room into your soft box.


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PESO: Family Christmas Portrait

2008-11-29 Thread Matthew Montgomery
First time taking an indoor, primarily flash lit, family portrait for  
this year's Christmas card. This was with a K10D, a DA 21mm and a 540  
flash. To get anything decent I had to bounce the flash off the wall  
behind the camera. By the way, the blinking red light in wireless  
remote mode worked well as an entertainment source for the kid. :-)


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Re: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait

2008-11-29 Thread Jack Davis
Well chosen card shot. Should be sent with pride.

Jack


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 From: Matthew Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait
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 Date: Saturday, November 29, 2008, 7:43 PM
 First time taking an indoor, primarily flash lit, family
 portrait for this year's Christmas card. This was with a
 K10D, a DA 21mm and a 540 flash. To get anything decent I
 had to bounce the flash off the wall behind the camera. By
 the way, the blinking red light in wireless remote mode
 worked well as an entertainment source for the kid. :-)
 
 http://electricjunk.smugmug.com/photos/426997365_CCwoz-L.jpg
 
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Re: Family Christmas Portrait

2008-11-29 Thread Christine Aguila
Matthew:  That's really sweet--what a cheerful  handsome looking family you 
have.  Cheers, Christine



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Subject: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait


First time taking an indoor, primarily flash lit, family portrait for 
this year's Christmas card. This was with a K10D, a DA 21mm and a 540 
flash. To get anything decent I had to bounce the flash off the wall 
behind the camera. By the way, the blinking red light in wireless  remote 
mode worked well as an entertainment source for the kid. :-)


http://electricjunk.smugmug.com/photos/426997365_CCwoz-L.jpg

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Re: Family Christmas Portrait

2008-11-29 Thread Ken Waller

Cute shot , nice exposure.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Matthew Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait


First time taking an indoor, primarily flash lit, family portrait for  
this year's Christmas card. This was with a K10D, a DA 21mm and a 540  
flash. To get anything decent I had to bounce the flash off the wall  
behind the camera. By the way, the blinking red light in wireless  
remote mode worked well as an entertainment source for the kid. :-)


http://electricjunk.smugmug.com/photos/426997365_CCwoz-L.jpg

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Re: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait

2008-11-29 Thread Bob Sullivan
Very nice Matthew!
Everybody looks good,
and you don't look too out of breath after running to sit down on the
chair's arm.
We've all done it!  :-)
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Matthew Montgomery
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 First time taking an indoor, primarily flash lit, family portrait for this
 year's Christmas card. This was with a K10D, a DA 21mm and a 540 flash. To
 get anything decent I had to bounce the flash off the wall behind the
 camera. By the way, the blinking red light in wireless remote mode worked
 well as an entertainment source for the kid. :-)

 http://electricjunk.smugmug.com/photos/426997365_CCwoz-L.jpg

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Re: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait

2008-11-29 Thread Joseph McAllister

117

Joseph McAllister
Lots of gear, not much time

On Nov 29, 2008, at 19:43 , Matthew Montgomery wrote:

First time taking an indoor, primarily flash lit, family portrait  
for this year's Christmas card. This was with a K10D, a DA 21mm and  
a 540 flash. To get anything decent I had to bounce the flash off  
the wall behind the camera. By the way, the blinking red light in  
wireless remote mode worked well as an entertainment source for the  
kid. :-)


http://electricjunk.smugmug.com/photos/426997365_CCwoz-L.jpg



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