Re: GESO - my 12 for 2012
Most memorable portraiture, Doug. Yours are photographs that require time to be spent looking at them! On 12/28/2012 6:00 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: year-end survey of representative work: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/dL2uXjoYvRj enjoy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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one word: Yum especially... no nevermind, can't really do especially ann On 1/3/2013 23:36, Rob Studdert wrote: On 29 December 2012 03:00, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: year-end survey of representative work: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/dL2uXjoYvRj enjoy I did, a lovely set of images, all very Doug. I think I've forgotten how to see in mono-chrome, must revisit sometime soon, and like you when I'm not traveling or otherwise busy my son tends to be my most photographed subject, quite understandable ;) Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 29 December 2012 03:00, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: year-end survey of representative work: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/dL2uXjoYvRj enjoy I did, a lovely set of images, all very Doug. I think I've forgotten how to see in mono-chrome, must revisit sometime soon, and like you when I'm not traveling or otherwise busy my son tends to be my most photographed subject, quite understandable ;) Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 28 December 2012 16:00, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: year-end survey of representative work: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/dL2uXjoYvRj enjoy A nicely coherent portfolio Doug. I love the BW treatment. Thanks for showing them. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Love the twirly dress one, Doug. The whole gallery is amazing. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au Sent: December 29, 2012 12/29/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO - my 12 for 2012 9 made me very happy months ago. It still does. Have a levitation-filled new year, listmeister On 29/12/2012 3:00 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: year-end survey of representative work: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/dL2uXjoYvRj enjoy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well, the image of the Civil War re-enacters certainly has a retro look G, but it don't see it in any of the others. BTW, I really like the framing and composition of that shot! The portraits are very strong and vivid, and certainly belong in the collection of your best of the year. You caught the action exceptionally well in the images of the girl (your daughter?) spinning, skipping rope, and jumping on the pole. That is a collection of which you can justly be very proud. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: On 12/31/12 2:53 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Dec 31, 2012, at 7:22 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: On 12/29/12 1:22 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Dec 28, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: year-end survey of representative work: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/dL2uXjoYvRj Very nice. Some of them look downright film like, though it might just be what I can only describe as retro composition. Thanks, Larry. I'm curious which one you thank are film-like. Also: can you explain retro composition? Going back and looking, I'd say 3 and 6 are the most film like, 4 also has some of it. I suspect that it is a case of exposure issues looking more like the weaknesses of film than the weaknesses of digital. um, thank you? As to retro composition, some of the photos have the feel of photos taken when I was much younger. Looking through, 3,6,7. I can't say what makes them look like they might have been taken forty years ago. I suspect that there are two factors at play. One is that any activity where you make aesthetic choices will have styles and fashions. People do what they see/hear their social circle doing, because that is what seems right. A corollary to this would be, if you want to take better pictures, look at better pictures. I think that another factor is that the care and thought that goes into a photograph is generally in proportion to the cost, in money and in effort, of taking that photograph. Also, when each frame cost a perceptible amount of pocket change (click, that cost as much as a cup of coffee), the people being photographed took a bit more care either because they didn't want to screw up the photo and cost the photographer extra money, or because they knew that they would n't get a second chance and if they looked dorky, that's how they'd be memorialized. wow, you could have just said you didn't like them. But thanks for typing it out. I'm not saying that people consciously thought of these things, or that everyone did, but over time, photos have become far less formal. People don't get dressed up every time someone is going to take a photo of them. I suspect you don't have a free-spirited five-year-old girl around the house. Rather than me saying to her to get dressed up so I can take some photos, it's that I notice she is being a princess so I get my camera. It could be entertaining to do a series of anachronistic photos. Have a couple of women dress up in 60's cocktail party fashion and do photos with them holding the camera at arms length and making duck face. Get kids dressed up in 1980's punk, and pose them like a photo from the 1880's. Dress a couple of people up like hippies, in front of a psychedelic VW bus, and HDR the photo past all bounds of taste and decency. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Nice pictures, and I particularly liked the unmistakeable personal style; they cohered. -T On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: year-end survey of representative work: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/dL2uXjoYvRj enjoy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 12/31/12 9:32 PM, Larry Colen wrote: That wasn't meant as any sort of quality judgement. When you push film or digital beyond their comfort zone, they go nonlinear in different ways. It is these ways that give the images their character, rather than just being a matter of fact documentation of the scene. Most of the art of the technical side of photography, in my not at all humble opinion, comes from overcoming, or working with these issues. ah, I see. I don't think in terms of film or digital, just in terms of getting the shot I want, and I think pure record-keeping is pointless; I want to show what it feels like to me to see what's going on. As to retro composition, some of the photos have the feel of photos taken when I was much younger. Looking through, 3,6,7. I can't say what makes them look like they might have been taken forty years ago. I suspect that there are two factors at play. One is that any activity where you make aesthetic choices will have styles and fashions. People do what they see/hear their social circle doing, because that is what seems right. A corollary to this would be, if you want to take better pictures, look at better pictures. I think that another factor is that the care and thought that goes into a photograph is generally in proportion to the cost, in money and in effort, of taking that photograph. Also, when each frame cost a perceptible amount of pocket change (click, that cost as much as a cup of coffee), the people being photographed took a bit more care either because they didn't want to screw up the photo and cost the photographer extra money, or because they knew that t hey would n't get a second chance and if they looked dorky, that's how they'd be memorialized. wow, you could have just said you didn't like them. But thanks for typing it out. Again, that has nothing to do with these photos. I'm just trying to explain why I think that people presented themselves differently for photos forty years ago than they do now. It used to be that getting a photo taken was almost a special occasion, in the same way that people would dress up to fly someplace on an airliner. It's all a lot more casual now. Certainly cameras were not as ubiquitous as they are now, and a bowl of cereal didn't constitute a Kodak Moment, so in that way pictures were more special. They had significance, even those that were more casual, because they existed. I have a photo of my younger sister and me when I was maybe seven and she was around four. It's not a great photo aesthetically, but it's probably the only photo taken of us together at those ages. Today, when everything is captured, it's more important to me to realize the significance of moments and try to make photos that express that significance. I'm not saying that people consciously thought of these things, or that everyone did, but over time, photos have become far less formal. People don't get dressed up every time someone is going to take a photo of them. I suspect you don't have a free-spirited five-year-old girl around the house. Rather than me saying to her to get dressed up so I can take some photos, it's that I notice she is being a princess so I get my camera. Yes, and so many of the less formal photos from when I was a kid were when parents were doing just that. That may also have contributed to the nostalgic feel of your photos. They reminded me more of the photos I saw when I was a kid, rather than the photos, casual or portrait, than I so often see now. I *liked* the nostalgic feel to your photos. It wasn't anything I consciously thought about when I first saw them, I just had the gut feeling that they reminded me more of photos from my childhood than the vast majority of photos that I see now. Sorry I misunderstood. I get what you're saying now, and I think we're somewhat in agreement. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jan 1, 2013, at 5:53 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: Yes, and so many of the less formal photos from when I was a kid were when parents were doing just that. That may also have contributed to the nostalgic feel of your photos. They reminded me more of the photos I saw when I was a kid, rather than the photos, casual or portrait, than I so often see now. I *liked* the nostalgic feel to your photos. It wasn't anything I consciously thought about when I first saw them, I just had the gut feeling that they reminded me more of photos from my childhood than the vast majority of photos that I see now. Sorry I misunderstood. I get what you're saying now, and I think we're somewhat in agreement. Glad to hear. You can rest assured that if I intend to insult you, I'll do my best to remove any doubt as to my goal. Upon further reflection, perhaps what makes your photos retro is the combination of casual and extra care, if that makes any sense. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 1/1/13 9:25 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Jan 1, 2013, at 5:53 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: Yes, and so many of the less formal photos from when I was a kid were when parents were doing just that. That may also have contributed to the nostalgic feel of your photos. They reminded me more of the photos I saw when I was a kid, rather than the photos, casual or portrait, than I so often see now. I *liked* the nostalgic feel to your photos. It wasn't anything I consciously thought about when I first saw them, I just had the gut feeling that they reminded me more of photos from my childhood than the vast majority of photos that I see now. Sorry I misunderstood. I get what you're saying now, and I think we're somewhat in agreement. Glad to hear. You can rest assured that if I intend to insult you, I'll do my best to remove any doubt as to my goal. Upon further reflection, perhaps what makes your photos retro is the combination of casual and extra care, if that makes any sense. It does, and sorry again; I've prepping for an intense ten-day writing workshop and getting a little jumpy. That I'm breaking down the first chapter of a manuscript seemingly typed by ten different illiterates isn't helping. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jan 1, 2013, at 7:12 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: On 1/1/13 9:25 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Jan 1, 2013, at 5:53 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: Yes, and so many of the less formal photos from when I was a kid were when parents were doing just that. That may also have contributed to the nostalgic feel of your photos. They reminded me more of the photos I saw when I was a kid, rather than the photos, casual or portrait, than I so often see now. I *liked* the nostalgic feel to your photos. It wasn't anything I consciously thought about when I first saw them, I just had the gut feeling that they reminded me more of photos from my childhood than the vast majority of photos that I see now. Sorry I misunderstood. I get what you're saying now, and I think we're somewhat in agreement. Glad to hear. You can rest assured that if I intend to insult you, I'll do my best to remove any doubt as to my goal. Upon further reflection, perhaps what makes your photos retro is the combination of casual and extra care, if that makes any sense. It does, and sorry again; No offense taken. I've prepping for an intense ten-day writing workshop and getting a little jumpy. That I'm breaking down the first chapter of a manuscript seemingly typed by ten different illiterates isn't helping. The PDML is writing a book? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 12/28/12 4:21 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: All great, Doug. #5 (twirling) is my fave. On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Doug Brewerd...@alphoto.com wrote: year-end survey of representative work: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/dL2uXjoYvRj enjoy Thank you. Bruce. That's a good choice. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 12/28/12 6:55 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Pogo Stick is how every young girl should feel all through childhood--and beyond! But the entire set is quite lovely. Great work! Cheers, Christine On Dec 28, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Doug Brewerd...@alphoto.com wrote: year-end survey of representative work: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/dL2uXjoYvRj enjoy Thanks, Christine. As you know, I have dozens of Nat Jumping shots. This one just feels the best. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 12/29/12 12:34 AM, David Mann wrote: On Dec 29, 2012, at 5:00 AM, Doug Brewerd...@alphoto.com wrote: year-end survey of representative work: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/dL2uXjoYvRj Lovely, really enjoyed these. I can't pick a favourite because they're all so good. Cheers, Dave Thanks much, David. Very kind of you. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 12/29/12 1:22 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Dec 28, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: year-end survey of representative work: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/dL2uXjoYvRj Very nice. Some of them look downright film like, though it might just be what I can only describe as retro composition. Thanks, Larry. I'm curious which one you thank are film-like. Also: can you explain retro composition? Number 8, what seems to be some NCWA folks, is a wonderfully evocative composition. Almost dadaesque. Just having some fun out at the local battlefield. It's great when the elements line up like that. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 12/29/12 4:05 AM, Derby Chang wrote: 9 made me very happy months ago. It still does. Have a levitation-filled new year, listmeister On 29/12/2012 3:00 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: year-end survey of representative work: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/dL2uXjoYvRj enjoy I appreciate it, Derbs. I hope you get to float, too. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Superior work. The set defines a style in terms of both vision and rendering. Lovely. Paul On Dec 31, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: On 12/28/12 4:21 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: All great, Doug. #5 (twirling) is my fave. On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Doug Brewerd...@alphoto.com wrote: year-end survey of representative work: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/dL2uXjoYvRj enjoy Thank you. Bruce. That's a good choice. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Doug Brewer On 12/29/12 1:22 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Dec 28, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: year-end survey of representative work: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/dL2uXjoYvRj Very nice. Some of them look downright film like, though it might just be what I can only describe as retro composition. Thanks, Larry. I'm curious which one you thank are film-like. Also: can you explain retro composition? You didn't ask me, but I'm going to reply anyway. I think the pictures of your daughter skipping and pogoing have a very Egglestoney feel to the composition Number 8, what seems to be some NCWA folks, is a wonderfully evocative composition. Almost dadaesque. A dada is a rocking horse... Just having some fun out at the local battlefield. It's great when the elements line up like that. ...that's a horse's ass. They're all great. Some of them wouldn't look out of place in a Magnum portfolio. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 12/31/12 10:24 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Superior work. The set defines a style in terms of both vision and rendering. Lovely. Paul thanks much, Paul. It's handy having a cute little girl around, innit? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 12/31/12 10:35 AM, Bob W wrote: You didn't ask me, but I'm going to reply anyway. I think the pictures of your daughter skipping and pogoing have a very Egglestoney feel to the composition careful, Bob. That's a loaded accusation around the PDML. Thank you. Number 8, what seems to be some NCWA folks, is a wonderfully evocative composition. Almost dadaesque. A dada is a rocking horse... Just having some fun out at the local battlefield. It's great when the elements line up like that. ...that's a horse's ass. yes, Grant was kind of a pain. They're all great. Some of them wouldn't look out of place in a Magnum portfolio. Magnum PI, maybe B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 12/31/12 10:22 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: I'm curious which one you thank are film-like. Also: can you explain retro composition? in case you don't have your Doug pre-coffee decoder ring out, this was supposed to say I'm curious which ones you think are film-like... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 12/28/12 2:04 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Some great portraits. I especially like her on a pogo stick -- nice timing. These year end summary thing of 12 photos must be something PDML started when I was gone. Drat, already showed all my photos. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 12/28/2012 8:00:38 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, d...@alphoto.com writes: year-end survey of representative work: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/dL2uXjoYvRj enjoy Thanks, Marnie. Nothing wrong with showing them again. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 28/12/12, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed: year-end survey of representative work: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/dL2uXjoYvRj enjoy Enjoyed thoroughly! Actually superb. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Yes #8. I can almost identify the players. General Grant with the cigar and General Custer with the little feather in his cap. The framing between the horse and dark silhouette on the right is excellent, and the three riflemen in the distance add dimension. It is an excellent composition, excellent photograph, and a reference to those times. (It could have been from the battlefield, but I don't think Grant Custer got along.) Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: On 12/29/12 1:22 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Dec 28, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: year-end survey of representative work: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/dL2uXjoYvRj Very nice. Some of them look downright film like, though it might just be what I can only describe as retro composition. Thanks, Larry. I'm curious which one you thank are film-like. Also: can you explain retro composition? Number 8, what seems to be some NCWA folks, is a wonderfully evocative composition. Almost dadaesque. Just having some fun out at the local battlefield. It's great when the elements line up like that. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 31, 2012, at 7:22 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: On 12/29/12 1:22 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Dec 28, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: year-end survey of representative work: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/dL2uXjoYvRj Very nice. Some of them look downright film like, though it might just be what I can only describe as retro composition. Thanks, Larry. I'm curious which one you thank are film-like. Also: can you explain retro composition? Going back and looking, I'd say 3 and 6 are the most film like, 4 also has some of it. I suspect that it is a case of exposure issues looking more like the weaknesses of film than the weaknesses of digital. As to retro composition, some of the photos have the feel of photos taken when I was much younger. Looking through, 3,6, 7. I can't say what makes them look like they might have been taken forty years ago. I suspect that there are two factors at play. One is that any activity where you make aesthetic choices will have styles and fashions. People do what they see/hear their social circle doing, because that is what seems right. A corollary to this would be, if you want to take better pictures, look at better pictures. I think that another factor is that the care and thought that goes into a photograph is generally in proportion to the cost, in money and in effort, of taking that photograph. Also, when each frame cost a perceptible amount of pocket change (click, that cost as much as a cup of coffee), the people being photographed took a bit more care either because they didn't want to screw up the photo and cost the photographer extra money, or because they knew that they wouldn't get a second chance and if they looked dorky, that's how they'd be memorialized. I'm not saying that people consciously thought of these things, or that everyone did, but over time, photos have become far less formal. People don't get dressed up every time someone is going to take a photo of them. It could be entertaining to do a series of anachronistic photos. Have a couple of women dress up in 60's cocktail party fashion and do photos with them holding the camera at arms length and making duck face. Get kids dressed up in 1980's punk, and pose them like a photo from the 1880's. Dress a couple of people up like hippies, in front of a psychedelic VW bus, and HDR the photo past all bounds of taste and decency. Number 8, what seems to be some NCWA folks, is a wonderfully evocative composition. Almost dadaesque. Just having some fun out at the local battlefield. It's great when the elements line up like that. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 12/31/12 2:53 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Dec 31, 2012, at 7:22 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: On 12/29/12 1:22 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Dec 28, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: year-end survey of representative work: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/dL2uXjoYvRj Very nice. Some of them look downright film like, though it might just be what I can only describe as retro composition. Thanks, Larry. I'm curious which one you thank are film-like. Also: can you explain retro composition? Going back and looking, I'd say 3 and 6 are the most film like, 4 also has some of it. I suspect that it is a case of exposure issues looking more like the weaknesses of film than the weaknesses of digital. um, thank you? As to retro composition, some of the photos have the feel of photos taken when I was much younger. Looking through, 3,6,7. I can't say what makes them look like they might have been taken forty years ago. I suspect that there are two factors at play. One is that any activity where you make aesthetic choices will have styles and fashions. People do what they see/hear their social circle doing, because that is what seems right. A corollary to this would be, if you want to take better pictures, look at better pictures. I think that another factor is that the care and thought that goes into a photograph is generally in proportion to the cost, in money and in effort, of taking that photograph. Also, when each frame cost a perceptible amount of pocket change (click, that cost as much as a cup of coffee), the people being photographed took a bit more care either because they didn't want to screw up the photo and cost the photographer extra money, or because they knew that they would n't get a second chance and if they looked dorky, that's how they'd be memorialized. wow, you could have just said you didn't like them. But thanks for typing it out. I'm not saying that people consciously thought of these things, or that everyone did, but over time, photos have become far less formal. People don't get dressed up every time someone is going to take a photo of them. I suspect you don't have a free-spirited five-year-old girl around the house. Rather than me saying to her to get dressed up so I can take some photos, it's that I notice she is being a princess so I get my camera. It could be entertaining to do a series of anachronistic photos. Have a couple of women dress up in 60's cocktail party fashion and do photos with them holding the camera at arms length and making duck face. Get kids dressed up in 1980's punk, and pose them like a photo from the 1880's. Dress a couple of people up like hippies, in front of a psychedelic VW bus, and HDR the photo past all bounds of taste and decency. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - my 12 for 2012
On Dec 31, 2012, at 6:21 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: On 12/31/12 2:53 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Dec 31, 2012, at 7:22 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: On 12/29/12 1:22 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Dec 28, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: year-end survey of representative work: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/dL2uXjoYvRj Very nice. Some of them look downright film like, though it might just be what I can only describe as retro composition. Thanks, Larry. I'm curious which one you thank are film-like. Also: can you explain retro composition? Going back and looking, I'd say 3 and 6 are the most film like, 4 also has some of it. I suspect that it is a case of exposure issues looking more like the weaknesses of film than the weaknesses of digital. um, thank you? That wasn't meant as any sort of quality judgement. When you push film or digital beyond their comfort zone, they go nonlinear in different ways. It is these ways that give the images their character, rather than just being a matter of fact documentation of the scene. Most of the art of the technical side of photography, in my not at all humble opinion, comes from overcoming, or working with these issues. As to retro composition, some of the photos have the feel of photos taken when I was much younger. Looking through, 3,6,7. I can't say what makes them look like they might have been taken forty years ago. I suspect that there are two factors at play. One is that any activity where you make aesthetic choices will have styles and fashions. People do what they see/hear their social circle doing, because that is what seems right. A corollary to this would be, if you want to take better pictures, look at better pictures. I think that another factor is that the care and thought that goes into a photograph is generally in proportion to the cost, in money and in effort, of taking that photograph. Also, when each frame cost a perceptible amount of pocket change (click, that cost as much as a cup of coffee), the people being photographed took a bit more care either because they didn't want to screw up the photo and cost the photographer extra money, or because they knew that t hey would n't get a second chance and if they looked dorky, that's how they'd be memorialized. wow, you could have just said you didn't like them. But thanks for typing it out. Again, that has nothing to do with these photos. I'm just trying to explain why I think that people presented themselves differently for photos forty years ago than they do now. It used to be that getting a photo taken was almost a special occasion, in the same way that people would dress up to fly someplace on an airliner. It's all a lot more casual now. I'm not saying that people consciously thought of these things, or that everyone did, but over time, photos have become far less formal. People don't get dressed up every time someone is going to take a photo of them. I suspect you don't have a free-spirited five-year-old girl around the house. Rather than me saying to her to get dressed up so I can take some photos, it's that I notice she is being a princess so I get my camera. Yes, and so many of the less formal photos from when I was a kid were when parents were doing just that. That may also have contributed to the nostalgic feel of your photos. They reminded me more of the photos I saw when I was a kid, rather than the photos, casual or portrait, than I so often see now. I *liked* the nostalgic feel to your photos. It wasn't anything I consciously thought about when I first saw them, I just had the gut feeling that they reminded me more of photos from my childhood than the vast majority of photos that I see now. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - my 12 for 2012
9 made me very happy months ago. It still does. Have a levitation-filled new year, listmeister On 29/12/2012 3:00 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: year-end survey of representative work: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/dL2uXjoYvRj enjoy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I like number 13 Dave On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: year-end survey of representative work: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/dL2uXjoYvRj enjoy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Seriously, nice set Doug, well worth the top 12 Dave On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: year-end survey of representative work: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/dL2uXjoYvRj enjoy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 12/28/12 11:04 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Seriously, nice set Doug, well worth the top 12 Dave thanks, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Some great portraits. I especially like her on a pogo stick -- nice timing. These year end summary thing of 12 photos must be something PDML started when I was gone. Drat, already showed all my photos. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 12/28/2012 8:00:38 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, d...@alphoto.com writes: year-end survey of representative work: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/dL2uXjoYvRj enjoy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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All great, Doug. #5 (twirling) is my fave. On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: year-end survey of representative work: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/dL2uXjoYvRj enjoy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Pogo Stick is how every young girl should feel all through childhood--and beyond! But the entire set is quite lovely. Great work! Cheers, Christine On Dec 28, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: year-end survey of representative work: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/dL2uXjoYvRj enjoy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 29, 2012, at 5:00 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: year-end survey of representative work: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/dL2uXjoYvRj Lovely, really enjoyed these. I can't pick a favourite because they're all so good. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 28, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: year-end survey of representative work: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/dL2uXjoYvRj Very nice. Some of them look downright film like, though it might just be what I can only describe as retro composition. Number 8, what seems to be some NCWA folks, is a wonderfully evocative composition. Almost dadaesque. enjoy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
