Re: Italy in May
On 27 Apr 2014, at 06:14, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 4:56 AM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: I can't help with your questions because shamefully I've only been to Italy a couple of times. If I were in Abruzzo I would make an effort to go to l'Aquila d'Abruzzo. http://www.italia.it/en/discover-italy/abruzzo/laquila.html Especially Scanno, which has some great photographic pedigree: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scanno,_Abruzzo http://www.magnumphotos.com/C.aspx?VP3=SearchResult_VPageVBID=2K1HZOET2MPYKSMLS=1RW=1017RH=771 http://ilcentro.gelocal.it/foto-e-video/2013/04/08/fotogalleria/scanno-vista-dal-grande-fotografo-mario-giacomelli-1.6846260 Thanks for the links, Bob. I don't know if I'll have enough time to see both, but the HCB photos of Scanno have me seriously intrigued. It's a 5 hour walk from Bugnara... Maybe I should get a bicycle. That is always true according to the n+1 formula. Which applies equally to cameras and lenses. Yesterday I asked an Italian friend about Abruzzo. She said it is very bleak, and recommended Le Marche instead, which she says has the most beautiful landscape she's ever seen. Also it is looked after properly by all the English people who live there, not like the Italians. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Italy in May
I think Ravenna is also rather well cared of, by Italians born and living here. Huh? English people in Le Marche? Sure someone has to live there, but nothing prominent for sure. Never met one there. I agree that Romagna (where I live) and Le Marche are in better shape, cleaner and better looked after than other areas in Italy. Dario -Messaggio originale- From: Bob W-PDML Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 8:50 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Italy in May On 27 Apr 2014, at 06:14, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 4:56 AM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: I can't help with your questions because shamefully I've only been to Italy a couple of times. If I were in Abruzzo I would make an effort to go to l'Aquila d'Abruzzo. http://www.italia.it/en/discover-italy/abruzzo/laquila.html Especially Scanno, which has some great photographic pedigree: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scanno,_Abruzzo http://www.magnumphotos.com/C.aspx?VP3=SearchResult_VPageVBID=2K1HZOET2MPYKSMLS=1RW=1017RH=771 http://ilcentro.gelocal.it/foto-e-video/2013/04/08/fotogalleria/scanno-vista-dal-grande-fotografo-mario-giacomelli-1.6846260 Thanks for the links, Bob. I don't know if I'll have enough time to see both, but the HCB photos of Scanno have me seriously intrigued. It's a 5 hour walk from Bugnara... Maybe I should get a bicycle. That is always true according to the n+1 formula. Which applies equally to cameras and lenses. Yesterday I asked an Italian friend about Abruzzo. She said it is very bleak, and recommended Le Marche instead, which she says has the most beautiful landscape she's ever seen. Also it is looked after properly by all the English people who live there, not like the Italians. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2014.0.4570 / Database dei virus: 3920/7401 - Data di rilascio: 26/04/2014 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Italy in May
:o) her words - not mine! I have no idea. On 27 Apr 2014, at 08:11, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: I think Ravenna is also rather well cared of, by Italians born and living here. Huh? English people in Le Marche? Sure someone has to live there, but nothing prominent for sure. Never met one there. I agree that Romagna (where I live) and Le Marche are in better shape, cleaner and better looked after than other areas in Italy. Dario -Messaggio originale- From: Bob W-PDML Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 8:50 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Italy in May On 27 Apr 2014, at 06:14, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 4:56 AM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: I can't help with your questions because shamefully I've only been to Italy a couple of times. If I were in Abruzzo I would make an effort to go to l'Aquila d'Abruzzo. http://www.italia.it/en/discover-italy/abruzzo/laquila.html Especially Scanno, which has some great photographic pedigree: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scanno,_Abruzzo http://www.magnumphotos.com/C.aspx?VP3=SearchResult_VPageVBID=2K1HZOET2MPYKSMLS=1RW=1017RH=771 http://ilcentro.gelocal.it/foto-e-video/2013/04/08/fotogalleria/scanno-vista-dal-grande-fotografo-mario-giacomelli-1.6846260 Thanks for the links, Bob. I don't know if I'll have enough time to see both, but the HCB photos of Scanno have me seriously intrigued. It's a 5 hour walk from Bugnara... Maybe I should get a bicycle. That is always true according to the n+1 formula. Which applies equally to cameras and lenses. Yesterday I asked an Italian friend about Abruzzo. She said it is very bleak, and recommended Le Marche instead, which she says has the most beautiful landscape she's ever seen. Also it is looked after properly by all the English people who live there, not like the Italians. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2014.0.4570 / Database dei virus: 3920/7401 - Data di rilascio: 26/04/2014 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Italy in May
Hi John, I'm going to ask a few friends in that area and will get back soon with some advice. Perhaps we can meet somewhere during your stay in Italy, as I live in Ravenna, on the Adriatic coast (north of Abruzzo and south of Venice). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ravenna Later, Dario -Messaggio originale- From: John Celio Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 1:46 AM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Italy in May I'm going to be in Italy next month, and I want to visit the towns my grandparents came from, which are both in the Abruzzo region: Bugnara and Giulianova. Hopefully our resident Italian PDMLers can help me with these questions about the region: - I'm hoping I can travel around Abruzzo by train and/or bus rather than rent a car. Is this feasible? I normally use Google Maps for getting around, but it doesn't show mass transit options in Italy and I'm not sure where to look for accurate maps and timetables. - How difficult is it to find hostels in the cities and towns of Abruzzo? - My parents visited the region a couple decades ago and said there was a big problem with pickpocketing and bag slashing. Is this still the case? What can I do to protect myself and my belongings? - My parents knew some Italian and were able to converse with people when necessary. I don't know any Italian. Will this be a big problem? I know a little Spanish, but I doubt that will help at all... - I'm told I have distant cousins in Giulianova and Bugnara, but none of them speak English. Would it be worth trying to meet them, or would it just be awkward because of the language barrier? - What are some hidden gems to see in Abruzzo? I'm thinking churches/cathedrals, museums, historical sites, beautiful landscapes, local landmarks, bars/restaurants, and other things like those. My itinerary starts in Milan, and then I'm probably going to go to Venice and Florence for a couple days each before heading south. After Abruzzo I'll head to Rome to fly home. Grazie, John -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2014.0.4570 / Database dei virus: 3920/7394 - Data di rilascio: 25/04/2014 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Italy in May
I can't help with your questions because shamefully I've only been to Italy a couple of times. If I were in Abruzzo I would make an effort to go to l'Aquila d'Abruzzo. http://www.italia.it/en/discover-italy/abruzzo/laquila.html Especially Scanno, which has some great photographic pedigree: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scanno,_Abruzzo http://www.magnumphotos.com/C.aspx?VP3=SearchResult_VPageVBID=2K1HZOET2MPYKSMLS=1RW=1017RH=771 http://ilcentro.gelocal.it/foto-e-video/2013/04/08/fotogalleria/scanno-vista-dal-grande-fotografo-mario-giacomelli-1.6846260 B On 26 Apr 2014, at 00:47, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote: I'm going to be in Italy next month, and I want to visit the towns my grandparents came from, which are both in the Abruzzo region: Bugnara and Giulianova. Hopefully our resident Italian PDMLers can help me with these questions about the region: - I'm hoping I can travel around Abruzzo by train and/or bus rather than rent a car. Is this feasible? I normally use Google Maps for getting around, but it doesn't show mass transit options in Italy and I'm not sure where to look for accurate maps and timetables. - How difficult is it to find hostels in the cities and towns of Abruzzo? - My parents visited the region a couple decades ago and said there was a big problem with pickpocketing and bag slashing. Is this still the case? What can I do to protect myself and my belongings? - My parents knew some Italian and were able to converse with people when necessary. I don't know any Italian. Will this be a big problem? I know a little Spanish, but I doubt that will help at all... - I'm told I have distant cousins in Giulianova and Bugnara, but none of them speak English. Would it be worth trying to meet them, or would it just be awkward because of the language barrier? - What are some hidden gems to see in Abruzzo? I'm thinking churches/cathedrals, museums, historical sites, beautiful landscapes, local landmarks, bars/restaurants, and other things like those. My itinerary starts in Milan, and then I'm probably going to go to Venice and Florence for a couple days each before heading south. After Abruzzo I'll head to Rome to fly home. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 7:34 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Will you be able to make use of your cell phone while over there? If so, why not try a language translation app. Given the technology today, one could possibly communicate pretty decently. Yes, I have T-Mobile and my plan includes free international data roaming. I'm told it's not very fast, though, so I wasn't going to try to rely on it, especially in the smaller towns. I need to find a simple phrasebook or something. John -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Italy in May
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 4:56 AM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: I'm going to ask a few friends in that area and will get back soon with some advice. Perhaps we can meet somewhere during your stay in Italy, as I live in Ravenna, on the Adriatic coast (north of Abruzzo and south of Venice). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ravenna That would be cool! I took another look at the rail maps earlier and I'm probably going to skip Florence and just stick to the Adriatic coast, so I'd be happy to meet up wherever it's convenient and there's a train station. John -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Italy in May
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 4:56 AM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: I can't help with your questions because shamefully I've only been to Italy a couple of times. If I were in Abruzzo I would make an effort to go to l'Aquila d'Abruzzo. http://www.italia.it/en/discover-italy/abruzzo/laquila.html Especially Scanno, which has some great photographic pedigree: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scanno,_Abruzzo http://www.magnumphotos.com/C.aspx?VP3=SearchResult_VPageVBID=2K1HZOET2MPYKSMLS=1RW=1017RH=771 http://ilcentro.gelocal.it/foto-e-video/2013/04/08/fotogalleria/scanno-vista-dal-grande-fotografo-mario-giacomelli-1.6846260 Thanks for the links, Bob. I don't know if I'll have enough time to see both, but the HCB photos of Scanno have me seriously intrigued. It's a 5 hour walk from Bugnara... Maybe I should get a bicycle. John -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Italy in May
I'm going to be in Italy next month, and I want to visit the towns my grandparents came from, which are both in the Abruzzo region: Bugnara and Giulianova. Hopefully our resident Italian PDMLers can help me with these questions about the region: - I'm hoping I can travel around Abruzzo by train and/or bus rather than rent a car. Is this feasible? I normally use Google Maps for getting around, but it doesn't show mass transit options in Italy and I'm not sure where to look for accurate maps and timetables. - How difficult is it to find hostels in the cities and towns of Abruzzo? - My parents visited the region a couple decades ago and said there was a big problem with pickpocketing and bag slashing. Is this still the case? What can I do to protect myself and my belongings? - My parents knew some Italian and were able to converse with people when necessary. I don't know any Italian. Will this be a big problem? I know a little Spanish, but I doubt that will help at all... - I'm told I have distant cousins in Giulianova and Bugnara, but none of them speak English. Would it be worth trying to meet them, or would it just be awkward because of the language barrier? - What are some hidden gems to see in Abruzzo? I'm thinking churches/cathedrals, museums, historical sites, beautiful landscapes, local landmarks, bars/restaurants, and other things like those. My itinerary starts in Milan, and then I'm probably going to go to Venice and Florence for a couple days each before heading south. After Abruzzo I'll head to Rome to fly home. Grazie, John -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Italy in May
Sounds wonderful, John! Will you be able to make use of your cell phone while over there? If so, why not try a language translation app. Given the technology today, one could possibly communicate pretty decently. Here are some iOS options: http://www.imore.com/best-translation-apps-iphone-itranslate-voice-ivoice-google-translate-and-more https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/translate-voice-free/id539941258?mt=8 Hope that helps. On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 6:46 PM, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote: I'm going to be in Italy next month, and I want to visit the towns my grandparents came from, which are both in the Abruzzo region: Bugnara and Giulianova. Hopefully our resident Italian PDMLers can help me with these questions about the region: - I'm hoping I can travel around Abruzzo by train and/or bus rather than rent a car. Is this feasible? I normally use Google Maps for getting around, but it doesn't show mass transit options in Italy and I'm not sure where to look for accurate maps and timetables. - How difficult is it to find hostels in the cities and towns of Abruzzo? - My parents visited the region a couple decades ago and said there was a big problem with pickpocketing and bag slashing. Is this still the case? What can I do to protect myself and my belongings? - My parents knew some Italian and were able to converse with people when necessary. I don't know any Italian. Will this be a big problem? I know a little Spanish, but I doubt that will help at all... - I'm told I have distant cousins in Giulianova and Bugnara, but none of them speak English. Would it be worth trying to meet them, or would it just be awkward because of the language barrier? - What are some hidden gems to see in Abruzzo? I'm thinking churches/cathedrals, museums, historical sites, beautiful landscapes, local landmarks, bars/restaurants, and other things like those. My itinerary starts in Milan, and then I'm probably going to go to Venice and Florence for a couple days each before heading south. After Abruzzo I'll head to Rome to fly home. Grazie, John -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
