Jumping ship (Was Digital SLR )
I can't wait for people to start jumping ship and selling all their wonderful old Pentax gear. Imagine the bargains when people are willing to sell their souls for a gazillion dollar digital SLR Christian Cotty wrote: I, too, am in similar mode. If we get an anouncement with a reasonable date, I'll wait. If it's a vague 'plans are still in the pipeline' I'm afraid that's it! A Canon D30 would suit my needs well. I'll hang onto one Pentax combo for film portraits (LX + drive + battery + 85A*, and maybe the Tok 28-70), but everything else will go, including MX and other lenses. I'll be sad, but at the end of the day, the equipment is a means to an end... (Heretic!) Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Jumping ship (Was Digital SLR )
Christian, You'll be the first to know if I decide to sell any of my kit! Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't 'sell my soul' and I certainly won't be expecting to pay a gazillion dollars. I am ready to pre-order if the MX-D comes in at D30 money. Maybe a bit beyond, Fuji S1 territory. Beyond that, I'm more cautious. This is assuming that it's a full-frame image sensor. What if it's 2/3rds size? And for more money? Depends on the spec, really. Like someone said, it's the cost in switching glass, and of possibly lowering standards in that glass... I think that in wanting to go fully digital one has to make assumptions and choices - not always based on practicalities! I mean, if I wanted a cost-effective method of 'going digital' then why don't I just buy an all-in-one high-spec digi camera like the Olympus E-XX etc? It would work fine as a standalone unit, and I could still shoot film on Pentax. My trouble is that I'm too used to 35mm film SLR form-factor. I like the shape of the bodies, with grips, and nice big lenses to hold - it all works exceedingly well, and I don't want to change that. Having access to a large range of glass is essential, in my opinion. Having things at the size I've become accustomed to is very important. I find these tiny digi cams so small that my big fingers just get all muddled up on them. Forget gloves! I like these things with great big knobs and levers on them in arranged in a fool-proof manner (ha!), and most 'professional' (ahem) gear accommodates this desire. I had an RB67 once upon a time ;-) Cost is always important. Anyone self-employed sees the cost of a thing as tax-deductable, and how long it takes to pay for itself. I'm not, so can't, and it won't. So from my point of view, an MZ-D would be a 'luxury' item - totally unnecessary! But then again, that's half my belongings... At the moment in my house there are (mental tally) seven Macintosh computers, several in various states of disrepair, three in current use, one less than a year old. I don't *need* all those...they just somehow got 'acquired' through individual circumstance and...well, desire. (To be fair, all except three are being built up to be sold.) I used to build and race a 4X4 and until you've messed about with cars like that - the cost of a MZ-D pales into insignificance! My S.O. breathed a heavy sigh of relief when that eventually went (after nearly a decade!) and getting back into stills photography was most welcomed by her. So, it would be with a heavy heart that I would lose some Pentax gear, but I'm firmly decided in shooting digitally within a year. I also firmly hope that the MZ-D makes an appearance before then. It really would be the icing on the cake. They surely must be ready to rock with such a model? I can't believe they're not. They caught themselves just in time before releasing that 6MP full-frame beauty that would have been too expensive for people like me. Instead, they're hard onto pushing out a Pentax D30 *just* for people like me! Go baby go! I dream in digital, yessir. Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Jumping ship (Was Digital SLR )
Hold out for the Pentax! I wouldn't want to see anyone lose their kit and downgrade their glass! And speaking of big knobs and levers and gloves I was in chicago over the holidays and had both the LX ;-) and MX with me. Because it was below freezing I had big thick gloves on and didn't even realize I was wearing them while shooting outdoor photos. Watching other people with other equipment take their gloves off, set camera, snap photo and put gloves back on made me smile (or wink!). To be honest i had to remove gloves when rewinding so that I could press the rewind button but thankfully I only had to do that while inside. And one last thing: I live in the Washington DC area and go to the Smithsonian Institution which is free. In Chicago I spent a morning at the Field Museum of Natural History and absolutely loved it. Sure it's US$8.00 but s much better than the Smithsonian's Natural History Museum. Highly recommend it! I took tons of photos of Sue (the Tyrnnasuarus rex) in both color (Provia 400) and for the first time ever BW (Tri-X). Christian Coty wrote: You'll be the first to know if I decide to sell any of my kit! Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't 'sell my soul' and I certainly won't be expecting to pay a gazillion dollars. I am ready to pre-order if the MX-D comes in at D30 money. Maybe a bit beyond, Fuji S1 territory. Beyond that, I'm more cautious. snip I find these tiny digi cams so small that my big fingers just get all muddled up on them. Forget gloves! I like these things with great big knobs and levers on them in arranged in a fool-proof manner (ha!), and most 'professional' (ahem) gear accommodates this desire. I had an RB67 once upon a time ;-) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Jumping ship (Was Digital SLR )
Funny thing, I feel they should be pushing the the 6MP full frame out the door for people who need and can afford a camera like that. There are many who do, mostly full time pros to whom it is just another minor business expense. And, while they are doing that they should be working fevorishly to get a D-30 class sibling on the market. But, I have this silly idea that having the best there is on the market will drive up sales of lower end products. But then, Pentax's idea of a lost leader is to leave the 1000 mark off the shutter speed dial, or mark a f1.7 lens as and f2.0 and to sell them much cheaper than thay do the regular models, so I would guess they are going to take the $7K MZ-D 6MPFF, and software criple it to to 3MPHF and sell it for $3K. Ciao, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:27 PM Subject: Re: Jumping ship (Was Digital SLR ) Christian, You'll be the first to know if I decide to sell any of my kit! Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't 'sell my soul' and I certainly won't be expecting to pay a gazillion dollars. I am ready to pre-order if the MX-D comes in at D30 money. Maybe a bit beyond, Fuji S1 territory. Beyond that, I'm more cautious. This is assuming that it's a full-frame image sensor. What if it's 2/3rds size? And for more money? Depends on the spec, really. Like someone said, it's the cost in switching glass, and of possibly lowering standards in that glass... I think that in wanting to go fully digital one has to make assumptions and choices - not always based on practicalities! I mean, if I wanted a cost-effective method of 'going digital' then why don't I just buy an all-in-one high-spec digi camera like the Olympus E-XX etc? It would work fine as a standalone unit, and I could still shoot film on Pentax. My trouble is that I'm too used to 35mm film SLR form-factor. I like the shape of the bodies, with grips, and nice big lenses to hold - it all works exceedingly well, and I don't want to change that. Having access to a large range of glass is essential, in my opinion. Having things at the size I've become accustomed to is very important. I find these tiny digi cams so small that my big fingers just get all muddled up on them. Forget gloves! I like these things with great big knobs and levers on them in arranged in a fool-proof manner (ha!), and most 'professional' (ahem) gear accommodates this desire. I had an RB67 once upon a time ;-) Cost is always important. Anyone self-employed sees the cost of a thing as tax-deductable, and how long it takes to pay for itself. I'm not, so can't, and it won't. So from my point of view, an MZ-D would be a 'luxury' item - totally unnecessary! But then again, that's half my belongings... At the moment in my house there are (mental tally) seven Macintosh computers, several in various states of disrepair, three in current use, one less than a year old. I don't *need* all those...they just somehow got 'acquired' through individual circumstance and...well, desire. (To be fair, all except three are being built up to be sold.) I used to build and race a 4X4 and until you've messed about with cars like that - the cost of a MZ-D pales into insignificance! My S.O. breathed a heavy sigh of relief when that eventually went (after nearly a decade!) and getting back into stills photography was most welcomed by her. So, it would be with a heavy heart that I would lose some Pentax gear, but I'm firmly decided in shooting digitally within a year. I also firmly hope that the MZ-D makes an appearance before then. It really would be the icing on the cake. They surely must be ready to rock with such a model? I can't believe they're not. They caught themselves just in time before releasing that 6MP full-frame beauty that would have been too expensive for people like me. Instead, they're hard onto pushing out a Pentax D30 *just* for people like me! Go baby go! I dream in digital, yessir. Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Jumping ship (Was Digital SLR )
On 28 Dec 2001 at 17:27, Cotty wrote: I think that in wanting to go fully digital one has to make assumptions and choices - not always based on practicalities! I mean, if I wanted a cost-effective method of 'going digital' then why don't I just buy an all-in-one high-spec digi camera like the Olympus E-XX etc? It would work fine as a standalone unit, and I could still shoot film on Pentax. The Oly E-XX is my digital stop-gap, used it was relatively inexpensive, it will be very quickly liberated as soon as Pentax come good with a digital SLR. There is no way that I just can't justify dumping my Pentax SLR kit for a half baked solution ie Nikon/Canon/Fujifilms current offerings particularly after having the MZ-D wafted under our noses. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
