Re: K-1 Autofocus

[James King]

jtainter wrote on Sun, 08 Jan 2017 17:22:24 -0800

 "Question: How is the K-1 autofocus, as compared to say, a K-5?"

 Thanks to Hoya, the K-5 had quite poor autofocus, especially in low light. 
On 
 the other hand, the K-5II and IIs (I have both) have excellent AF.

 I have used my K-1 only a little so far, but my impression is that it 
hunts 
 more than my K-5II and IIs cameras, and has more trouble finding focus in 
low 
 light. That is not to say that the K-1 AF is bad, just that it seems a 
step 
 backward from the excellent AF of the K-5II series cameras. I never used a 
K-3.

 If you are using a K-5, you will be pleased with the K-1 AF.
 
 On all my cameras, I use only central point autofocus.

Joe, my brief experience (2 weeks) with the K-1 and DFA 28-105 suggests that 
its autofocus is better than my previous bodies, but I use the nine point AF 
array.  Have you tried it?

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Re: K-1 Autofocus

[Gonz]

Lol.  Do some test shots for me Bill.  Throw a stuffed bird up in the
air and shoot it with the K-1.  Wild Bill Cody and his marvelous K-1.
;)

To be honest, I'm not expecting to shoot Kestrels, but a hummingbird
might be nice.  A little more predictable around the feeder for sure.
They don't come back till late spring however.


On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 5:19 PM, Bill  wrote:
> On 1/12/2017 1:00 PM, Gonz wrote:
>>
>> Yes, Its quite expensive for an APS-C camera.  I'm also not trying to
>> promote it, so my apologies for the video.  I'm just asking around K-1
>> users that can basically answer the question: I hear its a lot better
>> for AF than my poor little K-5, but can it AF on a moving bird like
>> this or will it miss too much to be useful in this situation?  I'm at
>> a crossroads once again like I was before my K-5 purchase, and at that
>> time, this group was very positive on it.  The pic quality is great
>> when I make the shot, but AF is tops on my list given my bad eyesight.
>> What I hear is that its great
>
>
> To be fair, I don't know if the K1-1 will track an unladen African Swallow,
> though since they are non migratory, it is probably moot.
> If guaranteed hyperactive AF is really critical to you, Nikon is at least a
> known quantity.
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Re: K-1 Autofocus

[David J Brooks]

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 6:19 PM, Bill  wrote:

>
> To be fair, I don't know if the K1-1 will track an unladen African Swallow,
> though since they are non migratory, it is probably moot.
> If guaranteed hyperactive AF is really critical to you, Nikon is at least a
> known quantity.

I can attest to that

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Re: K-1 Autofocus

[Bill]

On 1/12/2017 1:00 PM, Gonz wrote:

Yes, Its quite expensive for an APS-C camera.  I'm also not trying to
promote it, so my apologies for the video.  I'm just asking around K-1
users that can basically answer the question: I hear its a lot better
for AF than my poor little K-5, but can it AF on a moving bird like
this or will it miss too much to be useful in this situation?  I'm at
a crossroads once again like I was before my K-5 purchase, and at that
time, this group was very positive on it.  The pic quality is great
when I make the shot, but AF is tops on my list given my bad eyesight.
What I hear is that its great


To be fair, I don't know if the K1-1 will track an unladen African 
Swallow, though since they are non migratory, it is probably moot.
If guaranteed hyperactive AF is really critical to you, Nikon is at 
least a known quantity.





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Re: K-1 Autofocus

[Gonz]

Yup.  I tried emailing that site a couple of days ago.  Haven't heard
from them.  I live in Austin.  Don't know of anybody with a K-1 here
and our best photo store is a Canikon denhouse.


On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
>
> Gonz wrote:
>>
>> Yes, Its quite expensive for an APS-C camera.  I'm also not trying to
>> promote it, so my apologies for the video.  I'm just asking around K-1
>> users that can basically answer the question: I hear its a lot better
>> for AF than my poor little K-5, but can it AF on a moving bird like
>> this or will it miss too much to be useful in this situation?  I'm at
>> a crossroads once again like I was before my K-5 purchase, and at that
>> time, this group was very positive on it.  The pic quality is great
>> when I make the shot, but AF is tops on my list given my bad eyesight.
>> What I hear is that its great
>
>
> Compared to every other Pentax offering, it's great.  I forget, where do you
> live?  Is there anybody with a K-1 in your neighborhood that could let you
> play with it for a while?  If not, I suggest renting one for a few days and
> give it a try.
>
> Seriously though, I'd say just buy that used one with the 28-105 that
> someone posted here.  At that price, if you don't like it you could get your
> money back on ebay (or to one of the people on this list).
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Re: K-1 Autofocus

[Larry Colen]

Gonz wrote:

Yes, Its quite expensive for an APS-C camera.  I'm also not trying to
promote it, so my apologies for the video.  I'm just asking around K-1
users that can basically answer the question: I hear its a lot better
for AF than my poor little K-5, but can it AF on a moving bird like
this or will it miss too much to be useful in this situation?  I'm at
a crossroads once again like I was before my K-5 purchase, and at that
time, this group was very positive on it.  The pic quality is great
when I make the shot, but AF is tops on my list given my bad eyesight.
What I hear is that its great


Compared to every other Pentax offering, it's great.  I forget, where do 
you live?  Is there anybody with a K-1 in your neighborhood that could 
let you play with it for a while?  If not, I suggest renting one for a 
few days and give it a try.


Seriously though, I'd say just buy that used one with the 28-105 that 
someone posted here.  At that price, if you don't like it you could get 
your money back on ebay (or to one of the people on this list).



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Re: K-1 Autofocus

[Gonz]

Yes, Its quite expensive for an APS-C camera.  I'm also not trying to
promote it, so my apologies for the video.  I'm just asking around K-1
users that can basically answer the question: I hear its a lot better
for AF than my poor little K-5, but can it AF on a moving bird like
this or will it miss too much to be useful in this situation?  I'm at
a crossroads once again like I was before my K-5 purchase, and at that
time, this group was very positive on it.  The pic quality is great
when I make the shot, but AF is tops on my list given my bad eyesight.
What I hear is that its great


On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
>
> Gonz wrote:
>>
>> Note, this also includes a paid promotion, so it says...
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoPl_jiHxvQ
>
>
> That video is a damned effective promotion. It could go a long way to
> convincing me to invest in Nikon gear. I'd love to couple that body with a
> 135/2.0 for photographing musicians.
>
> There are a lot of areas where Pentax is as good, or better, than Nikon for
> less money, but that sort of autofocus performance, coupled with lens
> selection and Nikon speedlights looks mighty tempting. It's interesting that
> the D500, however, does cost more than the K-1.
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Re: K-1 Autofocus

[Larry Colen]

Gonz wrote:

Note, this also includes a paid promotion, so it says...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoPl_jiHxvQ


That video is a damned effective promotion. It could go a long way to 
convincing me to invest in Nikon gear. I'd love to couple that body with 
a 135/2.0 for photographing musicians.


There are a lot of areas where Pentax is as good, or better, than Nikon 
for less money, but that sort of autofocus performance, coupled with 
lens selection and Nikon speedlights looks mighty tempting. It's 
interesting that the D500, however, does cost more than the K-1.


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Re: K-1 Autofocus

[Gonz]

Note, this also includes a paid promotion, so it says...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoPl_jiHxvQ


On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Gonz <rgonzoma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, sometimes I take pics of birds in motion like hummingbirds near
> the feeder.  Miss focus a lot.  The video review of the Nikon D500
> show it hitting the focus spot on repeatedly on really fast birds in
> flight like Kestrels.  Pretty impressive. Probably too much to ask of
> the K-1, but it would be nice.
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@mac.com> wrote:
>> I can't recall a miss, even when shooting tiny birds with big glass. It's 
>> very good.
>>
>> Paul via phone
>>
>>> On Jan 8, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Gonz <rgonzoma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Question: How is the K-1 autofocus, as compared to say, a K-5?  I was
>>> looking through a batch of pictures I took recently at a family
>>> gathering and was appalled by the autofocus performance.  Many of the
>>> shots were off, lost forever.  So bad that I started looking at other
>>> systems like Nikon D500, etc, which reviewers say is on par with their
>>> flagship D5.
>>>
>>> I just don't want to invest in a 2K camera if they haven't at least
>>> made this essential (to my tired old eyes) part work much better.  No
>>> matter that I have  tied up in so many Pentax lenses.
>>>
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Re: K-1 Autofocus

[Gonz]

Yeah, sometimes I take pics of birds in motion like hummingbirds near
the feeder.  Miss focus a lot.  The video review of the Nikon D500
show it hitting the focus spot on repeatedly on really fast birds in
flight like Kestrels.  Pretty impressive. Probably too much to ask of
the K-1, but it would be nice.


On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@mac.com> wrote:
> I can't recall a miss, even when shooting tiny birds with big glass. It's 
> very good.
>
> Paul via phone
>
>> On Jan 8, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Gonz <rgonzoma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Question: How is the K-1 autofocus, as compared to say, a K-5?  I was
>> looking through a batch of pictures I took recently at a family
>> gathering and was appalled by the autofocus performance.  Many of the
>> shots were off, lost forever.  So bad that I started looking at other
>> systems like Nikon D500, etc, which reviewers say is on par with their
>> flagship D5.
>>
>> I just don't want to invest in a 2K camera if they haven't at least
>> made this essential (to my tired old eyes) part work much better.  No
>> matter that I have  tied up in so many Pentax lenses.
>>
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Re: K-1 Autofocus

[David J Brooks]

On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 10:46 AM, David J Brooks <pentko...@gmail.com> wrote:
 I have spent a lot on my pentax gear hoping the next
> investment will fix things but alas not to be.

Should clarify my 3 primes the fa 100 the fa 77 and the dfa 50 have
been fine tuned and do a great job. I have yet to fine tune my 55-300
which is eq to my 50-200 until i go past 200 on the 55-300 and my
beloved sigma 17-70 seems not a s crisp as it was prior to the two
repairs. I need to fine tune that one if that doe snot work its back
in the bag.

Dave
>>> On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Bill <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 1/8/2017 3:04 PM, Gonz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Question: How is the K-1 autofocus, as compared to say, a K-5?  I was
>>>>> looking through a batch of pictures I took recently at a family
>>>>> gathering and was appalled by the autofocus performance.  Many of the
>>>>> shots were off, lost forever.  So bad that I started looking at other
>>>>> systems like Nikon D500, etc, which reviewers say is on par with their
>>>>> flagship D5.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just don't want to invest in a 2K camera if they haven't at least
>>>>> made this essential (to my tired old eyes) part work much better.  No
>>>>> matter that I have  tied up in so many Pentax lenses.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The AF in the K5 very nearly chased me away from Pentax. In fact, it was
>>>> one
>>>> of the reasons I invested rather heavily in Fuji. I was tired of cameras
>>>> that plain and simply didn't work. The problem with the K5 was that Hoya
>>>> was
>>>> try9ng to eke every penny they could out of their unwanted camera
>>>> division,
>>>> and every component of the K5 was compromised. If you had a camera that
>>>> worked, you were golden, but the problems with the K5 were legion, the AF
>>>> being front and center.
>>>>
>>>> Ricoh, in their wisdom, corrected seemingly every problem that Hoya built
>>>> into the Pentax line during their abysmal ownership.
>>>> The K1 AF actually works, and works very well indeed. I don't know if
>>>> it's
>>>> up to Nikon D5 standards, but it is fast, and more to the point, when it
>>>> says it has locked focus, it means it has locked onto the subject, not
>>>> some
>>>> point in space a few feet in front of or behind.
>>>>
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Re: K-1 Autofocus

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On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Bill <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> I bought into Pentax in the mid 1980s and spent the next nearly 3 decades
> being frustrated with my 35mm gear. Great lenses, but the bodies always
> seemed to have something wonky that compromised them.

Very little problems with my manual cameras since 1970's but some of
the AF gear i bought, SF-1 and PZ-1 gave me fits. Most of my Pentax
digital gear had problems as did one of my Nikon's the dreaded D2H,
the Edsel of Nikon's. My problem is i have mostly consumer grade
Pentax leses and for the most part are ok, but i still get a more OOF
or softer images than i think i should. I have more "pro" lenses for
my nikon equipment and the AF is lighting fast with them. Very few
missed shots. I have spent a lot on my pentax gear hoping the next
investment will fix things but alas not to be. I fear the D7200 will
be my next purchase and pull the 35-70 and 70-200 VR back out.
I'd like to go to a Fuji interchangeable lens system but would have to
start form scratch.


>
> I'm not frustrated anymore.

I am just a smidge
>
>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Bill <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 1/8/2017 3:04 PM, Gonz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Question: How is the K-1 autofocus, as compared to say, a K-5?  I was
>>>> looking through a batch of pictures I took recently at a family
>>>> gathering and was appalled by the autofocus performance.  Many of the
>>>> shots were off, lost forever.  So bad that I started looking at other
>>>> systems like Nikon D500, etc, which reviewers say is on par with their
>>>> flagship D5.
>>>>
>>>> I just don't want to invest in a 2K camera if they haven't at least
>>>> made this essential (to my tired old eyes) part work much better.  No
>>>> matter that I have  tied up in so many Pentax lenses.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> The AF in the K5 very nearly chased me away from Pentax. In fact, it was
>>> one
>>> of the reasons I invested rather heavily in Fuji. I was tired of cameras
>>> that plain and simply didn't work. The problem with the K5 was that Hoya
>>> was
>>> try9ng to eke every penny they could out of their unwanted camera
>>> division,
>>> and every component of the K5 was compromised. If you had a camera that
>>> worked, you were golden, but the problems with the K5 were legion, the AF
>>> being front and center.
>>>
>>> Ricoh, in their wisdom, corrected seemingly every problem that Hoya built
>>> into the Pentax line during their abysmal ownership.
>>> The K1 AF actually works, and works very well indeed. I don't know if
>>> it's
>>> up to Nikon D5 standards, but it is fast, and more to the point, when it
>>> says it has locked focus, it means it has locked onto the subject, not
>>> some
>>> point in space a few feet in front of or behind.
>>>
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Re: K-1 Autofocus

[Gonz]

Yes, I feel your pain because I've felt the same way since I bought my
first SLR: a Pentax ME-Super with a 50mm 1.4 lens.  While it seemed to
be a great body, too many of my pics were not exposed right.  When I
borrowed a friends Nikon FE (or FM) + 50mm 1.4 lens, I was shocked at
the perfect exposures and beautiful renditions.  I almost jumped to
Nikon, but the system was so much more expensive to my college tastes
than Pentax.  So here I am


On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 6:23 PM, Bill <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1/9/2017 9:25 AM, Gonz wrote:
>>
>> Well, this is pretty much the situation I'm in right now.  I guess I
>> could take a leap of faith and try the K-1.  The worst that can happen
>> is that I am not happy and I sell it at a small loss.  I'm so invested
>> in good Pentax glass that it would be a shame not to try .and. .give.
>> .them. .one. .more. .chance.
>
>
> You wouldn't know it from looking at my pictures, but I'm actually pretty
> picky about my gear.
>
> I bought into Pentax in the mid 1980s and spent the next nearly 3 decades
> being frustrated with my 35mm gear. Great lenses, but the bodies always
> seemed to have something wonky that compromised them.
>
> I'm not frustrated anymore.
>
>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Bill <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 1/8/2017 3:04 PM, Gonz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Question: How is the K-1 autofocus, as compared to say, a K-5?  I was
>>>> looking through a batch of pictures I took recently at a family
>>>> gathering and was appalled by the autofocus performance.  Many of the
>>>> shots were off, lost forever.  So bad that I started looking at other
>>>> systems like Nikon D500, etc, which reviewers say is on par with their
>>>> flagship D5.
>>>>
>>>> I just don't want to invest in a 2K camera if they haven't at least
>>>> made this essential (to my tired old eyes) part work much better.  No
>>>> matter that I have  tied up in so many Pentax lenses.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> The AF in the K5 very nearly chased me away from Pentax. In fact, it was
>>> one
>>> of the reasons I invested rather heavily in Fuji. I was tired of cameras
>>> that plain and simply didn't work. The problem with the K5 was that Hoya
>>> was
>>> try9ng to eke every penny they could out of their unwanted camera
>>> division,
>>> and every component of the K5 was compromised. If you had a camera that
>>> worked, you were golden, but the problems with the K5 were legion, the AF
>>> being front and center.
>>>
>>> Ricoh, in their wisdom, corrected seemingly every problem that Hoya built
>>> into the Pentax line during their abysmal ownership.
>>> The K1 AF actually works, and works very well indeed. I don't know if
>>> it's
>>> up to Nikon D5 standards, but it is fast, and more to the point, when it
>>> says it has locked focus, it means it has locked onto the subject, not
>>> some
>>> point in space a few feet in front of or behind.
>>>
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Re: K-1 Autofocus

[Bill]

On 1/9/2017 9:25 AM, Gonz wrote:

Well, this is pretty much the situation I'm in right now.  I guess I
could take a leap of faith and try the K-1.  The worst that can happen
is that I am not happy and I sell it at a small loss.  I'm so invested
in good Pentax glass that it would be a shame not to try .and. .give.
.them. .one. .more. .chance.


You wouldn't know it from looking at my pictures, but I'm actually 
pretty picky about my gear.


I bought into Pentax in the mid 1980s and spent the next nearly 3 
decades being frustrated with my 35mm gear. Great lenses, but the bodies 
always seemed to have something wonky that compromised them.


I'm not frustrated anymore.



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On 1/8/2017 3:04 PM, Gonz wrote:


Question: How is the K-1 autofocus, as compared to say, a K-5?  I was
looking through a batch of pictures I took recently at a family
gathering and was appalled by the autofocus performance.  Many of the
shots were off, lost forever.  So bad that I started looking at other
systems like Nikon D500, etc, which reviewers say is on par with their
flagship D5.

I just don't want to invest in a 2K camera if they haven't at least
made this essential (to my tired old eyes) part work much better.  No
matter that I have  tied up in so many Pentax lenses.




The AF in the K5 very nearly chased me away from Pentax. In fact, it was one
of the reasons I invested rather heavily in Fuji. I was tired of cameras
that plain and simply didn't work. The problem with the K5 was that Hoya was
try9ng to eke every penny they could out of their unwanted camera division,
and every component of the K5 was compromised. If you had a camera that
worked, you were golden, but the problems with the K5 were legion, the AF
being front and center.

Ricoh, in their wisdom, corrected seemingly every problem that Hoya built
into the Pentax line during their abysmal ownership.
The K1 AF actually works, and works very well indeed. I don't know if it's
up to Nikon D5 standards, but it is fast, and more to the point, when it
says it has locked focus, it means it has locked onto the subject, not some
point in space a few feet in front of or behind.


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Re: K-1 Autofocus

[Zos Xavius]

Absolute truth!

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@mac.com> wrote:
> It’s not exactly a leap in that i have yet to hear that anyone who bought the 
> K-1 has been displeased. You have to spend close to $1000 more to get a DSLR 
> that tops it in any significant way.
>
> Paul
>> On Jan 9, 2017, at 10:25 AM, Gonz <rgonzoma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Well, this is pretty much the situation I'm in right now.  I guess I
>> could take a leap of faith and try the K-1.  The worst that can happen
>> is that I am not happy and I sell it at a small loss.  I'm so invested
>> in good Pentax glass that it would be a shame not to try .and. .give.
>> .them. .one. .more. .chance.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Bill <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 1/8/2017 3:04 PM, Gonz wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Question: How is the K-1 autofocus, as compared to say, a K-5?  I was
>>>> looking through a batch of pictures I took recently at a family
>>>> gathering and was appalled by the autofocus performance.  Many of the
>>>> shots were off, lost forever.  So bad that I started looking at other
>>>> systems like Nikon D500, etc, which reviewers say is on par with their
>>>> flagship D5.
>>>>
>>>> I just don't want to invest in a 2K camera if they haven't at least
>>>> made this essential (to my tired old eyes) part work much better.  No
>>>> matter that I have  tied up in so many Pentax lenses.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> The AF in the K5 very nearly chased me away from Pentax. In fact, it was one
>>> of the reasons I invested rather heavily in Fuji. I was tired of cameras
>>> that plain and simply didn't work. The problem with the K5 was that Hoya was
>>> try9ng to eke every penny they could out of their unwanted camera division,
>>> and every component of the K5 was compromised. If you had a camera that
>>> worked, you were golden, but the problems with the K5 were legion, the AF
>>> being front and center.
>>>
>>> Ricoh, in their wisdom, corrected seemingly every problem that Hoya built
>>> into the Pentax line during their abysmal ownership.
>>> The K1 AF actually works, and works very well indeed. I don't know if it's
>>> up to Nikon D5 standards, but it is fast, and more to the point, when it
>>> says it has locked focus, it means it has locked onto the subject, not some
>>> point in space a few feet in front of or behind.
>>>
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Re: K-1 Autofocus

[Paul Stenquist]

It’s not exactly a leap in that i have yet to hear that anyone who bought the 
K-1 has been displeased. You have to spend close to $1000 more to get a DSLR 
that tops it in any significant way.

Paul
> On Jan 9, 2017, at 10:25 AM, Gonz <rgonzoma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Well, this is pretty much the situation I'm in right now.  I guess I
> could take a leap of faith and try the K-1.  The worst that can happen
> is that I am not happy and I sell it at a small loss.  I'm so invested
> in good Pentax glass that it would be a shame not to try .and. .give.
> .them. .one. .more. .chance.
> 
> On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Bill <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 1/8/2017 3:04 PM, Gonz wrote:
>>> 
>>> Question: How is the K-1 autofocus, as compared to say, a K-5?  I was
>>> looking through a batch of pictures I took recently at a family
>>> gathering and was appalled by the autofocus performance.  Many of the
>>> shots were off, lost forever.  So bad that I started looking at other
>>> systems like Nikon D500, etc, which reviewers say is on par with their
>>> flagship D5.
>>> 
>>> I just don't want to invest in a 2K camera if they haven't at least
>>> made this essential (to my tired old eyes) part work much better.  No
>>> matter that I have  tied up in so many Pentax lenses.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> The AF in the K5 very nearly chased me away from Pentax. In fact, it was one
>> of the reasons I invested rather heavily in Fuji. I was tired of cameras
>> that plain and simply didn't work. The problem with the K5 was that Hoya was
>> try9ng to eke every penny they could out of their unwanted camera division,
>> and every component of the K5 was compromised. If you had a camera that
>> worked, you were golden, but the problems with the K5 were legion, the AF
>> being front and center.
>> 
>> Ricoh, in their wisdom, corrected seemingly every problem that Hoya built
>> into the Pentax line during their abysmal ownership.
>> The K1 AF actually works, and works very well indeed. I don't know if it's
>> up to Nikon D5 standards, but it is fast, and more to the point, when it
>> says it has locked focus, it means it has locked onto the subject, not some
>> point in space a few feet in front of or behind.
>> 
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Re: K-1 Autofocus

[Gonz]

Well, this is pretty much the situation I'm in right now.  I guess I
could take a leap of faith and try the K-1.  The worst that can happen
is that I am not happy and I sell it at a small loss.  I'm so invested
in good Pentax glass that it would be a shame not to try .and. .give.
.them. .one. .more. .chance.

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Bill <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1/8/2017 3:04 PM, Gonz wrote:
>>
>> Question: How is the K-1 autofocus, as compared to say, a K-5?  I was
>> looking through a batch of pictures I took recently at a family
>> gathering and was appalled by the autofocus performance.  Many of the
>> shots were off, lost forever.  So bad that I started looking at other
>> systems like Nikon D500, etc, which reviewers say is on par with their
>> flagship D5.
>>
>> I just don't want to invest in a 2K camera if they haven't at least
>> made this essential (to my tired old eyes) part work much better.  No
>> matter that I have  tied up in so many Pentax lenses.
>>
>>
>
> The AF in the K5 very nearly chased me away from Pentax. In fact, it was one
> of the reasons I invested rather heavily in Fuji. I was tired of cameras
> that plain and simply didn't work. The problem with the K5 was that Hoya was
> try9ng to eke every penny they could out of their unwanted camera division,
> and every component of the K5 was compromised. If you had a camera that
> worked, you were golden, but the problems with the K5 were legion, the AF
> being front and center.
>
> Ricoh, in their wisdom, corrected seemingly every problem that Hoya built
> into the Pentax line during their abysmal ownership.
> The K1 AF actually works, and works very well indeed. I don't know if it's
> up to Nikon D5 standards, but it is fast, and more to the point, when it
> says it has locked focus, it means it has locked onto the subject, not some
> point in space a few feet in front of or behind.
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Re: K-1 Autofocus

[Jos de Fotograaf]

I had the same experience when using the new 28-105. This lens has the 
focusing ring very close to the body. The lens has manual focus overide 
and the ring turns too easy. Quite often I touch it unintentionally 
after autofocusing.



On 08-Jan-17 22:04, Gonz wrote:

Question: How is the K-1 autofocus, as compared to say, a K-5?  I was
looking through a batch of pictures I took recently at a family
gathering and was appalled by the autofocus performance.  Many of the
shots were off, lost forever.  So bad that I started looking at other
systems like Nikon D500, etc, which reviewers say is on par with their
flagship D5.

I just don't want to invest in a 2K camera if they haven't at least
made this essential (to my tired old eyes) part work much better.  No
matter that I have  tied up in so many Pentax lenses.





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Re: K-1 Autofocus

[P. J. Alling]

That should be 11 sensor points...

On 1/8/2017 10:40 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
The AF in the K-5II is pretty good.  It still has the same fairly 
large sensor points and only 9 of them, like the original K-5, but 
it's snappy and mostly correct, if you don't expect perfect eyelash 
focus.  It will choose the eye brow most of the time, seems to favor 
the closest thing the focus point is over.


I've never shot with a K-7 or K-3, came to the K-5II from the K20D, 
and my first and lasting impression is finally Pentax AF that mostly 
works.


Everything I've read implies that the K-5II[s] focusing system is much 
superior to the original K-5, pretty much the equal of the K-3 with 
less fine control since the K-3 packs two and a half times the number 
of focus points into the same area.


Most reviews of the K-1 focus system seem to think that in spite of 
being on par with or maybe a bit better than the K-3, the focus points 
are too concentrated in the center of the frame, for a lot of purposes.


That's not surprising as I expect the footprint of the K-1 focusing 
module is exactly the same as the K-3[II], and some version of it will 
find itself in the next iteration of the APS-C flagship, if Ricoh 
decides to keep producing a semi pro APS-C body.



On 1/8/2017 4:04 PM, Gonz wrote:

Question: How is the K-1 autofocus, as compared to say, a K-5?  I was
looking through a batch of pictures I took recently at a family
gathering and was appalled by the autofocus performance.  Many of the
shots were off, lost forever.  So bad that I started looking at other
systems like Nikon D500, etc, which reviewers say is on par with their
flagship D5.

I just don't want to invest in a 2K camera if they haven't at least
made this essential (to my tired old eyes) part work much better.  No
matter that I have  tied up in so many Pentax lenses.








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Re: K-1 Autofocus

[P. J. Alling]

The AF in the K-5II is pretty good.  It still has the same fairly large 
sensor points and only 9 of them, like the original K-5, but it's snappy 
and mostly correct, if you don't expect perfect eyelash focus.  It will 
choose the eye brow most of the time, seems to favor the closest thing 
the focus point is over.


I've never shot with a K-7 or K-3, came to the K-5II from the K20D, and 
my first and lasting impression is finally Pentax AF that mostly works.


Everything I've read implies that the K-5II[s] focusing system is much 
superior to the original K-5, pretty much the equal of the K-3 with less 
fine control since the K-3 packs two and a half times the number of 
focus points into the same area.


Most reviews of the K-1 focus system seem to think that in spite of 
being on par with or maybe a bit better than the K-3, the focus points 
are too concentrated in the center of the frame, for a lot of purposes.


That's not surprising as I expect the footprint of the K-1 focusing 
module is exactly the same as the K-3[II], and some version of it will 
find itself in the next iteration of the APS-C flagship, if Ricoh 
decides to keep producing a semi pro APS-C body.



On 1/8/2017 4:04 PM, Gonz wrote:

Question: How is the K-1 autofocus, as compared to say, a K-5?  I was
looking through a batch of pictures I took recently at a family
gathering and was appalled by the autofocus performance.  Many of the
shots were off, lost forever.  So bad that I started looking at other
systems like Nikon D500, etc, which reviewers say is on par with their
flagship D5.

I just don't want to invest in a 2K camera if they haven't at least
made this essential (to my tired old eyes) part work much better.  No
matter that I have  tied up in so many Pentax lenses.





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Re: K-1 Autofocus

[Zos Xavius]

The AF in the K-5 was terrible. Plain and simple. The k-7 was even
more reliable. It might have been slightly (not really though) slower
but when it locked you had a good lock. The K-5 IIs and K-3 are much,
much more reliable. The K-3 is the best focusing camera I have ever
used on static subjects. Even in almost total darkness it will lock on
to nearly anything. The K-1 is supposed to be even better. Don't
worry.

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Gonz <rgonzoma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Question: How is the K-1 autofocus, as compared to say, a K-5?  I was
> looking through a batch of pictures I took recently at a family
> gathering and was appalled by the autofocus performance.  Many of the
> shots were off, lost forever.  So bad that I started looking at other
> systems like Nikon D500, etc, which reviewers say is on par with their
> flagship D5.
>
> I just don't want to invest in a 2K camera if they haven't at least
> made this essential (to my tired old eyes) part work much better.  No
> matter that I have  tied up in so many Pentax lenses.
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Re: K-1 Autofocus

[jtainter]

"Question: How is the K-1 autofocus, as compared to say, a K-5?"

Thanks to Hoya, the K-5 had quite poor autofocus, especially in low light. On 
the other hand, the K-5II and IIs (I have both) have excellent AF.

I have used my K-1 only a little so far, but my impression is that it hunts 
more than my K-5II and IIs cameras, and has more trouble finding focus in low 
light. That is not to say that the K-1 AF is bad, just that it seems a step 
backward from the excellent AF of the K-5II series cameras. I never used a K-3.

If you are using a K-5, you will be pleased with the K-1 AF.

On all my cameras, I use only central point autofocus.

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Re: K-1 Autofocus

[Larry Colen]

Gonz wrote:

Question: How is the K-1 autofocus, as compared to say, a K-5?


It is much, much better.  Even the K-3 is a big improvement.

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Re: K-1 Autofocus

[Bill]

On 1/8/2017 3:04 PM, Gonz wrote:

Question: How is the K-1 autofocus, as compared to say, a K-5?  I was
looking through a batch of pictures I took recently at a family
gathering and was appalled by the autofocus performance.  Many of the
shots were off, lost forever.  So bad that I started looking at other
systems like Nikon D500, etc, which reviewers say is on par with their
flagship D5.

I just don't want to invest in a 2K camera if they haven't at least
made this essential (to my tired old eyes) part work much better.  No
matter that I have  tied up in so many Pentax lenses.




The AF in the K5 very nearly chased me away from Pentax. In fact, it was 
one of the reasons I invested rather heavily in Fuji. I was tired of 
cameras that plain and simply didn't work. The problem with the K5 was 
that Hoya was try9ng to eke every penny they could out of their unwanted 
camera division, and every component of the K5 was compromised. If you 
had a camera that worked, you were golden, but the problems with the K5 
were legion, the AF being front and center.


Ricoh, in their wisdom, corrected seemingly every problem that Hoya 
built into the Pentax line during their abysmal ownership.
The K1 AF actually works, and works very well indeed. I don't know if 
it's up to Nikon D5 standards, but it is fast, and more to the point, 
when it says it has locked focus, it means it has locked onto the 
subject, not some point in space a few feet in front of or behind.


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Re: K-1 Autofocus

[Philip Northeast]

I haven't noticed autofocus performance on the K1, apart for the 
impressive looking number of AF sensors shown in the viewfinder. I 
haven't rejected a shot becasue of focus issues.


The viewfinder is larger than my K5, but even with manual lenses I use 
the autofocus confirmation as an aid for aging eyes.


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On 9/1/17 8:04 am, Gonz wrote:

Question: How is the K-1 autofocus, as compared to say, a K-5?  I was
looking through a batch of pictures I took recently at a family
gathering and was appalled by the autofocus performance.  Many of the
shots were off, lost forever.  So bad that I started looking at other
systems like Nikon D500, etc, which reviewers say is on par with their
flagship D5.

I just don't want to invest in a 2K camera if they haven't at least
made this essential (to my tired old eyes) part work much better.  No
matter that I have  tied up in so many Pentax lenses.




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Re: K-1 Autofocus

[Paul Stenquist]

I can't recall a miss, even when shooting tiny birds with big glass. It's very 
good.

Paul via phone

> On Jan 8, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Gonz <rgonzoma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Question: How is the K-1 autofocus, as compared to say, a K-5?  I was
> looking through a batch of pictures I took recently at a family
> gathering and was appalled by the autofocus performance.  Many of the
> shots were off, lost forever.  So bad that I started looking at other
> systems like Nikon D500, etc, which reviewers say is on par with their
> flagship D5.
> 
> I just don't want to invest in a 2K camera if they haven't at least
> made this essential (to my tired old eyes) part work much better.  No
> matter that I have  tied up in so many Pentax lenses.
> 
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Re: K-1 Autofocus

[Mark Roberts]

Gonz wrote:

>Question: How is the K-1 autofocus, as compared to say, a K-5?

K-1 is vastly superior.
 
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K-1 Autofocus

[Gonz]

Question: How is the K-1 autofocus, as compared to say, a K-5?  I was
looking through a batch of pictures I took recently at a family
gathering and was appalled by the autofocus performance.  Many of the
shots were off, lost forever.  So bad that I started looking at other
systems like Nikon D500, etc, which reviewers say is on par with their
flagship D5.

I just don't want to invest in a 2K camera if they haven't at least
made this essential (to my tired old eyes) part work much better.  No
matter that I have  tied up in so many Pentax lenses.


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Re: K-1 autofocus

[Paul Stenquist]

Yep. I use AFC in select 9. Works great for sports and race cars. But any time 
I might want to focus and reframe, I of course go back to S mode. K-1 autofocus 
is very good if you manage it well.

Paul via phone

> On Oct 30, 2016, at 7:35 PM, Larry Colen <l...@red4est.com> wrote:
> 
> Sometime recently, I think it was Paul that mentioned using the AF-C mode on 
> his K-1 and having good luck with it.  We've just had several events at the 
> dojo, and I had good luck using AF-C in select 9 mode.
> 
> I forgot to change the camera back, and tried using that when photographing 
> dancers in low light.  I was not nearly so successful.  I suspect that in low 
> light, sharp edges in the background are far more tempting to the camera than 
> they are in good light.
> 
> I'm going to continue experimenting on when to use sel 1vs9 and AF-S vs AF-C 
> (note, I have the AF button configured to lock out autofocus).
> 
> I encourage others to also experiment and please tell me what you discover.
> 
>   Larry
> 
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K-1 autofocus

[Larry Colen]

Sometime recently, I think it was Paul that mentioned using the AF-C 
mode on his K-1 and having good luck with it.  We've just had several 
events at the dojo, and I had good luck using AF-C in select 9 mode.


I forgot to change the camera back, and tried using that when 
photographing dancers in low light.  I was not nearly so successful.  I 
suspect that in low light, sharp edges in the background are far more 
tempting to the camera than they are in good light.


I'm going to continue experimenting on when to use sel 1vs9 and AF-S vs 
AF-C (note, I have the AF button configured to lock out autofocus).


I encourage others to also experiment and please tell me what you discover.

   Larry

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