Re: K-5IIs review and comparison to K-5
I just finished reading this damned review, and while I can nit pick with the best of them, but could these pissants be any more annoying? Well at least they did a review, DPReview will ignore these cameras until they are superseded. On 10/29/2012 1:39 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: From our friends at Pentax Forums. :-) http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax-k-5-ii-iis/introduction.html Some highlights: AF much better in low light, unimproved in normal light. Resolution jump up from K-5 very noticeable. Noticeable moire on finely patterned fabric, otherwise no worries. Speaking of which: anyone know if some simple (eg Gaussian) blurring in post will give the same effect as the now removed optical sensor filter? That is, if I see moire in my shot, can I do a simple pass over it, or is the image just screwed now? Enjoy. -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5IIs review and comparison to K-5
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 5:44 AM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: Nah, if I upgrade it has to be another system, Pentax are just falling further and further behind the competition with each incarnation. It's a pity really. Save for the hassle and cost of going through the big sell-off and re-buying everything I would have left the brand some years ago. I just put in my Lotto and hope these days. With Pentax finally freed from Hoya's shackles, I wonder if it's indeed a good time to jump ship... unless you need something better, now. Anyway, I don't think Pentax is falling further and further behind the competition - the K-30 and the K-5 II(s) are solid products and, for example, Nikon still didn't replaced the D300s. -- Best regards, Alex Sarbu -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5IIs review and comparison to K-5
Adam at Pentaxforums is only concerned about focus speed. And that is the only property he tested. So we really don't know how much better autofocus is in normal light. Someone has to test focus tracking (AF-C), focus accuracy, focus repeatability and so on. Stig Vidar Hovland Fra: PDML [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] p#229; vegne av Bruce Walker [bruce.wal...@gmail.com] Sendt: 29. oktober 2012 19:39 To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List Emne: K-5IIs review and comparison to K-5 From our friends at Pentax Forums. :-) http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax-k-5-ii-iis/introduction.html Some highlights: AF much better in low light, unimproved in normal light. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5IIs review and comparison to K-5
You're right Stig, but for me what AF parameters he did measure is useful to know. I find SDM lens focussing to be pretty good in bright light already, even on the K20D. So if low-light focus speed was made a lot better -- and it sounds like it was -- then that puts the K-5IIs on my wish-list. That and the improved resolution are a strong motivation for me. On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 5:44 AM, SV Hovland pdml...@heime.org wrote: Adam at Pentaxforums is only concerned about focus speed. And that is the only property he tested. So we really don't know how much better autofocus is in normal light. Someone has to test focus tracking (AF-C), focus accuracy, focus repeatability and so on. Stig Vidar Hovland Fra: PDML [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] p#229; vegne av Bruce Walker [bruce.wal...@gmail.com] Sendt: 29. oktober 2012 19:39 To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List Emne: K-5IIs review and comparison to K-5 From our friends at Pentax Forums. :-) http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax-k-5-ii-iis/introduction.html Some highlights: AF much better in low light, unimproved in normal light. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: K-5IIs review and comparison to K-5
There are already reports from K-30 users that this model is better than K-5. And K-5 II is using a similar AF system as K-30 so I expect it to be more of an upgrade than Adam at Pentaxforums seems to know. My K-5 is in for a repair (lens release button fell of) so K-5 IIs is more than tempting. Stig Vidar Hovland -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:36 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K-5IIs review and comparison to K-5 You're right Stig, but for me what AF parameters he did measure is useful to know. I find SDM lens focussing to be pretty good in bright light already, even on the K20D. So if low-light focus speed was made a lot better -- and it sounds like it was -- then that puts the K-5IIs on my wish-list. That and the improved resolution are a strong motivation for me. On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 5:44 AM, SV Hovland pdml...@heime.org wrote: Adam at Pentaxforums is only concerned about focus speed. And that is the only property he tested. So we really don't know how much better autofocus is in normal light. Someone has to test focus tracking (AF-C), focus accuracy, focus repeatability and so on. Stig Vidar Hovland Fra: PDML [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] p#229; vegne av Bruce Walker [bruce.wal...@gmail.com] Sendt: 29. oktober 2012 19:39 To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List Emne: K-5IIs review and comparison to K-5 From our friends at Pentax Forums. :-) http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax-k-5-ii-iis/introduction.htm l Some highlights: AF much better in low light, unimproved in normal light. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5IIs review and comparison to K-5
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3:50 PM, SV Hovland pdml...@heime.org wrote: There are already reports from K-30 users that this model is better than K-5. And K-5 II is using a similar AF system as K-30 so I expect it to be more of an upgrade than Adam at Pentaxforums seems to know. My K-5 is in for a repair (lens release button fell of) so K-5 IIs is more than tempting. Stig Vidar Hovland The K-5 II uses a new AF system, the SAFOX X - with redesigned optics, works from EV -3 and the center point has additional accuracy with f/2.8 (or faster) lenses. The K-30's SAFOX IXi+ is the K-5's SAFOX IX+ with optics redesigned to counter chromatic aberrations (probably to solve the tungsten light issues). -- Best regards, Alex Sarbu -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: K-5IIs review and comparison to K-5
According to the review, the biggest difference in AF between the K5 and the K5II is in low light conditions only. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 11:06 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K-5IIs review and comparison to K-5 On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3:50 PM, SV Hovland pdml...@heime.org wrote: There are already reports from K-30 users that this model is better than K-5. And K-5 II is using a similar AF system as K-30 so I expect it to be more of an upgrade than Adam at Pentaxforums seems to know. My K-5 is in for a repair (lens release button fell of) so K-5 IIs is more than tempting. Stig Vidar Hovland The K-5 II uses a new AF system, the SAFOX X - with redesigned optics, works from EV -3 and the center point has additional accuracy with f/2.8 (or faster) lenses. The K-30's SAFOX IXi+ is the K-5's SAFOX IX+ with optics redesigned to counter chromatic aberrations (probably to solve the tungsten light issues). -- Best regards, Alex Sarbu -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5IIs review and comparison to K-5
On 31 October 2012 03:00, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: According to the review, the biggest difference in AF between the K5 and the K5II is in low light conditions only. Hmm, which is precisely where the k5's have been letting me down regularly. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5IIs review and comparison to K-5
I greatly want improved low light focusing, which makes the K5 IIs so tempting. Cheers, Christine On Oct 30, 2012, at 8:53 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 October 2012 03:00, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: According to the review, the biggest difference in AF between the K5 and the K5II is in low light conditions only. Hmm, which is precisely where the k5's have been letting me down regularly. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: K-5IIs review and comparison to K-5
well by all means then upgrade to the k5IIs - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine Aguila Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:13 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K-5IIs review and comparison to K-5 I greatly want improved low light focusing, which makes the K5 IIs so tempting. Cheers, Christine On Oct 30, 2012, at 8:53 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 October 2012 03:00, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: According to the review, the biggest difference in AF between the K5 and the K5II is in low light conditions only. Hmm, which is precisely where the k5's have been letting me down regularly. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5IIs review and comparison to K-5
On 31 October 2012 13:30, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: well by all means then upgrade to the k5IIs - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine Aguila Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:13 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K-5IIs review and comparison to K-5 I greatly want improved low light focusing, which makes the K5 IIs so tempting. Cheers, Christine Nah, if I upgrade it has to be another system, Pentax are just falling further and further behind the competition with each incarnation. It's a pity really. Save for the hassle and cost of going through the big sell-off and re-buying everything I would have left the brand some years ago. I just put in my Lotto and hope these days. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5IIs review and comparison to K-5
I guess it depends on how large the affected area is. I read that review and it was hard to say how the whole shot would look. I mean, if the face is sharper but the clothing is not quite right, is that OK? On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: From our friends at Pentax Forums. :-) http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax-k-5-ii-iis/introduction.html Some highlights: AF much better in low light, unimproved in normal light. Resolution jump up from K-5 very noticeable. Noticeable moire on finely patterned fabric, otherwise no worries. Speaking of which: anyone know if some simple (eg Gaussian) blurring in post will give the same effect as the now removed optical sensor filter? That is, if I see moire in my shot, can I do a simple pass over it, or is the image just screwed now? Enjoy. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
