K10D service menu/focus system adjust

[Digital Image Studio]

I haven't tried this yet but if you're interested see:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=22013971

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Re: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

[Michel Carrère-Gée]

David Savage a écrit :
> When you go into the hidden service menu it has this list:
>
> DEBUG MODE 
> ...
> LENS ROM LOAD from FILE
> LENS ROM SAVE to FILE
> LENS ROM READ/WRITE
> ...
>   
Debug mode can read/write on LENS ROM ?
Somebody has a sample ?



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Re: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

[Thibouille]

No unfortunately.
If one could unlock Iso 50/3200 ... ;)

2007/2/24, Michel Carrère-Gée <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> David Savage a écrit :
> > When you go into the hidden service menu it has this list:
> >
> > DEBUG MODE 
> > ...
> > LENS ROM LOAD from FILE
> > LENS ROM SAVE to FILE
> > LENS ROM READ/WRITE
> > ...
> >
> Debug mode can read/write on LENS ROM ?
> Somebody has a sample ?
>
>
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Re: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

[David J Brooks]

I can't get those drag racing channells anymore.

Hrumphh

Dave

On 2/10/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, I did bookmark it, and I'll probably print it tomorrow when I'm
> on my desktop system. Good to know, as you say. Watching
> Winternationals drag racing qualifying now, so I'm on my laptop. Lots
> of plus 330 mph passes. Good stuff.
> Paul
> On Feb 10, 2007, at 10:01 PM, David Savage wrote:
>
> > The beauty of this software adjustment is if you dial in tot much/too
> > little focus compensation (it's a bar scale in um steps BTW), it's
> > easily undone.
> >
> > But as I said, I'm not planning to fool with it, but it's good to know
> > how to do it should I want to.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On 2/11/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I would want to rig a very sophisticated test rig before I tried
> >> anything like that. It would have to include a precise scale and an
> >> absolutely solid mount for the camera. However, my focus seems to be
> >> quite precise, so I don't plan on trying this. Proceed with extreme
> >> caution.
> >> Paul
> >> On Feb 10, 2007, at 9:36 PM, David Savage wrote:
> >>
> >>> That is so cool.
> >>>
> >>> I think I might have a slight front focus issue. But at the moment
> >>> it's not big enough a problem for me to go fooling with it.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Dave
> >>>
> >>> On 2/11/07, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  I haven't tried this yet but if you're interested see:
> 
>  http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?
>  forum=1036&message=22013971
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Re: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

[David Savage]

That is so cool.

I think I might have a slight front focus issue. But at the moment
it's not big enough a problem for me to go fooling with it.

Cheers,

Dave

On 2/11/07, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I haven't tried this yet but if you're interested see:
>
> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=22013971

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Re: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

[Paul Stenquist]

I would want to rig a very sophisticated test rig before I tried  
anything like that. It would have to include a precise scale and an  
absolutely solid mount for the camera. However, my focus seems to be  
quite precise, so I don't plan on trying this. Proceed with extreme  
caution.
Paul
On Feb 10, 2007, at 9:36 PM, David Savage wrote:

> That is so cool.
>
> I think I might have a slight front focus issue. But at the moment
> it's not big enough a problem for me to go fooling with it.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
>
> On 2/11/07, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I haven't tried this yet but if you're interested see:
>>
>> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp? 
>> forum=1036&message=22013971
>
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Re: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

[David Savage]

The beauty of this software adjustment is if you dial in tot much/too
little focus compensation (it's a bar scale in um steps BTW), it's
easily undone.

But as I said, I'm not planning to fool with it, but it's good to know
how to do it should I want to.

Cheers,

Dave

On 2/11/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would want to rig a very sophisticated test rig before I tried
> anything like that. It would have to include a precise scale and an
> absolutely solid mount for the camera. However, my focus seems to be
> quite precise, so I don't plan on trying this. Proceed with extreme
> caution.
> Paul
> On Feb 10, 2007, at 9:36 PM, David Savage wrote:
>
> > That is so cool.
> >
> > I think I might have a slight front focus issue. But at the moment
> > it's not big enough a problem for me to go fooling with it.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On 2/11/07, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I haven't tried this yet but if you're interested see:
> >>
> >> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?
> >> forum=1036&message=22013971
> >
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RE: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

[J. C. O'Connell]

THESE SERVICE MENUS CAN BE VERY USEFUL!

Anybody know if the earlier & other model cameras
like the istD DS DL DS2 DL2 K100D K110D have one and
how to access them?

If the AF system is menu servicable, other
important things may be too, LIKE SYSTEM
SENSITIVITY (metering) etc. I want to know.
And like this poster states, these service
menus ususally have settings "values" that
if you jot down before you start experimenting
you can always get it right back exactly where you started.

JCO


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The beauty of this software adjustment is if you dial in tot much/too
little focus compensation (it's a bar scale in um steps BTW), it's
easily undone.

But as I said, I'm not planning to fool with it, but it's good to know
how to do it should I want to.

Cheers,

Dave

On 2/11/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would want to rig a very sophisticated test rig before I tried 
> anything like that. It would have to include a precise scale and an 
> absolutely solid mount for the camera. However, my focus seems to be 
> quite precise, so I don't plan on trying this. Proceed with extreme 
> caution. Paul
> On Feb 10, 2007, at 9:36 PM, David Savage wrote:
>
> > That is so cool.
> >
> > I think I might have a slight front focus issue. But at the moment 
> > it's not big enough a problem for me to go fooling with it.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On 2/11/07, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I haven't tried this yet but if you're interested see:
> >>
> >> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?
> >> forum=1036&message=22013971
> >
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Re: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

[Joseph Tainter]

I haven't tried this yet but if you're interested see:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=22013971

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Wow. Now where's the Easter Egg?

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Re: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

[David Savage]

When you go into the hidden service menu it has this list:

DEBUG MODE 
CARDDOOR OPEN  
WRITE CARD VNDR  
SCRIPT EN MODE  
USR DAT CLEAR
DUMMY RELEASE
SWITCH TEST
RELEASE AGING  
LENS COM CHECK
AF PINT DISP
DSP ADJ DAT READ
DSP ADJ DAT WRITE
EEPROM LOAD from FILE
EEPROM SAVE to FILE
EEPROM READ/WRITE
CPU ROM SAVE to FLE
DSP ROM SAVE to FILE
LENS ROM LOAD from FILE
LENS ROM SAVE to FILE
LENS ROM READ/WRITE
BOARD VER
DUST REDUCTION TEST
DSP CHIP VER

On quick inspection through the menus there doesn't seem to be a meter
sensitivity adjustment.

When you set the  debug mode to , when you go into the setup menu
there is now a "Test Mode" section with:

- Capture/System Test
- AF Test
- Strings Disp(lay) Test

I have no idea what capture/system test is supposed to do. AF test is
self explanatory, & the strings disp test just appears to be a list of
direct from camera print error messages.

Cheers,

Dave

On 2/11/07, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> THESE SERVICE MENUS CAN BE VERY USEFUL!
>
> Anybody know if the earlier & other model cameras
> like the istD DS DL DS2 DL2 K100D K110D have one and
> how to access them?
>
> If the AF system is menu servicable, other
> important things may be too, LIKE SYSTEM
> SENSITIVITY (metering) etc. I want to know.
> And like this poster states, these service
> menus ususally have settings "values" that
> if you jot down before you start experimenting
> you can always get it right back exactly where you started.

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Re: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

[Tom Simpson]

Mmm...if you can dump the EEPROM to the card, and then reload the EEPROM 
from a file...that imply that you could hack the ever-living hades out 
of this thing...somebody needs to do an EEPROM dump and then open it up 
in a text editor and see what there is to see...

-Tom

David Savage wrote:
> When you go into the hidden service menu it has this list:
>
> DEBUG MODE 
> CARDDOOR OPEN  
> WRITE CARD VNDR  
> SCRIPT EN MODE  
> USR DAT CLEAR
> DUMMY RELEASE
> SWITCH TEST
> RELEASE AGING  
> LENS COM CHECK
> AF PINT DISP
> DSP ADJ DAT READ
> DSP ADJ DAT WRITE
> EEPROM LOAD from FILE
> EEPROM SAVE to FILE
> EEPROM READ/WRITE
> CPU ROM SAVE to FLE
> DSP ROM SAVE to FILE
> LENS ROM LOAD from FILE
> LENS ROM SAVE to FILE
> LENS ROM READ/WRITE
> BOARD VER
> DUST REDUCTION TEST
> DSP CHIP VER
>
> On quick inspection through the menus there doesn't seem to be a meter
> sensitivity adjustment.
>
> When you set the  debug mode to , when you go into the setup menu
> there is now a "Test Mode" section with:
>
> - Capture/System Test
> - AF Test
> - Strings Disp(lay) Test
>
> I have no idea what capture/system test is supposed to do. AF test is
> self explanatory, & the strings disp test just appears to be a list of
> direct from camera print error messages.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
>
> On 2/11/07, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> THESE SERVICE MENUS CAN BE VERY USEFUL!
>>
>> Anybody know if the earlier & other model cameras
>> like the istD DS DL DS2 DL2 K100D K110D have one and
>> how to access them?
>>
>> If the AF system is menu servicable, other
>> important things may be too, LIKE SYSTEM
>> SENSITIVITY (metering) etc. I want to know.
>> And like this poster states, these service
>> menus ususally have settings "values" that
>> if you jot down before you start experimenting
>> you can always get it right back exactly where you started.
>> 
>
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Re: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

[Paul Stenquist]

Well, I did bookmark it, and I'll probably print it tomorrow when I'm  
on my desktop system. Good to know, as you say. Watching  
Winternationals drag racing qualifying now, so I'm on my laptop. Lots  
of plus 330 mph passes. Good stuff.
Paul
On Feb 10, 2007, at 10:01 PM, David Savage wrote:

> The beauty of this software adjustment is if you dial in tot much/too
> little focus compensation (it's a bar scale in um steps BTW), it's
> easily undone.
>
> But as I said, I'm not planning to fool with it, but it's good to know
> how to do it should I want to.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
>
> On 2/11/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I would want to rig a very sophisticated test rig before I tried
>> anything like that. It would have to include a precise scale and an
>> absolutely solid mount for the camera. However, my focus seems to be
>> quite precise, so I don't plan on trying this. Proceed with extreme
>> caution.
>> Paul
>> On Feb 10, 2007, at 9:36 PM, David Savage wrote:
>>
>>> That is so cool.
>>>
>>> I think I might have a slight front focus issue. But at the moment
>>> it's not big enough a problem for me to go fooling with it.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On 2/11/07, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 I haven't tried this yet but if you're interested see:

 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?
 forum=1036&message=22013971
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Re: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

[Digital Image Studio]

On 11/02/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When you go into the hidden service menu it has this list:
>
> DEBUG MODE 
> CARDDOOR OPEN  
> WRITE CARD VNDR  
> SCRIPT EN MODE  
> USR DAT CLEAR
> DUMMY RELEASE
> SWITCH TEST
> RELEASE AGING  
> LENS COM CHECK
> AF PINT DISP
> DSP ADJ DAT READ
> DSP ADJ DAT WRITE
> EEPROM LOAD from FILE
> EEPROM SAVE to FILE
> EEPROM READ/WRITE
> CPU ROM SAVE to FLE
> DSP ROM SAVE to FILE
> LENS ROM LOAD from FILE
> LENS ROM SAVE to FILE
> LENS ROM READ/WRITE
> BOARD VER
> DUST REDUCTION TEST
> DSP CHIP VER
>
> On quick inspection through the menus there doesn't seem to be a meter
> sensitivity adjustment.

The camera still seems to know its self as it's original project name,
KB241 (as that prefixes any saved data).

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Re: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

[Paul Stenquist]

Somebody would be John Francis.
Paul
On Feb 10, 2007, at 11:03 PM, Tom Simpson wrote:

> Mmm...if you can dump the EEPROM to the card, and then reload the  
> EEPROM
> from a file...that imply that you could hack the ever-living hades out
> of this thing...somebody needs to do an EEPROM dump and then open  
> it up
> in a text editor and see what there is to see...
>
> -Tom
>
> David Savage wrote:
>> When you go into the hidden service menu it has this list:
>>
>> DEBUG MODE 
>> CARDDOOR OPEN  
>> WRITE CARD VNDR  
>> SCRIPT EN MODE  
>> USR DAT CLEAR
>> DUMMY RELEASE
>> SWITCH TEST
>> RELEASE AGING  
>> LENS COM CHECK
>> AF PINT DISP
>> DSP ADJ DAT READ
>> DSP ADJ DAT WRITE
>> EEPROM LOAD from FILE
>> EEPROM SAVE to FILE
>> EEPROM READ/WRITE
>> CPU ROM SAVE to FLE
>> DSP ROM SAVE to FILE
>> LENS ROM LOAD from FILE
>> LENS ROM SAVE to FILE
>> LENS ROM READ/WRITE
>> BOARD VER
>> DUST REDUCTION TEST
>> DSP CHIP VER
>>
>> On quick inspection through the menus there doesn't seem to be a  
>> meter
>> sensitivity adjustment.
>>
>> When you set the  debug mode to , when you go into the setup menu
>> there is now a "Test Mode" section with:
>>
>> - Capture/System Test
>> - AF Test
>> - Strings Disp(lay) Test
>>
>> I have no idea what capture/system test is supposed to do. AF test is
>> self explanatory, & the strings disp test just appears to be a  
>> list of
>> direct from camera print error messages.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On 2/11/07, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> THESE SERVICE MENUS CAN BE VERY USEFUL!
>>>
>>> Anybody know if the earlier & other model cameras
>>> like the istD DS DL DS2 DL2 K100D K110D have one and
>>> how to access them?
>>>
>>> If the AF system is menu servicable, other
>>> important things may be too, LIKE SYSTEM
>>> SENSITIVITY (metering) etc. I want to know.
>>> And like this poster states, these service
>>> menus ususally have settings "values" that
>>> if you jot down before you start experimenting
>>> you can always get it right back exactly where you started.
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

[Digital Image Studio]

On 11/02/07, Tom Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mmm...if you can dump the EEPROM to the card, and then reload the EEPROM
> from a file...that imply that you could hack the ever-living hades out
> of this thing...somebody needs to do an EEPROM dump and then open it up
> in a text editor and see what there is to see...

How would you like to be the lucky person? ;-)

http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/kb421.zip

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Re: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

[Tom Simpson]

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Hey, I can read it!

Well, part of the first line, anyway...the next 4,217 lines are a bit 
fuzzy, though...


Decompiler, anyone?

-Tom

Digital Image Studio wrote:

On 11/02/07, Tom Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Mmm...if you can dump the EEPROM to the card, and then reload the EEPROM
from a file...that imply that you could hack the ever-living hades out
of this thing...somebody needs to do an EEPROM dump and then open it up
in a text editor and see what there is to see...



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http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/kb421.zip

  


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Re: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

[John Francis]

Not me.  I wouldn't touch hacking the PROM with a 10' pole.

On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 11:09:26PM -0500, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> Somebody would be John Francis.
> Paul
> On Feb 10, 2007, at 11:03 PM, Tom Simpson wrote:
> 
> > Mmm...if you can dump the EEPROM to the card, and then reload the  
> > EEPROM
> > from a file...that imply that you could hack the ever-living hades out
> > of this thing...somebody needs to do an EEPROM dump and then open  
> > it up
> > in a text editor and see what there is to see...
> >
> > -Tom
> >
> > David Savage wrote:
> >> When you go into the hidden service menu it has this list:
> >>
> >> DEBUG MODE 
> >> CARDDOOR OPEN  
> >> WRITE CARD VNDR  
> >> SCRIPT EN MODE  
> >> USR DAT CLEAR
> >> DUMMY RELEASE
> >> SWITCH TEST
> >> RELEASE AGING  
> >> LENS COM CHECK
> >> AF PINT DISP
> >> DSP ADJ DAT READ
> >> DSP ADJ DAT WRITE
> >> EEPROM LOAD from FILE
> >> EEPROM SAVE to FILE
> >> EEPROM READ/WRITE
> >> CPU ROM SAVE to FLE
> >> DSP ROM SAVE to FILE
> >> LENS ROM LOAD from FILE
> >> LENS ROM SAVE to FILE
> >> LENS ROM READ/WRITE
> >> BOARD VER
> >> DUST REDUCTION TEST
> >> DSP CHIP VER
> >>
> >> On quick inspection through the menus there doesn't seem to be a  
> >> meter
> >> sensitivity adjustment.
> >>
> >> When you set the  debug mode to , when you go into the setup menu
> >> there is now a "Test Mode" section with:
> >>
> >> - Capture/System Test
> >> - AF Test
> >> - Strings Disp(lay) Test
> >>
> >> I have no idea what capture/system test is supposed to do. AF test is
> >> self explanatory, & the strings disp test just appears to be a  
> >> list of
> >> direct from camera print error messages.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
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> >> Dave
> >>
> >> On 2/11/07, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> THESE SERVICE MENUS CAN BE VERY USEFUL!
> >>>
> >>> Anybody know if the earlier & other model cameras
> >>> like the istD DS DL DS2 DL2 K100D K110D have one and
> >>> how to access them?
> >>>
> >>> If the AF system is menu servicable, other
> >>> important things may be too, LIKE SYSTEM
> >>> SENSITIVITY (metering) etc. I want to know.
> >>> And like this poster states, these service
> >>> menus ususally have settings "values" that
> >>> if you jot down before you start experimenting
> >>> you can always get it right back exactly where you started.
> >>>
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Re: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

[Cotty]

On 11/2/07, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:

>DUMMY RELEASE

It's able to kick jco off the list?

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Re: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

[Cory Papenfuss]

>> Mmm...if you can dump the EEPROM to the card, and then reload the EEPROM
>> from a file...that imply that you could hack the ever-living hades out
>> of this thing...somebody needs to do an EEPROM dump and then open it up
>> in a text editor and see what there is to see...
>
> How would you like to be the lucky person? ;-)
>
> http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/kb421.zip
>
An interesting snippet  searching for strings in the DSP dump:
%dmm
   50
  100
  200
  400
  800
1600
3200
ISO AUTO

Hrm...

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Re: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

[Thibouille]

:D let's hack that one :)

2007/2/11, Cory Papenfuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> Mmm...if you can dump the EEPROM to the card, and then reload the EEPROM
> >> from a file...that imply that you could hack the ever-living hades out
> >> of this thing...somebody needs to do an EEPROM dump and then open it up
> >> in a text editor and see what there is to see...
> >
> > How would you like to be the lucky person? ;-)
> >
> > http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/kb421.zip
> >
> An interesting snippet  searching for strings in the DSP dump:
> %dmm
>50
>   100
>   200
>   400
>   800
> 1600
> 3200
> ISO AUTO
>
> Hrm...
>
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Re: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

[John Francis]

On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 11:08:13AM -0500, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
> >> Mmm...if you can dump the EEPROM to the card, and then reload the EEPROM
> >> from a file...that imply that you could hack the ever-living hades out
> >> of this thing...somebody needs to do an EEPROM dump and then open it up
> >> in a text editor and see what there is to see...
> >
> > How would you like to be the lucky person? ;-)
> >
> > http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/kb421.zip
> >
>   An interesting snippet  searching for strings in the DSP dump:
> %dmm
>50
>   100
>   200
>   400
>   800
> 1600
> 3200
> ISO AUTO

That's no surprise - we know at least one of the pre-production mules
had ISO 50-3200.  I'm not at all astonished to find that when Pentax
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Re: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

[Thibouille]

There are old strings in the frimware itselfand in the DSP output.
Both show a 50/3200iso capability (I mean strings were thought for). I
think they simply disabled 50/3200 iso. We/Pentax may unlock them.

Any idea of the CPU/DSP architecture? ARM/Mips? Other one?

2007/2/11, John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 11:08:13AM -0500, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
> > >> Mmm...if you can dump the EEPROM to the card, and then reload the EEPROM
> > >> from a file...that imply that you could hack the ever-living hades out
> > >> of this thing...somebody needs to do an EEPROM dump and then open it up
> > >> in a text editor and see what there is to see...
> > >
> > > How would you like to be the lucky person? ;-)
> > >
> > > http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/kb421.zip
> > >
> >   An interesting snippet  searching for strings in the DSP dump:
> > %dmm
> >50
> >   100
> >   200
> >   400
> >   800
> > 1600
> > 3200
> > ISO AUTO
>
> That's no surprise - we know at least one of the pre-production mules
> had ISO 50-3200.  I'm not at all astonished to find that when Pentax
> decided to restrict the range they left the old strings in the table.
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Re: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

[Digital Image Studio]

On 12/02/07, Thibouille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There are old strings in the frimware itselfand in the DSP output.
> Both show a 50/3200iso capability (I mean strings were thought for). I
> think they simply disabled 50/3200 iso. We/Pentax may unlock them.
>
> Any idea of the CPU/DSP architecture? ARM/Mips? Other one?

Possibly a Fujitsu MB91680 Image-Processing System LSI

http://www.fujitsu.com/downloads/EDG/binary/pdf/find/24-1e/3.pdf

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Re: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

[Peter Loveday]

Interesting.

I'm not sure that dumping the roms gives us anything that the firmware 
upgrade file didn't?  Its easy enough to have a look through that and find 
various strings etc.

Certainly would be possible to disassemble it, but it would be a huge task, 
and franky, I'd rather have a working camera :)

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Re: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

[Peter Loveday]

> Possibly a Fujitsu MB91680 Image-Processing System LSI

Indeed, looks like it.  Certainly from a quick look in the disassembler the 
CPU file is FR core code.

I am a little suprised how little is in the CPU file though... all the 
strings, etc are in the DSP file... I would've expected the menu system etc 
to be under CPU control.  Perhaps all video overlay updating is done by the 
DSP.

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Re: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

[David Savage]

Also for those with the DL, DS, DS2 & K100D



And for those with the *istD the power on button sequence is

1. INFO + AE-L + on/off switch
2. MENU - MENU - INFO

Although there isn't a focus system adjustment or as many options in
the D's menu.

Cheers,

Dave

On 2/11/07, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I haven't tried this yet but if you're interested see:
>
> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=22013971

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Re: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

[Cory Papenfuss]

> There are old strings in the frimware itselfand in the DSP output.
> Both show a 50/3200iso capability (I mean strings were thought for). I
> think they simply disabled 50/3200 iso. We/Pentax may unlock them.
>
> Any idea of the CPU/DSP architecture? ARM/Mips? Other one?
>
I wasn't able to find any obvious indicators for the K10D.  The 
firmware for my -DS has this in it:

Softune REALOS/FR is Realtime OS for FR Family, based on micro-ITRON 
COPYRIGHT(C) FUJITSU LIMITED 1994-1999

Seems unlikely that they'd switch CPUs unless they had to for 
performance or cost reasons.

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Re: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

[Cory Papenfuss]

> Also for those with the DL, DS, DS2 & K100D
>
> 
>
> And for those with the *istD the power on button sequence is
>
> 1. INFO + AE-L + on/off switch
> 2. MENU - MENU - INFO
>
> Although there isn't a focus system adjustment or as many options in
> the D's menu.
>
Neato... of course I don't have my -DS with me at the moment. 
Anyone know what options are tweakable on a -DS?  Not necessarily planning 
on touching anything, but it'd be good to know...

-Cory

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Re: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

[mike wilson]

Works for DL/2 also.

David Savage wrote:

> Also for those with the DL, DS, DS2 & K100D
> 
> 
> 
> And for those with the *istD the power on button sequence is
> 
> 1. INFO + AE-L + on/off switch
> 2. MENU - MENU - INFO
> 
> Although there isn't a focus system adjustment or as many options in
> the D's menu.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dave
> 
> On 2/11/07, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>I haven't tried this yet but if you're interested see:
>>
>>http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=22013971
> 
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