Re: Let me brag a bit --OT
It will be interesting to see how these brothers hold up, my canon lasted 12 years or so. On amazon.com in a couple of reviews they claimed it died in six months. Of course one has to take amazon.com reviews, and most others, with a grain of salt. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Mark Cassino wrote: graywolf wrote: Well, I solved my printer problem by getting a network laser printer, Well, by coincidence I just set up a Brother laserjet as a network printer this evening. The hardest part was drilling a hole in the floor to drop the network cable down into the basement and back up to the router. (Thankfully the second hole up to the router was already in the floor - remnants of an old steam heating system.) As usually, the Win x64 machine was fussy about getting setup but ultimately I managed to get all four PC's hooked into the printer via the wireless network. MUCH more cost effective and way faster than the inkjets it replaced. - MCC -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Let me brag a bit --OT
graywolf wrote: Well, I solved my printer problem by getting a network laser printer, Well, by coincidence I just set up a Brother laserjet as a network printer this evening. The hardest part was drilling a hole in the floor to drop the network cable down into the basement and back up to the router. (Thankfully the second hole up to the router was already in the floor - remnants of an old steam heating system.) As usually, the Win x64 machine was fussy about getting setup but ultimately I managed to get all four PC's hooked into the printer via the wireless network. MUCH more cost effective and way faster than the inkjets it replaced. - MCC -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, Michigan www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Let me brag a bit --OT
On Jun 7, 2007, at 3:44 AM, graywolf wrote: The thing is rated at 30 pages a minute. You will have noted that it only printed 10 pages a minute above. Three reasons for that: 1. duplex is a lot slower than one sided as the paper path for printing the second side is a lot longer than it is straight from the tray. 2. The printer slows down after a couple of minutes, apparently to keep the heat levels down. 3. They lie! IIRC the ppm ratings refer to multiple copies of the same page, so the print engine only needs to render it once. Last year we got a cheap Brother HL-2020 which, surprisingly, will quite happily work through a JetDirect box on the network. I was also surprised at its speed but it does leave a bit of a curl in the paper. We only have manual duplex though (and only from the Windows machine). - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Let me brag a bit --OT
Well, maybe I should give that a try and find out... OK printing 11 copies of a page, one side only, and timing from when the first one hit the tray to the last one hitting the tray (10 copies with nothing else being done) was just under 20 second which is 30+ pages per minute. So they were not lying. Start up from sleep was about 15 seconds, or about 1/2 minute for 11 copies from the time I hit OK. Definitely faster than the old printer... -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- David Mann wrote: On Jun 7, 2007, at 3:44 AM, graywolf wrote: The thing is rated at 30 pages a minute. You will have noted that it only printed 10 pages a minute above. Three reasons for that: 1. duplex is a lot slower than one sided as the paper path for printing the second side is a lot longer than it is straight from the tray. 2. The printer slows down after a couple of minutes, apparently to keep the heat levels down. 3. They lie! IIRC the ppm ratings refer to multiple copies of the same page, so the print engine only needs to render it once. Last year we got a cheap Brother HL-2020 which, surprisingly, will quite happily work through a JetDirect box on the network. I was also surprised at its speed but it does leave a bit of a curl in the paper. We only have manual duplex though (and only from the Windows machine). - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Let me brag a bit --OT
Well, I solved my printer problem by getting a network laser printer, thus did not have to worry about windows not working with the port. Super deal on a factory refurbished Brother HL-5250DN from Staples office supply's website ($150, new is $250). Strangely they do not give the printer setup password in any of the documentation, I finally found it in the FAQ on their website. Only then was I able to turn on the duplexer. As a test I printed out the user's guide which as usual these days came as a pdf on the CD. 130 pages, 65 sheets of paper, in 13 minutes. Then I realized that I had a 128mb ram chip that would fit it and upgraded the memory to a whopping 160mb. I printed out the song book for my Yamaha Keyboard, 152 pages, and with all that memory the printing box on windows closed in about a minute. Seems like the printer will take data just as fast as you can send it over the network. The thing is rated at 30 pages a minute. You will have noted that it only printed 10 pages a minute above. Three reasons for that: 1. duplex is a lot slower than one sided as the paper path for printing the second side is a lot longer than it is straight from the tray. 2. The printer slows down after a couple of minutes, apparently to keep the heat levels down. 3. They lie! Some interesting facts: The printer has a separate printing drum that is good for 25k pages and costs $150. The full toner is good for 7k pages and costs $100, there is a 1/2 full toner cart for 25% less money. At 100k pages the printer needs some maintenance that probably costs more than the list price of the printer ($400). The duplex unit bought separately costs $150. And extra paper tray costs $150. Something tells me that no one is going to have the 100k maintenance done, so that can be considered the life of the printer. I probably will replace the printer rather than get a new drum for it as that will be at least 5 years down the line and $150 is what I paid for the printer in the first place. OTH, I have blown away most of a ream of paper the first day. This is supposed to be a workgroup printer, and I guess you could expect to use it that way if you planned on replacing it fairly often. I have seen a lot of HP Laserjets run 250k pages a year and if someone needed that kind of volume this Brother printer would be stupidly expensive to own (I really wanted a used 2300DN but could not afford one). However for my personal use it seems to be a super printer and the price was only 50% higher than a set of Epson inks for the R200 which I only use for photos and labeling CD's because of the ink cost. Just to be slightly on topic, this is a 1200x1200 printer and I will have to see how it will do with BW photos. Since this laser printer replaces one that was about 15 year old technology, it is a real serious upgrade in capability for me. I guess that is worth having to eat rice and hotdogs for a month. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
