Re: Lightroom Question -- Subdirectories
FYI. Just a follow up. I have a hard disk dedicated to photos, and a master directory on that disk, labeled My Pictures (an XP thing). All other pictures are in subdirectories to that and some of those directories have subdirectories as well. I finally managed to solve my problem by importing the top directory, My Pictures. I imported into my existing Lightroom library. Now all my master directories and subdirectories show in Lightroom's library. Since I had already imported most of the subdirectories, it only took about 20-30 minutes, I imagine starting from scratch it might take an hour to an hour and a half. In the XP version of Lightroom how do to this is rather non-obvious. Because normally it looks like it won't let you import a directory that only contains subdirectories but no photos, as the import dialog will show Supported files in the file type and a directory without picture has no supported files. However, there is another button below the import button that says Choose Selected that only is enabled when the chosen import IS a directory without pictures. So highlighting a directory will enable that button and then one can import a directory without pictures. I am not totally positive that button was there in version 1.0. And probably everyone using Lightroom, XP version, knew this. But just in case someone read this thread and didn't, that is how it works. Later, Marnie :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom Question -- Subdirectories
Good to hear you've got it sussed out now, Marnie. :-) Can't speak to the oddities on the Windows XP platform, the facility to do this has been there all along in LR running on Mac OS X. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom Question -- Subdirectories
In a message dated 10/13/2007 12:57:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Good to hear you've got it sussed out now, Marnie. :-) Can't speak to the oddities on the Windows XP platform, the facility to do this has been there all along in LR running on Mac OS X. G = Could be. The plus thing does work the same, though. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom Question -- Subdirectories
In a message dated 10/10/2007 10:56:51 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - If I manipulate the Folders/files in Lightroom, the Finder immediately reflects the changes. Godfrey Er, cough, er, yes, Godfrey. I get all that -- the difference between the library and OS folders. I just needed to print out your post because it was dense to read, not because I don't get it. Although you may have forgotten, I am computer programmer. I may not know assembly language, and I may not understand some hardware things, like how a RAID card works, but I am highly highly computer literate. Although maybe it will help someone else. :-) Okay, it seems Lightroom will not behave the way I want when it comes to subdirectories. I made the mistake of not importing the top directories, although Lightroom didn't seem to allow me to. But I imported my Elements 5 catalogue and that is probably how top directories got skipped. I would prefer that subdirectories pictures only show in the subdirectory film strips not in the top directory film strips. The way Lightroom currently works, it makes my subdirectory structure sort of useless. So I guess I will have to make all subdirectories top directories. I already see two features that I wish Lightroom had. 1. An option/preference that can be selected to make pictures only show in subdirectory folders, not top directories. 2. A batch synchronize folders routine. Where one can pick out a HD or a top directory and have Lightroom synchronize the whole thing. Import pictures added since the last time the batch synchronization has been run. In my current library setup, for instance, my drive J is not at the top level. If I could have drive J at the top level (with no film strip), then I could click on it and synchronize folders and it could synchronize the whole drive. So some way to do a batch synchronization like that would be nice. Thanks for your answers though, you answered my questions in your first post. Marnie :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom Question -- Subdirectories
On Oct 11, 2007, at 7:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I made the mistake of not importing the top directories, although Lightroom didn't seem to allow me to. If you've already got the subdirectories imported, click the + button in the Folder panel and select the top level directory. It will re-sort the subdirectory tree properly even if you then click cancel, I believe. 2. A batch synchronize folders routine. Where one can pick out a HD or a top directory and have Lightroom synchronize the whole thing. That's exactly what it does now ... Click +, look at the import dialog, turn off everything you don't want, and it will bring in the entire tree and synchronize to current state. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom Question -- Subdirectories
In a message dated 10/11/2007 8:25:51 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Oct 11, 2007, at 7:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I made the mistake of not importing the top directories, although Lightroom didn't seem to allow me to. If you've already got the subdirectories imported, click the + button in the Folder panel and select the top level directory. It will re-sort the subdirectory tree properly even if you then click cancel, I believe. 2. A batch synchronize folders routine. Where one can pick out a HD or a top directory and have Lightroom synchronize the whole thing. That's exactly what it does now ... Click +, look at the import dialog, turn off everything you don't want, and it will bring in the entire tree and synchronize to current state. Godfrey == Aha! Thanks, Godfrey. Will definitely try it. (Didn't seem to do anything in 1.0, but must admit haven't thoroughly explored 1.2 yet.) Marnie :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom Question -- Subdirectories
On Oct 11, 2007, at 9:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aha! Thanks, Godfrey. Will definitely try it. (Didn't seem to do anything in 1.0, but must admit haven't thoroughly explored 1.2 yet.) It did the same thing in v1.0 and v1.1. I used this facility several times as I learned how to import and manage my directories of photo files ... :-) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Lightroom Question -- Subdirectories
I am finding Lightroom doesn't seem to handle subdirectories well. Or the way I would like, anyway. I am using Windows XP. For now, in the library, I am just trying to mirror what I have on disc. As I go through and do this I am renaming directories to have more descriptive names. They all have date stamps, I am keeping the date stamps but adding leading names. Like Fremont - 2006 04 13. Since Windows will do long and undash linked file names now, that will work. And in 1.2 I can use Lightroom to rename the directories. However, I have run into two problems. I've done some net searching and forum searching and haven't found an answer yet. When I imported (in location) my subdirectories lost the master directory name. For instance, I have a directory on my hard disk that is labeled Yosemite. In that directory are subdirectories that are date stamped, but Lightroom just imported the subdirectories and I lost the master directory/name, Yosemite. In other instance, I created a subdirectory through Lightroom in an existing directory and moved photos from the master directory to the subdirectory. But although the pictures show up in the Lightroom library in the subdirectory, they also show up in the master directory. I don't like that. I have looked in the actual directory on disc and have found they HAVE been moved, but they still show up in the master directory. Doing a remove (without delete) from library for the master directory will remove them from both the master directory and the subdirectory in the library. So I've had to synchronize folders and it puts the pics showing both back in the subdirectory and the master directory. I don't like the way like Lightroom handles subdirectories. I may have to resort to moving all subdirectories out to become their own master directories. 1. Is there any way to show the master directory name for a subdirectory when importing? 2. Is there any way to have the pics in the library only show in the subdirectory and not in the master directory as well? TIA, Marnie aka Doe Sorry for the long explanation, kind of hard to figure out how to word these questions. - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom Question -- Subdirectories
On Oct 10, 2007, at 7:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am finding Lightroom doesn't seem to handle subdirectories well. Or the way I would like, anyway. Most probably the way I would like is the more accurate expression... ;-) ... 1. Is there any way to show the master directory name for a subdirectory when importing? 2. Is there any way to have the pics in the library only show in the subdirectory and not in the master directory as well? 1: In the Library module, the Folder panel is an exact reflection of the file system on the hard drive. How you import the folder structure influences what you see there, however. Let's say you have a structure on disk like this: 2006 - All My Pictures Misc Junk Photos Work In Progress 20060105 - Birthday Party 20060321 - San Jose - Trip to Opera 20061019 - Drive to Albuquerque Projects 20060411 - My First Exhibit 20060923 - client portrait shoot in sf 20061202 - ebay horrible old Canon consumer lenses If you want that whole folder tree to import into Lightroom, but don't want the Misc Junk Photos branch to appear, Import in place starting with the top level directory (2006 - All My Pictures). In the import dialog which comes up, exclude the Misc Junk Photos sub- directory tree. Manipulations of the directory tree in Lightroom's Folder panel will be reflected from that point on in the file system exactly. (This is probably obvious, but it should be stated for completeness: In the Library module, the Collections panel is maintained only in the Lightroom catalog and does not in and of itself reflect the file system at all. Only the Folder panel view reflects the file system structure.) 2: There behavior of Lightroom is to show all files in a directory tree starting at the root and recursing down to the leaf nodes. So if you imported the above and clicked on the Work In Progress node, it would show all the files in the three subdirectories in the Grid view. If you click on any of the leaf nodes, you will see only the files in that leaf node. This implies a file system structure that puts image files ONLY in the leaf nodes works best, rather than having a set of directories containing both image files and directory nodes, so that you can see each set of files independent of the contents of subdirectory trees that might exist. (You can look at a combined Grid view of, say, 20060105 - Birthday Party and 20060411 - My First Exhibit by Alt-Clicking just those two leaf nodes in the Folder view, excluding the others.) The above directory structure is the way I've been organizing my work for some time even prior to using Lightroom. It probably isn't exactly what you wanted. However, it works well given Lightroom's Folder panel display behavior. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom Question -- Subdirectories
In a message dated 10/10/2007 8:58:05 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The above directory structure is the way I've been organizing my work for some time even prior to using Lightroom. It probably isn't exactly what you wanted. However, it works well given Lightroom's Folder panel display behavior. Godfrey Thanks, Godfrey. Going to have to print out what you said and read it over and see if it makes sense to me re my experience. Re understand about collections and folders, which is why right now I just want to mirror what's on disc. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom Question -- Subdirectories
On Oct 10, 2007, at 9:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...The above directory structure is the way I've been organizing my work for some time even prior to using Lightroom. It probably isn't exactly what you wanted. However, it works well given Lightroom's Folder panel display behavior. Thanks, Godfrey. Going to have to print out what you said and read it over and see if it makes sense to me re my experience. Re understand about collections and folders, which is why right now I just want to mirror what's on disc. A quick example: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/LR-folder_v_files.jpg On the left is the display of the file system as seen in the Finder on Mac OS X. On the right is the Lightroom view of the file system in the Folders panel. Note that I've chosen to only import certain parts of the 2007 directory tree into the database, and all the subdirectories are leaf nodes ... there's no enabled disclosure triangle for them in the Lightroom view, they are seen in the FilmStrip panel on the bottom of the display or in the Grid view. In the Finder view, clicking on the disclosure triangle would show the image files icons listed in each directory. (Windows Explorer can produce a view very similar to this List View in the Finder, but there are some subtle differences in how it behaves relative to the Mac OS X Finder. Lightroom behaves the same on both, far as I can tell.) - If I manipulate the file system structure in the Finder, Lightroom will automatically update the Folder view to accommodate those changes if the directory tree is local and not to another volume. If I add files in the Finder, I need to tell Lightroom to synchronize the Folder view and import new files. - If I manipulate the Folders/files in Lightroom, the Finder immediately reflects the changes. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
