Re: Lithium AA's if manual doesn't specify?

2005-06-02 Thread Margus Mnnik

Hi there,

that's true for Lithium rechargeables only. Conventional batteries are 
fine, but Li-Ion rechargeables can really damage the camera if the 
electronics is not designed to work with 'em. Would be a bit long to 
explain why...


BR, Margus


Joe Wilensky wrote:


I found this in the technical FAQ section:

4. Never use manganese or lithium batteries, as these battery types 
may overheat in the camera.


Do the new lithium AA batteries (and so many other lithium photo 
batteries) really get hotter than other types?


Joe


- Original Message - From: Joe Wilensky Subject: OT: 
Lithium AA's if manual doesn't specify?


I've picked up a small digital point-and-shoot (not Pentax), and it 
takes AA batteries. The manual mentions using alkalines and 
recommends NiMH rechargeable AA batteries, but says not a word about 
using lithium AA batteries. This is a fairly current camera (2004, 
discontinued this year). Is there any reason I can't use lithium AA 
batteries in this camera?



no.

William Robb








RE: Lithium AA's if manual doesn't specify?

2005-06-02 Thread Leon Mlakar

http://store.sundancesolar.com/aareba.html

Here in Slovenia I can still get Rayovac, but they appear to be discontinued
by Rayovac. Maybe some old stock is still around.

Cheers,

Leon 

-Original Message-
From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:27 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Lithium AA's if manual doesn't specify?

i can't find them in the US anymore.

Herb
- Original Message -
From: Leon Mlakar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:16 PM
Subject: RE: Lithium AA's if manual doesn't specify?



 Why don't you try rechargable alkaline AA's? I've been using 
them for some
 time in my (seldom used) flash. They have the shelf life of 
ordinary AA's 
 so
 I know that it'll work when picked up, even though I didn't recharge
 batteries last week. Unlike NiMh that work at 1.2V they work 
at 1.5V of
 ordinary alkalines. True, rechargable alkalines are only 
good for a 100 or
 so recharge cycles but that, I suppose, should not be an issue.






OT: Lithium AA's if manual doesn't specify?

2005-06-01 Thread Joe Wilensky
I've picked up a small digital point-and-shoot (not Pentax), and it 
takes AA batteries. The manual mentions using alkalines and 
recommends NiMH rechargeable AA batteries, but says not a word about 
using lithium AA batteries. This is a fairly current camera (2004, 
discontinued this year). Is there any reason I can't use lithium AA 
batteries in this camera?


Joe
--

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Editor, Cornell Chronicle
Cornell News Office
312 College Ave.
Ithaca, NY 14850

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Re: Lithium AA's if manual doesn't specify?

2005-06-01 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Joe Wilensky 
Subject: OT: Lithium AA's if manual doesn't specify?



I've picked up a small digital point-and-shoot (not Pentax), and it 
takes AA batteries. The manual mentions using alkalines and 
recommends NiMH rechargeable AA batteries, but says not a word about 
using lithium AA batteries. This is a fairly current camera (2004, 
discontinued this year). Is there any reason I can't use lithium AA 
batteries in this camera?


no.

William Robb



Re: Lithium AA's if manual doesn't specify?

2005-06-01 Thread Joe Wilensky

I found this in the technical FAQ section:

4. Never use manganese or lithium batteries, as these battery types 
may overheat in the camera.


Do the new lithium AA batteries (and so many other lithium photo 
batteries) really get hotter than other types?


Joe


- Original Message - From: Joe Wilensky Subject: OT: 
Lithium AA's if manual doesn't specify?


I've picked up a small digital point-and-shoot (not Pentax), and it 
takes AA batteries. The manual mentions using alkalines and 
recommends NiMH rechargeable AA batteries, but says not a word 
about using lithium AA batteries. This is a fairly current camera 
(2004, discontinued this year). Is there any reason I can't use 
lithium AA batteries in this camera?


no.

William Robb



--

Joe Wilensky
Editor, Cornell Chronicle
Cornell News Office
312 College Ave.
Ithaca, NY 14850

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(607) 255-3630 phone/voice mail
(607) 255-5373 fax

http://www.news.cornell.edu/Chronicle/Chronicle.html



RE: Lithium AA's if manual doesn't specify?

2005-06-01 Thread Don Sanderson
Never noticed them getting even warm in the D or
its AA battery pack.
Not even when using the flash or LCD constantly.
And the life of Lithiums is nothing short of amazing.
Seems to me that of all of the newer digis that use a
special battery pack, that pack is Lithium.

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Joe Wilensky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 1:43 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Lithium AA's if manual doesn't specify?
 
 
 I found this in the technical FAQ section:
 
 4. Never use manganese or lithium batteries, as these battery types 
 may overheat in the camera.
 
 Do the new lithium AA batteries (and so many other lithium photo 
 batteries) really get hotter than other types?
 
 Joe
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Joe Wilensky Subject: OT: 
 Lithium AA's if manual doesn't specify?
 
 I've picked up a small digital point-and-shoot (not Pentax), and it 
 takes AA batteries. The manual mentions using alkalines and 
 recommends NiMH rechargeable AA batteries, but says not a word 
 about using lithium AA batteries. This is a fairly current camera 
 (2004, discontinued this year). Is there any reason I can't use 
 lithium AA batteries in this camera?
 
 no.
 
 William Robb
 
 
 -- 
 
 Joe Wilensky
 Editor, Cornell Chronicle
 Cornell News Office
 312 College Ave.
 Ithaca, NY 14850
 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (607) 255-3630 phone/voice mail
 (607) 255-5373 fax
 
 http://www.news.cornell.edu/Chronicle/Chronicle.html
 



Re: Lithium AA's if manual doesn't specify?

2005-06-01 Thread Thibouille
Yes but voltage is higher than usual AA batteries AFAIR
That may be the problem.

2005/6/1, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Never noticed them getting even warm in the D or
 its AA battery pack.
 Not even when using the flash or LCD constantly.
 And the life of Lithiums is nothing short of amazing.
 Seems to me that of all of the newer digis that use a
 special battery pack, that pack is Lithium.
 
 Don
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Joe Wilensky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 1:43 PM
  To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
  Subject: Re: Lithium AA's if manual doesn't specify?
 
 
  I found this in the technical FAQ section:
 
  4. Never use manganese or lithium batteries, as these battery types
  may overheat in the camera.
 
  Do the new lithium AA batteries (and so many other lithium photo
  batteries) really get hotter than other types?
 
  Joe
 
 
  - Original Message - From: Joe Wilensky Subject: OT:
  Lithium AA's if manual doesn't specify?
  
  I've picked up a small digital point-and-shoot (not Pentax), and it
  takes AA batteries. The manual mentions using alkalines and
  recommends NiMH rechargeable AA batteries, but says not a word
  about using lithium AA batteries. This is a fairly current camera
  (2004, discontinued this year). Is there any reason I can't use
  lithium AA batteries in this camera?
  
  no.
  
  William Robb
 
 
  --
 
  Joe Wilensky
  Editor, Cornell Chronicle
  Cornell News Office
  312 College Ave.
  Ithaca, NY 14850
 
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  (607) 255-3630 phone/voice mail
  (607) 255-5373 fax
 
  http://www.news.cornell.edu/Chronicle/Chronicle.html
 
 
 


-- 
--
Thibouille
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RE: Lithium AA's if manual doesn't specify?

2005-06-01 Thread Leon Mlakar

Why don't you try rechargable alkaline AA's? I've been using them for some
time in my (seldom used) flash. They have the shelf life of ordinary AA's so
I know that it'll work when picked up, even though I didn't recharge
batteries last week. Unlike NiMh that work at 1.2V they work at 1.5V of
ordinary alkalines. True, rechargable alkalines are only good for a 100 or
so recharge cycles but that, I suppose, should not be an issue.

Cheers,

Leon

-Original Message-
From: Joe Wilensky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:21 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: OT: Lithium AA's if manual doesn't specify?

I've picked up a small digital point-and-shoot (not Pentax), 
and it takes AA batteries. The manual mentions using alkalines 
and recommends NiMH rechargeable AA batteries, but says not a 
word about using lithium AA batteries. This is a fairly 
current camera (2004, discontinued this year). Is there any 
reason I can't use lithium AA batteries in this camera?

Joe
-- 

Joe Wilensky
Editor, Cornell Chronicle
Cornell News Office
312 College Ave.
Ithaca, NY 14850

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(607) 255-3630 phone/voice mail
(607) 255-5373 fax

http://www.news.cornell.edu/Chronicle/Chronicle.html




Re: Lithium AA's if manual doesn't specify?

2005-06-01 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Joe Wilensky 
Subject: Re: Lithium AA's if manual doesn't specify?




I found this in the technical FAQ section:

4. Never use manganese or lithium batteries, as these battery types 
may overheat in the camera.


Well slap my face.
May I rephrase my answer?

William Robb



Re: Lithium AA's if manual doesn't specify?

2005-06-01 Thread Herb Chong

a lawyer's may and a users may are two different things.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: Joe Wilensky [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: Lithium AA's if manual doesn't specify?



I found this in the technical FAQ section:

4. Never use manganese or lithium batteries, as these battery types 
may overheat in the camera.


Do the new lithium AA batteries (and so many other lithium photo 
batteries) really get hotter than other types?





Re: Lithium AA's if manual doesn't specify?

2005-06-01 Thread Herb Chong

i can't find them in the US anymore.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: Leon Mlakar [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:16 PM
Subject: RE: Lithium AA's if manual doesn't specify?




Why don't you try rechargable alkaline AA's? I've been using them for some
time in my (seldom used) flash. They have the shelf life of ordinary AA's 
so

I know that it'll work when picked up, even though I didn't recharge
batteries last week. Unlike NiMh that work at 1.2V they work at 1.5V of
ordinary alkalines. True, rechargable alkalines are only good for a 100 or
so recharge cycles but that, I suppose, should not be an issue.





Re: OT: Lithium AA's if manual doesn't specify?

2005-06-01 Thread Scott Loveless
Lithium batteries should be fine.  This link
http://dpfwiw.com/batteries.htm#lithium2 is to an article recommending
NiMH rechargeables, but also says good things about lithium.  The only
drawback - they're not rechargeable.

On 6/1/05, Joe Wilensky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've picked up a small digital point-and-shoot (not Pentax), and it
 takes AA batteries. The manual mentions using alkalines and
 recommends NiMH rechargeable AA batteries, but says not a word about
 using lithium AA batteries. This is a fairly current camera (2004,
 discontinued this year). Is there any reason I can't use lithium AA
 batteries in this camera?
 
 Joe
 --
 
 Joe Wilensky
 Editor, Cornell Chronicle
 Cornell News Office
 312 College Ave.
 Ithaca, NY 14850
 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (607) 255-3630 phone/voice mail
 (607) 255-5373 fax
 
 http://www.news.cornell.edu/Chronicle/Chronicle.html
 
 


-- 
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http://www.twosixteen.com

--
You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman



Re: Lithium AA's if manual doesn't specify?

2005-06-01 Thread Scott Loveless
That's not quite right.  Lithium batteries maintain a more constant
voltage for a longer time and then drop off suddenly, whereas
alkalines and rechargeable NiMH batteries tend to have a gradual drop
off in voltage.


On 6/1/05, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes but voltage is higher than usual AA batteries AFAIR
 That may be the problem.
 
 2005/6/1, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Never noticed them getting even warm in the D or
  its AA battery pack.
  Not even when using the flash or LCD constantly.
  And the life of Lithiums is nothing short of amazing.
  Seems to me that of all of the newer digis that use a
  special battery pack, that pack is Lithium.
 
  Don
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Joe Wilensky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 1:43 PM
   To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
   Subject: Re: Lithium AA's if manual doesn't specify?
  
  
   I found this in the technical FAQ section:
  
   4. Never use manganese or lithium batteries, as these battery types
   may overheat in the camera.
  
   Do the new lithium AA batteries (and so many other lithium photo
   batteries) really get hotter than other types?
  
   Joe
  
  
   - Original Message - From: Joe Wilensky Subject: OT:
   Lithium AA's if manual doesn't specify?
   
   I've picked up a small digital point-and-shoot (not Pentax), and it
   takes AA batteries. The manual mentions using alkalines and
   recommends NiMH rechargeable AA batteries, but says not a word
   about using lithium AA batteries. This is a fairly current camera
   (2004, discontinued this year). Is there any reason I can't use
   lithium AA batteries in this camera?
   
   no.
   
   William Robb
  
  
   --
  
   Joe Wilensky
   Editor, Cornell Chronicle
   Cornell News Office
   312 College Ave.
   Ithaca, NY 14850
  
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   (607) 255-3630 phone/voice mail
   (607) 255-5373 fax
  
   http://www.news.cornell.edu/Chronicle/Chronicle.html
  
 
 
 
 
 --
 --
 Thibouille
 --
 Z1,SuperA,KX,MX,P30t and KR-10x ...
 
 


-- 
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http://www.twosixteen.com

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You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman