Re: Loading Film in LX [was: Didya miss me?]
It's different for me. Sometimes the cap's on, sometimes off, sometimes there's no lens on the camera, sometimes there's a lens with a hood, sometimes I'm at home, sometimes in my car or out on the street. I just don't worry or think much about it. If the cap's on, I'll be removing it for shooting anyway, 'cause once the film is in the camera there's usually no reason to have the lens capped. Stan Halpin wrote: > I typically have the lens cap on when loading film for the simple > reason that my grip on the camera during film loading is not the same as any > other time. The camera is more like cupped, lens surface down, in the palm > of my left hand while I do the magic-fingers bit with my right hand. I doubt > that I would actually smear body oils all over the front of the lens in the > process, but why mess with it? I put on the cap, turn the speed dial to 250 > or so, load and advance the film, reset the speed dial, take the cap off, > and go on from there . . . > > Stan > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Loading Film in LX [was: Didya miss me?]
> From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 07:41:45 -0800 > Subject: Re: Loading Film in LX [was: Didya miss me?] > > What difference does it make if the cap's on or off when loading the > film? So you expose a couple of frames of your foot, or the floor, or a > wall ... I don't understand the need to have the cap on. > Shel - I typically have the lens cap on when loading film for the simple reason that my grip on the camera during film loading is not the same as any other time. The camera is more like cupped, lens surface down, in the palm of my left hand while I do the magic-fingers bit with my right hand. I doubt that I would actually smear body oils all over the front of the lens in the process, but why mess with it? I put on the cap, turn the speed dial to 250 or so, load and advance the film, reset the speed dial, take the cap off, and go on from there . . . Stan - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: Loading Film in LX [was: Didya miss me?]
On Saturday, January 5, 2002, at 01:09 PM, Fred wrote: > > Har! "Belinkoffitis"? I ~love~ the concept... Wait, wait... doesn't that mean inflammation of the Belinkoff?? -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Loading Film in LX [was: Didya miss me?]
Ann wrote: > I see the word "program" and I immediately have an attack of > belinkoffitis ;) Ah, but Ann --- it's *super* program, not that wimpy "do-it-all program" !8^D - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Loading Film in LX [was: Didya miss me?]
Now, there is my arguement abainst automatic cameras in a nutshell. If your camera is manual only you can not forget to turn it back to auto. And, you know you rather than the camera have to set the exposure. Setting a compensation dial is more of a hassle than just clicking open or closesd a stop or so, and you don't forget to put it back to normal because the next shot you are going to change the exposure anyway. If the lighting is steady you can take a general reading and just shoot away until the light changes, the camera will not change the exposure because the is something dark or something light in the frame, so you get more consistant exposures. Same wiht AF, if you have to focus you do it, if you leave it to the camera it may be shut off or it may focus on the wrong thing. Also, zone focus is far, far faster than AF for those crithcal shots. The thing that I have found is that when I use an auto camera, I become dependent on it and forget to compensate for its limitations. That is in my experience a very real human limitation. Ciao, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 10:06 AM Subject: Loading Film in LX [was: Didya miss me?] > > Hi, set the LX to 1/2000`s when putting in film. VERY IMPORTANT: > > remember to set it back to what you want after you`re done. > > I would add just a little suggestion of my own to your suggestion, > Steve: > > I tend to keep my LX's in the Auto shutter dial position (for > aperture-preferred autoexposure mode) for most (probably 90%) of my > shooting, and only switch to manual as a deliberate action for a > particular shooting situation. One disadvantage of the Auto > position is that one can't load film with the shutter dial set to > Auto, since (if light is being blocked from entering the body) the > LX will just hold the shutter open indefinitely (or so it would > seem). > > Now, for me, the problem is that, if I use 1/2000 for loading film, > I potentially can (easily) forget to put the shutter dial back on > Auto (and indeed, in a few "senior moments", I have literally done > just that, ruining some exposures for a few frames until I noticed > my blatant stupidity). Your "VERY IMPORTANT" warning, Steve is very > a good one to make. > > I now (and it's even become automatic with me, having done this for > a while) set the shutter speed to 1/60, 1/30, or 1/15 (not critical) > for loading film. The advantage of this is that the shutter sound > at slower speeds is distinctive, and, if I forget to put the shutter > dial back on Auto, my error of omission is audibly obvious with my > very first mistaken exposure. (The disadvantage of doing this is > that it is a little more of a nuisance to rotate the shutter dial > all the way to some slow speed and back, compared to using 1/2000, > which is only "one click away" from Auto.) > > By the way, the necessity of not leaving the shutter dial at 1/2000 > (instead of resetting to Auto) is evident whether one is using flash > or not. For natural light, 1/2000 is usually not going to be a > suitable speed just "by luck", although this depends on the film > speed, aperture, and lighting, of course. Then, the problem with > using flash at 1/2000 is that (unlike when properly set to Auto or > X) there is no flash sync set, so one doesn't even have a prayer of > getting a "lucky" exposure. (And, unfortunately, I can speak from > experience on both of these situations - .) > > The Super Program and Super A, with their automatic loading speed of > 1/1000, are more "idiot-proof" for nincompoops like me - . > > Fred > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Loading Film in LX [was: Didya miss me?]
Take two aspirin and call me in the morning ... AnnSan snickered: > I see the word "program" and I immediately > have an attack of belinkoffitis ;) -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: Loading Film in LX [was: Didya miss me?]
>> The Super Program and Super A, with their automatic loading speed >> of 1/1000, are more "idiot-proof" for nincompoops like me - . > I see the word "program" and I immediately have an attack of > belinkoffitis ;) Har! "Belinkoffitis"? I ~love~ the concept... Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Loading Film in LX [was: Didya miss me?]
Fred, that is an excellent idea, thanks! I will try to remember to load film at 1/30`s from now on, as 1/2000`s is not discernable by ear, but 1/30`s is. The Super Program has its pros and cons about the first three frames set at 1/1000`s automatically, it is idiot proof (which I like), but do you really need three frames? Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 7:06 AM Subject: Loading Film in LX [was: Didya miss me?] > > Hi, set the LX to 1/2000`s when putting in film. VERY IMPORTANT: > > remember to set it back to what you want after you`re done. > > I would add just a little suggestion of my own to your suggestion, > Steve: > > I tend to keep my LX's in the Auto shutter dial position (for > aperture-preferred autoexposure mode) for most (probably 90%) of my > shooting, and only switch to manual as a deliberate action for a > particular shooting situation. One disadvantage of the Auto > position is that one can't load film with the shutter dial set to > Auto, since (if light is being blocked from entering the body) the > LX will just hold the shutter open indefinitely (or so it would > seem). > > Now, for me, the problem is that, if I use 1/2000 for loading film, > I potentially can (easily) forget to put the shutter dial back on > Auto (and indeed, in a few "senior moments", I have literally done > just that, ruining some exposures for a few frames until I noticed > my blatant stupidity). Your "VERY IMPORTANT" warning, Steve is very > a good one to make. > > I now (and it's even become automatic with me, having done this for > a while) set the shutter speed to 1/60, 1/30, or 1/15 (not critical) > for loading film. The advantage of this is that the shutter sound > at slower speeds is distinctive, and, if I forget to put the shutter > dial back on Auto, my error of omission is audibly obvious with my > very first mistaken exposure. (The disadvantage of doing this is > that it is a little more of a nuisance to rotate the shutter dial > all the way to some slow speed and back, compared to using 1/2000, > which is only "one click away" from Auto.) > > By the way, the necessity of not leaving the shutter dial at 1/2000 > (instead of resetting to Auto) is evident whether one is using flash > or not. For natural light, 1/2000 is usually not going to be a > suitable speed just "by luck", although this depends on the film > speed, aperture, and lighting, of course. Then, the problem with > using flash at 1/2000 is that (unlike when properly set to Auto or > X) there is no flash sync set, so one doesn't even have a prayer of > getting a "lucky" exposure. (And, unfortunately, I can speak from > experience on both of these situations - .) > > The Super Program and Super A, with their automatic loading speed of > 1/1000, are more "idiot-proof" for nincompoops like me - . > > Fred > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Loading Film in LX [was: Didya miss me?]
What difference does it make if the cap's on or off when loading the film? So you expose a couple of frames of your foot, or the floor, or a wall ... I don't understand the need to have the cap on. [And yes, I missed Jody] Fred wrote: > > > Hi, set the LX to 1/2000`s when putting in film. VERY IMPORTANT: > > remember to set it back to what you want after you`re done. > > I would add just a little suggestion of my own to your suggestion, > Steve: > > I tend to keep my LX's in the Auto shutter dial position (for > aperture-preferred autoexposure mode) for most (probably 90%) of my > shooting, and only switch to manual as a deliberate action for a > particular shooting situation. One disadvantage of the Auto > position is that one can't load film with the shutter dial set to > Auto, since (if light is being blocked from entering the body) the > LX will just hold the shutter open indefinitely (or so it would > seem). -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ "Faster horses, younger women, older whiskey, more money" - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Loading Film in LX [was: Didya miss me?]
> Hi, set the LX to 1/2000`s when putting in film. VERY IMPORTANT: > remember to set it back to what you want after you`re done. I would add just a little suggestion of my own to your suggestion, Steve: I tend to keep my LX's in the Auto shutter dial position (for aperture-preferred autoexposure mode) for most (probably 90%) of my shooting, and only switch to manual as a deliberate action for a particular shooting situation. One disadvantage of the Auto position is that one can't load film with the shutter dial set to Auto, since (if light is being blocked from entering the body) the LX will just hold the shutter open indefinitely (or so it would seem). Now, for me, the problem is that, if I use 1/2000 for loading film, I potentially can (easily) forget to put the shutter dial back on Auto (and indeed, in a few "senior moments", I have literally done just that, ruining some exposures for a few frames until I noticed my blatant stupidity). Your "VERY IMPORTANT" warning, Steve is very a good one to make. I now (and it's even become automatic with me, having done this for a while) set the shutter speed to 1/60, 1/30, or 1/15 (not critical) for loading film. The advantage of this is that the shutter sound at slower speeds is distinctive, and, if I forget to put the shutter dial back on Auto, my error of omission is audibly obvious with my very first mistaken exposure. (The disadvantage of doing this is that it is a little more of a nuisance to rotate the shutter dial all the way to some slow speed and back, compared to using 1/2000, which is only "one click away" from Auto.) By the way, the necessity of not leaving the shutter dial at 1/2000 (instead of resetting to Auto) is evident whether one is using flash or not. For natural light, 1/2000 is usually not going to be a suitable speed just "by luck", although this depends on the film speed, aperture, and lighting, of course. Then, the problem with using flash at 1/2000 is that (unlike when properly set to Auto or X) there is no flash sync set, so one doesn't even have a prayer of getting a "lucky" exposure. (And, unfortunately, I can speak from experience on both of these situations - .) The Super Program and Super A, with their automatic loading speed of 1/1000, are more "idiot-proof" for nincompoops like me - . Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
