Re: MF or MF: was: Anyone shoot MF exclusively?
It's a matter of context. In the narrow context of a focus mode selector I'm sure most or all people understand what the labels mean. Besides, l've never seen lower case letters used to label acronyms on switches or dials. Even so, IMO medium format has the prior claim over manual focus to the use of that acronym (MF) in the wide context of all photography. Manual focus will have to be content with mf, MANF, manf, manF or anything else apart from MF. Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Artur Ledóchowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] (quoted earlier message snipped) Hmmm... perhaps producers should should be informed about this, since they confuse the matter placing the AF and MF marks on their 35mm babies, near focus mode switches...:) Greetz Artur - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MF or MF: was: Anyone shoot MF exclusively?
Misprint, I meant BTW (for by the way) but had a lysdexic moment :) There's no denseness in not comprehending my gibberish, so no apology is needed. Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is BTY? I apologize for being dense, too... Fred - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MF or MF: was: Anyone shoot MF exclusively?
AF MF has always meant medium format, and it is not the prerogative of the AF members of one brand specific mailing list to overturn a long established AF tradition. AF Regards, AF Anthony Farr Oh, Anthony, you take the most fun out of life :) Don't take it so seriously... Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MF or MF: was: Anyone shoot MF exclusively?
True enough, but don't hold your breath waiting for the wide world of photography to follow your lead. I for one will not contradict the established usage. BTY I'm not deaf. Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] (snip) THE MEMBERS OF THE PDML HAVE ~EVERY~ RIGHT (I.E., IT IS ~ENTIRELY~ WITHIN THEIR PREROGATIVE) TO DECIDE SOMETHING FOR THEMSELVES, ~REGARDLESS~ WHAT SOME LONG ESTABLISHED TRADITION MIGHT BE ELSEWHERE !!! (And the fact that we could probably never all get together and agree to any one thing is not relevant to the truth of the previous paragraph.) Fred - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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- Original Message - Subject: Re: MF or MF: was: Anyone shoot MF exclusively? AF MF has always meant medium format, and it is not the prerogative of the AF members of one brand specific mailing list to overturn a long established AF tradition. AF Regards, AF Anthony Farr Hmmm... perhaps producers should should be informed about this, since they confuse the matter placing the AF and MF marks on their 35mm babies, near focus mode switches...:) Greetz Artur - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MF or MF: was: Anyone shoot MF exclusively?
Artur, I think that, in this case, where there probably wasn't room to spell out the words, the context makes the meaning perfectly clear. After all, you can always Read The Friendly Manual (RTFM) if you are not sure. We have had some messages here where there was no clue in the context, in which case all we can do is assume the widely accepted meaning. I've never been too lazy to spell things out when I think there may be doubt or confusion. If a person's point is worth communicating, it's worth being sure that everyone understands what he, or she, meant. Len --- Hmmm... perhaps producers should should be informed about this, since they confuse the matter placing the AF and MF marks on their 35mm babies, near focus mode switches...:) Greetz Artur - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MF or MF: was: Anyone shoot MF exclusively?
Actually it means Massey-Furguson. MF is painted right on their tractors. On the other hand it means something that starts with moth and and ends with ker. But, then you are welcome to use it however you wish. Ciao, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 8:52 AM Subject: Re: MF or MF: was: Anyone shoot MF exclusively? True enough, but don't hold your breath waiting for the wide world of photography to follow your lead. I for one will not contradict the established usage. BTY I'm not deaf. Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] (snip) THE MEMBERS OF THE PDML HAVE ~EVERY~ RIGHT (I.E., IT IS ~ENTIRELY~ WITHIN THEIR PREROGATIVE) TO DECIDE SOMETHING FOR THEMSELVES, ~REGARDLESS~ WHAT SOME LONG ESTABLISHED TRADITION MIGHT BE ELSEWHERE !!! (And the fact that we could probably never all get together and agree to any one thing is not relevant to the truth of the previous paragraph.) Fred - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MF or MF: was: Anyone shoot MF exclusively?
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 16:15:41 -0500, Tom Rittenhouse wrote: Actually it means Massey-Furguson. MF is painted right on their tractors. On the other hand it means something that starts with moth and and ends with ker. But, then you are welcome to use it however you wish. Tom, You owe me a monitor. Not sure that Coke mixes to well with the electrons floating around in them. :-) Later, Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MF or MF: was: Anyone shoot MF exclusively?
True enough, but don't hold your breath waiting for the wide world of photography to follow your lead. I for one will not contradict the established usage. BTY I'm not deaf. Thanks for your reply, Anthony. I guess I didn't make myself clear enough. I also have no intent of changing established usage. However, my point is that the members of the PDML should certainly have the right to do so (on the PDML) if they chose to. I apologize for the shouting. What is BTY? I apologize for being dense, too... Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MF or MF: was: Anyone shoot MF exclusively?
MF has always meant medium format, and it is not the prerogative of the members of one brand specific mailing list to overturn a long established tradition. Well, Anthony, I really don't care whether MF or mf stands for medium format or manual focus or much fuss (especially since one can usually tell the intended use from the context), so the following remark is separate from that controversy: THE MEMBERS OF THE PDML HAVE ~EVERY~ RIGHT (I.E., IT IS ~ENTIRELY~ WITHIN THEIR PREROGATIVE) TO DECIDE SOMETHING FOR THEMSELVES, ~REGARDLESS~ WHAT SOME LONG ESTABLISHED TRADITION MIGHT BE ELSEWHERE !!! (And the fact that we could probably never all get together and agree to any one thing is not relevant to the truth of the previous paragraph.) Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MF or MF: was: Anyone shoot MF exclusively?
Friday, January 11, 2002, 6:04:25 PM, Chris wrote: I think the best way (and it was used here too some way back) is this: mf = manual focus MF = MEDIUM FORMAT (it's bigger than sf, small format, eh g ?) CB Personally, I prefer MedF and MF, since I tend to write AF instead of CB af. But I'm sure most of us can decode it regardless of the style. CB chris Yes! Manual Focus deserves the capitals! I had been wrong. MF,MF,MF,MF! Love you MF! (even the MMFF and LLLFFF) ;-) Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MF or MF: was: Anyone shoot MF exclusively?
Thursday, January 10, 2002, 9:13:37 PM, Fred wrote: I was just wondering the same thing Fred, is there a different abbreviation, I always get confused (easy for me)... I think the best way (and it was used here too some way back) is this: mf = manual focus MF = MEDIUM FORMAT (it's bigger than sf, small format, eh g ?) and maybe g: LLFF = LAARGE format ;-0 Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MF or MF: was: Anyone shoot MF exclusively?
I think the best way (and it was used here too some way back) is this: mf = manual focus MF = MEDIUM FORMAT (it's bigger than sf, small format, eh g ?) Personally, I prefer MedF and MF, since I tend to write AF instead of af. But I'm sure most of us can decode it regardless of the style. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MF or MF: was: Anyone shoot MF exclusively?
I saw what I believe to be Verichrome Pan 620 listed on the BH web site. Wasn't someone asking about that the other day? Ann, perhaps? http://www03.bhphotovideo.com/default.sph/FrameWork.class?FNC=ProductActivator__Aproductlist_html___220893___KOVP620___REG___CatID=2721___SID=EB8FD97A9E0 Tom Rittenhouse wrote: Why not just say 120? Yes there used to be all kinds of roll film out there but I think the only one in general use any more is 120. You can still find 220 and 70mm but they have essentially the same formats as 120. Now, I always liked 116, anyone tried to buy a roll of that lately? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MF or MF: was: Anyone shoot MF exclusively?
I poked around a little more, and BH has a couple of pages listing 1110, 127, 620, and 828 film. Tom Rittenhouse wrote: Why not just say 120? Yes there used to be all kinds of roll film out there but I think the only one in general use any more is 120. You can still find 220 and 70mm but they have essentially the same formats as 120. Now, I always liked 116, anyone tried to buy a roll of that lately? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MF or MF: was: Anyone shoot MF exclusively?
Did I say GENERALLY AVAILABLE? FWIW, the is/wa a company called Film For Classics that respooled film in all kinds of obsolete formats for a price. They might even have a webpage. Ciao, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 8:17 PM Subject: Re: MF or MF: was: Anyone shoot MF exclusively? I poked around a little more, and BH has a couple of pages listing 1110, 127, 620, and 828 film. Tom Rittenhouse wrote: Why not just say 120? Yes there used to be all kinds of roll film out there but I think the only one in general use any more is 120. You can still find 220 and 70mm but they have essentially the same formats as 120. Now, I always liked 116, anyone tried to buy a roll of that lately? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MF or MF: was: Anyone shoot MF exclusively?
I was just wondering the same thing Fred, is there a different abbreviation, I always get confused (easy for me)... Yeah, I'm easily confused, too, Norm - g. Actually, it's usually not a problem to decode the MF abbreviation - the context (in relation to AF, or in relation to 35mm, etc.) is generally helpful enough. But, every once in a while... Delano did respond, I see, and he was referring to medium format. Mystery solved... Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
