Re: MX seems to have huge problem..........
Sorry, the Meter is built into the body on the LX, (you must be thinking about some other manufacturer's body with interchangeable finders, shame on you) All you get is LED's Maybe my eyesight is better than most or maybe I don't use my cameras in such extreme lighting conditions However although the LED's do look a lot dimmer by comparison, I've never run into a situation where I couldn't see the exposure information in my LX or MX At 01:31 PM 3/4/2002 -0500, you wrote: frank theriault wrote: [] in very bright light, the led's are a bit hard to see I actually prefer the match-needle of the Spotmatics in that regard In lower light situations, however, the MX led's are a huge improvement over the match-needle Another case of right tool for each job and an excuse to have multiple bodies No flippant enabling; it really is that useful if you shoot reasonably often in both extremes I find match-needles really nice, very quick to read, clear in a wide range of environments, but they are Absolutely Frustrating in uneven candlelight (If I fill the frame with a face, that's one thing If I'm shooting the _room_ and the right edge of the viewfinder is dark, that's another) Of course, both my bodies that go up to 6400 on their ASA settings use match needles, so I don't really have the perfect tool for that job, but if I did have a body with LEDs that went to 6400 (or faster), I'd probably wind up using it a lot in the dark despite how much I like the KX and K2 (The LCD on the Super Program is kind of a compromise -- it's even harder to see in the dark than a match needle, but I do have the option of draining the battery to light up the display, and the ASA dial goes to 3200) What about the LX? Are there both match-needle and LED finders available for it? How about the 67II? (I should just go look at Boz' site, but it's not terribly urgent since I'm not shopping for a body right now, and I've already got a lot of browser windows open) The pre-Spotmatic bodies I use either for the sheer pleasure of them[*] or because I need one more body at a particular moment (or because I don't really _need_ one more body but it's just a little more convenient and I'd already brought those along as backups anyhow so I might as well) The other bodies I've got each have their particular strengths: match-needle, LED, aperture-priority, manual control, shutter-priority, program, DOF preview, MLU, controls easy to operate while wearing gloves, TTL flash, faster ASA settings, slightly less conspicuous black paint it's nice to be able to pick the one that's going to be easiest to use in a given situation If I ever get (or build) a proper flash handle and order some flashbulbs, the mere presence of an FP socket will make some cameras the right tools for some situations[**] (Of course, I often use a camera that's not the perfect tool because it's the one I happen to have with me, or because I'm using two or three bodies and only one of them is exactly right The general idea still stands even if real life doesn't _quite_ get there It's still nice to be able to say, Hey, _that_ camera solves this problem) -- Glenn [*] There's a lot that they're good for where their lack of modern features isn't a problem -- such as shooting with an auto-mode flash for example -- but for most situations a more modern body (Spotmatic or anything K-mount with a manual mode (now that I've got a screw-to-K adaptor)) works just as well, since I can just ignore the features I don't need at the moment Nonetheless, the sheer aesthetic pleasure, and a little ergonomic benefit, from the way they fit my hands and how nice they feel to operate make them quite a bit more than oh I guess I can get away with using this old thing tools [**] Oooh, I want high-speed flash sync for daylight fill, really I do And if looking cool and old-timey happens as a side effect, well that's not a problem - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: MX seems to have huge problem..........
Denny B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just purchased a Pentax MX all seems well except for the internal lightmeter. I was using it yesterday, took my young daughter to the local outdoor ice rink, there was lots of snow around and it was a bright sunny day. It was almost impossible to see the lighted LED's to take a reading, I had never encountered anybody mentioning this problem before, it is almost useless trying to read the meter under the conditions explained. Luckily I had my Pentax Spotmeter V with, which did the light reading for me as usual flawlessly. This is one of the situations where an eyecup may help you. As a bonus, it will inprove your view on the viewfinder image. -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MX seems to have huge problem..........
frank theriault wrote: [] in very bright light, the led's are a bit hard to see I actually prefer the match-needle of the Spotmatics in that regard In lower light situations, however, the MX led's are a huge improvement over the match-needle Another case of right tool for each job and an excuse to have multiple bodies No flippant enabling; it really is that useful if you shoot reasonably often in both extremes I find match-needles really nice, very quick to read, clear in a wide range of environments, but they are Absolutely Frustrating in uneven candlelight (If I fill the frame with a face, that's one thing If I'm shooting the _room_ and the right edge of the viewfinder is dark, that's another) Of course, both my bodies that go up to 6400 on their ASA settings use match needles, so I don't really have the perfect tool for that job, but if I did have a body with LEDs that went to 6400 (or faster), I'd probably wind up using it a lot in the dark despite how much I like the KX and K2 (The LCD on the Super Program is kind of a compromise -- it's even harder to see in the dark than a match needle, but I do have the option of draining the battery to light up the display, and the ASA dial goes to 3200) What about the LX? Are there both match-needle and LED finders available for it? How about the 67II? (I should just go look at Boz' site, but it's not terribly urgent since I'm not shopping for a body right now, and I've already got a lot of browser windows open) The pre-Spotmatic bodies I use either for the sheer pleasure of them[*] or because I need one more body at a particular moment (or because I don't really _need_ one more body but it's just a little more convenient and I'd already brought those along as backups anyhow so I might as well) The other bodies I've got each have their particular strengths: match-needle, LED, aperture-priority, manual control, shutter-priority, program, DOF preview, MLU, controls easy to operate while wearing gloves, TTL flash, faster ASA settings, slightly less conspicuous black paint it's nice to be able to pick the one that's going to be easiest to use in a given situation If I ever get (or build) a proper flash handle and order some flashbulbs, the mere presence of an FP socket will make some cameras the right tools for some situations[**] (Of course, I often use a camera that's not the perfect tool because it's the one I happen to have with me, or because I'm using two or three bodies and only one of them is exactly right The general idea still stands even if real life doesn't _quite_ get there It's still nice to be able to say, Hey, _that_ camera solves this problem) -- Glenn [*] There's a lot that they're good for where their lack of modern features isn't a problem -- such as shooting with an auto-mode flash for example -- but for most situations a more modern body (Spotmatic or anything K-mount with a manual mode (now that I've got a screw-to-K adaptor)) works just as well, since I can just ignore the features I don't need at the moment Nonetheless, the sheer aesthetic pleasure, and a little ergonomic benefit, from the way they fit my hands and how nice they feel to operate make them quite a bit more than oh I guess I can get away with using this old thing tools [**] Oooh, I want high-speed flash sync for daylight fill, really I do And if looking cool and old-timey happens as a side effect, well that's not a problem - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
MX seems to have huge problem..........
I have just purchased a Pentax MX all seems well except for the internal lightmeter I was using it yesterday, took my young daughter to the local outdoor ice rink, there was lots of snow around and it was a bright sunny day It was almost impossible to see the lighted LED's to take a reading, I had never encountered anybody mentioning this problem before, it is almost useless trying to read the meter under the conditions explained Luckily I had my Pentax Spotmeter V with, which did the light reading for me as usual flawlessly Any comments on using the MX lightmeter under bright conditions! thanks in advance Denny B - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
Re: MX seems to have huge problem..........
I've heard that it's sometimes difficult to see the LEDs in the MX under bright conditions, so what you're experiencing is probably normal. I've not noticed it with either of my MX, though, but I don't use the light meter too often, especially in bright light. Denny B wrote: I have just purchased a Pentax MX all seems well except for the internal lightmeter. I was using it yesterday, took my young daughter to the local outdoor ice rink, there was lots of snow around and it was a bright sunny day. It was almost impossible to see the lighted LED's to take a reading, I had never encountered anybody mentioning this problem before, it is almost useless trying to read the meter under the conditions explained. Luckily I had my Pentax Spotmeter V with, which did the light reading for me as usual flawlessly. Any comments on using the MX lightmeter under bright conditions! -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MX seems to have huge problem..........
I don't know if I find it to be a huge problem, but I have noticed that in very bright light, the led's are a bit hard to see I actually prefer the match-needle of the Spotmatics in that regard In lower light situations, however, the MX led's are a huge improvement over the match-needle I think what you've experienced is normal - whatever that is regards, frank Denny B wrote: I have just purchased a Pentax MX all seems well except for the internal lightmeter I was using it yesterday, took my young daughter to the local outdoor ice rink, there was lots of snow around and it was a bright sunny day It was almost impossible to see the lighted LED's to take a reading, I had never encountered anybody mentioning this problem before, it is almost useless trying to read the meter under the conditions explained Luckily I had my Pentax Spotmeter V with, which did the light reading for me as usual flawlessly Any comments on using the MX lightmeter under bright conditions! thanks in advance Denny B - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds The pessimist fears it is true -J Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe, go to http://wwwpdmlnet and follow the directions Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pugkomkonorg
