Re: MZ-D Shock
P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well lets see, they stole the picture of another manufactures prototype to represent the new product, and claimed it would be compatible with Leica lenses. Either the translation is completely Fd up or Aigo should be using their press releases to fertilize rice fields. I'm betting on the latter. I've checked the Aigo web site and there's no such press release. I doubt Aigo are to blame for this. My guess is their name is being misused just as the photo is; they have no more to do with the hoax than Pentax does. -- Sandy Harris, Nanjing, China -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Non-technical idiots conflating 'Large sensor interchangable lens digital' with 'DSLR'. This sounds like a description of the rumoured Zeiss Ikon Digital RF. Meanwhile, over on the Olympus OM list (which has as many off-topic posts as this one :-), I noticed this: There are strong rumors that FujiFilm has sold the rights to their DSLR and medium format business. They are retaining the sensor business, digicams and what is left of the film business. So what's the next rumour? Aigo building things for Zeiis? Aigo buying a piece of Fuji? They are a major player in the Chinese market; they might actually have the technology or money to do one of those. -- Sandy Harris, Nanjing, China -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, 14 May 2008 12:07:56 -0500, Bob Sullivan wrote: Samsung/Microsoft are working the bugs out of chips and software. So where would the ALT,CTL,Delete buttons go? James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 4:06 AM, Sandy Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Non-technical idiots conflating 'Large sensor interchangable lens digital' with 'DSLR'. This sounds like a description of the rumoured Zeiss Ikon Digital RF. Meanwhile, over on the Olympus OM list (which has as many off-topic posts as this one :-), I noticed this: There are strong rumors that FujiFilm has sold the rights to their DSLR and medium format business. They are retaining the sensor business, digicams and what is left of the film business. So what's the next rumour? Aigo building things for Zeiis? Aigo buying a piece of Fuji? They are a major player in the Chinese market; they might actually have the technology or money to do one of those. -- Sandy Harris, Nanjing, China Doesn't sound like a believable rumour, especially since Fuji's been showing off a new _film_ MF camera lately. I could see them selling off their DSLR and PS business though, possibly keeping the sensors as well, but not the MF business where they're a big player (they build Hassy's H-series cameras and lenses and also sell them as Fuji's in Japan). -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
MZ-D Shock
Have a look at the third product down on this Chinese Engadget page and tell me I'm dreaming... http://chinese.engadget.com/category/digitalcameras/page/2/ Deja vu or what? for ref: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Wow, that sure looks like a MZ-D! Regards, Bob S. On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 5:46 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have a look at the third product down on this Chinese Engadget page and tell me I'm dreaming... http://chinese.engadget.com/category/digitalcameras/page/2/ Deja vu or what? for ref: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have a look at the third product down on this Chinese Engadget page and tell me I'm dreaming... http://chinese.engadget.com/category/digitalcameras/page/2/ Deja vu or what? for ref: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html Aigo, the brand in the photo, are fairly big in China. They make assorted electronic consumer goods -- MP3 players, USB memory sticks. some digital cameras -- and have a decent reputation. I've never heard of them doing anything in this class, though, and their web site does not have the product: http://en.aigo.com -- Sandy Harris, Nanjing, China -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It seems to be the picture of the Pentax K1, (which may or may not have been a Photoshop alteration of the MZ-D), posted on another Camera speculation site modified still further. I translated the text with google for what it's worth here it is. Map spread on the Internet is the Patriot Aigo first digital single-lens reflex camera DSLR work style plans (obviously non-official, readers have responded to images of), we all know that the Patriot has been creating digital cameras to inexpensive as a criterion, If they successfully launched DSLR, it will become China's first DSLR camera. According to hearsay: The CCD camera will not be lower than the same period of the DSLR, and the fuselage will be used as reasons for the cost of plastic; fuselage interface, known as Patriot will be used jointly developed with Carl Zeiss AG to the I will be compatible with the Leica M-mouth, while Carl Zeiss will also develop a series of new DSLR single-lens reflex camera. Of course now all outstanding conclusion, as the latest news is that the current Patriot insufficient funds, creating single-lens reflex is not a simple matter, we mention it, and so on. The other hand, our friend the other side of the national character can be really strong, regardless of all on the strength of large, network DSLR scored the hills. Will be 10, because the national character of the momentum, China's consumers to buy the DSLR loved it That certainly clarifies things. Cotty wrote: Have a look at the third product down on this Chinese Engadget page and tell me I'm dreaming... http://chinese.engadget.com/category/digitalcameras/page/2/ Deja vu or what? for ref: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bad Photoshopping of a K-1D (aka MZ-D). -Adam On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have a look at the third product down on this Chinese Engadget page and tell me I'm dreaming... http://chinese.engadget.com/category/digitalcameras/page/2/ Deja vu or what? for ref: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Cotty wrote: Have a look at the third product down on this Chinese Engadget page and tell me I'm dreaming... http://chinese.engadget.com/category/digitalcameras/page/2/ Deja vu or what? No deja vu. Just Wishful Thinking + Photoshop + Too Much Free Time. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty wrote: Have a look at the third product down on this Chinese Engadget page and tell me I'm dreaming... http://chinese.engadget.com/category/digitalcameras/page/2/ Deja vu or what? No deja vu. Just Wishful Thinking + Photoshop + Too Much Free Time. Wouldn't hurt to marinade that hat, anyway. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have a look at the third product down on this Chinese Engadget page and tell me I'm dreaming... http://chinese.engadget.com/category/digitalcameras/page/2/ Deja vu or what? Nope, its a camera Cotty. Back to sleep now. Dave for ref: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Given the short register distance of a Leica M mount I simply can't see how a dslr could be possible.. Where would the mirror box fit ? On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 2:31 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to be the picture of the Pentax K1, (which may or may not have been a Photoshop alteration of the MZ-D), posted on another Camera speculation site modified still further. I translated the text with google for what it's worth here it is. Map spread on the Internet is the Patriot Aigo first digital single-lens reflex camera DSLR work style plans (obviously non-official, readers have responded to images of), we all know that the Patriot has been creating digital cameras to inexpensive as a criterion, If they successfully launched DSLR, it will become China's first DSLR camera. According to hearsay: The CCD camera will not be lower than the same period of the DSLR, and the fuselage will be used as reasons for the cost of plastic; fuselage interface, known as Patriot will be used jointly developed with Carl Zeiss AG to the I will be compatible with the Leica M-mouth, while Carl Zeiss will also develop a series of new DSLR single-lens reflex camera. Of course now all outstanding conclusion, as the latest news is that the current Patriot insufficient funds, creating single-lens reflex is not a simple matter, we mention it, and so on. The other hand, our friend the other side of the national character can be really strong, regardless of all on the strength of large, network DSLR scored the hills. Will be 10, because the national character of the momentum, China's consumers to buy the DSLR loved it That certainly clarifies things. Cotty wrote: Have a look at the third product down on this Chinese Engadget page and tell me I'm dreaming... http://chinese.engadget.com/category/digitalcameras/page/2/ Deja vu or what? for ref: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well lets see, they stole the picture of another manufactures prototype to represent the new product, and claimed it would be compatible with Leica lenses. Either the translation is completely Fd up or Aigo should be using their press releases to fertilize rice fields. I'm betting on the latter. Patrick Genovese wrote: Given the short register distance of a Leica M mount I simply can't see how a dslr could be possible.. Where would the mirror box fit ? On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 2:31 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to be the picture of the Pentax K1, (which may or may not have been a Photoshop alteration of the MZ-D), posted on another Camera speculation site modified still further. I translated the text with google for what it's worth here it is. Map spread on the Internet is the Patriot Aigo first digital single-lens reflex camera DSLR work style plans (obviously non-official, readers have responded to images of), we all know that the Patriot has been creating digital cameras to inexpensive as a criterion, If they successfully launched DSLR, it will become China's first DSLR camera. According to hearsay: The CCD camera will not be lower than the same period of the DSLR, and the fuselage will be used as reasons for the cost of plastic; fuselage interface, known as Patriot will be used jointly developed with Carl Zeiss AG to the I will be compatible with the Leica M-mouth, while Carl Zeiss will also develop a series of new DSLR single-lens reflex camera. Of course now all outstanding conclusion, as the latest news is that the current Patriot insufficient funds, creating single-lens reflex is not a simple matter, we mention it, and so on. The other hand, our friend the other side of the national character can be really strong, regardless of all on the strength of large, network DSLR scored the hills. Will be 10, because the national character of the momentum, China's consumers to buy the DSLR loved it That certainly clarifies things. Cotty wrote: Have a look at the third product down on this Chinese Engadget page and tell me I'm dreaming... http://chinese.engadget.com/category/digitalcameras/page/2/ Deja vu or what? for ref: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: MZ-D Shock
Do you want soy sauce with your hat? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: 14 May 2008 11:47 To: pentax list Subject: MZ-D Shock Have a look at the third product down on this Chinese Engadget page and tell me I'm dreaming... http://chinese.engadget.com/category/digitalcameras/page/2/ Deja vu or what? for ref: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Shouldn't we send this over to the Pentax 'THE SKY IS FALLING' list with a short note. Pentax/Hoya/Samsung are making an end run into the full frame DSLR business. This is an early production sample of the K1. The copy about Leica lenses is just a smoke screen. Look at that lens mount. It's a Pentax K! This camera will be full frame and incorporate GPS (ala the Microsoft partnership). Pentax/Hoya are busy on new lens designs. Samsung/Microsoft are working the bugs out of chips and software. It will all be available for next Christmas. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:20 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well lets see, they stole the picture of another manufactures prototype to represent the new product, and claimed it would be compatible with Leica lenses. Either the translation is completely Fd up or Aigo should be using their press releases to fertilize rice fields. I'm betting on the latter. Patrick Genovese wrote: Given the short register distance of a Leica M mount I simply can't see how a dslr could be possible.. Where would the mirror box fit ? On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 2:31 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to be the picture of the Pentax K1, (which may or may not have been a Photoshop alteration of the MZ-D), posted on another Camera speculation site modified still further. I translated the text with google for what it's worth here it is. Map spread on the Internet is the Patriot Aigo first digital single-lens reflex camera DSLR work style plans (obviously non-official, readers have responded to images of), we all know that the Patriot has been creating digital cameras to inexpensive as a criterion, If they successfully launched DSLR, it will become China's first DSLR camera. According to hearsay: The CCD camera will not be lower than the same period of the DSLR, and the fuselage will be used as reasons for the cost of plastic; fuselage interface, known as Patriot will be used jointly developed with Carl Zeiss AG to the I will be compatible with the Leica M-mouth, while Carl Zeiss will also develop a series of new DSLR single-lens reflex camera. Of course now all outstanding conclusion, as the latest news is that the current Patriot insufficient funds, creating single-lens reflex is not a simple matter, we mention it, and so on. The other hand, our friend the other side of the national character can be really strong, regardless of all on the strength of large, network DSLR scored the hills. Will be 10, because the national character of the momentum, China's consumers to buy the DSLR loved it That certainly clarifies things. Cotty wrote: Have a look at the third product down on this Chinese Engadget page and tell me I'm dreaming... http://chinese.engadget.com/category/digitalcameras/page/2/ Deja vu or what? for ref: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Non-technical idiots conflating 'Large sensor interchangable lens digital' with 'DSLR'. This sounds like a description of the rumoured Zeiss Ikon Digital RF. -Adam On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given the short register distance of a Leica M mount I simply can't see how a dslr could be possible.. Where would the mirror box fit ? On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 2:31 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to be the picture of the Pentax K1, (which may or may not have been a Photoshop alteration of the MZ-D), posted on another Camera speculation site modified still further. I translated the text with google for what it's worth here it is. Map spread on the Internet is the Patriot Aigo first digital single-lens reflex camera DSLR work style plans (obviously non-official, readers have responded to images of), we all know that the Patriot has been creating digital cameras to inexpensive as a criterion, If they successfully launched DSLR, it will become China's first DSLR camera. According to hearsay: The CCD camera will not be lower than the same period of the DSLR, and the fuselage will be used as reasons for the cost of plastic; fuselage interface, known as Patriot will be used jointly developed with Carl Zeiss AG to the I will be compatible with the Leica M-mouth, while Carl Zeiss will also develop a series of new DSLR single-lens reflex camera. Of course now all outstanding conclusion, as the latest news is that the current Patriot insufficient funds, creating single-lens reflex is not a simple matter, we mention it, and so on. The other hand, our friend the other side of the national character can be really strong, regardless of all on the strength of large, network DSLR scored the hills. Will be 10, because the national character of the momentum, China's consumers to buy the DSLR loved it That certainly clarifies things. Cotty wrote: Have a look at the third product down on this Chinese Engadget page and tell me I'm dreaming... http://chinese.engadget.com/category/digitalcameras/page/2/ Deja vu or what? for ref: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Op Wed, 14 May 2008 18:20:42 +0200 schreef P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I do like the transformer camera further down the page, though :o) Well lets see, they stole the picture of another manufactures prototype to represent the new product, and claimed it would be compatible with Leica lenses. Either the translation is completely Fd up or Aigo should be using their press releases to fertilize rice fields. I'm betting on the latter. Patrick Genovese wrote: Given the short register distance of a Leica M mount I simply can't see how a dslr could be possible.. Where would the mirror box fit ? On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 2:31 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to be the picture of the Pentax K1, (which may or may not have been a Photoshop alteration of the MZ-D), posted on another Camera speculation site modified still further. I translated the text with google for what it's worth here it is. Map spread on the Internet is the Patriot Aigo first digital single-lens reflex camera DSLR work style plans (obviously non-official, readers have responded to images of), we all know that the Patriot has been creating digital cameras to inexpensive as a criterion, If they successfully launched DSLR, it will become China's first DSLR camera. According to hearsay: The CCD camera will not be lower than the same period of the DSLR, and the fuselage will be used as reasons for the cost of plastic; fuselage interface, known as Patriot will be used jointly developed with Carl Zeiss AG to the I will be compatible with the Leica M-mouth, while Carl Zeiss will also develop a series of new DSLR single-lens reflex camera. Of course now all outstanding conclusion, as the latest news is that the current Patriot insufficient funds, creating single-lens reflex is not a simple matter, we mention it, and so on. The other hand, our friend the other side of the national character can be really strong, regardless of all on the strength of large, network DSLR scored the hills. Will be 10, because the national character of the momentum, China's consumers to buy the DSLR loved it That certainly clarifies things. Cotty wrote: Have a look at the third product down on this Chinese Engadget page and tell me I'm dreaming... http://chinese.engadget.com/category/digitalcameras/page/2/ Deja vu or what? for ref: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Ciao, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Cotty wrote: Have a look at the third product down on this Chinese Engadget page and tell me I'm dreaming... http://chinese.engadget.com/category/digitalcameras/page/2/ Deja vu or what? for ref: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html Oh yes! Identrical! ;-) keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.