Re: Mailing list change?

2012-08-21 Thread George Sinos
Tim -  I noticed the same thing and had been chalking it up to gmail.
For a while, I would see re: on replies in the message list. When I
opened the message gmail would display the full thread with the
original subject line at the top of the list.

Now I don't even see the re: in the message list.

Don't know where it's coming from, I had just figured it was gmail.

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On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote:
 I suspect that the proliferation of mailing apps on a proliferation of
 operating systems across a proliferation of platforms is the reason
 for whatever non-standard behaviour you may notice on any particular
 day.  The old reason was that digest subscribers were cutting and
 pasting from a digest into a new mail (when they don't is when you see
 a mail titled as a digest number).

 regards, Anthony



 On 21 August 2012 12:27, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:
 Lots and lots of messages are showing up that are continuations of
 previous threads, but without a “Re:” in the subject line.  Is this a
 change in my gmail, or in the list software, or what?  It’s sort of
 annoying, when I get behind on PDML, I only visit each thread once,
 which is pretty easy if you skip threads labeled “Re:”

 Or maybe I’m just imagining this? -T


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Re: Mailing list change?

2012-08-21 Thread John Sessoms
I think I may be the only current *actively posting* digest subscriber. 
I've never seen anyone else get bitched out for screwing up the threading.


I try to pay attention to the subject line when I post a reply  
manually put the RE: in if it's not already there.



From: Anthony Farr


I suspect that the proliferation of mailing apps on a proliferation of
operating systems across a proliferation of platforms is the reason
for whatever non-standard behaviour you may notice on any particular
day.  The old reason was that digest subscribers were cutting and
pasting from a digest into a new mail (when they don't is when you see
a mail titled as a digest number).

regards, Anthony



On 21 August 2012 12:27, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:

Lots and lots of messages are showing up that are continuations of
previous threads, but without a ?Re:? in the subject line.  Is this a
change in my gmail, or in the list software, or what?  It?s sort of
annoying, when I get behind on PDML, I only visit each thread once,
which is pretty easy if you skip threads labeled ?Re:?

Or maybe I?m just imagining this? -T



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Re: Mailing list change?

2012-08-21 Thread steve harley

on 2012-08-21 9:01 John Sessoms wrote

I think I may be the only current *actively posting* digest subscriber. I've
never seen anyone else get bitched out for screwing up the threading.


i detected those who reply to digests by searching for In-reply-to: headers 
that include mailman; this works because the digests are sent with a 
mailman message-id (of course you need a tool that can do this search — good 
luck doing that with Gmail)


searching from March through the present there is one primary culprit, plus a 
few occasionals; none of them are you, John — you are doing the right thing, 
insofar as you are a digest user, by composing new messages; you regularly get 
the subject lines right too, so i can induce Thunderbird to include your 
messages in the thread, though they cannot be placed in the correct 
hierarchical position


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Mailing list change?

2012-08-20 Thread Tim Bray
Lots and lots of messages are showing up that are continuations of
previous threads, but without a “Re:” in the subject line.  Is this a
change in my gmail, or in the list software, or what?  It’s sort of
annoying, when I get behind on PDML, I only visit each thread once,
which is pretty easy if you skip threads labeled “Re:”

Or maybe I’m just imagining this? -T

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Re: Mailing list change?

2012-08-20 Thread Anthony Farr
I suspect that the proliferation of mailing apps on a proliferation of
operating systems across a proliferation of platforms is the reason
for whatever non-standard behaviour you may notice on any particular
day.  The old reason was that digest subscribers were cutting and
pasting from a digest into a new mail (when they don't is when you see
a mail titled as a digest number).

regards, Anthony



On 21 August 2012 12:27, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:
 Lots and lots of messages are showing up that are continuations of
 previous threads, but without a “Re:” in the subject line.  Is this a
 change in my gmail, or in the list software, or what?  It’s sort of
 annoying, when I get behind on PDML, I only visit each thread once,
 which is pretty easy if you skip threads labeled “Re:”

 Or maybe I’m just imagining this? -T


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Re: Mailing list change?

2012-08-20 Thread steve harley

on 2012-08-20 20:27 Tim Bray wrote

Lots and lots of messages are showing up that are continuations of
previous threads, but without a “Re:” in the subject line.  Is this a
change in my gmail, or in the list software, or what?  It’s sort of
annoying, when I get behind on PDML, I only visit each thread once,
which is pretty easy if you skip threads labeled “Re:”

Or maybe I’m just imagining this? -T


i see a few (maybe 5-10 in an average week), so if you are seeing lots, i'd 
blame the Gmangler


the ones i see are a subset of the various oddities which come from people 
using certain Android email clients (no In-reply-to: headers), people replying 
to digests (the In-reply-to: links to an email i don't have) and people 
replying to any old thread and changing the subject; but on the whole PDML is 
pretty well-behaved relative to its volume; thank heavens for hierarchical 
threading, i don't know how i could handle a list like this without it



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