Re: More Damned Digi Problems

2005-09-07 Thread John Francis

It's in the Pentax private data in the MakerNote tag.

On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 02:08:59AM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> Hi John  care to explain how that's done?
> 
> Shel 
> 
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: John Francis 
> 
> > It's not that hard - send me a JPEG (lowest quality, lo-res should work)
> > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll tell you how many shutter cycles are shown.
> >
> >
> >  R.C.Booth wrote:
> 
> > > Perhaps a Pentax tech could determine the number of shutter  
> > > cycle it had but there is no obvious way the user can do so.  
> 



Re: More Damned Digi Problems

2005-09-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Sep 6, 2005, at 9:03 PM, R.C.Booth wrote:

For now I'm making du with my screw and K/KA mount lenses.  But,  
the time will come (probably sooner than later) when I'll pop for  
an auto focus zoom of some sort.  Any recommendations??


If you like to shoot wide rather than long, the FA20-35/4 AL is  
fantastic. If you prefer a longer view, either of the  
FA28-105/3.2-4.5 AL IF or FA24-90/3.5-4.5 AL would be my choice.


The DA16-45/4 is too heavy and large for my taste, performs well  
however. The DA50-200/4-5.6 seems a bit more than I usually need at  
the long end, but if you like that range should be an excellent choice.


Godfrey



Re: More Damned Digi Problems

2005-09-07 Thread brooksdj
Hi Shel.

I'll cast a vote at you for the DA 16-45.So far has been producing good 
results,even after
dropping 
both istD and lens on the ground when it fell out of my hip bag.(note to 
self.Bag is not
closed until you 
hear the click.LOL)
I am very close to getting the DA 50-200 for myself even if its not that good 
for my
sisiters use. Paul 
talks highly of it and i dont know if i NEED(but want) another 70-200 f2.8 just 
yet.:-)

Dave
 

> Not having used a zoom on the DS to 
any 
extent, I can't, but a lot of
> people on the list recommend the 16~45 and the 20~35.  There may be others,
> but I pay attention when people talk of those lenses since the focal range
> interests me more than long zooms and teles.  The FA 20~35 has caught my
> attention because of its small size, light weight, and reported good
> optical qualities.
> 
> Shel 
> 





Re: More Damned Digi Problems

2005-09-07 Thread Paul Stenquist
The DA 16-45 and DA 50-200 make a nice companion set of zooms. I 
originally bought them just for frivolous shooting but found them so 
good that I now use them for serious work as well. At least on those 
occasions when I don't want to carry a full set of primes. I think the 
upcoming DA 12-24 will be a great addition to this set.

On Sep 7, 2005, at 12:03 AM, R.C.Booth wrote:

Yes it was - in the box with all of the extra pieces, even a couple of 
lithium batteries.  Not a mark on it.  Up to KEH's usual rating.


Perhaps a Pentax tech could determine the number of shutter cycle it 
had but there is no obvious way the user can do so.  I don't care 
though.  It can't have had many cycles and remained as clean as it is.


I'm still not gloating - we've all had an experience like yours at one 
time or another!


For now I'm making du with my screw and K/KA mount lenses.  But, the 
time will come (probably sooner than later) when I'll pop for an auto 
focus zoom of some sort.  Any recommendations??


RCB
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: More Damned Digi Problems



Go ahead an gloat a little ... ;-))

Was the LN- D from KEH trouble free and in really super condition, as 
one
would expect from KEH?  Was there any way of knowing how many 
exposures

were made with the camera?

Shel



[Original Message]
From: R.C.Booth
Subject: Re: More Damned Digi Problems

I'm certainly not going to gloat.  Shel's misfortunes have got to be 
very
disappointing to say the least.  I am one of the ones who bought a 
"ln-"

D
from KEH and was off and running with an old KA lens and 512MB 
compact

flash
card from Walmart almost as fast as I could everything together.  
Other

than
the RAW files,  I'm very impressed with the D and am having a lot of 
fun

with it..





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Re: More Damned Digi Problems

2005-09-07 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Not having used a zoom on the DS to any extent, I can't, but a lot of
people on the list recommend the 16~45 and the 20~35.  There may be others,
but I pay attention when people talk of those lenses since the focal range
interests me more than long zooms and teles.  The FA 20~35 has caught my
attention because of its small size, light weight, and reported good
optical qualities.

Shel 

> [Original Message]
> From: R.C.Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> For now I'm making du with my screw and K/KA mount lenses.  But, the time 
> will come (probably sooner than later) when I'll pop for an auto focus
zoom 
> of some sort.  Any recommendations??




Re: More Damned Digi Problems

2005-09-07 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi John  care to explain how that's done?

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: John Francis 

> It's not that hard - send me a JPEG (lowest quality, lo-res should work)
> to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll tell you how many shutter cycles are shown.
>
>
>  R.C.Booth wrote:

> > Perhaps a Pentax tech could determine the number of shutter  
> > cycle it had but there is no obvious way the user can do so.  




Re: More Damned Digi Problems

2005-09-06 Thread John Coyle
I'm intrigued by your comment about the *ist-D's RAW files - I have found I 
get by far the best results by shooting RAW and then post-processing to get 
exactly what I want.  Can you explain?


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
- Original Message - 
From: "R.C.Booth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: More Damned Digi Problems


I'm certainly not going to gloat.  Shel's misfortunes have got to be very 
disappointing to say the least.  I am one of the ones who bought a "ln-" D 
from KEH and was off and running with an old KA lens and 512MB compact 
flash card from Walmart almost as fast as I could everything together. 
Other than the RAW files,  I'm very impressed with the D and am having a 
lot of fun with it..


RCB




Re: More Damned Digi Problems

2005-09-06 Thread John Francis

It's not that hard - send me a JPEG (lowest quality, lo-res should work)
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll tell you how many shutter cycles are shown.


On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 12:03:20AM -0400, R.C.Booth wrote:
> Yes it was - in the box with all of the extra pieces, even a couple of 
> lithium batteries.  Not a mark on it.  Up to KEH's usual rating.
> 
> Perhaps a Pentax tech could determine the number of shutter cycle it had 
> but there is no obvious way the user can do so.  I don't care though.  It 
> can't have had many cycles and remained as clean as it is.
> 
> I'm still not gloating - we've all had an experience like yours at one time 
> or another!
> 
> For now I'm making du with my screw and K/KA mount lenses.  But, the time 
> will come (probably sooner than later) when I'll pop for an auto focus zoom 
> of some sort.  Any recommendations??
> 
> RCB
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 9:14 PM
> Subject: Re: More Damned Digi Problems
> 
> 
> >Go ahead an gloat a little ... ;-))
> >
> >Was the LN- D from KEH trouble free and in really super condition, as one
> >would expect from KEH?  Was there any way of knowing how many exposures
> >were made with the camera?
> >
> >Shel
> >
> >
> >>[Original Message]
> >>From: R.C.Booth
> >>Subject: Re: More Damned Digi Problems
> >>
> >>I'm certainly not going to gloat.  Shel's misfortunes have got to be very
> >>disappointing to say the least.  I am one of the ones who bought a "ln-"
> >D
> >>from KEH and was off and running with an old KA lens and 512MB compact
> >flash
> >>card from Walmart almost as fast as I could everything together.  Other
> >than
> >>the RAW files,  I'm very impressed with the D and am having a lot of fun
> >>with it..
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: More Damned Digi Problems

2005-09-06 Thread R.C.Booth
You haven't missed a post at all.  And to be fair, I haven't spent much time 
with the raw processing to make the most of this feature.  I've been 
shooting tif's almost exclusively as I think they are much better than the 
highest resolution jpg's.  I keep intending to work with the raw files some 
more but haven't as yet.


But the ability to shoot raw or tif file formats as well as jpg's was one 
feature that drew me to the D.


RCB
- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: More Damned Digi Problems


What don't you like about the RAW files? (I may have missed a post on 
this.) I shoot nothing but RAW and am quite pleased with the performance 
of the D.

Paul
On Sep 6, 2005, at 8:49 PM, R.C.Booth wrote:

I'm certainly not going to gloat.  Shel's misfortunes have got to be very 
disappointing to say the least.  I am one of the ones who bought a "ln-" 
D from KEH and was off and running with an old KA lens and 512MB compact 
flash card from Walmart almost as fast as I could everything together. 
Other than the RAW files,  I'm very impressed with the D and am having a 
lot of fun with it..


RCB
- Original Message - From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: More Damned Digi Problems



I'm sorry to hear of all the problems your having Shel. Your baptism
in DSLR ownership has surely started out  in a shitty way.

This is why I prefer shopping in a reatil store. Sometimes the extra
cost is worth it. :-) Then again sometimes it's not 

Dave

On 9/7/05, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well, OK, not digi per se, but problems dealing with on line digi 
stores.


The moment I ordered the DS, I ordered an SD card from
http://www.flash-memory-store.com/

At Godfrey's suggestion I ordered a 60X ATP card on August 29 @ about
7:00am.  The web site (http://www.flash-memory-store.com/) guarantees
shipping the same day if an order is placed before 6:00pm.

The card wasn't shipped until Sept 1, which meant that in order for me 
to
use the DS I had to drive to another town to buy an SD card.  Flash 
Memory
Store did not perform as promised.  Today I received the memory card. 
It

was not the 60X ATP card, but rather, a slower (much slower by my
estimation) plain vanilla no-name card.

I called the store to discuss the matter and ended up with recorded 
message
about how important my business is to them, continued by the comment 
that

no one can take my call now.  

Anyway, I'm not writing this to evoke sympathy, rather, to alert you to 
the

miserable service this store provides.

I could have purchased a card for a few dollars more from a store that 
was

"slower" to ship, and gotten faster and better service.

Shel







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Re: More Damned Digi Problems

2005-09-06 Thread R.C.Booth
Yes it was - in the box with all of the extra pieces, even a couple of 
lithium batteries.  Not a mark on it.  Up to KEH's usual rating.


Perhaps a Pentax tech could determine the number of shutter cycle it had but 
there is no obvious way the user can do so.  I don't care though.  It can't 
have had many cycles and remained as clean as it is.


I'm still not gloating - we've all had an experience like yours at one time 
or another!


For now I'm making du with my screw and K/KA mount lenses.  But, the time 
will come (probably sooner than later) when I'll pop for an auto focus zoom 
of some sort.  Any recommendations??


RCB
- Original Message - 
From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: More Damned Digi Problems



Go ahead an gloat a little ... ;-))

Was the LN- D from KEH trouble free and in really super condition, as one
would expect from KEH?  Was there any way of knowing how many exposures
were made with the camera?

Shel



[Original Message]
From: R.C.Booth
Subject: Re: More Damned Digi Problems

I'm certainly not going to gloat.  Shel's misfortunes have got to be very
disappointing to say the least.  I am one of the ones who bought a "ln-"

D

from KEH and was off and running with an old KA lens and 512MB compact

flash

card from Walmart almost as fast as I could everything together.  Other

than

the RAW files,  I'm very impressed with the D and am having a lot of fun
with it..





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Re: More Damned Digi Problems

2005-09-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
What don't you like about the RAW files? (I may have missed a post on 
this.) I shoot nothing but RAW and am quite pleased with the 
performance of the D.

Paul
On Sep 6, 2005, at 8:49 PM, R.C.Booth wrote:

I'm certainly not going to gloat.  Shel's misfortunes have got to be 
very disappointing to say the least.  I am one of the ones who bought 
a "ln-" D from KEH and was off and running with an old KA lens and 
512MB compact flash card from Walmart almost as fast as I could 
everything together.  Other than the RAW files,  I'm very impressed 
with the D and am having a lot of fun with it..


RCB
- Original Message - From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: More Damned Digi Problems



I'm sorry to hear of all the problems your having Shel. Your baptism
in DSLR ownership has surely started out  in a shitty way.

This is why I prefer shopping in a reatil store. Sometimes the extra
cost is worth it. :-) Then again sometimes it's not 

Dave

On 9/7/05, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well, OK, not digi per se, but problems dealing with on line digi 
stores.


The moment I ordered the DS, I ordered an SD card from
http://www.flash-memory-store.com/

At Godfrey's suggestion I ordered a 60X ATP card on August 29 @ about
7:00am.  The web site (http://www.flash-memory-store.com/) guarantees
shipping the same day if an order is placed before 6:00pm.

The card wasn't shipped until Sept 1, which meant that in order for 
me to
use the DS I had to drive to another town to buy an SD card.  Flash 
Memory
Store did not perform as promised.  Today I received the memory 
card.  It

was not the 60X ATP card, but rather, a slower (much slower by my
estimation) plain vanilla no-name card.

I called the store to discuss the matter and ended up with recorded 
message
about how important my business is to them, continued by the comment 
that

no one can take my call now.  

Anyway, I'm not writing this to evoke sympathy, rather, to alert you 
to the

miserable service this store provides.

I could have purchased a card for a few dollars more from a store 
that was

"slower" to ship, and gotten faster and better service.

Shel







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Re: More Damned Digi Problems

2005-09-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Go ahead an gloat a little ... ;-))

Was the LN- D from KEH trouble free and in really super condition, as one
would expect from KEH?  Was there any way of knowing how many exposures
were made with the camera?

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: R.C.Booth 
> Subject: Re: More Damned Digi Problems
>
> I'm certainly not going to gloat.  Shel's misfortunes have got to be very 
> disappointing to say the least.  I am one of the ones who bought a "ln-"
D 
> from KEH and was off and running with an old KA lens and 512MB compact
flash 
> card from Walmart almost as fast as I could everything together.  Other
than 
> the RAW files,  I'm very impressed with the D and am having a lot of fun 
> with it..




Re: More Damned Digi Problems

2005-09-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
If you have a Costco card, you'll find that they sell SanDisk Ultra II 
1 gig cards for about $80. That's the CF price. SD might be a bit more. 
But you save the shipping cost.

Paul
On Sep 6, 2005, at 7:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


In a message dated 9/6/2005 1:57:42 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Anyway, I'm not writing this to evoke sympathy, rather, to alert you 
to the

miserable service this store provides.

Shel
=
I like mydigitaldiscount or Amazon for media.

HTH, Marnie





Re: More Damned Digi Problems

2005-09-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Thanks, David ... I like to support my local retailer, and generally do,
except there are none around here to support for the items I wanted this
time.  However, over the years I've had nothing but good to great results
buying from e-businesses  - mostly great results - so, while this has been
a frustrating and annoying experience it A) balances out with the other
experiences, and B) gives me something to complain about  

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: David Savage 
> Subject: Re: More Damned Digi Problems
>
> I'm sorry to hear of all the problems your having Shel. Your baptism
> in DSLR ownership has surely started out  in a shitty way.
>
> This is why I prefer shopping in a reatil store. Sometimes the extra
> cost is worth it. :-) Then again sometimes it's not 




Re: More Damned Digi Problems

2005-09-06 Thread R.C.Booth
I'm certainly not going to gloat.  Shel's misfortunes have got to be very 
disappointing to say the least.  I am one of the ones who bought a "ln-" D 
from KEH and was off and running with an old KA lens and 512MB compact flash 
card from Walmart almost as fast as I could everything together.  Other than 
the RAW files,  I'm very impressed with the D and am having a lot of fun 
with it..


RCB
- Original Message - 
From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: More Damned Digi Problems



I'm sorry to hear of all the problems your having Shel. Your baptism
in DSLR ownership has surely started out  in a shitty way.

This is why I prefer shopping in a reatil store. Sometimes the extra
cost is worth it. :-) Then again sometimes it's not 

Dave

On 9/7/05, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Well, OK, not digi per se, but problems dealing with on line digi stores.

The moment I ordered the DS, I ordered an SD card from
http://www.flash-memory-store.com/

At Godfrey's suggestion I ordered a 60X ATP card on August 29 @ about
7:00am.  The web site (http://www.flash-memory-store.com/) guarantees
shipping the same day if an order is placed before 6:00pm.

The card wasn't shipped until Sept 1, which meant that in order for me to
use the DS I had to drive to another town to buy an SD card.  Flash 
Memory

Store did not perform as promised.  Today I received the memory card.  It
was not the 60X ATP card, but rather, a slower (much slower by my
estimation) plain vanilla no-name card.

I called the store to discuss the matter and ended up with recorded 
message

about how important my business is to them, continued by the comment that
no one can take my call now.  

Anyway, I'm not writing this to evoke sympathy, rather, to alert you to 
the

miserable service this store provides.

I could have purchased a card for a few dollars more from a store that 
was

"slower" to ship, and gotten faster and better service.

Shel







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Re: More Damned Digi Problems

2005-09-06 Thread David Savage
I'm sorry to hear of all the problems your having Shel. Your baptism
in DSLR ownership has surely started out  in a shitty way.

This is why I prefer shopping in a reatil store. Sometimes the extra
cost is worth it. :-) Then again sometimes it's not 

Dave

On 9/7/05, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, OK, not digi per se, but problems dealing with on line digi stores.
> 
> The moment I ordered the DS, I ordered an SD card from
> http://www.flash-memory-store.com/
> 
> At Godfrey's suggestion I ordered a 60X ATP card on August 29 @ about
> 7:00am.  The web site (http://www.flash-memory-store.com/) guarantees
> shipping the same day if an order is placed before 6:00pm.
> 
> The card wasn't shipped until Sept 1, which meant that in order for me to
> use the DS I had to drive to another town to buy an SD card.  Flash Memory
> Store did not perform as promised.  Today I received the memory card.  It
> was not the 60X ATP card, but rather, a slower (much slower by my
> estimation) plain vanilla no-name card.
> 
> I called the store to discuss the matter and ended up with recorded message
> about how important my business is to them, continued by the comment that
> no one can take my call now.  
> 
> Anyway, I'm not writing this to evoke sympathy, rather, to alert you to the
> miserable service this store provides.
> 
> I could have purchased a card for a few dollars more from a store that was
> "slower" to ship, and gotten faster and better service.
> 
> Shel
> 
> 
>



Re: More Damned Digi Problems

2005-09-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/6/2005 1:57:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Anyway, I'm not writing this to evoke sympathy, rather, to alert you to the
miserable service this store provides.

Shel 
=
I like mydigitaldiscount or Amazon for media.

HTH, Marnie 



Re: More Damned Digi Problems

2005-09-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
All stores I've used, but I was swayed by the guarantee of immediate
shipment.

Well, hopefully this is the last of the "etail" problems.  BuyDig was very
responsive about replacing the DS, and I shipped it off today, being very
careful to follow all of their instructions.  Even though there originally
was a glitch in their getting my CC approved - I had to call them and give
them some additional info - once that was resolved the camera was in the
shipping queue and on its way to Casa Belinkoff in just a few hours.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi 


> Sorry to hear about your etail problems. Some of these vendors are  
> truly crappy.
>
> I  suggested NewEgg.com and Buy.com as reliable vendors. I'm not sure  
> that they sell ATP cards, but they certainly carry Transcend, Sandisk  
> Ultra and other name brands of 60x cards. The ATP cards are the best  
> I've seen, but the differences are tiny and I've not had any  
> difficulty with any of them. Fry's Electronics (Outpost.com) is also  
> usually reliable and sells the ATP brand.




Re: More Damned Digi Problems

2005-09-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Good idea, Peter.  I'll give the jamokes at the store a reasonable time to
get back to me and make good, then I'll call the CC people. Thanks.  I'd
not thought of that.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: P. J. Alling 

> If you used a credit card call your card company and lodge a complaint 
> with them of non performance.  They'll reverse the
> payment to the store.  That usually gets their attention.
>
> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>
> >Well, OK, not digi per se, but problems dealing with on line digi stores.
> >
> >The moment I ordered the DS, I ordered an SD card from
> >http://www.flash-memory-store.com/  
> >
> >At Godfrey's suggestion I ordered a 60X ATP card on August 29 @ about
> >7:00am.  The web site (http://www.flash-memory-store.com/) guarantees
> >shipping the same day if an order is placed before 6:00pm.
> >
> >The card wasn't shipped until Sept 1, which meant that in order for me to
> >use the DS I had to drive to another town to buy an SD card.  Flash
Memory
> >Store did not perform as promised.  Today I received the memory card.  It
> >was not the 60X ATP card, but rather, a slower (much slower by my
> >estimation) plain vanilla no-name card.
> >
> >I called the store to discuss the matter and ended up with recorded
message
> >about how important my business is to them, continued by the comment that
> >no one can take my call now.  
> >
> >Anyway, I'm not writing this to evoke sympathy, rather, to alert you to
the
> >miserable service this store provides.
> >
> >I could have purchased a card for a few dollars more from a store that
was
> >"slower" to ship, and gotten faster and better service.
> >
> >Shel 
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> >
>
>
> -- 
> When you're worried or in doubt, 
>   Run in circles, (scream and shout).




Re: More Damned Digi Problems

2005-09-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Sorry to hear about your etail problems. Some of these vendors are  
truly crappy.


I  suggested NewEgg.com and Buy.com as reliable vendors. I'm not sure  
that they sell ATP cards, but they certainly carry Transcend, Sandisk  
Ultra and other name brands of 60x cards. The ATP cards are the best  
I've seen, but the differences are tiny and I've not had any  
difficulty with any of them. Fry's Electronics (Outpost.com) is also  
usually reliable and sells the ATP brand.


Godfrey

BTW, there's an SFDIG gathering this evening in San Francisco. The  
topic matter for presentation is on digital inkjet printing. I'll  
send you the info if anyone is interested to attend. Cost is $15.  
(I'll be there.)


Godfrey

On Sep 6, 2005, at 1:56 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Well, OK, not digi per se, but problems dealing with on line digi  
stores.


The moment I ordered the DS, I ordered an SD card from
http://www.flash-memory-store.com/

At Godfrey's suggestion I ordered a 60X ATP card on August 29 @ about
7:00am.  The web site (http://www.flash-memory-store.com/) guarantees
shipping the same day if an order is placed before 6:00pm.

The card wasn't shipped until Sept 1, which meant that in order for  
me to
use the DS I had to drive to another town to buy an SD card.  Flash  
Memory
Store did not perform as promised.  Today I received the memory  
card.  It

was not the 60X ATP card, but rather, a slower (much slower by my
estimation) plain vanilla no-name card.

I called the store to discuss the matter and ended up with recorded  
message
about how important my business is to them, continued by the  
comment that

no one can take my call now.  

Anyway, I'm not writing this to evoke sympathy, rather, to alert  
you to the

miserable service this store provides.

I could have purchased a card for a few dollars more from a store  
that was

"slower" to ship, and gotten faster and better service.

Shel







Re: More Damned Digi Problems

2005-09-06 Thread P. J. Alling
If you used a credit card call your card company and lodge a complaint 
with them of non performance.  They'll reverse the

payment to the store.  That usually gets their attention.

Shel Belinkoff wrote:


Well, OK, not digi per se, but problems dealing with on line digi stores.

The moment I ordered the DS, I ordered an SD card from
http://www.flash-memory-store.com/  


At Godfrey's suggestion I ordered a 60X ATP card on August 29 @ about
7:00am.  The web site (http://www.flash-memory-store.com/) guarantees
shipping the same day if an order is placed before 6:00pm.

The card wasn't shipped until Sept 1, which meant that in order for me to
use the DS I had to drive to another town to buy an SD card.  Flash Memory
Store did not perform as promised.  Today I received the memory card.  It
was not the 60X ATP card, but rather, a slower (much slower by my
estimation) plain vanilla no-name card.

I called the store to discuss the matter and ended up with recorded message
about how important my business is to them, continued by the comment that
no one can take my call now.  

Anyway, I'm not writing this to evoke sympathy, rather, to alert you to the
miserable service this store provides.

I could have purchased a card for a few dollars more from a store that was
"slower" to ship, and gotten faster and better service.

Shel 




 




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When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).




More Damned Digi Problems

2005-09-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Well, OK, not digi per se, but problems dealing with on line digi stores.

The moment I ordered the DS, I ordered an SD card from
http://www.flash-memory-store.com/  

At Godfrey's suggestion I ordered a 60X ATP card on August 29 @ about
7:00am.  The web site (http://www.flash-memory-store.com/) guarantees
shipping the same day if an order is placed before 6:00pm.

The card wasn't shipped until Sept 1, which meant that in order for me to
use the DS I had to drive to another town to buy an SD card.  Flash Memory
Store did not perform as promised.  Today I received the memory card.  It
was not the 60X ATP card, but rather, a slower (much slower by my
estimation) plain vanilla no-name card.

I called the store to discuss the matter and ended up with recorded message
about how important my business is to them, continued by the comment that
no one can take my call now.  

Anyway, I'm not writing this to evoke sympathy, rather, to alert you to the
miserable service this store provides.

I could have purchased a card for a few dollars more from a store that was
"slower" to ship, and gotten faster and better service.

Shel