Re: Finally getting some new from 2011 pictures on my Website.

[Walt Gilbert]

Wow, Ted! I almost missed this post entirely!

You've got some great shots in there, and it looks like you made the 
best of your trip out to California.  Glad to see you back online, and I 
hope you're doing well these days. The photos of Steel Creek brought 
back fond memories.


-- Walt

On 2/8/2012 2:14 AM, Theodore Beilby wrote:

Between all the computer problems we have had this year, and all the miles I
drove to take pictures, I guess that I should post some. I have added some new
pages to my website:  www.beilbyvisualarts.com

Index for Roadtrip 2011   http://www.beilbyvisualarts.com/id28.html

  shots from Arches National Park, Canyonlands NP., California and
Oregon.

Aluminum Overcast   http://www.beilbyvisualarts.com/id34.html

   Shots of the EAA's B-17, Aluminum Overcast on a visit to 
Fayetteville.

Steel Creek   http://www.beilbyvisualarts.com/id35.html

Ft. Smith Airshow 2011 http://www.beilbyvisualarts.com/id36.html


More pages to come in the next few days. Comments are appreciated and welcome.
Most of these were processed in the BETA Lightroom 4.0.


Ted Beilby

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Re: Finally getting some new from 2011 pictures on my Website.

[Bob Sullivan]

Ted,
This is too many good photos at once!
I can't absorb all of them.
My first visit was the airplanes - Aluminum Overcast & Ft. Smith Airshow 2011.
Then I loved the colors in the Steel Creek set, and
the Roadtrip visit to Canyonlands NP. was most beautiful.
You also should get these set-up so you can move directly to the next photo.
It gets to be a drag to pull up a photo, then close the window, then
pull up another.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 2:14 AM, Theodore Beilby  wrote:
> Between all the computer problems we have had this year, and all the miles I
> drove to take pictures, I guess that I should post some. I have added some new
> pages to my website:  www.beilbyvisualarts.com
>
> Index for Roadtrip 2011       http://www.beilbyvisualarts.com/id28.html
>
>         shots from Arches National Park, Canyonlands NP., California and
> Oregon.
>
> Aluminum Overcast               http://www.beilbyvisualarts.com/id34.html
>
>          Shots of the EAA's B-17, Aluminum Overcast on a visit to 
> Fayetteville.
>
> Steel Creek                           
> http://www.beilbyvisualarts.com/id35.html
>
> Ft. Smith Airshow 2011         http://www.beilbyvisualarts.com/id36.html
>
>
> More pages to come in the next few days. Comments are appreciated and welcome.
> Most of these were processed in the BETA Lightroom 4.0.
>
>
> Ted Beilby
>
>  "The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer." Albert Maysles
>
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Re: Finally getting some new from 2011 pictures on my Website.

[Brian Walters]

Quoting Theodore Beilby :


Between all the computer problems we have had this year, and all the miles I
drove to take pictures, I guess that I should post some. I have  
added some new

pages to my website:  www.beilbyvisualarts.com

Index for Roadtrip 2011   http://www.beilbyvisualarts.com/id28.html

 shots from Arches National Park, Canyonlands NP., California and
Oregon.

Aluminum Overcast   http://www.beilbyvisualarts.com/id34.html

  Shots of the EAA's B-17, Aluminum Overcast on a visit to  
Fayetteville.


Steel Creek
http://www.beilbyvisualarts.com/id35.html


Ft. Smith Airshow 2011 http://www.beilbyvisualarts.com/id36.html




Some very nice work there.

I like the airshow set, especially the last one on the 6th row and the  
first on the 7th (it's a bit difficult to comment individually because  
they all open at the same URL).  Also, the Steel Creek set - I've seen  
some of yours from that location before - looks like a great spot for  
photography.


The Arches National Park set is superb, although I suspect it might be  
difficult to take a bad photo there :-)>


You've been to some wonderful locations - I'm envious.



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Finally getting some new from 2011 pictures on my Website.

[Theodore Beilby]

Between all the computer problems we have had this year, and all the miles I 
drove to take pictures, I guess that I should post some. I have added some new 
pages to my website:  www.beilbyvisualarts.com

Index for Roadtrip 2011   http://www.beilbyvisualarts.com/id28.html 

 shots from Arches National Park, Canyonlands NP., California and 
Oregon.
 
Aluminum Overcast   http://www.beilbyvisualarts.com/id34.html 

  Shots of the EAA's B-17, Aluminum Overcast on a visit to Fayetteville.

Steel Creek   http://www.beilbyvisualarts.com/id35.html

Ft. Smith Airshow 2011 http://www.beilbyvisualarts.com/id36.html 


More pages to come in the next few days. Comments are appreciated and welcome. 
Most of these were processed in the BETA Lightroom 4.0. 


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How To Turn Off Sound on my Website

[Andrew Allen]

Just saw a couple of questions about not wanting to hear the sound on
my website (www.andrewallenphoto.com) as the opening slideshow plays.
If you take your mouse and hover over the shot being displayed in the
slideshow, there is a mute button you can press to turn off the music
- I know not everyone wants to hear it.

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Re: my website

[Boris Liberman]

Well done, Luka. I may only add that for some reason (or was it 
intentional) I had to press Back button of my browser when looking at 
your pictures. This is fine but given the really excellent front page 
there is a bit of dis-balance here. May be some most simple wrapping of 
your photos could be useful.


Boris


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www.lukaknezevicstrika.com

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Re: my website

[Miserere]

On 23 October 2010 07:27, Luka Knezevic-Strika  wrote:
> thx guys, i'm glad you like it. the problem with no links, as my
> friend who did the technical part of the website informed me, is due
> of inability of fancybox to operate that way. if someone has the idea
> how to keep the same simple slideshow (no transitions, no nothing) and
> add this as an option, i'm listening

If that's how it is, Luka, then leave it! I like having the URL to
images available to me (from my websites) to post in fora, etc, but if
you have no issue with it, then that's that.

Now let me praise some of your photos, which I'll have to describe  :-)

* People walking along snowy rail tracks.
* Lady with pink umbrella crossing flooded street.
* Party shot with guy smoking cigarette.

I did look through all the galleries, but my favourites were all in
the same gallery  :-)


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Re: my website

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On 23 October 2010 22:27, Luka Knezevic-Strika  wrote:
> thx guys, i'm glad you like it. the problem with no links, as my
> friend who did the technical part of the website informed me, is due
> of inability of fancybox to operate that way. if someone has the idea
> how to keep the same simple slideshow (no transitions, no nothing) and
> add this as an option, i'm listening

I quite like it as it is, it's a lovely uncluttered and modest layout
which serves the images well, nicely done, great images and I love the
intimacy that they portray.

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Re: my website

[Luka Knezevic-Strika]

thx guys, i'm glad you like it. the problem with no links, as my
friend who did the technical part of the website informed me, is due
of inability of fancybox to operate that way. if someone has the idea
how to keep the same simple slideshow (no transitions, no nothing) and
add this as an option, i'm listening

On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 7:19 AM, Derby Chang  wrote:
> On 22/10/2010 8:20 PM, Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote:
>>
>> www.lukaknezevicstrika.com
>>
>> my first website. c and c welcome!
>>
>
>
> I've always liked your photos, Luka. Rich, mysterious and very human. Seeing
> them in together here in series is an order of magnitude more rewarding.
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[Derby Chang]

On 22/10/2010 8:20 PM, Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote:

www.lukaknezevicstrika.com

my first website. c and c welcome!




I've always liked your photos, Luka. Rich, mysterious and very human. 
Seeing them in together here in series is an order of magnitude more 
rewarding.



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RE: my website

[Bob W]

> www.lukaknezevicstrika.com
> 
> my first website. c and c welcome!

really good site, even better photos.

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Re: my website

[Bruce Walker]

On 10-10-22 5:20 AM, Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote:

www.lukaknezevicstrika.com

my first website. c and c welcome!


Elegant design. Showcases your work very well. I like it!

Two thumbs up.

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Re: my website

[Miserere]

> Den 22. okt. 2010 kl. 11.20 skrev Luka Knezevic-Strika:
>
> www.lukaknezevicstrika.com
>
> my first website. c and c welcome!

Good stuff, Luka. Simple, sparse, and no overbearing use of Flash. It
seems to match your Photography style quite well. Lovely intimate
portraits of your partner and Life.

One thing I'm not sure I like is that I can't easily link to a
particular photo; I wanted to say "I really liked this photo" and link
to it, but couldn't. I can imagine others might have that issue too.

You shoot mainly film, do you?


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Re: my website

[DagT]

Very nice cite and pictures. I like the symbols and the very minimalist 
approach in the galleries. 

The only objection is that I was a little confused by the red "portfolio" text 
at the bottom of the home-page. At first I thought that was the only pictures 
at the site.

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Re: my website

[Nick David Wright]

Nice web site. Good photography.

Very interesting idea to put your portfolio up as a PDF document.

On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 4:36 AM, eckinator  wrote:
> nice. like the link symbols. have liked your work since day one. please add 
> more
> thanks for sharing
> ecke
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[eckinator]

nice. like the link symbols. have liked your work since day one. please add more
thanks for sharing
ecke

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Re: Reworked my website

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On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Toine  wrote:
> I wasted a lot of time in rebuilding my website. My images live inside
> the SSP Director database and allways needed flash to see the
> daylight. Flash didn't leave but I have found a way to pull the images
> from the database without flash. Maybe that's good news.
> Now I need to find my photogear...
>
> Toine
> http://www.repiuk.nl

Wow!  Cool site, wonderful photos.

I hate you.

;-)

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Re: Reworked my website

[Toine]

Sounds like a cool idea (someone stealing my pictures because they
like it). I would prefer if they ask first... Maybe I should use
watermarkings.

Toine

2010/1/19 Boris Liberman :
> Toine, it looks cool and works cool but for whatever it is worth, if you
> middle click (click with the rolling wheel of the mouse) on a photo - a new
> window is opened and the photo in there is in its purest form. E.g. it can
> be then taken away from your site.
>
> Cheers!
>
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Re: Reworked my website

[Boris Liberman]

Toine, it looks cool and works cool but for whatever it is worth, if you 
middle click (click with the rolling wheel of the mouse) on a photo - a 
new window is opened and the photo in there is in its purest form. E.g. 
it can be then taken away from your site.


Cheers!

Boris


On 1/15/2010 10:28 PM, Toine wrote:

I wasted a lot of time in rebuilding my website. My images live inside
the SSP Director database and allways needed flash to see the
daylight. Flash didn't leave but I have found a way to pull the images
from the database without flash. Maybe that's good news.
Now I need to find my photogear...

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Reworked my website

[Toine]

I wasted a lot of time in rebuilding my website. My images live inside
the SSP Director database and allways needed flash to see the
daylight. Flash didn't leave but I have found a way to pull the images
from the database without flash. Maybe that's good news.
Now I need to find my photogear...

Toine
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Re: My website ponder

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "David J Brooks"
Subject: Re: My website ponder



> I have posted on the BB a number of times, that posting pictures taken
> from sites or not paid for is against the BB rules. Maybe part of that
> message is getting through, as they, for the most part ar at least
> acknowladging the websites and photographers. I suppose this is a
> classic "catch 22", damed if you do, damed if you don't.
>
> Thanks for all the thoughts.

Your best anti theft device is to make the images on the small side with 
lots of compression, and then watermark them.
Here's a little trick for you if you write your own HTML.
Post the picture very small, just a few hundred pixels on a side, and them 
put larger size tags in the code to force the browser to resize the image. 
You can do at least a 50% increase this way before the quality goes to hell 
on the viewers screen, but when they try to download the picture they get a 
much smaller one.

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Re: My website ponder

[Doug Franklin]

Kenneth Waller wrote:
> I'm under the impression that there is no way to stop someone from 
> "stealing" an image posted on the web.

Logically, it couldn't be any other way.  To view it in a browser, the
image has to be downloaded.  At that point, it's out of the web server's
control.  Now, you could have some proprietary format that only your
viewer program can display, but it still ends up in the video card as an
array of pixels.

If it's protected well enough someone can't possibly steal it, they also
can't view it.

The only "safe" images aren't on the web.

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Re: My website ponder

[Kenneth Waller]

I'm under the impression that there is no way to stop someone from 
"stealing" an image posted on the web.
One reason I try to post the smallest file of an image that doesn't degrade 
web viewing.

All that copyright stuff will only help in - heaven forbid - a court of law.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: My website ponder


> Last year a few people sent me a right click script to help in web
> theft. I could not seem to get it to work, mostlikly not putting it
> exactly in the right spot.
>
> Now here is something to ponder.
>
> I have been on a few Weshots albums lately and i notice that, although
> my thumbs are still being taken and used to show their friends, even
> with copy right statment, they are giving photo credit and website
> info along with the photo.
>
> It still makes me mad, but less.
>
> Comments on this anyone.
>
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Re: My website ponder

[AlunFoto]

As others have mentioned, it's very hard to display images on the web
in a "nick-proof" way. Even if you embed them in a Flash-application
or similar, people can take screendumps.

There's a balance. Business lost to theft on one side, business gained
by increased exposure through the credits and the links on the
other...

Jostein


2007/6/12, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Not sure, but i would say some at least.
>
> Dave
>
> On 6/12/07, AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I don't really know what to think, Dave. Are you losing business from
> > this practice, do you think?
> >
> > Jostein
> >
> > 2007/6/12, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > Last year a few people sent me a right click script to help in web
> > > theft. I could not seem to get it to work, mostlikly not putting it
> > > exactly in the right spot.
> > >
> > > Now here is something to ponder.
> > >
> > > I have been on a few Weshots albums lately and i notice that, although
> > > my thumbs are still being taken and used to show their friends, even
> > > with copy right statment, they are giving photo credit and website
> > > info along with the photo.
> > >
> > > It still makes me mad, but less.
> > >
> > > Comments on this anyone.
> > >
> > > Dave

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Re: My website ponder

[P. J. Alling]

Actually it just makes it annoying enough that most normal geeks will 
decide it's not worth it.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a message dated 6/12/2007 9:50:28 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> On 12/6/07,  [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>   
>> Right click protection  usually means if you  right click the Save Picture 
>> 
> As 
>   
>> and Save  Target As are grayed out, disabled. So  it makes it harder to  
>> download a pic and save it. Not impossible, but a lot   harder.
>> 
>
> I challenge anyone to protect an image posted on the web. Post  your pic
> with no download capability at all, and I'll pop it up on a spare  web
> page. Prize to the one I can't.
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Re: My website ponder

[David J Brooks]

Not sure, but i would say some at least.

Dave

On 6/12/07, AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't really know what to think, Dave. Are you losing business from
> this practice, do you think?
>
> Jostein
>
> 2007/6/12, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Last year a few people sent me a right click script to help in web
> > theft. I could not seem to get it to work, mostlikly not putting it
> > exactly in the right spot.
> >
> > Now here is something to ponder.
> >
> > I have been on a few Weshots albums lately and i notice that, although
> > my thumbs are still being taken and used to show their friends, even
> > with copy right statment, they are giving photo credit and website
> > info along with the photo.
> >
> > It still makes me mad, but less.
> >
> > Comments on this anyone.
> >
> > Dave
> >
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Re: My website ponder

[David J Brooks]

On 6/12/07, ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David J Brooks wrote:
>
> >Last year a few people sent me a right click script to help in web
> >theft. I could not seem to get it to work, mostlikly not putting it
> >exactly in the right spot.
> >
> >Now here is something to ponder.
> >
> >I have been on a few Weshots albums lately and i notice that, although
> >my thumbs are still being taken and used to show their friends, even
> >with copy right statment, they are giving photo credit and website
> >info along with the photo.
> >
> >It still makes me mad, but less.
> >
> >Comments on this anyone.
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >
> I'm curious, How are you finding them?  Just on sites you know are
> connected with the horse shows?

Yes, on the Equine BB i help moderate, one of my forums is
Announcements and pictures. I look at those that are in my neck of the
woods. I noticed 3-4 today.

They all say they will order sometime during the year, some do , some don't.

I quess thats life on the information higway

Dave
>
> At smugmug I have "right click protection" checked which I thought meant
> that someone could try to
> print them out but they would come up blank.
>
> ann
>
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Re: My website ponder

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 6/12/2007 9:50:28 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 12/6/07,  [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:

>Right click protection  usually means if you  right click the Save Picture 
As 
>and Save  Target As are grayed out, disabled. So  it makes it harder to  
>download a pic and save it. Not impossible, but a lot   harder.

I challenge anyone to protect an image posted on the web. Post  your pic
with no download capability at all, and I'll pop it up on a spare  web
page. Prize to the one I can't.

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which, despite appearances to the contrary,  there are still plenty. Gee, 
Cotty, 
just what have you been up to in your spare  time? ;-)

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Re: My website ponder

[Cotty]

On 12/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:

>Right click protection usually means if you  right click the Save Picture As 
>and Save Target As are grayed out, disabled. So  it makes it harder to 
>download a pic and save it. Not impossible, but a lot  harder.

I challenge anyone to protect an image posted on the web. Post your pic
with no download capability at all, and I'll pop it up on a spare web
page. Prize to the one I can't.

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Re: My website ponder

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 6/12/2007 6:46:00 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
At smugmug I have "right  click protection" checked which I thought meant 
that someone could try  to
print them out but they would come up blank.   

ann


Right click protection usually means if you  right click the Save Picture As 
and Save Target As are grayed out, disabled. So  it makes it harder to 
download a pic and save it. Not impossible, but a lot  harder.

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Re: My website ponder

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/06/12 Tue PM 01:42:03 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: My website ponder
> 
> David J Brooks wrote:
> 
> >Last year a few people sent me a right click script to help in web
> >theft. I could not seem to get it to work, mostlikly not putting it
> >exactly in the right spot.
> >
> >Now here is something to ponder.
> >
> >I have been on a few Weshots albums lately and i notice that, although
> >my thumbs are still being taken and used to show their friends, even
> >with copy right statment, they are giving photo credit and website
> >info along with the photo.
> >
> >It still makes me mad, but less.
> >
> >Comments on this anyone.
> >
> >Dave
> >  
> >
> I'm curious, How are you finding them?  Just on sites you know are 
> connected with the horse shows?
> 
> At smugmug I have "right click protection" checked which I thought meant 
> that someone could try to
> print them out but they would come up blank.  

All that does is disable right clicking and "save image" or whatever the 
flavour is on your particular browser.  To bypass, you just open an image 
viewing programme and look in your browser's cache for it.  

_Then_ rightclicksaveimage.

Vista probably doesn't allow access to caches.  8-)))


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Re: My website ponder

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "David J Brooks"
Subject: My website ponder


> Last year a few people sent me a right click script to help in web
> theft. I could not seem to get it to work, mostlikly not putting it
> exactly in the right spot.
>
> Now here is something to ponder.
>
> I have been on a few Weshots albums lately and i notice that, although
> my thumbs are still being taken and used to show their friends, even
> with copy right statment, they are giving photo credit and website
> info along with the photo.
>
> It still makes me mad, but less.
>
> Comments on this anyone.

The web is like a shopping mall, your pictures are like belongings that you 
leave on the benches in the mall when you leave.
When you put stuff on the web, you may as well forget about protecting your 
rights regarding copying.

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Re: My website ponder

[ann sanfedele]

David J Brooks wrote:

>Last year a few people sent me a right click script to help in web
>theft. I could not seem to get it to work, mostlikly not putting it
>exactly in the right spot.
>
>Now here is something to ponder.
>
>I have been on a few Weshots albums lately and i notice that, although
>my thumbs are still being taken and used to show their friends, even
>with copy right statment, they are giving photo credit and website
>info along with the photo.
>
>It still makes me mad, but less.
>
>Comments on this anyone.
>
>Dave
>  
>
I'm curious, How are you finding them?  Just on sites you know are 
connected with the horse shows?

At smugmug I have "right click protection" checked which I thought meant 
that someone could try to
print them out but they would come up blank.  

ann




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Re: My website ponder

[Doug Franklin]

David J Brooks wrote:

> I have been on a few Weshots albums lately and i notice that, although
> my thumbs are still being taken and used to show their friends, even
> with copy right statment, they are giving photo credit and website
> info along with the photo.

Maybe that script is working on their browsers. :-)

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Re: My website ponder

[AlunFoto]

I don't really know what to think, Dave. Are you losing business from
this practice, do you think?

Jostein

2007/6/12, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Last year a few people sent me a right click script to help in web
> theft. I could not seem to get it to work, mostlikly not putting it
> exactly in the right spot.
>
> Now here is something to ponder.
>
> I have been on a few Weshots albums lately and i notice that, although
> my thumbs are still being taken and used to show their friends, even
> with copy right statment, they are giving photo credit and website
> info along with the photo.
>
> It still makes me mad, but less.
>
> Comments on this anyone.
>
> Dave
>
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> www.caughtinmotion.com
> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
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My website ponder

[David J Brooks]

Last year a few people sent me a right click script to help in web
theft. I could not seem to get it to work, mostlikly not putting it
exactly in the right spot.

Now here is something to ponder.

I have been on a few Weshots albums lately and i notice that, although
my thumbs are still being taken and used to show their friends, even
with copy right statment, they are giving photo credit and website
info along with the photo.

It still makes me mad, but less.

Comments on this anyone.

Dave

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Re: My website has moved...

[Kostas Kavoussanakis]

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Albano Garcia wrote:

> I'm still here, but my job (quitting soon), university
> and girlfriend leaves few space for pdml.
> Just wanted to let you know that my website has moved
> to a new domain:
>
> http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar

Albano,

I was quite pleased to see an email from you on the list the other
day. As I have broadband at home (as of Monday :-) I got the
opportunity to check your site. Really good, fresh (for me) stuff.

If you don't know about Albano, it's worth a look.

Kostas

Re: My website has moved...

[Gonz]

:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:>:<:<:<:<:<:<:<:<:<:<:":L":":":":
Norm Baugher wrote:
Jjowlkj kljo know sanxz, oiuer noikt lkje?
Norm
Anders Hultman wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Er det ønskelig med flere språk nå, eller blir det bare sært med
norske bokstaver?
  

De norska tecknen ser helt okej ut härifrån, men jag är kanske partisk 
:-)

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med dagens bild och allt!
 

Re: My website has moved...

[Norm Baugher]

Jjowlkj kljo know sanxz, oiuer noikt lkje?
Norm
Anders Hultman wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Er det ønskelig med flere språk nå, eller blir det bare sært med
norske bokstaver?
   

De norska tecknen ser helt okej ut härifrån, men jag är kanske partisk :-)
anders
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med dagens bild och allt!
 

RE: My website has moved...

[Anders Hultman]

On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Er det ønskelig med flere språk nå, eller blir det bare sært med
> norske bokstaver?

De norska tecknen ser helt okej ut härifrån, men jag är kanske partisk :-)

anders
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RE: My website has moved...

[dagt]

Er det ønskelig med flere språk nå, eller blir det bare sært med norske bokstaver?

DagT

> Fra: Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> On Thu, 1 Jul 2004, Markus Maurer wrote:
> 
> > Antonio
> > du bisch würklich än Sibesiech, zeigsch eus jedesmal, was du alles chasch,
> > gäll!
> > Markus
> >
> > > Ah, ¡justo ayer estaba mirando un Rollieflex 2.8F en eBay! No se si
> >  Es una forma que siempre me
> > > ha gustado, y ahora mas.
> > >
> > > Saludos,
> > > Antonio
> 
> Antwnakh eisai teleiws gia ta mpaza.
> 
> Kwstas
> 
> 

RE: My website has moved...

[Kostas Kavoussanakis]

On Thu, 1 Jul 2004, Markus Maurer wrote:

> Antonio
> du bisch würklich än Sibesiech, zeigsch eus jedesmal, was du alles chasch,
> gäll!
> Markus
>
> > Ah, ¡justo ayer estaba mirando un Rollieflex 2.8F en eBay! No se si
>  Es una forma que siempre me
> > ha gustado, y ahora mas.
> >
> > Saludos,
> > Antonio

Antwnakh eisai teleiws gia ta mpaza.

Kwstas

RE: My website has moved...

[Markus Maurer]

Antonio
du bisch würklich än Sibesiech, zeigsch eus jedesmal, was du alles chasch,
gäll!
Markus

> Ah, ¡justo ayer estaba mirando un Rollieflex 2.8F en eBay! No se si
 Es una forma que siempre me
> ha gustado, y ahora mas.
>
> Saludos,
> Antonio

Re: My website has moved...

[Antonio Aparicio]

Ah, ¡justo ayer estaba mirando un Rollieflex 2.8F en eBay! No se si 
optar por ese o el Rollei 6008 con lentes intercambiables pero 
desde luego me encanta el formato cuadrado. Es una forma que siempre me 
ha gustado, y ahora mas.

Saludos,
Antonio
On 30 Jun 2004, at 23:34, Albano Garcia wrote:
Hola Antonio,
gracias por los elogios. La sección diseño está en
construcción (estará disponible pronto).
Las fotos de la casa de mi tía abulea Dominga (94
años), las saqué con una Rolleiflex 3.5 E2, una joyita
de cámara, por lejos mi favorita.
Saludos
Albano

--- Antonio Aparicio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hola Albano, no creo que hemos hablado antes. Me
gustan mucho tus fotos
y tu pagina web. Tienes buen ojo y buen gusto. A
proposito, el boton de
"design" no hace nada, o al menos asi era mi
experiencia cuando visite
la pagina. Las fotos de la señora mayor y su casa
son especialment
buenas. Que ustaste un 6x6?
Saludos,
Antonio
On 30 Jun 2004, at 22:06, Albano Garcia wrote:
Hi gang,
I'm still here, but my job (quitting soon),
university
and girlfriend leaves few space for pdml.
Just wanted to let you know that my website has
moved
to a new domain:
http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar
There are some new pics.
The design section will be ready soon.
By the way, if somebody needs to design his/her
website, I can offer my services (low prices)
Regards

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Re: My website has moved...

[Albano Garcia]

Hola Antonio,
gracias por los elogios. La sección diseño está en
construcción (estará disponible pronto).
Las fotos de la casa de mi tía abulea Dominga (94
años), las saqué con una Rolleiflex 3.5 E2, una joyita
de cámara, por lejos mi favorita.
Saludos

Albano



--- Antonio Aparicio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hola Albano, no creo que hemos hablado antes. Me
> gustan mucho tus fotos 
> y tu pagina web. Tienes buen ojo y buen gusto. A
> proposito, el boton de 
> "design" no hace nada, o al menos asi era mi
> experiencia cuando visite 
> la pagina. Las fotos de la señora mayor y su casa
> son especialment 
> buenas. Que ustaste un 6x6?
> 
> Saludos,
> Antonio
> 
> On 30 Jun 2004, at 22:06, Albano Garcia wrote:
> 
> > Hi gang,
> > I'm still here, but my job (quitting soon),
> university
> > and girlfriend leaves few space for pdml.
> > Just wanted to let you know that my website has
> moved
> > to a new domain:
> >
> > http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar
> >
> > There are some new pics.
> > The design section will be ready soon.
> > By the way, if somebody needs to design his/her
> > website, I can offer my services (low prices)
> > Regards
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > =
> > Albano Garcia
> > "El Pibe Asahi"
> >
> >
> > 
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Re: My website has moved...

[Antonio Aparicio]

Hola Albano, no creo que hemos hablado antes. Me gustan mucho tus fotos 
y tu pagina web. Tienes buen ojo y buen gusto. A proposito, el boton de 
"design" no hace nada, o al menos asi era mi experiencia cuando visite 
la pagina. Las fotos de la señora mayor y su casa son especialment 
buenas. Que ustaste un 6x6?

Saludos,
Antonio
On 30 Jun 2004, at 22:06, Albano Garcia wrote:
Hi gang,
I'm still here, but my job (quitting soon), university
and girlfriend leaves few space for pdml.
Just wanted to let you know that my website has moved
to a new domain:
http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar
There are some new pics.
The design section will be ready soon.
By the way, if somebody needs to design his/her
website, I can offer my services (low prices)
Regards

=
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"El Pibe Asahi"

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[Albano Garcia]

Hi gang,
I'm still here, but my job (quitting soon), university
and girlfriend leaves few space for pdml.
Just wanted to let you know that my website has moved
to a new domain:

http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar

There are some new pics. 
The design section will be ready soon.
By the way, if somebody needs to design his/her
website, I can offer my services (low prices)
Regards




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"El Pibe Asahi"



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[Albano Garcia]

Hi gang,
I'm still here, but my job (quitting soon), university
and girlfriend leaves few space for pdml.
Just wanted to let you know that my website has moved
to a new domain:

http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar

There are some new pics. 
The design section will be ready soon.
By the way, if somebody needs to design his/her
website, I can offer my services (low prices)
Regards




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Re: Only -PUG June is available on my website

[Norm Baugher]

Oh Bob, stop bitching 
Norm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Adelheid,
I hope the submission process gets better soon.
 

RE: Only -PUG June is available on my website

[Malcolm Smith]

Hi Adelheid, 

> I am afraid this is Jostein's part.
> The autopug is his baby.
> If you are in doubt please send the submission as mail to 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a sensible Subject. 
> Otherwise it gets caught in my Spamfilter.
> 
> Then I'll check whether it made it or not and submit it myself. 
> It might have something to do with time outs.
> Or you tried to submit a picture which is too big. This won't 
> be accepted and if it is really big the site times out.
> I got one pic with 1 MB once and this definitely kills the page.

I attempted to send a submission this month, but I suspect the problem is at
my end rather than yours. I will put up a PAW version instead of this over
the weekend. 

The PUG is a fantastic resource and thanks to both yourself and Jostein for
providing this.

Malcolm

RE: Only -PUG June is available on my website

[Adelheid v. K.]

I am afraid this is Jostein's part.
The autopug is his baby.
If you are in doubt please send the submission as mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with
a sensible Subject. 
Otherwise it gets caught in my Spamfilter.

Then I'll check whether it made it or not and submit it myself. 
It might have something to do with time outs.
Or you tried to submit a picture which is too big. This won't be accepted
and if it is really big the site times out.
I got one pic with 1 MB once and this definitely kills the page.

Cheers
Adelheid


 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Freitag, 28. Mai 2004 19:52
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Only -PUG June is available on my website

Adelheid,

I hope the submission process gets better soon.

This is the 2nd or third month that I have worked to prepare and submit
something only to find nothing in the PUG.  It's frustrating.  

The AutoPUG submission page errored off as the last response I got after
pressing SUBMIT.  Does this mean it went thru and then errored or that it
didn't go thru at all? (most likely)  I just couldn't tell and without a
confirmation, I didn't know.

Regards,  Bob S.

Adelheid writes:

> Hi folks,
> 
> The June PUG is ready on my website.
> 
> This means:
> 
> Some links on this page are NOT!!! working.
> But you have at least a link to Josteins page and you can look at the 
> pictures of June.
> 
> I don't have much space on my site, so only the current month and last 
> month is available! No archives as such.
> 
> So now the issue of the URL
> It will change each month at present it is:
> http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/04jun
> 
> I hope this helps a little.
> Please be patient, the server connection is not as good as the one on 
> the komkon server.
> 
> Cheers
> Adelheid

Re: Only -PUG June is available on my website

[Rfsindg]

Adelheid,

I hope the submission process gets better soon.

This is the 2nd or third month that I have worked to prepare and submit something only 
to find nothing in the PUG.  It's frustrating.  

The AutoPUG submission page errored off as the last response I got after pressing 
SUBMIT.  Does this mean it went thru and then errored or that it didn't go thru at 
all? (most likely)  I just couldn't tell and without a confirmation, I didn't know.

Regards,  Bob S.

Adelheid writes:

> Hi folks,
> 
> The June PUG is ready on my website.
> 
> This means:
> 
> Some links on this page are NOT!!! working.
> But you have at least a link to Josteins page and you can look at the
> pictures of June.
> 
> I don't have much space on my site, so only the current month and last month
> is available! No archives as such.
> 
> So now the issue of the URL
> It will change each month at present it is:
> http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/04jun
> 
> I hope this helps a little.
> Please be patient, the server connection is not as good as 
> the one on the
> komkon server.
> 
> Cheers
> Adelheid

RE: ONLY -PUG June is available on my website

[Adelheid v. K.]

Clear your cache.
Or try to reload.

It works fine on my end.

Cheers
Adelheid
 

-Original Message-
From: Bob Blakely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Freitag, 28. Mai 2004 17:36
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ONLY -PUG June is available on my website

I see everything *except* the thumbnails. Contributor's names are there, but
nothing to click on.

Regards,
Bob...
---
"No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in
session."
  -- Mark Twain


From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Adelheid:
>
> Thank you so much.
>
> ERN
>
> Adelheid told us:
> > The June PUG is ready on my website.  (... snip ...)
>
> > So now the issue of the URL
> > It will change each month at present it is:
> > http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/04jun

Re: ONLY -PUG June is available on my website

[Bob Blakely]

I see everything *except* the thumbnails. Contributor's names are there, but
nothing to click on.

Regards,
Bob...
---
"No man’s life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in
session."
  -- Mark Twain


From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Adelheid:
>
> Thank you so much.
>
> ERN
>
> Adelheid told us:
> > The June PUG is ready on my website.  (... snip ...)
>
> > So now the issue of the URL
> > It will change each month at present it is:
> > http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/04jun

Re: ONLY -PUG June is available on my website

[ernreed2]

Adelheid:

Thank you so much.

ERN

Adelheid told us:
> The June PUG is ready on my website.  (... snip ...)

> So now the issue of the URL
> It will change each month at present it is:
> http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/04jun
 
(snip)

ONLY -PUG June is available on my website

[Adelheid v. K.]

Hi folks,

The June PUG is ready on my website.

This means:

Some links on this page are NOT!!! working.
But you have at least a link to Josteins page and you can look at the
pictures of June.

I don't have much space on my site, so only the current month and last month
is available! No archives as such.

So now the issue of the URL
It will change each month at present it is:
http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/04jun

I hope this helps a little.
Please be patient, the server connection is not as good as the one on the
komkon server.

Cheers
Adelheid

Re: ONLY - Pug April is available on my website

[frank theriault]

Thanks, Gianfranco,

I've been working on my street photography...  

cheers,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: Gianfranco Irlanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Yours is, in fact, a great shot (that's street photography for
sure!) and I like it a lot.
Ciao,

Gianfranco

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Re: ONLY - Pug April is available on my website

[Gianfranco Irlanda]

frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Thanks Adelheid, Jostein, and anyone else who was involved
that I don't know 
> about.
> 
> Another wonderful gallery.  Initial gut reaction: 
Gianfranco's piccie 
> rocks!!

First, I add my thanks (again!) to Adelheid and Jostein for
their effort.
Second... Frank, thank you very much! You are very kind (this
time really TOO kind, as this picture of mine is not, in my
opinion, at the same level as my other submissions... ).
Yours is, in fact, a great shot (that's street photography for
sure!) and I like it a lot.

Ciao,

Gianfranco


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Re: ONLY - Pug April is available on my website

[Bill Kane]

Cheers to the Pugmeister!

Many Thanks to Adelheid for using his own server until Komkon comes 
back up!

IL Bill
On Wednesday, March 31, 2004, at 11:47 AM, Adelheid v. K. wrote:
Hi folks,

since der komkon server seems to be down again I decided to put at 
least the
April PUG on my own website.

This means:

Some links on this page are NOT!!! working.
But you have at least a link to Josteins page and you can look at the
pictures of April.
I don't have much space on my site, so only the current month is 
available!
No archives as such.

So now the issue of the URL
It will change each month at present it is:
http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/04apr
I will work out something more convenient if the komkon server stays 
out for
good.
If you have complaints questions about this site please use the mailing
address:

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The address on the page DOESN'T work!!!

I hope this helps a little.
Please be patient, the server connection is not as good as the one on 
the
komkon server.

Cheers
Adelheid

Re: ONLY - Pug April is available on my website

[Frits Wüthrich]

And a very nice PUG it is this month as well. Thanks Adelheid and all
the others who worked on getting this for us.
The webpages and photographs load quite quickly for me.

On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 19:47, Adelheid v. K. wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> since der komkon server seems to be down again I decided to put at least the
> April PUG on my own website.
> 
> This means:
> 
> Some links on this page are NOT!!! working.
> But you have at least a link to Josteins page and you can look at the
> pictures of April.
> 
> I don't have much space on my site, so only the current month is available!
> No archives as such.
> 
> So now the issue of the URL
> It will change each month at present it is:
> http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/04apr
> 
> I will work out something more convenient if the komkon server stays out for
> good.
> If you have complaints questions about this site please use the mailing
> address:
> 
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> The address on the page DOESN'T work!!!
> 
> I hope this helps a little.
> Please be patient, the server connection is not as good as the one on the
> komkon server.
> 
> Cheers
> Adelheid
> 
> 
-- 
Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

ONLY - Pug April is available on my website

[Adelheid v. K.]

Hi folks,

since der komkon server seems to be down again I decided to put at least the
April PUG on my own website.

This means:

Some links on this page are NOT!!! working.
But you have at least a link to Josteins page and you can look at the
pictures of April.

I don't have much space on my site, so only the current month is available!
No archives as such.

So now the issue of the URL
It will change each month at present it is:
http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/04apr

I will work out something more convenient if the komkon server stays out for
good.
If you have complaints questions about this site please use the mailing
address:

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The address on the page DOESN'T work!!!

I hope this helps a little.
Please be patient, the server connection is not as good as the one on the
komkon server.

Cheers
Adelheid

Re: ONLY - Pug march is available on my website

[ernreed2]

Peter said, regarding Adelheid's PUG arrangements:
> As this is above and beyond the call of duty how could we complain.

As a matter of fact, I'm sure we all are VERY appreciative of Adelheid's hard 
work.

ERN

Re: ONLY - Pug march is available on my website

[Frits Wüthrich]

That is why I am hesitant to report this Adelheid: hen I click on my
submission, I see there are three photographs on the page. The second
and third are not mine.

But thanks for doing this, the photo's load very fast.

On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 22:38, Peter J. Alling wrote:
> As this is above and beyond the call of duty how could we complain.
> 
> Adelheid v. K. wrote:
> 
> >Hi folks,
> >
> >since der komkon server seems to be down again I decided to put at least the
> >March PUG on my own website.
> >
> >This means:
> >
> >Some links on this page are NOT!!! working.
> >But you have at least a link to Josteins page and you can look at the
> >pictures of March.
> >
> >Since I changed some typos directly on the komkon server the descriptions
> >and other things are not ok on some pages. But the pics should be there.
> >
> >I don't have much space on my site, so only the current month is available!
> >No archives as such.
> >
> >So now the issue of the URL
> >It will change each month at present it is:
> >http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/04mar
> >
> >I will work out something more convenient if the komkon server stays out for
> >good.
> >If you have complaints questions about this site please use the mailing
> >address:
> >
> >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >The address on the page DOESN'T work!!!
> >
> >I hope this helps a little.
> >Please be patient, the server connection is not as good as the one on the
> >komkon server.
> >
> >Cheers
> >Adelheid
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
-- 
Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

ONLY - Pug march is available on my website

[Adelheid v. K.]

Hi folks,

since der komkon server seems to be down again I decided to put at least the
March PUG on my own website.

This means:

Some links on this page are NOT!!! working.
But you have at least a link to Josteins page and you can look at the
pictures of March.

Since I changed some typos directly on the komkon server the descriptions
and other things are not ok on some pages. But the pics should be there.

I don't have much space on my site, so only the current month is available!
No archives as such.

So now the issue of the URL
It will change each month at present it is:
http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/04mar

I will work out something more convenient if the komkon server stays out for
good.
If you have complaints questions about this site please use the mailing
address:

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The address on the page DOESN'T work!!!

I hope this helps a little.
Please be patient, the server connection is not as good as the one on the
komkon server.

Cheers
Adelheid

Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website

[Cotty]

On 27/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>> But when it is on a mailing list sponsered by Pentax, there are
>liability issues
>> involved. On a public list, as the PDML is now, they don't have to
>worry about it.
>>
>> "Our Johnny read, on the Official Pentax Mailing list, how to modify
>his strobe,
>> stuck his fingers in the capacitor bank, and was rushed to the ER in
cardiac
>> arrest. We want 20 million dollars, and our lawyer guarantees we will
get it
>> (for only 1/2)."
>>
>> Hum...? All of a sudden I would not want to be in Doug Brewer's shoes
>.
>
>It's that, plus the danger of Pentax's being sued.  "Our client, Cotty,
>claims that he came up with the idea for this modification/product/process
>before Pentax did, and thus he is owed 50% of all future profits derived
>from it.  Obviously Pentax got the idea from the list."

Scheiße! You mean that doodle I did of my MX with a little TV screen on
it back in 1982 might lead me into a life of opulence and utter decadence??

So no change there then. More room on the Visa please.



Cheers,
  Cotty


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RE: ONLY - PUG January is on my website

[Malcolm Smith]

graywolf  wrote:

> Yes they do.
> 
> But when it is on a mailing list sponsered by Pentax, there 
> are liability issues involved. On a public list, as the PDML 
> is now, they don't have to worry about it.
> 
> "Our Johnny read, on the Official Pentax Mailing list, how to 
> modify his strobe, stuck his fingers in the capacitor bank, 
> and was rushed to the ER in cardiac arrest. We want 20 
> million dollars, and our lawyer guarantees we will get it 
> (for only 1/2)."
> 
> Hum...? All of a sudden I would not want to be in Doug 
> Brewer's shoes .
 
I take your point, but just once I would like a judge to rule on the side of
common sense.

Malcolm

Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website

[Steve Desjardins]

I can do $20 USD

RE: ONLY - PUG January is on my website

[Cotty]

On 26/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>Wouldn't you agree that there is a certain amount of irony in the fact that
>many companies spend a fortune to learn what Pentax had here. Unless, in the
>background they are still there of course
>
>Malcolm - available for sponsorship

Oh, they are still there :-)




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Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website

[Cotty]

On 25/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>AFAIK, they didn't give any. However, my "unofficial" sources tell me it as 
>liability issues. You guys made suggestions (like modifining flashes,
>Cotty ) 
>to users that scared Pentax's lawyers .

LOL. If they saw the K50 1.2 on an EOS body, they'd be jumping off tall
buildings.




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Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website

[graywolf]

AFAIK, they didn't give any. However, my "unofficial" sources tell me it as 
liability issues. You guys made suggestions (like modifining flashes, Cotty ) 
to users that scared Pentax's lawyers .

--

Lon Williamson wrote:
I only know what Doug put on the PDML home page.
Look around a bit there.
I've only known PDML in the capable hands of Doug Brewer. What were the
reasons Pentax gave for discontinuing the list?
Malcolm





--
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http://graywolfphoto.com
"You might as well accept people as they are,
you are not going to be able to change them anyway."

Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website

[Lon Williamson]

Mind emailing me that, Malcom?

Malcolm Smith wrote:
 Lon Williamson  wrote:


I only know what Doug put on the PDML home page.
Look around a bit there.

I've only known PDML in the capable hands of Doug Brewer. What were 
the reasons Pentax gave for discontinuing the list?

Within moments I was e-mailed the definitive posting off list.

Superb!!!

Malcolm

RE: ONLY - PUG January is on my website

[Malcolm Smith]

 Lon Williamson  wrote:

> I only know what Doug put on the PDML home page.
> Look around a bit there.
> 
> > 
> > I've only known PDML in the capable hands of Doug Brewer. What were 
> > the reasons Pentax gave for discontinuing the list?

Within moments I was e-mailed the definitive posting off list.

Superb!!!

Malcolm

Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

For my part, I strongly oppose that the PUG should be a host for 
personal 
galleries. There are already loads of places offering that service 
for free, 
and I don't see why the PDML should take on the effort of providing 
yet 
another.
I think I agree with you, Jostein. PUG is unique and I think that the 
move to come shouldn't spoil this. However, I think of one 
improvement, that we could implement that could probably bridge 
Jostein's opinion and those who want to have personal galleries at 
PUG.

As I remember, old PUG had this feature of looking up a photog by 
name. Then it would display a table where one would have to click 
through all the links of given photog to see his or her pics. What if 
instead, a generated page would be created each time one clicks on, 
let us say, Jostein's name ... This page would contain thumbs of 
all the pics that were submitted by Jostein. Then, at least, if one 
were looking for a particular pic for particular person they wouldn't 
have to do some exhaustive search...

Such page could be called "Jostein's personal gallery at PUG".

I wouldn't go any further however.

Just my cents.

Since I cannot do any such trick myself, I will have to go silent here 
...

Boris

Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website

[Lon Williamson]

I don't think the "user interface" should change one iota.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it, my Daddy always told me.
-Lon

Jostein wrote, in part:

For my part, I strongly oppose that the PUG should be a host for personal 
galleries. There are already loads of places offering that service for free, 
and I don't see why the PDML should take on the effort of providing yet 
another.

The idea of having automated posting and the gallery itself on the same
server is a good one. I'd just like to throw in one note of caution; 
the human quality control we have today is really high-level, thanks to the
commitment of the PUGmeisters, Adelheid now and William Robb before her.
I would hate to see the QC disappear in an automated system.

also,I would be quite happy to contribute to the programming if my skills suits
the platform (the only things I can do is ASP and JavaScript).

Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website

[Lon Williamson]

I only know what Doug put on the PDML home page.
Look around a bit there.
I've only known PDML in the capable hands of Doug Brewer. What were the
reasons Pentax gave for discontinuing the list?
Malcolm

Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website

[Jostein]

Folks,
We have already got many offers for monetary contribution, and one offer to
take over the hosting. You just have to admire the commitment of people on
this list! 

But Alin raises two separate issues in his mail. One is to move the gallery
to another server, the other is to change the solution itself. The 
latter begs discussion. 

For my part, I strongly oppose that the PUG should be a host for personal 
galleries. There are already loads of places offering that service for free, 
and I don't see why the PDML should take on the effort of providing yet 
another.

The idea of having automated posting and the gallery itself on the same
server is a good one. I'd just like to throw in one note of caution; 
the human quality control we have today is really high-level, thanks to the
commitment of the PUGmeisters, Adelheid now and William Robb before her.
I would hate to see the QC disappear in an automated system.

also,I would be quite happy to contribute to the programming if my skills suits
the platform (the only things I can do is ASP and JavaScript).

cheers
Jostein


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RE: ONLY - PUG January is on my website

[Malcolm Smith]

Lon Williamson wrote:

> Yeah, hats off to Adelheid and Jostein.

Certainly!!

> Pentax USA used to host this list.  I understand why they 
> dropped it.

I've only known PDML in the capable hands of Doug Brewer. What were the
reasons Pentax gave for discontinuing the list?

Malcolm

Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website

[Lon Williamson]

Yeah, hats off to Adelheid and Jostein.
Pentax USA used to host this list.  I understand
why they dropped it.  I'm wondering, however, if
they might be willing to host the PUG as long as
no reference to this list exists.  Is that worth
pursuing?
frank theriault wrote:
Well, first of all, Adelheid:

Complaints?  Are you kidding?  Complaints?!?

Sounds to me like you and Jostein are going way above and beyond the 
call of duty trying to sort this stuff out (none of which, obviously 
your fault).

Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website

[Fred]

> Perhaps we could offer komkon a yearly contribution to partly
> repay their generosity and bandwidth.

Excellent idea !!!

Fred

Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website

[Chris Brogden]

I'd be in for that as well.  I think we should wait to hear from komkon
about what happened before we decide anything, but it's nice to know that
there are alternatives.  Perhaps we could offer komkon a yearly
contribution to partly repay their generosity and bandwidth.

chris



On Sun, 25 Jan 2004, John Coyle wrote:

> Count me in - I can pay using PayPal, and  I'm happy to research where we
> can get decent storage space and bandwidth usage.  Can we get an idea how
> much we'd need?
>
> I'd suggest contributions be in US $, as most of us can pay with them via
> credit cards, Paypal etc.
>
> John Coyle
> Brisbane, Australia
> - Original Message -
> From: "Alin Flaider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Adelheid v. K." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 10:17 PM
> Subject: Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website
>
>
> > Adelheid wrote:
> >
> > AvK> I will work out something more convenient if the komkon server stays
> out for
> > AvK> good.
> >
> >   To the PUG team and anybody else interested,
> >
> >   If the komkon (a private non-lucrative initiative) is going down, I
> >   suggest it's time to make our own server. Prices of hosting and
> >   domains are quite accessible and there should be no problem for us
> >   to raise the necessary funds required to keep the site running for
> >   the next couple of years. Not to mention that we might switch at
> >   some time to a dynamic site that automates posting, page generation,
> >   mail confirmation, personal mini-gallery, etc. We have among us
> >   enough programmers perfectly able to contribute.
> >
> >   Any one willing to act on behalf of the community and gather the
> >   money to pay for the registration and hosting of, say,
> >   www.pugallery.org ?
> >
> >   Servus,  Alin
> >
>

Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website

[John Coyle]

Count me in - I can pay using PayPal, and  I'm happy to research where we
can get decent storage space and bandwidth usage.  Can we get an idea how
much we'd need?

I'd suggest contributions be in US $, as most of us can pay with them via
credit cards, Paypal etc.

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
- Original Message - 
From: "Alin Flaider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Adelheid v. K." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website


> Adelheid wrote:
>
> AvK> I will work out something more convenient if the komkon server stays
out for
> AvK> good.
>
>   To the PUG team and anybody else interested,
>
>   If the komkon (a private non-lucrative initiative) is going down, I
>   suggest it's time to make our own server. Prices of hosting and
>   domains are quite accessible and there should be no problem for us
>   to raise the necessary funds required to keep the site running for
>   the next couple of years. Not to mention that we might switch at
>   some time to a dynamic site that automates posting, page generation,
>   mail confirmation, personal mini-gallery, etc. We have among us
>   enough programmers perfectly able to contribute.
>
>   Any one willing to act on behalf of the community and gather the
>   money to pay for the registration and hosting of, say,
>   www.pugallery.org ?
>
>   Servus,  Alin
>

Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website

[Chris Hamilton]

- Original Message - 
From: "Adelheid v. K." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 03:57 PM
Subject: RE: ONLY - PUG January is on my website 


> If I understand this correctly you are willing to be the next PUGmeister?

Sure. Why not?

> I don't think you would give me access to your site, do you?
> 

I'm sure we could work something out.

Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website

[Paul Stenquist]

I am willing to contribute as well.
On Jan 24, 2004, at 2:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi!

AF>   To play it safe we should cover the expenses for the next two 
years
AF>   so this makes 280$. I am willing to contribute with up to $40.

I think I can contribute the similar figure. So count me in.

As for the currency: well - indeed, I can send funds only by means of
PayPal. I hope it is acceptable.
Boris



Pretty sure I could chip in at least
$20.

RE: ONLY - PUG January is on my website

[Adelheid v. K.]

If I understand this correctly you are willing to be the next PUGmeister?
I don't think you would give me access to your site, do you?

Cheers
Adelheid 

-Original Message-
From: Chris Hamilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Samstag, 24. Januar 2004 21:40
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website 

I do, however, reserve the right to ask (*not* require/demand) donations to
help offset the cost of maintaining the site. :-)

- Original Message -
From: "Chris Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 03:36 PM
Subject: Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website


> I can host the site (on a more permanent basis).
>
> I have ~50GB of disk space and 700GB per month with my current hosting
plan.
>
> I could even throw up a web-based forum-type dealie if y'all wanted to
> consider a non-email approach to PDML going forward.

Re: PUG.ORG (was:Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website)

[Steve Larson]

Indeed it does! What would that cost per person about a buck a year?
The only question I have is, has the site been around a while?

Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California


- Original Message - 
From: "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: PUG.ORG (was:Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website)


> > Perhaps www.smugmug.com should be given consideration as a home
> > for pug.  There are several advantages.
> 
> Hey - "pug.smugmug.com".  Kinda rolls off the tongue, eh?  
> 
> Fred
> 
> 
> 

Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website

[Chris Hamilton]

I do, however, reserve the right to ask (*not* require/demand) donations to
help offset the cost of maintaining the site. :-)

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 03:36 PM
Subject: Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website


> I can host the site (on a more permanent basis).
>
> I have ~50GB of disk space and 700GB per month with my current hosting
plan.
>
> I could even throw up a web-based forum-type dealie if y'all wanted to
> consider a non-email approach to PDML going forward.

Re: PUG.ORG (was:Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website)

[John Francis]

I think the first thing we need to do is decide if we
need to do anything :-)

Then, if we *do* decide to move away from komkon, do we
want to just use one of the photo-hosting sites such as
smugmug (which looks good at first inspection), or do we
want something with a little more configurability?

We've got several good graphics artists, web programmers, 
etc., on the list - we could automate PUG submission even
more than we have now, and have CGI scripts to generate
per-photographer galleries as well as per-month views.

The bad news is that sites which let you write your own
CGI scripts referencing back-end databases tend to be a
little more expensive than the simple hosting sites.

But, if we *do* decide to go that way, it's possible that
I may be able to provide that level of access at no charge.
(I could easily do it on my existing personal domain, but
I wouldn't do that without checking with the web hoster; my
web access is a gift from a friend who runs a hosting site).

I'd only ask him, though, if we'd make use of the features to
provide something more than just a simple image hosting site.
And I'd register a new domain name so we could run the PUG as
a true virtual domain.

I doubt if we could afford his market rates - I think his
cheapest rate is around $250/year (and upwards ...). But if
we want all the bells and whistles (including email, mailing
lists, and just about anything else you could think of) then
I'm pretty sure he'd have no problem with me setting up the
site (root access to the main site servers can be useful :-)

Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website

[Chris Hamilton]

I can host the site (on a more permanent basis).

I have ~50GB of disk space and 700GB per month with my current hosting plan.

I could even throw up a web-based forum-type dealie if y'all wanted to
consider a non-email approach to PDML going forward.

-Chris

Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website

[Fred]

> (is Igor still around?)

The only email address I have for Igor (which I've used for PLG
purposes) is a komkon.org address...

Fred

Re: PUG.ORG (was:Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website)

[Fred]

> Perhaps www.smugmug.com should be given consideration as a home
> for pug.  There are several advantages.

Hey - "pug.smugmug.com".  Kinda rolls off the tongue, eh?  

Fred

Re: PUG.ORG (was:Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website)

[George Sinos]

On the topic of a home for PUG

Perhaps www.smugmug.com should be given consideration as a home for 
pug.  There are several advantages.

Storage is unlimited at all subscription levels.

Bandwidth allowances are as follows:

2 gigabytes per month at the standard $29.95 per year level.
4 gigabytes per month at the power user $49.95 per year level.
8+ gigabytes per month at the professional $99.95 per year level.
After a file is uploaded, the smugmug software automatically generates 
thumbnails and several display sizes.  This would allow users to view 
images at the size most appropriate for their bandwidth and monitor size 
with no additional workload placed on the administrator.

Comments and discussion can be enabled for each photo.

Details are in the help section at 

You can see how I've chosen to use this site at 
   Yes, the PUG could have it's own domain name.
These are primarily family snapshots, but check the *istD and OptioS 
galleries for examples of the range of file sizes.  These galleries have 
"originals" enabled so you can see the full size original files.

There are a lot of features I haven't listed.  Click on "help" when you get 
to the smugmug site for details.

Given the low cost, and low maintenance necessary to run the site, I think 
this would be an excellent format for PUG and useful for the list members 
in general.

--

I've posted these links before.  Although I have no connection with SmugMug 
other than that of satisfied customer, I feel obligated to say that putting 
my email address into the "referred by" field when subscribing gives you a 
small discount me a small credit.

See you later, gs

--

Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website

[Mark Cassino]

I'd be willing to kick in towards the total cost as well.  2 gigs of 
bandwidth sounds a bit low to me, though - hopefully someone at Komkon (is 
Igor still around?) can help get some stats on past usage.

- MCC

At 07:25 PM 1/24/2004 +0200, you wrote:

Bob S. wrote:

Rac> Alin or anyone,
Rac> What would the annual cost of something like this be?
  For 800 MB storage and 2 GB bandwidth I expect 10$/month. [2
  GB/month is a rough figure but I really don't think current PUG
  traffic is anywhere close to that; somebody in the PUG team with
  access to komkon logs might provide the real value]. Add to this
  20$/year for the domain name and the annual cost is 140$.
  To play it safe we should cover the expenses for the next two years
  so this makes 280$. I am willing to contribute with up to $40.
  Servus,  Alin
-

Mark Cassino Photography

Kalamazoo, MI

http://www.markcassino.com

-

Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website

[ernreed2]

> Hi!
> 
> AF>   To play it safe we should cover the expenses for the next two years
> AF>   so this makes 280$. I am willing to contribute with up to $40.
> 
> I think I can contribute the similar figure. So count me in.
> 
> As for the currency: well - indeed, I can send funds only by means of
> PayPal. I hope it is acceptable.
> 
> Boris
> 


Pretty sure I could chip in at least
$20.

Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website

[ernreed2]

> Hi folks,
> 
> since der komkon server seems to be down for the unforseeable future I
> decided to put at least the January PUG on my own website.

Thank you,
Adelheid.

Re: PUG.ORG (was:Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website)

[Cotty]

On 24/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>and who would be willing to contribute?

In 1998 I contributed to a new home for the Dome Home list web presence.
I would certainly contribute here. I think back then it was 10 bucks per,
and I think I gave 20 or 30 if memory serves. US dollars is the world
currency (even here in the UK!) so no problem sending a Hamilton or two




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

AF>   To play it safe we should cover the expenses for the next two years
AF>   so this makes 280$. I am willing to contribute with up to $40.

I think I can contribute the similar figure. So count me in.

As for the currency: well - indeed, I can send funds only by means of
PayPal. I hope it is acceptable.

Boris

RE: ONLY - PUG January is on my website

[frank theriault]

Well, first of all, Adelheid:

Complaints?  Are you kidding?  Complaints?!?

Sounds to me like you and Jostein are going way above and beyond the call of 
duty trying to sort this stuff out (none of which, obviously your fault).

I'd say a big huge thanks is in order for your efforts in getting PUG up and 
running again.

I'll buy you a drink at GFM.And, Jostein, too, I guess...

Now, as far as Alin's suggestion of us pooling funds for a PUG site on 
another server (is that the right terminology?  I hope so), I'm all for 
that.  If a one time "donation" of, say $20US from most or many of us can 
keep things going for a couple of years, I'm down for that (as the kids say 
nowadays - or is that phrase now longer "in"?)

Thanks again,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: "Adelheid v. K." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ONLY - PUG January is on my website Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 
12:19:28 +0100

Hi folks,

since der komkon server seems to be down for the unforseeable future I
decided to put at least the January PUG on my own website.
This means:

Some links on this page are NOT!!! working.
But you have at least a link to Josteins page and you can look at the
pictures of January.
Since I changed some typos directly on the komkon server the descriptions
and other things are not ok on some pages. But the pics should be there.
I don't have much space on my site, so only the current month is available!
No archives as such.
So now the issue of the URL
It will change each month at present it is:
http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/04jan
I will work out something more convenient if the komkon server stays out 
for
good.
If you have complaints questions about this site please use the mailing
address:

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The address on the page DOESN'T work!!!

I hope this helps a little.
Please be patient, the server connection is not as good as the one on the
komkon server.
Cheers
Adelheid



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Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website

[Alin Flaider]

Bob S. wrote:

Rac> Alin or anyone,
Rac> What would the annual cost of something like this be?

  For 800 MB storage and 2 GB bandwidth I expect 10$/month. [2
  GB/month is a rough figure but I really don't think current PUG
  traffic is anywhere close to that; somebody in the PUG team with
  access to komkon logs might provide the real value]. Add to this
  20$/year for the domain name and the annual cost is 140$.
  To play it safe we should cover the expenses for the next two years
  so this makes 280$. I am willing to contribute with up to $40.
 
  Servus,  Alin

Re: ONLY - PUG January is on my website

[graywolf]

Where my website is hosted -- http://detailhosting.com/ -- it costs me $5.95 a 
month, but the PUG may need more bandwidth and space than I have (5gig, 250mb), 
so it may cost a bit more than that. In any case web hosting is not as expensive 
as it used to be.

--

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Alin or anyone,
What would the annual cost of something like this be?
Regards,  Bob S.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Adelheid wrote:
AvK> I will work out something more convenient if the komkon server stays out 
for
AvK> good.

  To the PUG team and anybody else interested,
  
  If the komkon (a private non-lucrative initiative) is going down, I
  suggest it's time to make our own server. Prices of hosting and
  domains are quite accessible and there should be no problem for us
  to raise the necessary funds required to keep the site running for
  the next couple of years. Not to mention that we might switch at
  some time to a dynamic site that automates posting, page generation,
  mail confirmation, personal mini-gallery, etc. We have among us
  enough programmers perfectly able to contribute.

  Any one willing to act on behalf of the community and gather the
  money to pay for the registration and hosting of, say,
  www.pugallery.org ?
  Servus,  Alin

  P.S. I came up with the same idea a couple of years ago, hopefully
  this time there's more enthusiastic support with the advent of
  digital in the Pentax world. :oT

--
graywolf
http://graywolfphoto.com
"You might as well accept people as they are,
you are not going to be able to change them anyway."