OT: Epson V500 and oversized-prints question

2013-04-11 Thread Charles Robinson
I just got the Epson V500 scanner as my wife needs to scan some of her parents' 
wedding album for a slideshow.  Nice excuse, and for $149 on Amazon I couldn't 
pass it up.

Peeking at the box right now, I see that the glass scanning surface is indented 
a bit into the scanner.  

The pages that I have to scan from their wedding album are oversized - like an 
8x10 image on a 10x12 board-like page.The pages come out (the whole album 
can be disassembled into a bunch of flat pages - I'll have to remember the page 
sequence so I can reassemble it properly) so that's not an issue.

The problem is: Towards the edge of the image, the photo is actually going to 
be maybe as much as a few millimeters above the surface of the glass.  That's 
going to suck, isn't it?

How deep is the "depth of field" of the scanner?  Am I screwed?

 -Charles

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Re: OT: Epson V500 and oversized-prints question

2013-04-11 Thread Darren Addy
You have two options and, depending upon the album pages you have,
maybe the first one won't work.
The photographs got into the album pages somehow. Usually they just
slide in from one side of the mat. I'd remove the images from the
pages and scan them that way (if I were going to scan them at all).
This complicates your disassembly/reassembly of the album, but it's
doable.

I don't know that I'd use a scanner at all. I think I'd just a digital
camera to make the copies in the first place. The only thing you will
have to worry about it having everything centered and (especially) the
camera back parallel to the print you are photographing. Ideally you
would want it lit from 45 degree angle so you don't get an reflections
back up at the camera lens.

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
> I just got the Epson V500 scanner as my wife needs to scan some of her 
> parents' wedding album for a slideshow.  Nice excuse, and for $149 on Amazon 
> I couldn't pass it up.
>
> Peeking at the box right now, I see that the glass scanning surface is 
> indented a bit into the scanner.
>
> The pages that I have to scan from their wedding album are oversized - like 
> an 8x10 image on a 10x12 board-like page.The pages come out (the whole 
> album can be disassembled into a bunch of flat pages - I'll have to remember 
> the page sequence so I can reassemble it properly) so that's not an issue.
>
> The problem is: Towards the edge of the image, the photo is actually going to 
> be maybe as much as a few millimeters above the surface of the glass.  That's 
> going to suck, isn't it?
>
> How deep is the "depth of field" of the scanner?  Am I screwed?
>
>  -Charles
>
> --
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Re: OT: Epson V500 and oversized-prints question

2013-04-11 Thread Zos Xavius
I use this scanner all the time. the dof extends past the recess. you
are not screwed.

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
> I just got the Epson V500 scanner as my wife needs to scan some of her 
> parents' wedding album for a slideshow.  Nice excuse, and for $149 on Amazon 
> I couldn't pass it up.
>
> Peeking at the box right now, I see that the glass scanning surface is 
> indented a bit into the scanner.
>
> The pages that I have to scan from their wedding album are oversized - like 
> an 8x10 image on a 10x12 board-like page.The pages come out (the whole 
> album can be disassembled into a bunch of flat pages - I'll have to remember 
> the page sequence so I can reassemble it properly) so that's not an issue.
>
> The problem is: Towards the edge of the image, the photo is actually going to 
> be maybe as much as a few millimeters above the surface of the glass.  That's 
> going to suck, isn't it?
>
> How deep is the "depth of field" of the scanner?  Am I screwed?
>
>  -Charles
>
> --
> Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com
> Minneapolis, MN
> http://charles.robinsontwins.org
> http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson
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Re: OT: Epson V500 and oversized-prints question

2013-04-11 Thread Paul Sorenson
Shouldn't have a problem.  This was scanned on a V500 and the original 
mount was oversized.  Any softness in the scan also exists in the original.


BTW, it's a four generation pix taken in 1935.  The young girl is my 
mother, age about 14.   ; >}


https://www.box.com/shared/gx8uuqeg4zot65xgen3v

-p

On 4/11/2013 2:35 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:

I just got the Epson V500 scanner as my wife needs to scan some of her parents' 
wedding album for a slideshow.  Nice excuse, and for $149 on Amazon I couldn't 
pass it up.

Peeking at the box right now, I see that the glass scanning surface is indented 
a bit into the scanner.

The pages that I have to scan from their wedding album are oversized - like an 
8x10 image on a 10x12 board-like page.The pages come out (the whole album 
can be disassembled into a bunch of flat pages - I'll have to remember the page 
sequence so I can reassemble it properly) so that's not an issue.

The problem is: Towards the edge of the image, the photo is actually going to 
be maybe as much as a few millimeters above the surface of the glass.  That's 
going to suck, isn't it?

How deep is the "depth of field" of the scanner?  Am I screwed?

  -Charles

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Re: OT: Epson V500 and oversized-prints question

2013-04-11 Thread Zos Xavius
you can scan anything with this scanner. you can use photomerge in
photoshop to stitch pieces of things together. if you need a flat
plane for some reason, cut a 1/8" piece of plexiglass or glass to
8.5x11 roughly and place it over the scanner's glass. then I just tape
up the sides to give a smooth edge. if you need help, feel free to
e-mail me offlist...

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> You have two options and, depending upon the album pages you have,
> maybe the first one won't work.
> The photographs got into the album pages somehow. Usually they just
> slide in from one side of the mat. I'd remove the images from the
> pages and scan them that way (if I were going to scan them at all).
> This complicates your disassembly/reassembly of the album, but it's
> doable.
>
> I don't know that I'd use a scanner at all. I think I'd just a digital
> camera to make the copies in the first place. The only thing you will
> have to worry about it having everything centered and (especially) the
> camera back parallel to the print you are photographing. Ideally you
> would want it lit from 45 degree angle so you don't get an reflections
> back up at the camera lens.
>
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
>> I just got the Epson V500 scanner as my wife needs to scan some of her 
>> parents' wedding album for a slideshow.  Nice excuse, and for $149 on Amazon 
>> I couldn't pass it up.
>>
>> Peeking at the box right now, I see that the glass scanning surface is 
>> indented a bit into the scanner.
>>
>> The pages that I have to scan from their wedding album are oversized - like 
>> an 8x10 image on a 10x12 board-like page.The pages come out (the whole 
>> album can be disassembled into a bunch of flat pages - I'll have to remember 
>> the page sequence so I can reassemble it properly) so that's not an issue.
>>
>> The problem is: Towards the edge of the image, the photo is actually going 
>> to be maybe as much as a few millimeters above the surface of the glass.  
>> That's going to suck, isn't it?
>>
>> How deep is the "depth of field" of the scanner?  Am I screwed?
>>
>>  -Charles
>>
>> --
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>> Minneapolis, MN
>> http://charles.robinsontwins.org
>> http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson
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Re: OT: Epson V500 and oversized-prints question

2013-04-11 Thread kwaller

I think I'd just a digital camera to make the copies in the first place.


I agree. Once you have the proper lens, distance to print to fill the frame 
& the camera body square to the print its a simple matter to copy, just 
remember to keep the picture flat.


I've had very good results with my K20D. I've used various lenses depending 
on the material to be copied.



Kenneth Waller
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From: "Darren Addy" 

Subject: Re: OT: Epson V500 and oversized-prints question



You have two options and, depending upon the album pages you have,
maybe the first one won't work.
The photographs got into the album pages somehow. Usually they just
slide in from one side of the mat. I'd remove the images from the
pages and scan them that way (if I were going to scan them at all).
This complicates your disassembly/reassembly of the album, but it's
doable.

I don't know that I'd use a scanner at all. I think I'd just a digital
camera to make the copies in the first place. The only thing you will
have to worry about it having everything centered and (especially) the
camera back parallel to the print you are photographing. Ideally you
would want it lit from 45 degree angle so you don't get an reflections
back up at the camera lens.

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Charles Robinson  
wrote:
I just got the Epson V500 scanner as my wife needs to scan some of her 
parents' wedding album for a slideshow.  Nice excuse, and for $149 on 
Amazon I couldn't pass it up.


Peeking at the box right now, I see that the glass scanning surface is 
indented a bit into the scanner.


The pages that I have to scan from their wedding album are oversized - 
like an 8x10 image on a 10x12 board-like page.The pages come out (the 
whole album can be disassembled into a bunch of flat pages - I'll have to 
remember the page sequence so I can reassemble it properly) so that's not 
an issue.


The problem is: Towards the edge of the image, the photo is actually 
going to be maybe as much as a few millimeters above the surface of the 
glass.  That's going to suck, isn't it?


How deep is the "depth of field" of the scanner?  Am I screwed?

 -Charles

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Re: OT: Epson V500 and oversized-prints question

2013-04-11 Thread Charles Robinson
On Apr 11, 2013, at 14:55 ,  wrote:

>> I think I'd just a digital camera to make the copies in the first place.
> 
> I agree. Once you have the proper lens, distance to print to fill the frame & 
> the camera body square to the print its a simple matter to copy, just 
> remember to keep the picture flat.
> 

Do you guys REALLY think I want to tell my wife: "Never mind, we don't need 
this scanner, let's return it"?

I was thinking, though, that the K5 with a pair of 45-degree-mounted flashes 
wirelessly-triggered could make a quick 'n' simple copy.  I'll do some 
experiments when I get home.  

I just need to block the on-camera flash so that doesn't reflect off of the 
surface of the print!

 -Charles

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Re: OT: Epson V500 and oversized-prints question

2013-04-11 Thread Bob Sullivan
Charles,
Find a south facing window.
Set the picture on a stand, chair, etc. at right angles to the window.
(picture side lit by the window to cut reflections)
Set-up the camera on a tripod.
Angle the picture up and the camera down so picture and camera back
are parallel.
If the light is too uneven, get a white reflector for the other side
of the photo.
If the picture is a bit curly, add a piece of glass in front. (from a
picture frame?)
I did lots of these with the PZ-1, an A100/2.8 macro, and Ectachrome.
Regards,  Bob S.



On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
> On Apr 11, 2013, at 14:55 ,  wrote:
>
>>> I think I'd just a digital camera to make the copies in the first place.
>>
>> I agree. Once you have the proper lens, distance to print to fill the frame 
>> & the camera body square to the print its a simple matter to copy, just 
>> remember to keep the picture flat.
>>
>
> Do you guys REALLY think I want to tell my wife: "Never mind, we don't need 
> this scanner, let's return it"?
>
> I was thinking, though, that the K5 with a pair of 45-degree-mounted flashes 
> wirelessly-triggered could make a quick 'n' simple copy.  I'll do some 
> experiments when I get home.
>
> I just need to block the on-camera flash so that doesn't reflect off of the 
> surface of the print!
>
>  -Charles
>
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Re: OT: Epson V500 and oversized-prints question

2013-04-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
I've scanned large photos on the V500 and other scanners. I just bend them a 
bit and put a shim on the side that's up on the edge, so it lays flat against 
the glass when I push the cover down against it. Then I scan both sides of the 
image and comp it together. It just takes minutes, and the results are much 
better than you can achieve shooting with a camera sans copy stand.

Paul
On Apr 11, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Charles Robinson  wrote:

> I just got the Epson V500 scanner as my wife needs to scan some of her 
> parents' wedding album for a slideshow.  Nice excuse, and for $149 on Amazon 
> I couldn't pass it up.
> 
> Peeking at the box right now, I see that the glass scanning surface is 
> indented a bit into the scanner.  
> 
> The pages that I have to scan from their wedding album are oversized - like 
> an 8x10 image on a 10x12 board-like page.The pages come out (the whole 
> album can be disassembled into a bunch of flat pages - I'll have to remember 
> the page sequence so I can reassemble it properly) so that's not an issue.
> 
> The problem is: Towards the edge of the image, the photo is actually going to 
> be maybe as much as a few millimeters above the surface of the glass.  That's 
> going to suck, isn't it?
> 
> How deep is the "depth of field" of the scanner?  Am I screwed?
> 
> -Charles
> 
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Re: OT: Epson V500 and oversized-prints question

2013-04-11 Thread Charles Robinson
On Apr 11, 2013, at 16:05 , Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> I've scanned large photos on the V500 and other scanners. I just bend them a 
> bit and put a shim on the side that's up on the edge, so it lays flat against 
> the glass when I push the cover down against it. Then I scan both sides of 
> the image and comp it together. It just takes minutes, and the results are 
> much better than you can achieve shooting with a camera sans copy stand.
> 

The image area is small enough for the glass.

The hard board page it's attached to is not.

So.. it's "small enough" to be scanned in a single pass without stitching, as 
long as being held up above the glass on all sides doesn't eff up the 
focus/clarity/etc.

Thanks, all, for the suggestions.  Going home soon and will try it out when I 
get there!

 -Charles

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