Re: OT: External HD's and two OS's
Mark Roberts wrote: Carlos Royo wrote: Windows XP won't let you format a partition in the FAT32 system if it is bigger than 32 GB. But you can do it (I mean, formatting FAT32 bigger partitions) using third party utilities You can do it with DOS! You are right, Mark. You can, as long as it is the DOS that comes with Windows 98/SE/ME, but not with previous versions. Carlos
Re: Re: OT: External HD's and two OS's
Fra: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dato: 2006/05/18 Thu AM 02:56:07 CEST Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: OT: External HD's and two OS's Carlos Royo wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On May 16, 2006, at 1:43 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: You can get what you want, but you need to set the drive up for it. Windows XP limits the size of a FAT32 drive to 32Gbytes when formatting, they want you to use NTFS. I have a 250 gig drive formatted FAT32 in Windows. Might be a version thing. Last time I went to do this, Win XPP *would not* allow me to create a volume greater than 32Mbytes with its supplied utilities. Windows XP won't let you format a partition in the FAT32 system if it is bigger than 32 GB. But you can do it (I mean, formatting FAT32 bigger partitions) using third party utilities, such as Partition Magic and others, and the resulting partition will be read and written by XP or Windows 2000 and other operating system without any problems. Carlos OS X will also do it. Format in MS-DOS mode and it will do a FAT32 partition. I did that with my external HD, and it worked fine except for some problems with characters in some file names that wasn't compatible with the MS system. Now that I only use the disc for backup I've formated it with OSX file system. For transporting files between PC and Mac I'm considering something like this: http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10655 DagT
Re: Re: OT: External HD's and two OS's
I did that with my external HD, and it worked fine except for some problems with characters in some file names that wasn't compatible with the MS system. Now that I only use the disc for backup I've formated it with OSX file system. For transporting files between PC and Mac I'm considering something like this: http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10655 DagT Hu. Interesting piece of hardware. I'll look into this. Thanks for the link. Dave Brooks
Re: OT: External HD's and two OS's
Carlos Royo wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Carlos Royo wrote: Windows XP won't let you format a partition in the FAT32 system if it is bigger than 32 GB. But you can do it (I mean, formatting FAT32 bigger partitions) using third party utilities You can do it with DOS! You are right, Mark. You can, as long as it is the DOS that comes with Windows 98/SE/ME, but not with previous versions. Just a note: Wouldn't You can do it with DOS make a nifty t-shirt/bumper sticker slogan? ;-) (I always partition and format my disks from a command line interface: GUI's are for wimps!
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On May 18, 2006, at 8:00 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Just a note: Wouldn't You can do it with DOS make a nifty t-shirt/bumper sticker slogan? ;-) Send it to Unamerican.com -- I'm sure they'd print that. I ordered a large batch of their ASSUME THIS PHONE IS TAPPED stickers a few years ago and put 'em on all the phones in the house. -Aaron
Re: OT: External HD's and two OS's
On May 18, 2006, at 5:00 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: I always partition and format my disks from a command line interface: GUI's are for wimps! Formatting a 120G drive in FAT32 from DOS under WinME took nearly 12 hours. Formatting the same drive in FAT32 on Mac OS X took 40 minutes. I'll take the GUI any time. :-) Godfrey
Re: OT: External HD's and two OS's
I use partition magic and it does the job in a jiffy. I set up a 300 gbyte drive a couple of months ago (three partitions) in about an hour and I went back to make changes a couple of times as well. Don Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On May 18, 2006, at 5:00 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: I always partition and format my disks from a command line interface: GUI's are for wimps! Formatting a 120G drive in FAT32 from DOS under WinME took nearly 12 hours. Formatting the same drive in FAT32 on Mac OS X took 40 minutes. I'll take the GUI any time. :-) Godfrey --No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.0/342 - Release Date: 17.5.2006 -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616
Re: OT: External HD's and two OS's
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On May 18, 2006, at 5:00 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: I always partition and format my disks from a command line interface: GUI's are for wimps! Formatting a 120G drive in FAT32 from DOS under WinME took nearly 12 hours. Formatting the same drive in FAT32 on Mac OS X took 40 minutes. I'll take the GUI any time. :-) 12 hours? I can't believe that lack of a GUI was responsible for that! I formatted my 250 gig drive under DOS 7 (Win98) and it took about an hour. I'd guess hardware was the issue. *Something* besides the OS, anyway.
Re: OT: External HD's and two OS's
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On May 16, 2006, at 1:43 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: You can get what you want, but you need to set the drive up for it. Windows XP limits the size of a FAT32 drive to 32Gbytes when formatting, they want you to use NTFS. I have a 250 gig drive formatted FAT32 in Windows. Might be a version thing. Last time I went to do this, Win XPP *would not* allow me to create a volume greater than 32Mbytes with its supplied utilities. That's weird. It supports FAT32 volumes up to 130 gig without doing anything special. For larger volumes you just have to enable 48-bit LBA, which is simple to do - and I would have expected that most computers would be set up than way by default now, given typical hard drive sizes.
Re: OT: External HD's and two OS's
Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On May 16, 2006, at 1:43 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: You can get what you want, but you need to set the drive up for it. Windows XP limits the size of a FAT32 drive to 32Gbytes when formatting, they want you to use NTFS. I have a 250 gig drive formatted FAT32 in Windows. Might be a version thing. Last time I went to do this, Win XPP *would not* allow me to create a volume greater than 32Mbytes with its supplied utilities. Windows XP won't let you format a partition in the FAT32 system if it is bigger than 32 GB. But you can do it (I mean, formatting FAT32 bigger partitions) using third party utilities, such as Partition Magic and others, and the resulting partition will be read and written by XP or Windows 2000 and other operating system without any problems. Carlos
Re: OT: External HD's and two OS's
Carlos Royo wrote: Windows XP won't let you format a partition in the FAT32 system if it is bigger than 32 GB. But you can do it (I mean, formatting FAT32 bigger partitions) using third party utilities You can do it with DOS!
Re: OT: External HD's and two OS's
Carlos Royo wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On May 16, 2006, at 1:43 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: You can get what you want, but you need to set the drive up for it. Windows XP limits the size of a FAT32 drive to 32Gbytes when formatting, they want you to use NTFS. I have a 250 gig drive formatted FAT32 in Windows. Might be a version thing. Last time I went to do this, Win XPP *would not* allow me to create a volume greater than 32Mbytes with its supplied utilities. Windows XP won't let you format a partition in the FAT32 system if it is bigger than 32 GB. But you can do it (I mean, formatting FAT32 bigger partitions) using third party utilities, such as Partition Magic and others, and the resulting partition will be read and written by XP or Windows 2000 and other operating system without any problems. Carlos OS X will also do it. Format in MS-DOS mode and it will do a FAT32 partition. -Adamm
OT: External HD's and two OS's
Hi folks. I currently back up my pictures via CD or DVD and also on to a 120 Gig Maxtor HD, external. If coming from the Mac, i just copy the CD/DVD data on to the maxtor on the PC. I was thinking of just moving the maxtor back and fort between the PC and the Mac, but this one time, i actually read the manual and from what i gather, cannot be done. With the PC i just pluged it in and away i went. If i read the manual correctly, if i connect it to the Mac, it will format the disk to the Mac and i will lose all my data. Dont want that.:-) Has anyone done this successfully or is the book correct. Just thinking of having to not turn the pc on and just move the external btn computers, but is looks like i'm snookered here. Dave
Re: OT: External HD's and two OS's
You can get what you want, but you need to set the drive up for it. Windows XP limits the size of a FAT32 drive to 32Gbytes when formatting, they want you to use NTFS. Unfortunately, NTFS is read- only from Mac OS X ... you can connect it and read data from it, but it will not be writable. However Windows XP will read/write a larger FAT32 volume that is already formatted. Mac OS X's native file system format is not readable by Windows. Mac OS X can read/write FAT32 format volumes. So must format the drive to FAT32 file system with Mac OS X The way to do it is to have the data backed up elsewhere and attach the 120G Maxtor HD to the iBook. Use Disk Utility on Mac OS X, choose the disk to Erase disk using one of the MSDOS file system options. (There are details in the Disk Utility' online Help.) It is then a completely read/write capable drive for both Mac OS X and Windows, modulo whatever differences in filename restrictions might exist between Mac OS X and Windows XP. Godfrey On May 16, 2006, at 3:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks. I currently back up my pictures via CD or DVD and also on to a 120 Gig Maxtor HD, external. If coming from the Mac, i just copy the CD/DVD data on to the maxtor on the PC. I was thinking of just moving the maxtor back and fort between the PC and the Mac, but this one time, i actually read the manual and from what i gather, cannot be done. With the PC i just pluged it in and away i went. If i read the manual correctly, if i connect it to the Mac, it will format the disk to the Mac and i will lose all my data. Dont want that.:-) Has anyone done this successfully or is the book correct. Just thinking of having to not turn the pc on and just move the external btn computers, but is looks like i'm snookered here. Dave
Re: OT: External HD's and two OS's
Just thinking of having to not turn the pc on and just move the external btn computers, but is looks like i'm snookered here. Dave No, the mac won't erase anything. If it cannot read the disk for some reason, it'll first ask you if you want to format it. The mac can read/write FAT/FAT32 and read NTFS, transparently to the user, so you should be fine. I move disks between mac and pc's all the time, no problems. (I'm assuming you're running some variant of osx here) -Ryan
Re: OT: External HD's and two OS's
Dave, I have an external HD formatted for NTFS (my work backup drive). My Mac G5 at home will read the files, but will not write files to it. So, I use a flash key to transfer images. Rick --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks. I currently back up my pictures via CD or DVD and also on to a 120 Gig Maxtor HD, external. If coming from the Mac, i just copy the CD/DVD data on to the maxtor on the PC. I was thinking of just moving the maxtor back and fort between the PC and the Mac, but this one time, i actually read the manual and from what i gather, cannot be done. With the PC i just pluged it in and away i went. If i read the manual correctly, if i connect it to the Mac, it will format the disk to the Mac and i will lose all my data. Dont want that.:-) Has anyone done this successfully or is the book correct. Just thinking of having to not turn the pc on and just move the external btn computers, but is looks like i'm snookered here. Dave http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: OT: External HD's and two OS's
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: You can get what you want, but you need to set the drive up for it. Windows XP limits the size of a FAT32 drive to 32Gbytes when formatting, they want you to use NTFS. I have a 250 gig drive formatted FAT32 in Windows.
Re: OT: External HD's and two OS's
On May 16, 2006, at 1:43 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: You can get what you want, but you need to set the drive up for it. Windows XP limits the size of a FAT32 drive to 32Gbytes when formatting, they want you to use NTFS. I have a 250 gig drive formatted FAT32 in Windows. Might be a version thing. Last time I went to do this, Win XPP *would not* allow me to create a volume greater than 32Mbytes with its supplied utilities. Third party utilities would but I didn't have any to work with. That was about three years ago or more, and I don't use Winders myself, so I don't know what the current capabilities are. I know Mac OS X will format FAT32 partitions up to at least a 250G drive's capacity. Godfrey
