Re: OT: GUI ugliness (no longer about 4gb microdrives)

2004-03-06 Thread Keith Whaley
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David Mann wrote:

On Mar 5, 2004, at 23:41, Keith WHALEY wrote:

What effect would I be looking for by "turn magnification off?"
All I want to do is stop that stupid bouncy icon business...


Oh yeah, the bouncing... actually I don't think that can be 
deactivated as its meant to tell you that the program in question 
requires attention.  I must admit to being not-too-fond of that 
myself.  Its a bit too easy for an application to misuse, as in your 
case.

Actually I just had a thought.  You mentioned that you're using a G4. 
Depending on how old it is, your graphics card might not be supported 
by Quartz Extreme which itself may be necessary for the 
magnification.  Quartz Extreme loads a lot of the eye-candy 
calculating off to the graphics card so it doesn't burden the main CPU. 
Actually, my G4 is one of the latest versions.
I have the AGP 4x - ATI  RADEON 9000 PRO graphics controller. (Apple 
capitalized it, so also did I. . .)

As for what to look for, its easy enough to show you.  With 
magnification disabled, it doesn't do this:

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/temp/grab.jpg (1600x1200, 112kb)

Notice the mouse pointer over the Safari icon.  As you move the mouse 
the magnification "rolls" along the dock to follow it.  When you move 
the mouse off the dock, the icons all shrink back to their normal size 
and the dock's width reduces a little.  You can also see the 
magnification option in my Dock preferences there.  I normally have it 
set at about 3/4; I used the maximum setting to make it a little more 
obvious. 
Aha! I just got it setup on my dock. With a 17" screen I find hiding the 
dock and moving the cursor over to it works just fine for me. Never knew 
what the magnification meant. Good idea for these old eyes!

Making the Dock smaller is immaterial. I'll still see it!
I have availed myself of the hide the dock option, as that moves the
Dock off-screen, and keeps the entire Dock out of my visual field except
for when some icon thinks it needs attention!


I tried auto-hiding the dock but getting it back on-screen is
a little more difficult with a tablet.  On my "graphics" login I just 
keep it hidden and summon it up with the "deactivate auto hide" key.  
For my day-to-day login I leave the dock exposed.

I'm guessing I'll have to wait until I decide to download Panther. .
.see what that does.


Trouble with Panther is you can't download it... and there's so much 
new stuff that there's no "upgrade" price :(  For me it was worth it: 
Xcode, X11 support, Fast User Switching and Exposé... and I quite like 
the revised Finder. 


I understand. However, until I get used to Jaguar, I think I'll stick 
with it for a while.
For the more recent part of my Mac life (beginning in '86) I've been 
operating with OS 8.6 or below, and it's only in the last 4 months or so 
I even went to 9.2.1!
I've heard of little problems with Panther, and I'll wait a bit, see if 
the 10.3.x versions work out all the little niggly glitches. . .

Cheers,

- Dave

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Thanks for your help. . .

keith whaley








Re: OT: GUI ugliness (no longer about 4gb microdrives)

2004-03-05 Thread Keith WHALEY


David Mann wrote:
> 
> On Mar 5, 2004, at 01:47, Keith WHALEY wrote:
> 
> >> FACT:
> >> Just like the new XP interface, the Dock animation can be turned off.

> > On a Mac G4 running OS 10.2.6, the Dock's icon animation can be turned
> > off?
> > How?

> Hmm, I wonder if turning it off is a new feature of Panther as I didn't
> keep 10.2.7 for long enough to fiddle much.

Now that could be. All I have to go by is the Jaguar issue of OSX.
I'm having to learn OSX totally from scratch as it is, and don't think
moving up to Panther is particularly wise at this point. 
 
> I can either use the Dock preferences (as mentioned by Cotty), or go to
> the Apple menu and you'll see a Dock submenu... with a "turn
> magnification off" option.

What effect would I be looking for by "turn magnification off?"
All I want to do is stop that stupid bouncy icon business...
Making the Dock smaller is immaterial. I'll still see it!
I have availed myself of the hide the dock option, as that moves the
Dock off-screen, and keeps the entire Dock out of my visual field except
for when some icon thinks it needs attention!

I'm guessing I'll have to wait until I decide to download Panther. .
.see what that does.

Thanks for the help. . .  keith whaley
 
> In my dock preferences I can also change the amount of magnification.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> - Dave
> 
> http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/



Re: OT: GUI ugliness (no longer about 4gb microdrives)

2004-03-04 Thread David Mann
On Mar 5, 2004, at 01:47, Keith WHALEY wrote:

FACT:
Just like the new XP interface, the Dock animation can be turned off.
On a Mac G4 running OS 10.2.6, the Dock's icon animation can be turned 
off?
How?
Hmm, I wonder if turning it off is a new feature of Panther as I didn't 
keep 10.2.7 for long enough to fiddle much.

I can either use the Dock preferences (as mentioned by Cotty), or go to 
the Apple menu and you'll see a Dock submenu... with a "turn 
magnification off" option.

In my dock preferences I can also change the amount of magnification.

Cheers,

- Dave

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/



Re: OT: GUI ugliness (no longer about 4gb microdrives)

2004-03-04 Thread Keith WHALEY


Cotty wrote:
> 
> >On a Mac G4 running OS 10.2.6, the Dock's icon animation can be turned off?
> >How?
> >
> >keith whaley
> 
> Dock Preferences Keith.
> 
> Cheers,
>   Cotty


Sorry, Cot, ol' man. . .not so. Not on MY computer!

In Dock Preferences, I have, in order:

Dock size -Small to Large
Magnification  -  Min. to Max.
Position on Screen  _ Lt., Bottom, Right.
Minimize using:  Scale Effect or Genie Effect
Animate opening appllications
Automatically hide and show dock.

That's ALL I have. Nothing at all about disabling that bouncing Terrier!

Any other thoughts?

keith



Re: OT: GUI ugliness (no longer about 4gb microdrives)

2004-03-04 Thread Cotty


>On a Mac G4 running OS 10.2.6, the Dock's icon animation can be turned off?
>How?
>
>keith whaley

Dock Preferences Keith.


Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: OT: GUI ugliness (no longer about 4gb microdrives)

2004-03-04 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl
Dock animation is nothing more than
a waste of good CPU cycles.
Things like this force you to upgrade to a
faster processor because the CPU has to
waste its time doing foolish things.
Like that stupid paper clip in Word.
Yuk.
2c on a bad day,

Collin
:)


Re: OT: GUI ugliness (no longer about 4gb microdrives)

2004-03-03 Thread David Mann
On Mar 4, 2004, at 07:24, John Francis wrote:

I think the TeleTubbies interface epithet belongs to the Mac.
Those animated toolbar icons are *far* cheesier than anything from XP.
FACT:
Just like the new XP interface, the Dock animation can be turned off.
OPINION:
I thought "Teletubbies" of XP as well, mainly due to the huge default 
titlebar buttons and the highly saturated colour scheme.  It looks. 
well cheap.  We switched the scheme to "classic" pretty quickly.

FWIW I left my Dock animation on.  Yeah I'm a sucker for good 
eye-candy... but I do consider it the icing on the cake.  Quartz 
Extreme is very very nice, and Apple are taking good advantage of it.

Cheers,

- Dave

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/



Re: OT: GUI ugliness (no longer about 4gb microdrives)

2004-03-03 Thread Bob W
Hi,

> I think the TeleTubbies interface epithet belongs to the Mac.
> Those animated toolbar icons are *far* cheesier than anything from XP.

I cannot get over the XP search interface which has a stupid animated
dog scratching the ground. This is in an interface labelled
'Professional'.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob