Re: OT: Iconic Images
On Oct 29, 2012, at 10:17 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Trang Bang Napalm Attack has been censored. I noticed that. I thought it a bit stupid for them to do so considering the burning monk photo next to it. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Iconic Images
That is a valid point Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 6:23 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Iconic pictures of the WORLD, rather than iconic images of photography. From: knarftheriault These things are fun if for no other reason than that they stimulate discussion and controversy about images missed and ones that shouldn't be there. That being said I have to admit, many of the images would have made my short-list. But oh dear, not a single HCB? St. Ansel? Steichen? Maybe copyright issues? What surprises me most is that I see no attribution whatsoever. Is that because I'm looking at a mobile version on my Android? Interesting stuff. Thanks for posting. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Sent: October 27, 2012 10/27/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: Iconic Images http://themetapicture.com/iconic-pictures-of-the-world/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Iconic Images
While they are iconic pictures of the world and world events they are also iconic images of photography and specific photographers. and should each have mentioned the photographer, even if they were owned by news services for whom the photographers were working for at the time. Some of these are from Magnum and some from Black Star (I think) - they always credit the photographs.. The Migrant Mother is Walker Evans I think the Yalta photo IS HCB but maybe I'm wrong. The sailor kissing the nurse is Eisenstaedt etc.. I've known some others in the past and forget now. You would never see a set of iconic paintings shown without the name of the artist, would you? ann On 10/28/2012 09:21, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: That is a valid point Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 6:23 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Iconic pictures of the WORLD, rather than iconic images of photography. From: knarftheriault These things are fun if for no other reason than that they stimulate discussion and controversy about images missed and ones that shouldn't be there. That being said I have to admit, many of the images would have made my short-list. But oh dear, not a single HCB? St. Ansel? Steichen? Maybe copyright issues? What surprises me most is that I see no attribution whatsoever. Is that because I'm looking at a mobile version on my Android? Interesting stuff. Thanks for posting. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Sent: October 27, 2012 10/27/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: Iconic Images http://themetapicture.com/iconic-pictures-of-the-world/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Iconic Images
Double check the Migrant Mother - I think that was Dorothea Lange. Same group of photographers - pix for the FSA. -p On 10/28/2012 10:34 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: While they are iconic pictures of the world and world events they are also iconic images of photography and specific photographers. and should each have mentioned the photographer, even if they were owned by news services for whom the photographers were working for at the time. Some of these are from Magnum and some from Black Star (I think) - they always credit the photographs.. The Migrant Mother is Walker Evans I think the Yalta photo IS HCB but maybe I'm wrong. The sailor kissing the nurse is Eisenstaedt etc.. I've known some others in the past and forget now. You would never see a set of iconic paintings shown without the name of the artist, would you? ann On 10/28/2012 09:21, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: That is a valid point Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 6:23 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Iconic pictures of the WORLD, rather than iconic images of photography. From: knarftheriault These things are fun if for no other reason than that they stimulate discussion and controversy about images missed and ones that shouldn't be there. That being said I have to admit, many of the images would have made my short-list. But oh dear, not a single HCB? St. Ansel? Steichen? Maybe copyright issues? What surprises me most is that I see no attribution whatsoever. Is that because I'm looking at a mobile version on my Android? Interesting stuff. Thanks for posting. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Sent: October 27, 2012 10/27/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: Iconic Images http://themetapicture.com/iconic-pictures-of-the-world/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Iconic Images
Understood. My Iconic pictures of the WORLD response was to Frank's not a single HCB? St. Ansel? Steichen? - history represented by photographs; not a history of photography. As such, they should have been chronological and they should have been attributed. Migrant Mother is by Dorothea Lange. Trang Bang Napalm Attack has been censored. From: Ann Sanfedele While they are iconic pictures of the world and world events they are also iconic images of photography and specific photographers. and should each have mentioned the photographer, even if they were owned by news services for whom the photographers were working for at the time. Some of these are from Magnum and some from Black Star (I think) - they always credit the photographs.. The Migrant Mother is Walker Evans I think the Yalta photo IS HCB but maybe I'm wrong. The sailor kissing the nurse is Eisenstaedt etc.. I've known some others in the past and forget now. You would never see a set of iconic paintings shown without the name of the artist, would you? ann On 10/28/2012 09:21, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: That is a valid point Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 6:23 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Iconic pictures of the WORLD, rather than iconic images of photography. From: knarftheriault These things are fun if for no other reason than that they stimulate discussion and controversy about images missed and ones that shouldn't be there. That being said I have to admit, many of the images would have made my short-list. But oh dear, not a single HCB? St. Ansel? Steichen? Maybe copyright issues? What surprises me most is that I see no attribution whatsoever. Is that because I'm looking at a mobile version on my Android? Interesting stuff. Thanks for posting. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Sent: October 27, 2012 10/27/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: Iconic Images http://themetapicture.com/iconic-pictures-of-the-world/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Iconic Images
Point taken, John, but if I emphasize PICTURES instead of world... ;-) Besides, the WORLD includes nature, landscapes, cityscapes. Those things seem under-represented in this group. That being said I agree with many of the choices they made. What irks me most is the lack of attribution. That is inexcusable especially for a photography site. Good call on the blurring of Kim Phuc's genitals. Another inexcusable action on their part; her complete and utter nakedness is an essential part of the photo imho. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com Sent: October 28, 2012 10/28/12 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Iconic Images Understood. My Iconic pictures of the WORLD response was to Frank's not a single HCB? St. Ansel? Steichen? - history represented by photographs; not a history of photography. As such, they should have been chronological and they should have been attributed. Migrant Mother is by Dorothea Lange. Trang Bang Napalm Attack has been censored. From: Ann Sanfedele While they are iconic pictures of the world and world events they are also iconic images of photography and specific photographers. and should each have mentioned the photographer, even if they were owned by news services for whom the photographers were working for at the time. Some of these are from Magnum and some from Black Star (I think) - they always credit the photographs.. The Migrant Mother is Walker Evans I think the Yalta photo IS HCB but maybe I'm wrong. The sailor kissing the nurse is Eisenstaedt etc.. I've known some others in the past and forget now. You would never see a set of iconic paintings shown without the name of the artist, would you? ann On 10/28/2012 09:21, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: That is a valid point Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 6:23 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Iconic pictures of the WORLD, rather than iconic images of photography. From: knarftheriault These things are fun if for no other reason than that they stimulate discussion and controversy about images missed and ones that shouldn't be there. That being said I have to admit, many of the images would have made my short-list. But oh dear, not a single HCB? St. Ansel? Steichen? Maybe copyright issues? What surprises me most is that I see no attribution whatsoever. Is that because I'm looking at a mobile version on my Android? Interesting stuff. Thanks for posting. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Sent: October 27, 2012 10/27/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: Iconic Images http://themetapicture.com/iconic-pictures-of-the-world/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: Iconic Images
These things are fun if for no other reason than that they stimulate discussion and controversy about images missed and ones that shouldn't be there. That being said I have to admit, many of the images would have made my short-list. But oh dear, not a single HCB? St. Ansel? Steichen? Maybe copyright issues? What surprises me most is that I see no attribution whatsoever. Is that because I'm looking at a mobile version on my Android? Interesting stuff. Thanks for posting. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Sent: October 27, 2012 10/27/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: Iconic Images http://themetapicture.com/iconic-pictures-of-the-world/ Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: Iconic Images
Iconic pictures of the WORLD, rather than iconic images of photography. From: knarftheriault These things are fun if for no other reason than that they stimulate discussion and controversy about images missed and ones that shouldn't be there. That being said I have to admit, many of the images would have made my short-list. But oh dear, not a single HCB? St. Ansel? Steichen? Maybe copyright issues? What surprises me most is that I see no attribution whatsoever. Is that because I'm looking at a mobile version on my Android? Interesting stuff. Thanks for posting. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Sent: October 27, 2012 10/27/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: Iconic Images http://themetapicture.com/iconic-pictures-of-the-world/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.