Re: OT: Iconic Images

2012-10-29 Thread David Mann
On Oct 29, 2012, at 10:17 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Trang Bang Napalm Attack has been censored.

I noticed that.  I thought it a bit stupid for them to do so considering the 
burning monk photo next to it.

Dave


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Re: OT: Iconic Images

2012-10-28 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is a valid point
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On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 6:23 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Iconic pictures of the WORLD, rather than iconic images of photography.

 From: knarftheriault


 These things are fun if for no other reason than that they stimulate
 discussion and controversy about images missed and ones that
 shouldn't be there.

 That being said I have to admit, many of the images would have made
 my short-list. But oh dear, not a single HCB? St. Ansel? Steichen?
 Maybe copyright issues?

 What surprises me most is that I see no attribution whatsoever. Is
 that because I'm looking at a mobile version on my Android?

 Interesting stuff. Thanks for posting.

 Cheers,
 frank

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Re: OT: Iconic Images

2012-10-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele

While they are iconic pictures of the world and world events they are
also iconic images of photography and specific photographers.
and should each have mentioned the photographer, even if they were owned 
by news services for whom the photographers were working for at the time.


Some of these are from Magnum and some from Black Star (I think) - they 
always credit the photographs..


The Migrant Mother is Walker Evans
I think the Yalta photo IS HCB but maybe I'm wrong.
The sailor kissing the nurse is Eisenstaedt
etc.. I've known some others in the past and forget now.

You would never see a set of iconic paintings shown without
the name of the artist, would you?

ann


On 10/28/2012 09:21, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

That is a valid point
Dan Matyola
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On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 6:23 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Iconic pictures of the WORLD, rather than iconic images of photography.

From: knarftheriault



These things are fun if for no other reason than that they stimulate
discussion and controversy about images missed and ones that
shouldn't be there.

That being said I have to admit, many of the images would have made
my short-list. But oh dear, not a single HCB? St. Ansel? Steichen?
Maybe copyright issues?

What surprises me most is that I see no attribution whatsoever. Is
that because I'm looking at a mobile version on my Android?

Interesting stuff. Thanks for posting.

Cheers,
frank

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Subject: OT: Iconic Images

http://themetapicture.com/iconic-pictures-of-the-world/



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Re: OT: Iconic Images

2012-10-28 Thread Paul Sorenson
Double check the Migrant Mother - I think that was Dorothea Lange.  Same 
group of photographers - pix for the FSA.


-p

On 10/28/2012 10:34 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

While they are iconic pictures of the world and world events they are
also iconic images of photography and specific photographers.
and should each have mentioned the photographer, even if they were owned
by news services for whom the photographers were working for at the time.

Some of these are from Magnum and some from Black Star (I think) - they
always credit the photographs..

The Migrant Mother is Walker Evans
I think the Yalta photo IS HCB but maybe I'm wrong.
The sailor kissing the nurse is Eisenstaedt
etc.. I've known some others in the past and forget now.

You would never see a set of iconic paintings shown without
the name of the artist, would you?

ann


On 10/28/2012 09:21, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

That is a valid point
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 6:23 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
wrote:


Iconic pictures of the WORLD, rather than iconic images of photography.

From: knarftheriault



These things are fun if for no other reason than that they stimulate
discussion and controversy about images missed and ones that
shouldn't be there.

That being said I have to admit, many of the images would have made
my short-list. But oh dear, not a single HCB? St. Ansel? Steichen?
Maybe copyright issues?

What surprises me most is that I see no attribution whatsoever. Is
that because I'm looking at a mobile version on my Android?

Interesting stuff. Thanks for posting.

Cheers,
frank

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Re: OT: Iconic Images

2012-10-28 Thread John Sessoms

Understood.

My Iconic pictures of the WORLD response was to Frank's not a single 
HCB? St. Ansel? Steichen? - history represented by photographs; not a 
history of photography. As such, they should have been chronological and 
they should have been attributed.


Migrant Mother is by Dorothea Lange.

Trang Bang Napalm Attack has been censored.


From: Ann Sanfedele

While they are iconic pictures of the world and world events they are
also iconic images of photography and specific photographers.
and should each have mentioned the photographer, even if they were owned
by news services for whom the photographers were working for at the time.

Some of these are from Magnum and some from Black Star (I think) - they
always credit the photographs..

The Migrant Mother is Walker Evans
I think the Yalta photo IS HCB but maybe I'm wrong.
The sailor kissing the nurse is Eisenstaedt
etc.. I've known some others in the past and forget now.

You would never see a set of iconic paintings shown without
the name of the artist, would you?

ann


On 10/28/2012 09:21, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

That is a valid point
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 6:23 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Iconic pictures of the WORLD, rather than iconic images of photography.

From: knarftheriault



These things are fun if for no other reason than that they stimulate
discussion and controversy about images missed and ones that
shouldn't be there.

That being said I have to admit, many of the images would have made
my short-list. But oh dear, not a single HCB? St. Ansel? Steichen?
Maybe copyright issues?

What surprises me most is that I see no attribution whatsoever. Is
that because I'm looking at a mobile version on my Android?

Interesting stuff. Thanks for posting.

Cheers,
frank

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Sent: October 27, 2012 10/27/12
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Subject: OT: Iconic Images

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Re: OT: Iconic Images

2012-10-28 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Point taken, John, but if I emphasize PICTURES instead of world...   ;-)

Besides, the WORLD includes nature, landscapes, cityscapes. Those things seem 
under-represented in this group.

That being said I agree with many of the choices they made. What irks me most 
is the lack of attribution. That is inexcusable especially for a photography 
site.

Good call on the blurring of Kim Phuc's genitals. Another inexcusable action on 
their part; her complete and utter nakedness is an essential part of the photo 
imho.

Cheers,
frank

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From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
Sent: October 28, 2012 10/28/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Iconic Images

Understood.

My Iconic pictures of the WORLD response was to Frank's not a single 
HCB? St. Ansel? Steichen? - history represented by photographs; not a 
history of photography. As such, they should have been chronological and 
they should have been attributed.

Migrant Mother is by Dorothea Lange.

Trang Bang Napalm Attack has been censored.


From: Ann Sanfedele
 While they are iconic pictures of the world and world events they are
 also iconic images of photography and specific photographers.
 and should each have mentioned the photographer, even if they were owned
 by news services for whom the photographers were working for at the time.

 Some of these are from Magnum and some from Black Star (I think) - they
 always credit the photographs..

 The Migrant Mother is Walker Evans
 I think the Yalta photo IS HCB but maybe I'm wrong.
 The sailor kissing the nurse is Eisenstaedt
 etc.. I've known some others in the past and forget now.

 You would never see a set of iconic paintings shown without
 the name of the artist, would you?

 ann


 On 10/28/2012 09:21, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 That is a valid point
 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


 On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 6:23 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Iconic pictures of the WORLD, rather than iconic images of photography.

 From: knarftheriault


 These things are fun if for no other reason than that they stimulate
 discussion and controversy about images missed and ones that
 shouldn't be there.

 That being said I have to admit, many of the images would have made
 my short-list. But oh dear, not a single HCB? St. Ansel? Steichen?
 Maybe copyright issues?

 What surprises me most is that I see no attribution whatsoever. Is
 that because I'm looking at a mobile version on my Android?

 Interesting stuff. Thanks for posting.

 Cheers,
 frank

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 From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
 Sent: October 27, 2012 10/27/12
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 Subject: OT: Iconic Images

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RE: OT: Iconic Images

2012-10-27 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
These things are fun if for no other reason than that they stimulate discussion 
and controversy about images missed and ones that shouldn't be there.

That being said I have to admit, many of the images would have made my 
short-list. But oh dear, not a single HCB? St. Ansel? Steichen? Maybe copyright 
issues?

What surprises me most is that I see no attribution whatsoever. Is that because 
I'm looking at a mobile version on my Android?

Interesting stuff. Thanks for posting.

Cheers,
frank

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From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
Sent: October 27, 2012 10/27/12
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Subject: OT: Iconic Images

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RE: OT: Iconic Images

2012-10-27 Thread John Sessoms

Iconic pictures of the WORLD, rather than iconic images of photography.

From: knarftheriault


These things are fun if for no other reason than that they stimulate
discussion and controversy about images missed and ones that
shouldn't be there.

That being said I have to admit, many of the images would have made
my short-list. But oh dear, not a single HCB? St. Ansel? Steichen?
Maybe copyright issues?

What surprises me most is that I see no attribution whatsoever. Is
that because I'm looking at a mobile version on my Android?

Interesting stuff. Thanks for posting.

Cheers,
frank

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From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
Sent: October 27, 2012 10/27/12
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Subject: OT: Iconic Images

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