Re: OT: Theater photo film choice (Brian's ramblings)

2001-04-09 Thread Paul . Stregevsky

That's exactly what I've done for years, ever since reading this advice in
the late 70s from Modern Photography's film expert, whose name was
something like Rothbard. He routinely dialed in 2/3 additional exposure to
help ensure saturation and detail.

I often forget to add exposure when shooting into a mildly backlit
condition or one where a bright sky dominates. So if I feel the roll will
be used mostly for grab shots, it's not uncommon for me to shoot 800 ISO
film at +1.33 stops, or ISO 330. Never had any problems with excessive
contrast.




Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have a customer who routinely push processes Portra 160VC for effect.
His results are excellent...quite poppy colour, but not overcontrasty.
Here's the catch: he does NOT underexpose the film!  He actually
overexposes it by about a stop and a half (I think he said he rates it
at ISO 50).  This gives him a very clean white highlight, almost blocked
up, and the "push" processing lowers the contrast enough that the final
result is more printable.

- -Aaron


Paul Franklin Stregevsky

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Re: OT: Theater photo film choice (Brian's ramblings)

2001-04-07 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Brian wrote:

 I have been using Fuji NHGII-800, pushed
 either 1 or 2 stops ...
 whenever I shoot C41 film that has to be
 pushed, I usually try to give it at least a third of a stop
 more light than I rate it for, ie.Shoot at 2500 and process at
 3200 etc. 

OK, please explain something to me.  If, as Bill and Aaron, our
resident processing gurus say, C41 is not pushable, but, rather, is
a develop to completion process, how do you "push" Fuji NGH one or
two stops.  What is your technique for processing it at 3200, etc.?

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Re: OT: Theater photo film choice (Brian's ramblings)

2001-04-07 Thread William Robb


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Subject: Re: OT: Theater photo  film choice (Brian's ramblings)


 Brian wrote:

  I have been using Fuji NHGII-800, pushed
  either 1 or 2 stops ...
  whenever I shoot C41 film that has to be
  pushed, I usually try to give it at least a third of a stop
  more light than I rate it for, ie.Shoot at 2500 and process
at
  3200 etc.

 OK, please explain something to me.  If, as Bill and Aaron,
our
 resident processing gurus say, C41 is not pushable, but,
rather, is
 a develop to completion process, how do you "push" Fuji NGH
one or
 two stops.  What is your technique for processing it at 3200,
etc.?

We've been down this road a couple of times, now. Here we go
again. Colour negative film has several stops of exposure
latitude. If you underexpose it, but the important shadow detail
is still imbedded on the emulsion, you will have a relatively
acceptable print.
What you get whenever you underexpose/overdevelop is a decrease
in shadow detail, with an increase in contrast. With C-41, as
you increase development, you also increase the mask (thats what
we call that orange coloured base) density.
What does happen with over developed C-41 film is that shadow
and midtone values do move up the exposure scale somewhat more
than highlight values, thereby increasing the amount of dye that
is formed around those exposure values. This does increase
relative saturation, and may give an appearance of a speed
increase.
Unfortunately, the film's speed point is measured at it's
threshold exposure value, and this is immutable. No increase in
processing time will alter that value.
William Robb

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OT: Theater photo film choice

2001-04-06 Thread Flavio Minelli

Hi all.

I'm reading on a new italian photo mag that Fuji finally released a new
Superia 1600 4-layers film. It's branded as consumer film, did anybody
got to test it? No data sheet available as yet on Fuji's site.

Others options are Supra or Superia 800 which I'd possibly try to push.
I'd like to stir a bit more argument about the unpushability of negative
film. If this is true why do film producers insist in giving pushing
info in their documentation? Come on, Sask. Bill, get eloquent ;-).

The last option is Kodak RG 1000. I used this in my last venture in this
field with good results. The promo stuff from Kodak says although the
film is for daylight it can be used with other kinds of lighting without
need of filters.
Maybe this is true for ALL negative films.

I already got some useful advice from knowledgeable people but I'd like
to have some more opinions, especially from those who did or do theater
photo (Brian?).

Thanks, Flavio
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Re: OT: Theater photo film choice (Brian's ramblings)

2001-04-06 Thread Rob Studdert

On 6 Apr 2001, at 9:55, Brian wrote:

 Hmm film for Theater (actually I've been shooting more
 dance recently than anything else...)
 
 Lately for color I have been using Fuji NHGII-800, pushed
 either 1 or 2 stops (depending on the ambient light available -
 I never use flash) and unfiltered.  I have been doing my
 color printing myself lately, up to 11 x 14 in the darkroom
 yeilds some excellent results.  The grain is apparent when
 this film is pushed that far, but it hasn't been overly mushy 
 and the clients really like the work.  It does take some time 
 to get the filtration right though, to fully correct tungsten light
 for color film is not possible IMO, but a "warmer" tone I find
 is more pleasing to my eyes than something that has been
 too heavily corrected.

Hi Brian,

Interesting, how is the contrast when the NHGII-800 is pushed? How is the 
shadow detail? Are you shooting spotlit performers or flood lit stages? I love 
this film for compressing contrast but If I want punch I usually use Portra 800 
these days.

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
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