Re: OT: photo lab fees

2003-07-10 Thread Bruce Dayton
Not, necessarily.  My lab will print the c-41 negs on B&W paper (it
looks better) rather than color paper.  That does cost just a bit
more. So they could be somewhat justified charging more.


Bruce



Thursday, July 10, 2003, 12:28:05 PM, you wrote:

LW> Yeah, they are messing with you.  Should cost the same
LW> as C-41 color:  it does at my lab.

LW> Michael Bergstrom wrote:
>> The local lab I've been patronising for the last year
>> hsa been very satisfactory, but I'm curious about one
>> thing.  I had sporadically used C-41 black and white
>> film, mainly for the cost effectiveness of being able
>> to have it processed and printed anywhere.  After I
>> settled on my current lab (because their service and
>> the quality of the prints has always made me happy) I
>> discovered that they charge the same for processing
>> and printing C-41 B&W as traditional B&W (which is
>> about 20% more than the cost for color C-41).  When I
>> asked about this I was pretty much told, 'That's the
>> way it is.'  I've been so generally happy with their
>> work that I just let it go but I've always wondered if
>> there could be a legitimate reason for this.  The
>> money doesn't mean so much to me, but then I don't
>> really have a lot of it either.  Any thoughts?
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
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RE: OT: photo lab fees

2003-07-10 Thread Butch Black
Hi Michael;

It is possible that they are either using a monochrome C-41 paper or are
printing on conventional B&W paper. I would compare the back of a C-41 B&W
print to one of their color prints. If the logo (if any) and the
backprinting are the same then it is almost certain that they're printing on
the same C-41 color paper with the same machine, which would put in question
the morality of charging more for the same product. Unfortunately, I have
found a lot of lab owners will do just that. Especially since most will try
to keep a somewhat competitive price for color D&P with the drugstore 1 hr.
labs. When digital first came out, labs that could print from it were
charging more per reprint then film plus a $3-4 media opening charge. $0.29
digital prints at Wal-Mart changed that quickly.

BUTCH

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Re: OT: photo lab fees

2003-07-10 Thread Lon Williamson
Yeah, they are messing with you.  Should cost the same
as C-41 color:  it does at my lab.
Michael Bergstrom wrote:
The local lab I've been patronising for the last year
hsa been very satisfactory, but I'm curious about one
thing.  I had sporadically used C-41 black and white
film, mainly for the cost effectiveness of being able
to have it processed and printed anywhere.  After I
settled on my current lab (because their service and
the quality of the prints has always made me happy) I
discovered that they charge the same for processing
and printing C-41 B&W as traditional B&W (which is
about 20% more than the cost for color C-41).  When I
asked about this I was pretty much told, 'That's the
way it is.'  I've been so generally happy with their
work that I just let it go but I've always wondered if
there could be a legitimate reason for this.  The
money doesn't mean so much to me, but then I don't
really have a lot of it either.  Any thoughts?
Michael

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Re: OT: photo lab fees

2003-07-10 Thread frank theriault
Hi, Michael,

For what it's worth, the custom lab that does my b&w here in Toronto
charges the same amount to process c41 as it does traditional b&w - $6
Cdn per roll for negs only.  I never asked him why that would be, I just
took it at face value, and I bring my C41 to a good minilab at a local
camera shop.  It's still more than el-cheapo minis, but the quality is
quite good.

cheers,
frank

Michael Bergstrom wrote:

> The local lab I've been patronising for the last year
> hsa been very satisfactory, but I'm curious about one
> thing.  I had sporadically used C-41 black and white
> film, mainly for the cost effectiveness of being able
> to have it processed and printed anywhere.  After I
> settled on my current lab (because their service and
> the quality of the prints has always made me happy) I
> discovered that they charge the same for processing
> and printing C-41 B&W as traditional B&W (which is
> about 20% more than the cost for color C-41).  When I
> asked about this I was pretty much told, 'That's the
> way it is.'  I've been so generally happy with their
> work that I just let it go but I've always wondered if
> there could be a legitimate reason for this.  The
> money doesn't mean so much to me, but then I don't
> really have a lot of it either.  Any thoughts?
>
> Michael
>
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OT: photo lab fees

2003-07-10 Thread Michael Bergstrom
The local lab I've been patronising for the last year
hsa been very satisfactory, but I'm curious about one
thing.  I had sporadically used C-41 black and white
film, mainly for the cost effectiveness of being able
to have it processed and printed anywhere.  After I
settled on my current lab (because their service and
the quality of the prints has always made me happy) I
discovered that they charge the same for processing
and printing C-41 B&W as traditional B&W (which is
about 20% more than the cost for color C-41).  When I
asked about this I was pretty much told, 'That's the
way it is.'  I've been so generally happy with their
work that I just let it go but I've always wondered if
there could be a legitimate reason for this.  The
money doesn't mean so much to me, but then I don't
really have a lot of it either.  Any thoughts?

Michael

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