Re: OT:Inkjet printer recommendations
based on another post, your printer is an older one with dumb cartridges. there seems to be a second ink capacity detection system. Herb - Original Message - From: "Ann Sanfedele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 12:17 PM Subject: Re: OT:Inkjet printer recommendations > Herb Chong wrote: > > > newer Epson printers track the amount of ink in the cartridge in the > > cartridge itself. removing and replacing doesn't change what the cartridge > > says. > > > > I can get it to keep printing when it is "out" by removing and replacing the > same cartridge - but it still won't run the nozzle check.
Re: OT:Inkjet printer recommendations
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 06:39:10AM -0500, Herb Chong wrote: > newer Epson printers track the amount of ink in the cartridge in the > cartridge itself. Actually the cartridges don't really sense how much ink is really there. They just have a simple counter that gets decreased proportionate to how much ink the printer thinks its using. Of course, Epson would rather have the cartridge show "empty" when there's some ink left, instead of running out of ink when it shows "some ink left". Less nasty surprises for the user that way (and more regular ink purchases, too...) One can buy resetters that reset the cartridges to showing "full", which allows one to print until they are *really* empty - but one still doesn't know when it will *really* run empty. -- ,_ /_) /| / / i e t e r/ |/ a g e l
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:47:36 -0500, Ann Sanfedele wrote: > Is the Photo Stylus an Epson? > > annsan Yes, it is the Epson Stylus Photo, one of the first, if not the first "Photo" quality printers from Epson. Around $300 in 1996/7. Kenneth Waller Ken Waller PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
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Juey Chong Ong wrote: > On Thursday, Dec 18, 2003, at 00:44 America/New_York, Ann Sanfedele > wrote: > > > I thought I tried that once and couldnt get it to clean. hmmm. > > When you put in an ink cartridge, it has to prime the cartridge by > doing something similar to a head cleaning. That's why it makes the > same groaning noises. I don't know if it's as thorough as a head > cleaning (btw, if you perform several head cleanings in succession, > each cleaning is a little more thorough --- and flushes more ink --- > than the previous one), but it's worked for me before. You may have to > fake more than one cartridge replacement. > > --jc Thanks, Juey! I have done repeated cleanings on occasion... Seems to me the printer has to ask me to change the cartridge before I can - that is I couldnt get it into loading position unless it asked... but that's ok, really. ann
Re: OT:Inkjet printer recommendations
Herb Chong wrote: > newer Epson printers track the amount of ink in the cartridge in the > cartridge itself. removing and replacing doesn't change what the cartridge > says. > I can get it to keep printing when it is "out" by removing and replacing the same cartridge - but it still won't run the nozzle check. ann > > Herb > - Original Message - > From: "Ann Sanfedele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 12:44 AM > Subject: Re: OT:Inkjet printer recommendations > > > > Here's the trick to do a head cleaning when the ink is too low: take > > > the cartridge out and put it back in. > > > > > > --jc > > > > I thought I tried that once and couldnt get it to clean. hmmm. > > > > a > > > > > > > >
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Remember to always shut the printer off using the > printer on/off switch. Don't shut off any other way > (i.e.- unplug, wall switch controlling outlet, etc) > I have a 7 year old Photo Stylus that I have maintained > this way and have never had to run the cleaning utility. > > Kenneth Waller > Guess they don't make em like that any more - But if I need to reboot it does. I'm one of those leave the computer on all the time folks... unless it misbehaves or I go away for a couple of days or more. Is the Photo Stylus an Epson? annsan > > On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 00:44:07 -0500, Ann Sanfedele wrote: > > > > > Juey Chong Ong wrote: > > > > > On Wednesday, Dec 17, 2003, at 11:34 > > America/New_York, Ann Sanfedele > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dunno. But I do get irked when the ink is low and > > it won't let me > > > > clean the head, > > > > even though there really is plenty of ink in the > > bucket . Ionly use > > > > Epson inks myself. > > > > > > Me too, and I notice the more expensive black ink > > gets clogged more > > > often than the color ink. > > > > > > Here's the trick to do a head cleaning when the ink > > is too low: take > > > the cartridge out and put it back in. > > > > > > --jc > > > > I thought I tried that once and couldnt get it to > > clean. hmmm. > > > > a > > Ken Waller > > PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. > http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: OT:Inkjet printer recommendations
On Thursday, Dec 18, 2003, at 00:44 America/New_York, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I thought I tried that once and couldnt get it to clean. hmmm. When you put in an ink cartridge, it has to prime the cartridge by doing something similar to a head cleaning. That's why it makes the same groaning noises. I don't know if it's as thorough as a head cleaning (btw, if you perform several head cleanings in succession, each cleaning is a little more thorough --- and flushes more ink --- than the previous one), but it's worked for me before. You may have to fake more than one cartridge replacement. --jc
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Ken, Very good advice. In my experience, there is a difference between the "cheap" epsons and the good ones. My first 870 (good one) is still going strong with almost no problems ever. The two in the garbage, an 820 and 785 didn't last more than a year. Paper feed problems, ink clogs, etc. They printed just as nicely as the 870, but were not built to the same standard. Not overly suprising, that the cheapest ones are cheap :) -- Best regards, Bruce Thursday, December 18, 2003, 5:07:38 AM, you wrote: kpc> Remember to always shut the printer off using the kpc> printer on/off switch. Don't shut off any other way kpc> (i.e.- unplug, wall switch controlling outlet, etc) kpc> I have a 7 year old Photo Stylus that I have maintained kpc> this way and have never had to run the cleaning utility. kpc> Kenneth Waller kpc> On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 00:44:07 -0500, Ann Sanfedele wrote: >> >> Juey Chong Ong wrote: >> >> > On Wednesday, Dec 17, 2003, at 11:34 >> America/New_York, Ann Sanfedele >> > wrote: >> > >> > > Dunno. But I do get irked when the ink is low and >> it won't let me >> > > clean the head, >> > > even though there really is plenty of ink in the >> bucket . Ionly use >> > > Epson inks myself. >> > >> > Me too, and I notice the more expensive black ink >> gets clogged more >> > often than the color ink. >> > >> > Here's the trick to do a head cleaning when the ink >> is too low: take >> > the cartridge out and put it back in. >> > >> > --jc >> >> I thought I tried that once and couldnt get it to >> clean. hmmm. >> >> a kpc> Ken Waller kpc> kpc> PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. kpc> http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: OT:Inkjet printer recommendations
Juey Chong Ong wrote: > On Wednesday, Dec 17, 2003, at 11:34 America/New_York, Ann Sanfedele > wrote: > > > Dunno. But I do get irked when the ink is low and it won't let me > > clean the head, > > even though there really is plenty of ink in the bucket . Ionly use > > Epson inks myself. > > Me too, and I notice the more expensive black ink gets clogged more > often than the color ink. > > Here's the trick to do a head cleaning when the ink is too low: take > the cartridge out and put it back in. > > --jc I thought I tried that once and couldnt get it to clean. hmmm. a
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Doug Franklin wrote: > On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:47:10 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I was wandering what people are using for printing photographs. > > My Epson 820 does what I consider to be a very good job. The unit > itself was cheap, but good paper and Epson ink cartridges aren't. > Using Epson ink on Kodak Ultra paper, I've got some prints on my wall > that haven't shown any obvious fading over two and a half years even > with direct sunlight for an hour or so a day. > > TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ I have an 820, too -- but the prints take forever to print at good quality and I know you cna't get the archival inks for it... it grabs too many pieces of paper often,too. still, it is good for the price. annsan
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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:47:10 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I was wandering what people are using for printing photographs. I use an Epson 2000P. The Archival Matte and Radiant white watercolor papers are really nice. For speed and glossy stuff I use an Olympus P-400 Wendy Beard, Ottawa, Canada http://www.beard-redfern.com
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> > I was just saying to my hubby - it really makes me wonder how amazing the > results would be if I really splashed out and bought something "decent" > around the au$800 price point... It probably wouldn't look all that different. The difference between a cheap printer and a more expensive unit nowadays mainly goes to things like a direct memory card interface, the ability to handle wider paper, or archival pigment-based inks. The cheaper units are only 4-colour printers, too, rather than the 6/7/8-ink high-end units. But 4-colour printing can do quite a good job. There is some difference in resolution, but it's probably the difference between 600ppi and 1200ppi; you'll only see it if you have a large enough original image file. Even a 300ppi printer is enough for a 6MP image. > I have been using Kodak Ultima Picture Paper That's OK as long as you don't worry about print lifetime; if you want prints that last as long as possible it's generally recommended that you stay with the (admittedly more expensive) supplies from the maker of your printer. Inks and papers are designed to work together.
Re: OT:Inkjet printer recommendations
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:47:10 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I was wandering what people are using for printing photographs. My Epson 820 does what I consider to be a very good job. The unit itself was cheap, but good paper and Epson ink cartridges aren't. Using Epson ink on Kodak Ultra paper, I've got some prints on my wall that haven't shown any obvious fading over two and a half years even with direct sunlight for an hour or so a day. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
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- Original Message - Subject: OT:Inkjet printer recommendations > I was wandering what people are using for printing photographs. At our last get- > together Christian has some nice prints, which he claimed were printed with a > cheap printer, I am not sure what he was implying about the quality, but the > images looked good. It got me thinking I should get one of decent quality to print > scanned slides and for a future digital camera. I use an Epson C-80 for the quick and dirty stuff, and a Noritsu 3101, which prints to photographic paper for the good stuff. William Robb
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I'm currently using a 7 year old Epson Stylus Photo to print 4"X6" mainly, with the occasional 8"X10". For the more serious images, I'm using a 2000P by Epson getting "Archival Quality" prints up to 13"X19". Just did a gallery show with 35 images done on the 2000P and the viewers were blow away by what could be done on a home printer. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT:Inkjet printer recommendations > Geoff, > > Most ink jet printers are cheap. It is the ink and paper > (consumables) that are expensive. Epson, Canon and HP could almost > give away the printers and still make money on the consumables. In > fact, that is just about what they are doing. The features you get > for paying alot more are duty cycle (work the printer harder), better > paper handling and possibly wider print carriage. At this point the > big three (Epson, Canon, HP) are all producing very good photo > printers that you would be hard pressed to be able to really tell a > difference between. Most of the printers work best when you use the > manufacturers inks and papers. I have used all three and can't really > say anything bad about any of them. > > -- > Best regards, > Bruce > > > > Wednesday, December 10, 2003, 11:47:10 AM, you wrote: > > mec> I was wandering what people are using for printing photographs. At our last get- > mec> together Christian has some nice prints, which he claimed were printed with a > mec> cheap printer, I am not sure what he was implying about the quality, but the > mec> images looked good. It got me thinking I should get one of decent quality to print > mec> scanned slides and for a future digital camera. > > mec> Thanks, > > mec> Geoff > > > >
