Re: OT - Samsung NX10

2009-12-26 Thread Adam Maas
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Martin Trautmann  wrote:
> Brian Walters wrote:
>
>> Just came across this while looking for something else.
>>
>>
>> http://forums.steves-digicams.com/pentax-samsung-dslr/163567-samsung-nx10.html
>>
>> Does this have basically the same sensor as the K20/K7?
>
> What puzzles me more: what kind of mount is this? I can't imagine that
> Samsung does want to build a full range of lenses on their own.
>
> - Martin
>

It's a short register mount like Micro-4/3rds and will likely have an
available K mount adapter which supports auto-aperture and possibly AF
with SDM lenses.

Given that lenses are a major profit centre, I'm pretty sure Samsung
wants to get into them when possible.



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Re: OT - Samsung NX10

2009-12-24 Thread Boris Liberman

On 12/24/2009 8:20 PM, Jim King wrote:

That would be Pentax, who have their hands full making their own lenses
today. (The Samsung Schneider lenses are just rebadged versions of
Pentax lenses.)

Regards, Jim


Jim, I am thinking that as long as Pentax gains from this whatever 
profit they are set out to gain, they will produce more Schneider badged 
lenses "happily thereafter"...


Boris





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Re: OT - Samsung NX10

2009-12-24 Thread Jim King

John Sessoms wrote on Thu, 24 Dec 2009 09:15:44 -0800

(snip)
I think Samsung Corporation owns Schneider, or owns the Schneider  
brand name. I'd think whoever made the Schneider D-Xenon and D- 
Xenogon lenses for them can provide whatever they need for this mount.


That would be Pentax, who have their hands full making their own  
lenses today.  (The Samsung Schneider lenses are just rebadged  
versions of Pentax lenses.)


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Re: OT - Samsung NX10

2009-12-24 Thread Dario Bonazza

John Sessoms wrote:



From: "Dario Bonazza"

Martin Trautmann wrote:



> Brian Walters wrote:
>

>> Just came across this while looking for something else.
>>
>> 
http://forums.steves-digicams.com/pentax-samsung-dslr/163567-samsung-nx10.html
>>
>> Does this have basically the same sensor as the K20/K7?

>
> What puzzles me more: what kind of mount is this? I can't imagine that 
> Samsung does want to build a full range of lenses on their own.


No big problem in my opinion, because:

1) They probably need just 4 lenses in their range (a standard zoom, a 
tele zoom, a pancake prime and a superzoom for video). That's the way 
consumer electronics companies think about photography. See Panasonic.


2) Samsung will subcontract lens manufacturing to any company capable and 
willing to do that.


I think Samsung Corporation owns Schneider, or owns the Schneider brand 
name. I'd think whoever made the Schneider D-Xenon and D-Xenogon lenses 
for them can provide whatever they need for this mount.


;-) True, and that falls into No.2 above.

Dario 



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Re: OT - Samsung NX10

2009-12-24 Thread John Sessoms

From: "Dario Bonazza"

Martin Trautmann wrote:



> Brian Walters wrote:
>

>> Just came across this while looking for something else.
>>
>> 
http://forums.steves-digicams.com/pentax-samsung-dslr/163567-samsung-nx10.html
>>
>> Does this have basically the same sensor as the K20/K7?

>
> What puzzles me more: what kind of mount is this? I can't imagine that 
> Samsung does want to build a full range of lenses on their own.


No big problem in my opinion, because:

1) They probably need just 4 lenses in their range (a standard zoom, a tele 
zoom, a pancake prime and a superzoom for video). That's the way consumer 
electronics companies think about photography. See Panasonic.


2) Samsung will subcontract lens manufacturing to any company capable and 
willing to do that.


I think Samsung Corporation owns Schneider, or owns the Schneider brand 
name. I'd think whoever made the Schneider D-Xenon and D-Xenogon lenses 
for them can provide whatever they need for this mount.


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Re: OT - Samsung NX10

2009-12-24 Thread Dario Bonazza

Martin Trautmann wrote:



Brian Walters wrote:


Just came across this while looking for something else.

http://forums.steves-digicams.com/pentax-samsung-dslr/163567-samsung-nx10.html

Does this have basically the same sensor as the K20/K7?


What puzzles me more: what kind of mount is this? I can't imagine that 
Samsung does want to build a full range of lenses on their own.


No big problem in my opinion, because:

1) They probably need just 4 lenses in their range (a standard zoom, a tele 
zoom, a pancake prime and a superzoom for video). That's the way consumer 
electronics companies think about photography. See Panasonic.


2) Samsung will subcontract lens manufacturing to any company capable and 
willing to do that.


Dario 



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Re: OT - Samsung NX10

2009-12-24 Thread Martin Trautmann

Brian Walters wrote:


Just came across this while looking for something else.

http://forums.steves-digicams.com/pentax-samsung-dslr/163567-samsung-nx10.html

Does this have basically the same sensor as the K20/K7?


What puzzles me more: what kind of mount is this? I can't imagine that 
Samsung does want to build a full range of lenses on their own.


- Martin

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Re: OT - Samsung NX10

2009-12-22 Thread P. J. Alling

On 12/22/2009 4:15 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 9:48 AM, P. J. Alling
  wrote:


I wish people wouldn't abbreviate the Mini 4/3 cameras m43, I keep thing
that someone is building a Screw Mount, digital and I just know that JCO is
likely to get over excited about that...


There was a while when I actually confused m43 and m42 thinking that
it was a misprint of sorts. Presently I find m43 a convenient
abbrevation.




I understand.  I still see m43 as M42...


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Re: OT - Samsung NX10

2009-12-22 Thread Steven Desjardins
I will eventually buy one of these type cameras (that cheap thing  
again) but I wouldn't risk samsung for awhile yet.


Steve Desjardins

On Dec 22, 2009, at 2:48 AM, "P. J. Alling"  
 wrote:


I wish people wouldn't abbreviate the Mini 4/3 cameras m43, I keep  
thing that someone is building a Screw Mount, digital and I just  
know that JCO is likely to get over excited about that...


On 12/22/2009 2:05 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
Yes, Brian, there is a lot going on on the net regarding seemingly  
imminent and rather close announcement by Samsung.


Interestingly in the discussion you mentioned they indicate crop  
factor of 1.57 which might mean that the sensors are this camera  
and those in Pentax are ever so slightly different.


Also, m43 is somewhat more attractive at least to me due to the  
fact that (as far as I understand) Leica takes part in the design  
of some of the lenses. Who is going to make the lenses for Samsung  
is yet unknown for me.


Though, indeed, the flood gates of smaller-than-slr changeable lens  
cameras market seem to have been completely opened.


Boris


On 12/22/2009 8:39 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

Just came across this while looking for something else.

http://forums.steves-digicams.com/pentax-samsung-dslr/163567-samsung-nx10.html


Does this have basically the same sensor as the K20/K7?

Apparently it looks bigger than it really is (if the comparison  
photos

with the Panasonic GF-1 are anything to go by)


Cheers

Brian

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Re: OT - Samsung NX10

2009-12-22 Thread Boris Liberman
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 9:48 AM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> I wish people wouldn't abbreviate the Mini 4/3 cameras m43, I keep thing
> that someone is building a Screw Mount, digital and I just know that JCO is
> likely to get over excited about that...

There was a while when I actually confused m43 and m42 thinking that
it was a misprint of sorts. Presently I find m43 a convenient
abbrevation.

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> interface subtly weird.\par
> }
>

I've upgraded to TB 3.0 either, but I never thought that TeX was being
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Re: OT - Samsung NX10

2009-12-21 Thread P. J. Alling
I wish people wouldn't abbreviate the Mini 4/3 cameras m43, I keep thing 
that someone is building a Screw Mount, digital and I just know that JCO 
is likely to get over excited about that...


On 12/22/2009 2:05 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
Yes, Brian, there is a lot going on on the net regarding seemingly 
imminent and rather close announcement by Samsung.


Interestingly in the discussion you mentioned they indicate crop 
factor of 1.57 which might mean that the sensors are this camera and 
those in Pentax are ever so slightly different.


Also, m43 is somewhat more attractive at least to me due to the fact 
that (as far as I understand) Leica takes part in the design of some 
of the lenses. Who is going to make the lenses for Samsung is yet 
unknown for me.


Though, indeed, the flood gates of smaller-than-slr changeable lens 
cameras market seem to have been completely opened.


Boris


On 12/22/2009 8:39 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

Just came across this while looking for something else.

http://forums.steves-digicams.com/pentax-samsung-dslr/163567-samsung-nx10.html 




Does this have basically the same sensor as the K20/K7?

Apparently it looks bigger than it really is (if the comparison photos
with the Panasonic GF-1 are anything to go by)


Cheers

Brian

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Re: OT - Samsung NX10

2009-12-21 Thread Boris Liberman
Yes, Brian, there is a lot going on on the net regarding seemingly 
imminent and rather close announcement by Samsung.


Interestingly in the discussion you mentioned they indicate crop factor 
of 1.57 which might mean that the sensors are this camera and those in 
Pentax are ever so slightly different.


Also, m43 is somewhat more attractive at least to me due to the fact 
that (as far as I understand) Leica takes part in the design of some of 
the lenses. Who is going to make the lenses for Samsung is yet unknown 
for me.


Though, indeed, the flood gates of smaller-than-slr changeable lens 
cameras market seem to have been completely opened.


Boris


On 12/22/2009 8:39 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

Just came across this while looking for something else.

http://forums.steves-digicams.com/pentax-samsung-dslr/163567-samsung-nx10.html


Does this have basically the same sensor as the K20/K7?

Apparently it looks bigger than it really is (if the comparison photos
with the Panasonic GF-1 are anything to go by)


Cheers

Brian

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OT - Samsung NX10

2009-12-21 Thread Brian Walters
G'day all

Just came across this while looking for something else.

http://forums.steves-digicams.com/pentax-samsung-dslr/163567-samsung-nx10.html


Does this have basically the same sensor as the K20/K7?

Apparently it looks bigger than it really is (if the comparison photos
with the Panasonic GF-1 are anything to go by)


Cheers

Brian

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