Re: OT - Samsung NX10
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Martin Trautmann wrote: > Brian Walters wrote: > >> Just came across this while looking for something else. >> >> >> http://forums.steves-digicams.com/pentax-samsung-dslr/163567-samsung-nx10.html >> >> Does this have basically the same sensor as the K20/K7? > > What puzzles me more: what kind of mount is this? I can't imagine that > Samsung does want to build a full range of lenses on their own. > > - Martin > It's a short register mount like Micro-4/3rds and will likely have an available K mount adapter which supports auto-aperture and possibly AF with SDM lenses. Given that lenses are a major profit centre, I'm pretty sure Samsung wants to get into them when possible. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Samsung NX10
On 12/24/2009 8:20 PM, Jim King wrote: That would be Pentax, who have their hands full making their own lenses today. (The Samsung Schneider lenses are just rebadged versions of Pentax lenses.) Regards, Jim Jim, I am thinking that as long as Pentax gains from this whatever profit they are set out to gain, they will produce more Schneider badged lenses "happily thereafter"... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Samsung NX10
John Sessoms wrote on Thu, 24 Dec 2009 09:15:44 -0800 (snip) I think Samsung Corporation owns Schneider, or owns the Schneider brand name. I'd think whoever made the Schneider D-Xenon and D- Xenogon lenses for them can provide whatever they need for this mount. That would be Pentax, who have their hands full making their own lenses today. (The Samsung Schneider lenses are just rebadged versions of Pentax lenses.) Regards, Jim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Samsung NX10
John Sessoms wrote: From: "Dario Bonazza" Martin Trautmann wrote: > Brian Walters wrote: > >> Just came across this while looking for something else. >> >> http://forums.steves-digicams.com/pentax-samsung-dslr/163567-samsung-nx10.html >> >> Does this have basically the same sensor as the K20/K7? > > What puzzles me more: what kind of mount is this? I can't imagine that > Samsung does want to build a full range of lenses on their own. No big problem in my opinion, because: 1) They probably need just 4 lenses in their range (a standard zoom, a tele zoom, a pancake prime and a superzoom for video). That's the way consumer electronics companies think about photography. See Panasonic. 2) Samsung will subcontract lens manufacturing to any company capable and willing to do that. I think Samsung Corporation owns Schneider, or owns the Schneider brand name. I'd think whoever made the Schneider D-Xenon and D-Xenogon lenses for them can provide whatever they need for this mount. ;-) True, and that falls into No.2 above. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Samsung NX10
From: "Dario Bonazza" Martin Trautmann wrote: > Brian Walters wrote: > >> Just came across this while looking for something else. >> >> http://forums.steves-digicams.com/pentax-samsung-dslr/163567-samsung-nx10.html >> >> Does this have basically the same sensor as the K20/K7? > > What puzzles me more: what kind of mount is this? I can't imagine that > Samsung does want to build a full range of lenses on their own. No big problem in my opinion, because: 1) They probably need just 4 lenses in their range (a standard zoom, a tele zoom, a pancake prime and a superzoom for video). That's the way consumer electronics companies think about photography. See Panasonic. 2) Samsung will subcontract lens manufacturing to any company capable and willing to do that. I think Samsung Corporation owns Schneider, or owns the Schneider brand name. I'd think whoever made the Schneider D-Xenon and D-Xenogon lenses for them can provide whatever they need for this mount. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Samsung NX10
Martin Trautmann wrote: Brian Walters wrote: Just came across this while looking for something else. http://forums.steves-digicams.com/pentax-samsung-dslr/163567-samsung-nx10.html Does this have basically the same sensor as the K20/K7? What puzzles me more: what kind of mount is this? I can't imagine that Samsung does want to build a full range of lenses on their own. No big problem in my opinion, because: 1) They probably need just 4 lenses in their range (a standard zoom, a tele zoom, a pancake prime and a superzoom for video). That's the way consumer electronics companies think about photography. See Panasonic. 2) Samsung will subcontract lens manufacturing to any company capable and willing to do that. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Samsung NX10
Brian Walters wrote: Just came across this while looking for something else. http://forums.steves-digicams.com/pentax-samsung-dslr/163567-samsung-nx10.html Does this have basically the same sensor as the K20/K7? What puzzles me more: what kind of mount is this? I can't imagine that Samsung does want to build a full range of lenses on their own. - Martin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Samsung NX10
On 12/22/2009 4:15 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 9:48 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: I wish people wouldn't abbreviate the Mini 4/3 cameras m43, I keep thing that someone is building a Screw Mount, digital and I just know that JCO is likely to get over excited about that... There was a while when I actually confused m43 and m42 thinking that it was a misprint of sorts. Presently I find m43 a convenient abbrevation. I understand. I still see m43 as M42... -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the interface subtly weird.\par } I've upgraded to TB 3.0 either, but I never thought that TeX was being resurrected and put to active use again... Not TeX, wordpad RTF output treated as .txt -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the interface subtly weird.\par } -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Samsung NX10
I will eventually buy one of these type cameras (that cheap thing again) but I wouldn't risk samsung for awhile yet. Steve Desjardins On Dec 22, 2009, at 2:48 AM, "P. J. Alling" wrote: I wish people wouldn't abbreviate the Mini 4/3 cameras m43, I keep thing that someone is building a Screw Mount, digital and I just know that JCO is likely to get over excited about that... On 12/22/2009 2:05 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Yes, Brian, there is a lot going on on the net regarding seemingly imminent and rather close announcement by Samsung. Interestingly in the discussion you mentioned they indicate crop factor of 1.57 which might mean that the sensors are this camera and those in Pentax are ever so slightly different. Also, m43 is somewhat more attractive at least to me due to the fact that (as far as I understand) Leica takes part in the design of some of the lenses. Who is going to make the lenses for Samsung is yet unknown for me. Though, indeed, the flood gates of smaller-than-slr changeable lens cameras market seem to have been completely opened. Boris On 12/22/2009 8:39 AM, Brian Walters wrote: G'day all Just came across this while looking for something else. http://forums.steves-digicams.com/pentax-samsung-dslr/163567-samsung-nx10.html Does this have basically the same sensor as the K20/K7? Apparently it looks bigger than it really is (if the comparison photos with the Panasonic GF-1 are anything to go by) Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil \fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the interface subtly weird.\par } -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Samsung NX10
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 9:48 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > I wish people wouldn't abbreviate the Mini 4/3 cameras m43, I keep thing > that someone is building a Screw Mount, digital and I just know that JCO is > likely to get over excited about that... There was a while when I actually confused m43 and m42 thinking that it was a misprint of sorts. Presently I find m43 a convenient abbrevation. > -- > {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 > Courier New;}} > \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the > interface subtly weird.\par > } > I've upgraded to TB 3.0 either, but I never thought that TeX was being resurrected and put to active use again... -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Samsung NX10
I wish people wouldn't abbreviate the Mini 4/3 cameras m43, I keep thing that someone is building a Screw Mount, digital and I just know that JCO is likely to get over excited about that... On 12/22/2009 2:05 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Yes, Brian, there is a lot going on on the net regarding seemingly imminent and rather close announcement by Samsung. Interestingly in the discussion you mentioned they indicate crop factor of 1.57 which might mean that the sensors are this camera and those in Pentax are ever so slightly different. Also, m43 is somewhat more attractive at least to me due to the fact that (as far as I understand) Leica takes part in the design of some of the lenses. Who is going to make the lenses for Samsung is yet unknown for me. Though, indeed, the flood gates of smaller-than-slr changeable lens cameras market seem to have been completely opened. Boris On 12/22/2009 8:39 AM, Brian Walters wrote: G'day all Just came across this while looking for something else. http://forums.steves-digicams.com/pentax-samsung-dslr/163567-samsung-nx10.html Does this have basically the same sensor as the K20/K7? Apparently it looks bigger than it really is (if the comparison photos with the Panasonic GF-1 are anything to go by) Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the interface subtly weird.\par } -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Samsung NX10
Yes, Brian, there is a lot going on on the net regarding seemingly imminent and rather close announcement by Samsung. Interestingly in the discussion you mentioned they indicate crop factor of 1.57 which might mean that the sensors are this camera and those in Pentax are ever so slightly different. Also, m43 is somewhat more attractive at least to me due to the fact that (as far as I understand) Leica takes part in the design of some of the lenses. Who is going to make the lenses for Samsung is yet unknown for me. Though, indeed, the flood gates of smaller-than-slr changeable lens cameras market seem to have been completely opened. Boris On 12/22/2009 8:39 AM, Brian Walters wrote: G'day all Just came across this while looking for something else. http://forums.steves-digicams.com/pentax-samsung-dslr/163567-samsung-nx10.html Does this have basically the same sensor as the K20/K7? Apparently it looks bigger than it really is (if the comparison photos with the Panasonic GF-1 are anything to go by) Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - Samsung NX10
G'day all Just came across this while looking for something else. http://forums.steves-digicams.com/pentax-samsung-dslr/163567-samsung-nx10.html Does this have basically the same sensor as the K20/K7? Apparently it looks bigger than it really is (if the comparison photos with the Panasonic GF-1 are anything to go by) Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.