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If you use the right printer for 4 x 6 prints, you can beat the cost of lab prints. Try the HP Photosmart 100, 130, or the most current 4 x 6 printer. Great 4 x 6 prints but, remember, it won't print anything larger. I do all of my 4 x 6 prints on it and do the big prints on the Epson. Len --- I concur. On my Canon, HP, and Epsons, 8X10's would cost in the $2-$3 range. That is reasonable as a lab print would cost about $6.50 each. I found that 8X10's were cost effective (provided you don't have to reprint - color problems, lightness, etc) but 4X6's are iffy compared to lab cost. Bruce _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
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I have an Epson 2000P. I've been printing with it for 6 months or so and haven't kept a close tab on the costs but it appears I can do an 8X10 print for around a $1.00/print ink costs and around $0.80/print photo paper costs. I consider this a bargain. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Len, I never found a cheap source for paper. That was alway the major cost for me. The quality of paper needs to be on par with what I get at the lab. That is what drove up the cost of the prints for me. Bruce Tuesday, June 3, 2003, 11:52:12 AM, you wrote: LP If you use the right printer for 4 x 6 prints, you can beat the cost of lab LP prints. Try the HP Photosmart 100, 130, or the most current 4 x 6 printer. LP Great 4 x 6 prints but, remember, it won't print anything larger. I do all LP of my 4 x 6 prints on it and do the big prints on the Epson. LP Len LP --- I concur. On my Canon, HP, and Epsons, 8X10's would cost in the $2-$3 range. That is reasonable as a lab print would cost about $6.50 each. I found that 8X10's were cost effective (provided you don't have to reprint - color problems, lightness, etc) but 4X6's are iffy compared to lab cost. Bruce
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Kenneth, 8X10's are cheaper than the lab. It is 4X6 paper that is the problem. I put ink cost around around 20-30 cents. To keep under the 50 cent threshhold of lab cost on 4X6 reprint, that means the paper needs to be 20 cents or less. About the cheapest I have found for quality paper is 30 cents sheet in quantity. It also seems like the borderless printing uses more ink than I would expect. Anyway, I have found that as long as you don't have to reprint, 8X10's are about half last cost but 4X6 are as much or more than the lab. Bruce Tuesday, June 3, 2003, 3:29:13 PM, you wrote: KW I have an Epson 2000P. I've been printing with it for 6 months or so and KW haven't kept a close tab on the costs but it appears I can do an 8X10 print KW for around a $1.00/print ink costs and around $0.80/print photo paper costs. KW I consider this a bargain. KW Kenneth Waller KW - Original Message - KW From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Len, I never found a cheap source for paper. That was alway the major cost for me. The quality of paper needs to be on par with what I get at the lab. That is what drove up the cost of the prints for me. Bruce Tuesday, June 3, 2003, 11:52:12 AM, you wrote: LP If you use the right printer for 4 x 6 prints, you can beat the cost KW of lab LP prints. Try the HP Photosmart 100, 130, or the most current 4 x 6 KW printer. LP Great 4 x 6 prints but, remember, it won't print anything larger. I KW do all LP of my 4 x 6 prints on it and do the big prints on the Epson. LP Len LP --- I concur. On my Canon, HP, and Epsons, 8X10's would cost in the $2-$3 range. That is reasonable as a lab print would cost about $6.50 each. I found that 8X10's were cost effective (provided you don't have to reprint - color problems, lightness, etc) but 4X6's are iffy compared to lab cost. Bruce
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Bruce, When I was printing 4X6's, I ran the numbers and was able to get 4X6's off my Epson Stylus Photo -97 vintage- at an ink cost of $0.30/print and 4X6 borderles photopaper @ around $0.25/sheet. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:04 PM Subject: Re: OT - digital darkroom - printing... Kenneth, 8X10's are cheaper than the lab. It is 4X6 paper that is the problem. I put ink cost around 20-30 cents. To keep under the 50 cent threshhold of lab cost on 4X6 reprint, that means the paper needs to be 20 cents or less. About the cheapest I have found for quality paper is 30 cents sheet in quantity. It also seems like the borderless printing uses more ink than I would expect. Anyway, I have found that as long as you don't have to reprint, 8X10's are about half last cost but 4X6 are as much or more than the lab. Bruce Tuesday, June 3, 2003, 3:29:13 PM, you wrote: KW I have an Epson 2000P. I've been printing with it for 6 months or so and KW haven't kept a close tab on the costs but it appears I can do an 8X10 print KW for around a $1.00/print ink costs and around $0.80/print photo paper costs. KW I consider this a bargain. KW Kenneth Waller KW - Original Message - KW From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Len, I never found a cheap source for paper. That was alway the major cost for me. The quality of paper needs to be on par with what I get at the lab. That is what drove up the cost of the prints for me. Bruce Tuesday, June 3, 2003, 11:52:12 AM, you wrote: LP If you use the right printer for 4 x 6 prints, you can beat the cost KW of lab LP prints. Try the HP Photosmart 100, 130, or the most current 4 x 6 KW printer. LP Great 4 x 6 prints but, remember, it won't print anything larger. I KW do all LP of my 4 x 6 prints on it and do the big prints on the Epson. LP Len LP --- I concur. On my Canon, HP, and Epsons, 8X10's would cost in the $2-$3 range. That is reasonable as a lab print would cost about $6.50 each. I found that 8X10's were cost effective (provided you don't have to reprint - color problems, lightness, etc) but 4X6's are iffy compared to lab cost. Bruce
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My Epson is a 2200. I haven't set out to actually get an accurate cost figure for 8.5 x 11 prints yet but it does seem to cost less to print than my Epson 1200. I use mostly Epson Premium Luster photo paper, with some enhanced matte and some of their watercolor paper now and then. Len --- -Original Message- From: Kenneth Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 5:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT - digital darkroom - printing... I have an Epson 2000P. I've been printing with it for 6 months or so and haven't kept a close tab on the costs but it appears I can do an 8X10 print for around a $1.00/print ink costs and around $0.80/print photo paper costs. I consider this a bargain. Kenneth Waller
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Kenneth, Same ballpark. But I can get the lab to do it for $0.49 each. That means the lab is cheaper by $0.06 per print. Bruce Tuesday, June 3, 2003, 4:18:15 PM, you wrote: KW Bruce, KW When I was printing 4X6's, I ran the numbers and was able to get 4X6's off KW my Epson Stylus Photo -97 vintage- at an ink cost of $0.30/print and 4X6 KW borderles photopaper @ around $0.25/sheet. KW Kenneth Waller KW - Original Message - KW From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] KW To: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] KW Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:04 PM KW Subject: Re: OT - digital darkroom - printing... Kenneth, 8X10's are cheaper than the lab. It is 4X6 paper that is the problem. I put ink cost around 20-30 cents. To keep under the 50 cent threshhold of lab cost on 4X6 reprint, that means the paper needs to be 20 cents or less. About the cheapest I have found for quality paper is 30 cents sheet in quantity. It also seems like the borderless printing uses more ink than I would expect. Anyway, I have found that as long as you don't have to reprint, 8X10's are about half last cost but 4X6 are as much or more than the lab. Bruce Tuesday, June 3, 2003, 3:29:13 PM, you wrote: KW I have an Epson 2000P. I've been printing with it for 6 months or so KW and KW haven't kept a close tab on the costs but it appears I can do an 8X10 KW print KW for around a $1.00/print ink costs and around $0.80/print photo paper KW costs. KW I consider this a bargain. KW Kenneth Waller KW - Original Message - KW From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Len, I never found a cheap source for paper. That was alway the major cost for me. The quality of paper needs to be on par with what I get at the lab. That is what drove up the cost of the prints for me. Bruce Tuesday, June 3, 2003, 11:52:12 AM, you wrote: LP If you use the right printer for 4 x 6 prints, you can beat the KW cost KW of lab LP prints. Try the HP Photosmart 100, 130, or the most current 4 x 6 KW printer. LP Great 4 x 6 prints but, remember, it won't print anything larger. KW I KW do all LP of my 4 x 6 prints on it and do the big prints on the Epson. LP Len LP --- I concur. On my Canon, HP, and Epsons, 8X10's would cost in the $2-$3 range. That is reasonable as a lab print would cost about $6.50 each. I found that 8X10's were cost effective (provided you don't have to reprint - color problems, lightness, etc) but 4X6's are iffy compared to lab cost. Bruce
OT - digital darkroom - printing...
Hello, A question for digital darkroom users who do printing frequently ... what is the cost of the print for say 8*10 size ? Of course, it will vary depending on printer, paper and inks and that is what I am trying to figure out. I have a HP PC and 932 printer. The ink-set costs around US$60.00 and I think I can print around 20 pictures of 8*10 size. This printer is also used for all other general work of, so say around three pictures more I might get - maximum 25, I would say, i.e. around US$ 2.4/print - inks. Any input available/possible for other printers ? Canon ? Epson ? Thanks in advance. Anand. _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
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There were 3 pro nature photographers at Grandfather Mountain this weekend. All 3 said Epson, Epson and Epson. Bill - Original Message - From: Anand DHUPKAR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 8:13 PM Subject: OT - digital darkroom - printing... Hello, A question for digital darkroom users who do printing frequently ... what is the cost of the print for say 8*10 size ? Of course, it will vary depending on printer, paper and inks and that is what I am trying to figure out. I have a HP PC and 932 printer. The ink-set costs around US$60.00 and I think I can print around 20 pictures of 8*10 size. This printer is also used for all other general work of, so say around three pictures more I might get - maximum 25, I would say, i.e. around US$ 2.4/print - inks. Any input available/possible for other printers ? Canon ? Epson ? Thanks in advance. Anand. _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
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Brendan, I concur. On my Canon, HP, and Epsons, 8X10's would cost in the $2-$3 range. That is reasonable as a lab print would cost about $6.50 each. I found that 8X10's were cost effective (provided you don't have to reprint - color problems, lightness, etc) but 4X6's are iffy compared to lab cost. Bruce Sunday, June 1, 2003, 7:12:49 PM, you wrote: B Epson 2200 or 1280 . Ink costs run between $2-$3 a B print and thats reality. B --- Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: B There were 3 pro nature photographers at Grandfather Mountain this weekend. All 3 said Epson, Epson and Epson. Bill - Original Message - From: Anand DHUPKAR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 8:13 PM Subject: OT - digital darkroom - printing... Hello, A question for digital darkroom users who do printing frequently ... what is the cost of the print for say 8*10 size ? Of course, it will vary depending on printer, paper and inks and that is what I am trying to figure out. I have a HP PC and 932 printer. The ink-set costs around US$60.00 and I think I can print around 20 pictures of 8*10 size. This printer is also used for all other general work of, so say around three pictures more I might get - maximum 25, I would say, i.e. around US$ 2.4/print - inks. Any input available/possible for other printers ? Canon ? Epson ? Thanks in advance. Anand. B _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus B __ B Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
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You don't buy a $1200 ( canucks ) printer to do 4x6's lol. --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brendan, I concur. On my Canon, HP, and Epsons, 8X10's would cost in the $2-$3 range. That is reasonable as a lab print would cost about $6.50 each. I found that 8X10's were cost effective (provided you don't have to reprint - color problems, lightness, etc) but 4X6's are iffy compared to lab cost. Bruce Sunday, June 1, 2003, 7:12:49 PM, you wrote: B Epson 2200 or 1280 . Ink costs run between $2-$3 a B print and thats reality. B --- Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: B There were 3 pro nature photographers at Grandfather Mountain this weekend. All 3 said Epson, Epson and Epson. Bill - Original Message - From: Anand DHUPKAR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 8:13 PM Subject: OT - digital darkroom - printing... Hello, A question for digital darkroom users who do printing frequently ... what is the cost of the print for say 8*10 size ? Of course, it will vary depending on printer, paper and inks and that is what I am trying to figure out. I have a HP PC and 932 printer. The ink-set costs around US$60.00 and I think I can print around 20 pictures of 8*10 size. This printer is also used for all other general work of, so say around three pictures more I might get - maximum 25, I would say, i.e. around US$ 2.4/print - inks. Any input available/possible for other printers ? Canon ? Epson ? Thanks in advance. Anand. B _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus B __ B Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
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Hi, My estimate using an Epson 2200, dedicated strictly for printing photos and using Photo paper, is $2.34 an 8x10. I figure I get 30 prints per lt cyan and lt magenta, 40 prints per photo black and lt black, and 60 prints per cyan, magenta and yellow. Paper is $.50 per sheet (Ilford gallerie smooth gloss in 100 sheet packs). I get my best results printing from profiles. Epson has profiles for download. Their watercolor is ok, their glossy is too red for my taste. If you go to Pictorico's web site they have profiles for download. I find that the profile for their photo gallery glossy paper works perfectly with the Ilford gallerie smooth gloss paper. I have found that printing using profiles seems to give me a print with more snap.
