RE: OT - recovering files with Linux

2007-06-07 Thread Bob W
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
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> 
> Little imagination? I thing Mr Gates has the same imagination 
> as The Brain, "Tomorrow, I am taking over the universe". But 
> even then he is not as strange as Mr "I take open source 
> operating systems, clean them up a bit and sue anyone who 
> copies it" Jobs.
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> P. J. Alling wrote:
> > It's actually worse than that.  It's as if J.D. Rockefeller 
> managed to 
> > get control of both the Energy and Transportation 
> industries at the same 
> > time.  His descendants would be king in all but name today, 
> unless they 
> > decided to abolish the federal government and take the titles for 
> > themselves.  This is purely evil much the way all 
> bureaucrats become 
> > evil when small minds with little imagination gain too much power.
> > 
> > graywolf wrote:
> >> I only skimmed the article. Seems like we are seeing Billy 
> Boys usual screw the consumer, woo big business attitude 
> taken to extremes. He may have shot himself in the foot this 
> time. But you and never underestimate the consumers lack of 
> awareness...
> >>
> >> I really need to go back to Linux or some form of Unix.
> >>
> >>   
> > 
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Re: OT - recovering files with Linux

2007-06-07 Thread graywolf
Little imagination? I thing Mr Gates has the same imagination as The Brain, 
"Tomorrow, I am taking over the universe". But even then he is not as strange 
as Mr "I take open source operating systems, clean them up a bit and sue anyone 
who copies it" Jobs.

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P. J. Alling wrote:
> It's actually worse than that.  It's as if J.D. Rockefeller managed to 
> get control of both the Energy and Transportation industries at the same 
> time.  His descendants would be king in all but name today, unless they 
> decided to abolish the federal government and take the titles for 
> themselves.  This is purely evil much the way all bureaucrats become 
> evil when small minds with little imagination gain too much power.
> 
> graywolf wrote:
>> I only skimmed the article. Seems like we are seeing Billy Boys usual screw 
>> the consumer, woo big business attitude taken to extremes. He may have shot 
>> himself in the foot this time. But you and never underestimate the consumers 
>> lack of awareness...
>>
>> I really need to go back to Linux or some form of Unix.
>>
>>   
> 
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Re: OT - recovering files with Linux

2007-06-07 Thread Scott Loveless
Doesn't matter to me anymore.  Files are recovered, Ubuntu is installed, I can 
print over the network, and Lightzone can open PEFs from the K10.  Life is good 
without Billy and the gang.

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From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Back when the US was prosecuting Microsoft for monopolistic practices US 
> Gov. requirements were that contractors, suppliers and agencies were to 
> use some flavor of Unix.  Unfortunately after that episode was finished 
> all was forgiven.  On top of that I'd bet just about every country in 
> the world is using Windows, and 90% of all commercial enterprises world 
> wide as well.  Microsoft created the original hooks used by most spywear 
> for similar purposes (and now gives away band aids to while not really 
> fixing the problems).  They are truly an evil organization. Microsoft 
> proves that over and over again. Unfortunately being evil by itself 
> isn't against the law. 
> 
> mike wilson wrote:
> >> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Date: 2007/06/06 Wed PM 09:55:10 GMT
> >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >> Subject: Re: OT - recovering files with Linux
> >>
> >> Looked.  It's too late now, I read the rest and I'm just very, very, 
> >> pissed.
> >>
> >> 
> >
> > Vista certainly seems to have great potential for terrorism purposes.  One 
> report of a "leaky" device causes worldwide revocation of that device during 
> updates?  I suspect that, with artificially generated reports on about a 
> dozen 
> different video cards, you could shut down most of the USA government 
> computer 
> network, once it's on Vista.  Brilliant.
> >
> >
> >   
> >>>>> On 6/6/07, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   
> >>>>>   
> >>>>>> Neither of my computers will even run that resource hog. Guess I am 
> lucky.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>> I'd say no sane person would run Vista anyway. A well-known computer
> >>>>> security expert recently did an analysis of some of the costs:
> >>>>> http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html
> >>>>>   
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Re: OT - recovering files with Linux

2007-06-07 Thread P. J. Alling
Back when the US was prosecuting Microsoft for monopolistic practices US 
Gov. requirements were that contractors, suppliers and agencies were to 
use some flavor of Unix.  Unfortunately after that episode was finished 
all was forgiven.  On top of that I'd bet just about every country in 
the world is using Windows, and 90% of all commercial enterprises world 
wide as well.  Microsoft created the original hooks used by most spywear 
for similar purposes (and now gives away band aids to while not really 
fixing the problems).  They are truly an evil organization. Microsoft 
proves that over and over again. Unfortunately being evil by itself 
isn't against the law. 

mike wilson wrote:
>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 2007/06/06 Wed PM 09:55:10 GMT
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> Subject: Re: OT - recovering files with Linux
>>
>> Looked.  It's too late now, I read the rest and I'm just very, very, pissed.
>>
>> 
>
> Vista certainly seems to have great potential for terrorism purposes.  One 
> report of a "leaky" device causes worldwide revocation of that device during 
> updates?  I suspect that, with artificially generated reports on about a 
> dozen different video cards, you could shut down most of the USA government 
> computer network, once it's on Vista.  Brilliant.
>
>
>   
>>>>> On 6/6/07, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>>>   
>>>>>> Neither of my computers will even run that resource hog. Guess I am 
>>>>>> lucky.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> I'd say no sane person would run Vista anyway. A well-known computer
>>>>> security expert recently did an analysis of some of the costs:
>>>>> http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html
>>>>>   
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Re: OT - recovering files with Linux

2007-06-07 Thread mike wilson

> 
> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/06/06 Wed PM 09:55:10 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: OT - recovering files with Linux
> 
> Looked.  It's too late now, I read the rest and I'm just very, very, pissed.
> 

Vista certainly seems to have great potential for terrorism purposes.  One 
report of a "leaky" device causes worldwide revocation of that device during 
updates?  I suspect that, with artificially generated reports on about a dozen 
different video cards, you could shut down most of the USA government computer 
network, once it's on Vista.  Brilliant.

   
> >>> On 6/6/07, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>> Neither of my computers will even run that resource hog. Guess I am 
> >>>> lucky.
> >>>>
> >>>> 
> >>> I'd say no sane person would run Vista anyway. A well-known computer
> >>> security expert recently did an analysis of some of the costs:
> >>> http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html



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Re: OT - recovering files with Linux

2007-06-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Jun 6, 2007, at 2:38 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

> Lightzone for Linux looks great but it works a lot different to  
> other image editing programs - haven't quite got comfortable with  
> it yet but I'm working on it.

I have LightZone Basic as a secondary editor for use with Lightroom.  
I like the zone finder and its adjustment model for some things,  
primarily when working on monochrome renderings. The fact that it can  
also process RAW files and apply selective edits at the RAW level is  
a big plus, nets some advantage when neither Lightroom nor Camera Raw  
can do exactly the right thing.

Godfrey

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Re: OT - recovering files with Linux

2007-06-06 Thread P. J. Alling
It's actually worse than that.  It's as if J.D. Rockefeller managed to 
get control of both the Energy and Transportation industries at the same 
time.  His descendants would be king in all but name today, unless they 
decided to abolish the federal government and take the titles for 
themselves.  This is purely evil much the way all bureaucrats become 
evil when small minds with little imagination gain too much power.

graywolf wrote:
> I only skimmed the article. Seems like we are seeing Billy Boys usual screw 
> the consumer, woo big business attitude taken to extremes. He may have shot 
> himself in the foot this time. But you and never underestimate the consumers 
> lack of awareness...
>
> I really need to go back to Linux or some form of Unix.
>
>   


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Re: OT - recovering files with Linux

2007-06-06 Thread graywolf
I only skimmed the article. Seems like we are seeing Billy Boys usual screw the 
consumer, woo big business attitude taken to extremes. He may have shot himself 
in the foot this time. But you and never underestimate the consumers lack of 
awareness...

I really need to go back to Linux or some form of Unix.

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P. J. Alling wrote:
> Looked.  It's too late now, I read the rest and I'm just very, very, pissed.
> 
> mike wilson wrote:
>> P. J. Alling wrote:
>>   
>>> I skimmed about a third of the way through it and became depressed 
>>> enough to kill myself, (If only I could remember where I stored the 
>>> ammunition).
>>> 
>> Cupboard under the stairs.
>>
>> Glad to help.
>>
>>   
>>> Sandy Harris wrote:
>>>
>>> 
 On 6/6/07, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

   
> Neither of my computers will even run that resource hog. Guess I am lucky.
>
> 
 I'd say no sane person would run Vista anyway. A well-known computer
 security expert recently did an analysis of some of the costs:
 http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html

  
   
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>>   
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Re: OT - recovering files with Linux

2007-06-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Looked.  It's too late now, I read the rest and I'm just very, very, pissed.

mike wilson wrote:
> P. J. Alling wrote:
>   
>> I skimmed about a third of the way through it and became depressed 
>> enough to kill myself, (If only I could remember where I stored the 
>> ammunition).
>> 
>
> Cupboard under the stairs.
>
> Glad to help.
>
>   
>> Sandy Harris wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> On 6/6/07, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>   
 Neither of my computers will even run that resource hog. Guess I am lucky.

 
>>> I'd say no sane person would run Vista anyway. A well-known computer
>>> security expert recently did an analysis of some of the costs:
>>> http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html
>>>
>>>  
>>>   
>>
>> 
>
>
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Re: OT - recovering files with Linux

2007-06-06 Thread Brian Walters
Probably not a bad idea.

I'm now dual booting Windows XP and Ubuntu (using the Ubuntu partition for 
everything except image editing and image cataloguing)

Lightzone for Linux looks great but it works a lot different to other image 
editing programs - haven't quite got comfortable with it yet but I'm working on 
it.


Cheers

Brian

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Quoting Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I may install Ubuntu when this is all done, leaving the recovery 
> partition intact just in case I want to go back to vista later on. 
> 
> LightZone for Linux is looking snazzy.
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Re: OT - recovering files with Linux

2007-06-06 Thread mike wilson
P. J. Alling wrote:
> I skimmed about a third of the way through it and became depressed 
> enough to kill myself, (If only I could remember where I stored the 
> ammunition).

Cupboard under the stairs.

Glad to help.

> 
> Sandy Harris wrote:
> 
>>On 6/6/07, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>>Neither of my computers will even run that resource hog. Guess I am lucky.
>>>
>>
>>I'd say no sane person would run Vista anyway. A well-known computer
>>security expert recently did an analysis of some of the costs:
>>http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html
>>
>>  
> 
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RE: OT - recovering files with Linux

2007-06-06 Thread Don Sanderson
Hey Scott!

I'd like to say this isn't an ad, but it sort of is, since I'm quite
involved with developing the server version of this stuff.
Before you load something else, give this a try:

http://www.pclinuxos.com/

I much prefer it over most others, including 'buntu.
Even as an old Windows guy I don't care for Vista.
Especially the price tag for the expanded versions.

Don


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> 
> 
> Last night the laptop shot itself in the foot.  I'm surfing along, 
> reading my mail, whatever, and explorer crashed.  Then my other apps 
> started shutting down.  Then windows tells me that it's encountered a 
> critical error and must shut down.  Now it won't boot.  At all.  Safe 
> mode doesn't work either.  Compaq was nice enough to install a few 
> recovery utilities on a separate partition.  No luck.  Seems the only 
> option I have is restoring the laptop to its original condition.  20 GB 
> of photos and other files are located on that machine.  At least 6GB 
> from GFM.  I really didn't want to lose this stuff.  I hate Vista.
> 
> So I burned an Ubuntu Live CD, booted the laptop with it and installed 
> Samba.  It's running now, sending my files over the network to another 
> PC.  God, I hate Vista.  I'm just glad this happened here and not on the 
> mountain.
> 
> Have I mentioned that I'm not fond of Vista?
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Re: OT - recovering files with Linux

2007-06-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Scott Loveless wrote:

>Mark Roberts wrote:
>>
>> Sounds like a hard drive going south
>>   
>That's what I thought, too, but the recovery partition is still 
>working. 

Still could be a bad sector in the main partition. I had that on a 
laptop once. Occasionally it would refuse to boot with horrible 
"unable-to-read-this-incredibly-vital-system-file-of-some-sort" errors.

> One of the tools is a hard drive diagnostic.  No errors 
>found.  

Don't trust the cheapie utilities that come with the computer. They 
couldn't find anything wrong with the laptop i just mentioned. When I 
repartitioned with Partition Commander and did a full surface scan the 
problem went away permanently (though I still back up by OS drive with 
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Re: OT - recovering files with Linux

2007-06-06 Thread P. J. Alling
I skimmed about a third of the way through it and became depressed 
enough to kill myself, (If only I could remember where I stored the 
ammunition).

Sandy Harris wrote:
> On 6/6/07, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> Neither of my computers will even run that resource hog. Guess I am lucky.
>> 
>
> I'd say no sane person would run Vista anyway. A well-known computer
> security expert recently did an analysis of some of the costs:
> http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html
>
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Re: OT - recovering files with Linux

2007-06-06 Thread David J Brooks
As a side note, it seems my 5 in 1 card reader was causing the no boot
problem i had last month, its fine now that i remove the reader after
using it.

Could be those memory sticks then.

BTW do you remember how that one speakers CS3 kept crashing. Bet ya he
likes Vista to.:-)

Dave

On 6/6/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Doug Franklin wrote:
> > Scott Loveless wrote:
> >
> >
> >> I'm beginning to think it's a software issue.  Perhaps the
> >> crash corrupted a startup service or something like that.  We'll see.
> >>
> >
> > Keep an eye on it.  My desktop machine did that recently and it was a
> > fragged memory stick that was causing it.
> >
> >
> Will do.  There's a 512MB factory stick in it and a 1GB stick I put in
> just after buying the laptop.  The whole setup is only a few months old,
> but I can understand memory failure causing problems like this.
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Re: OT - recovering files with Linux

2007-06-06 Thread P. J. Alling
I had a similar problem on my Win2k box.  (I partitioned the partitioned 
the phisical drive into 4 virtual drives).  The system partition became 
scrambled, but the others remained readable.  A PITA but I was able to 
backup all the data from the other partitions.  Ran the manufactures 
system diagnostics on the drive as well as windows.  Everything came 
back as copacetic.  I figured it was a software glitch, so I 
re-partitioned the HD and reinstalled Win2K, (and all the software from 
scratch).  However I had an old 8GB drive sitting around collecting dust 
so I ghosted the new system partition onto it, to get a live backup.  
I'm glad I did.  The installation functioned for all of two weeks and 
failed in much the same way.  I backed up any new data and attempted a 
to re partition the HD, it's unreadable, there was a failure in the 
drives on board electronics,  none of the diagnostics tools picked up 
the problem until after the catastrophic failure.  It makes a nice 
paperweight though. 

Scott Loveless wrote:
> Mark Roberts wrote:
>   
>> Scott Loveless wrote:
>>
>>   
>> 
>>> Last night the laptop shot itself in the foot.  I'm surfing along, 
>>> reading my mail, whatever, and explorer crashed.  Then my other apps 
>>> started shutting down.  Then windows tells me that it's encountered a 
>>> critical error and must shut down.  Now it won't boot.  At all.  Safe 
>>> mode doesn't work either.  Compaq was nice enough to install a few 
>>> recovery utilities on a separate partition.  No luck.  Seems the only 
>>> option I have is restoring the laptop to its original condition.  20 GB 
>>> of photos and other files are located on that machine.  At least 6GB 
>>> 
>>>   
>> >from GFM.  I really didn't want to lose this stuff.  I hate Vista.
>>
>> Sounds like a hard drive going south
>>
>>
>>   
>> 
> That's what I thought, too, but the recovery partition is still 
> working.  One of the tools is a hard drive diagnostic.  No errors 
> found.  The file backup utilities on that partition need a drive large 
> enough to copy to - it's not smart enough to let me swap out usb pen 
> drives or burn to CD.  System restore (also available from the recovery 
> partition) wasn't enabled.  I'm not sure if it wasn't on by default or 
> if I turned it off at some point.  Right now Ubuntu is reading the drive 
> just fine.  I'm beginning to think it's a software issue.  Perhaps the 
> crash corrupted a startup service or something like that.  We'll see.
>
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Re: OT - recovering files with Linux

2007-06-06 Thread P. J. Alling
I does doesn't it.

Mark Roberts wrote:
> Scott Loveless wrote:
>
>   
>> Last night the laptop shot itself in the foot.  I'm surfing along, 
>> reading my mail, whatever, and explorer crashed.  Then my other apps 
>> started shutting down.  Then windows tells me that it's encountered a 
>> critical error and must shut down.  Now it won't boot.  At all.  Safe 
>> mode doesn't work either.  Compaq was nice enough to install a few 
>> recovery utilities on a separate partition.  No luck.  Seems the only 
>> option I have is restoring the laptop to its original condition.  20 GB 
>> of photos and other files are located on that machine.  At least 6GB 
>> 
> >from GFM.  I really didn't want to lose this stuff.  I hate Vista.
>
> Sounds like a hard drive going south
>
>
>   


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Re: OT - recovering files with Linux

2007-06-06 Thread Scott Loveless
Doug Franklin wrote:
> Scott Loveless wrote:
>
>   
>> I'm beginning to think it's a software issue.  Perhaps the 
>> crash corrupted a startup service or something like that.  We'll see.
>> 
>
> Keep an eye on it.  My desktop machine did that recently and it was a
> fragged memory stick that was causing it.
>
>   
Will do.  There's a 512MB factory stick in it and a 1GB stick I put in 
just after buying the laptop.  The whole setup is only a few months old, 
but I can understand memory failure causing problems like this.

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Re: OT - recovering files with Linux

2007-06-06 Thread P. J. Alling
No I don't think you mentioned that, or maybe I was dozing...

Scott Loveless wrote:
> Last night the laptop shot itself in the foot.  I'm surfing along, 
> reading my mail, whatever, and explorer crashed.  Then my other apps 
> started shutting down.  Then windows tells me that it's encountered a 
> critical error and must shut down.  Now it won't boot.  At all.  Safe 
> mode doesn't work either.  Compaq was nice enough to install a few 
> recovery utilities on a separate partition.  No luck.  Seems the only 
> option I have is restoring the laptop to its original condition.  20 GB 
> of photos and other files are located on that machine.  At least 6GB 
> from GFM.  I really didn't want to lose this stuff.  I hate Vista.
>
> So I burned an Ubuntu Live CD, booted the laptop with it and installed 
> Samba.  It's running now, sending my files over the network to another 
> PC.  God, I hate Vista.  I'm just glad this happened here and not on the 
> mountain.
>
> Have I mentioned that I'm not fond of Vista?
>
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Re: OT - recovering files with Linux

2007-06-06 Thread Scott Loveless
Angel Ramos wrote:
> Well I had a similar story with a just new from the box HP DV9702US.  I 
> worked with it for a while and decided that the web camera that came 
> integrated with it was a junk.  So I donwloaded the Vista drivers from 
> the internet for my external camera, installed it and worked with it for 
> a while, turned the pc off, and next day it will not boot up.  Somewhere 
> in the boot process the famous BSOD, came up! ( Blue Screen Of Death).   
> The operating system could not boot up and a critical error was been 
> dumped from memory to disk.  I found that Vista in that computer comes 
> by default with the restore point creation disabled.  So I tried every 
> way to boot up the damn thing until I was able once to boot up, I 
> quickly went to the HP Full restore option and I was able to get the PC 
> back as new like 2 days eralier when I bought it. After that I did the 
> back up DVD operating system DVD's. 
>   
A backup plan is in the works.  I'm thinking something along the lines 
of a NAS device with plenty of room for new drives.
>  Now I plan to install Photoshop CS3 and Lightroom.  I do know that LR 
> is not Vista ready yet but do know of some people using it.  This 
>   
I've run Lightroom on this machine without problems (other than those 
between my ears).
> portable pc has the option for installing a secon HD and I am going that 
> way.   I will keep that second HD for putting my files in it ( read the 
> pictures files) in case this happens again!  I will backup to 2 external 
> HD and burn DVDs with the keepers raw images.  I think Vista is not 
> stable enough yet.
>   
No kidding.  

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Re: OT - recovering files with Linux

2007-06-06 Thread Angel Ramos
Well I had a similar story with a just new from the box HP DV9702US.  I 
worked with it for a while and decided that the web camera that came 
integrated with it was a junk.  So I donwloaded the Vista drivers from 
the internet for my external camera, installed it and worked with it for 
a while, turned the pc off, and next day it will not boot up.  Somewhere 
in the boot process the famous BSOD, came up! ( Blue Screen Of Death).   
The operating system could not boot up and a critical error was been 
dumped from memory to disk.  I found that Vista in that computer comes 
by default with the restore point creation disabled.  So I tried every 
way to boot up the damn thing until I was able once to boot up, I 
quickly went to the HP Full restore option and I was able to get the PC 
back as new like 2 days eralier when I bought it. After that I did the 
back up DVD operating system DVD's. 
 Now I plan to install Photoshop CS3 and Lightroom.  I do know that LR 
is not Vista ready yet but do know of some people using it.  This 
portable pc has the option for installing a secon HD and I am going that 
way.   I will keep that second HD for putting my files in it ( read the 
pictures files) in case this happens again!  I will backup to 2 external 
HD and burn DVDs with the keepers raw images.  I think Vista is not 
stable enough yet.

Angel Ramos
Arecibo, Puerto Rico


Scott Loveless wrote:
> Mark Roberts wrote:
>   
>> Scott Loveless wrote:
>>
>>   
>> 
>>> Last night the laptop shot itself in the foot.  I'm surfing along, 
>>> reading my mail, whatever, and explorer crashed.  Then my other apps 
>>> started shutting down.  Then windows tells me that it's encountered a 
>>> critical error and must shut down.  Now it won't boot.  At all.  Safe 
>>> mode doesn't work either.  Compaq was nice enough to install a few 
>>> recovery utilities on a separate partition.  No luck.  Seems the only 
>>> option I have is restoring the laptop to its original condition.  20 GB 
>>> of photos and other files are located on that machine.  At least 6GB 
>>> 
>>>   
>> >from GFM.  I really didn't want to lose this stuff.  I hate Vista.
>>
>> Sounds like a hard drive going south
>>
>>
>>   
>> 
> That's what I thought, too, but the recovery partition is still 
> working.  One of the tools is a hard drive diagnostic.  No errors 
> found.  The file backup utilities on that partition need a drive large 
> enough to copy to - it's not smart enough to let me swap out usb pen 
> drives or burn to CD.  System restore (also available from the recovery 
> partition) wasn't enabled.  I'm not sure if it wasn't on by default or 
> if I turned it off at some point.  Right now Ubuntu is reading the drive 
> just fine.  I'm beginning to think it's a software issue.  Perhaps the 
> crash corrupted a startup service or something like that.  We'll see.
>
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Re: OT - recovering files with Linux

2007-06-06 Thread Sandy Harris
On 6/6/07, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Neither of my computers will even run that resource hog. Guess I am lucky.

I'd say no sane person would run Vista anyway. A well-known computer
security expert recently did an analysis of some of the costs:
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html

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Re: OT - recovering files with Linux

2007-06-06 Thread Doug Franklin
Scott Loveless wrote:

> I'm beginning to think it's a software issue.  Perhaps the 
> crash corrupted a startup service or something like that.  We'll see.

Keep an eye on it.  My desktop machine did that recently and it was a
fragged memory stick that was causing it.

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Re: OT - recovering files with Linux

2007-06-06 Thread Adam Maas
graywolf wrote:
> Neither of my computers will even run that resource hog. Guess I am lucky.
> 

I'm actually liking Vista better than XP. Apart from the moronic Defrag, 
it's less whiny and dumbed down (once you turn UAC off) and the new 
Explorer and Photo Gallery apps are a huge win over the crap that comes 
with XP.

That said, my Vista box will soon dual-boot Ubuntu.

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Re: OT - recovering files with Linux

2007-06-06 Thread Scott Loveless
Mark Roberts wrote:
> Scott Loveless wrote:
>
>   
>> Last night the laptop shot itself in the foot.  I'm surfing along, 
>> reading my mail, whatever, and explorer crashed.  Then my other apps 
>> started shutting down.  Then windows tells me that it's encountered a 
>> critical error and must shut down.  Now it won't boot.  At all.  Safe 
>> mode doesn't work either.  Compaq was nice enough to install a few 
>> recovery utilities on a separate partition.  No luck.  Seems the only 
>> option I have is restoring the laptop to its original condition.  20 GB 
>> of photos and other files are located on that machine.  At least 6GB 
>> 
> >from GFM.  I really didn't want to lose this stuff.  I hate Vista.
>
> Sounds like a hard drive going south
>
>
>   
That's what I thought, too, but the recovery partition is still 
working.  One of the tools is a hard drive diagnostic.  No errors 
found.  The file backup utilities on that partition need a drive large 
enough to copy to - it's not smart enough to let me swap out usb pen 
drives or burn to CD.  System restore (also available from the recovery 
partition) wasn't enabled.  I'm not sure if it wasn't on by default or 
if I turned it off at some point.  Right now Ubuntu is reading the drive 
just fine.  I'm beginning to think it's a software issue.  Perhaps the 
crash corrupted a startup service or something like that.  We'll see.

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Re: OT - recovering files with Linux

2007-06-06 Thread graywolf
Neither of my computers will even run that resource hog. Guess I am lucky.

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Scott Loveless wrote:
> Last night the laptop shot itself in the foot.  I'm surfing along, 
> reading my mail, whatever, and explorer crashed.  Then my other apps 
> started shutting down.  Then windows tells me that it's encountered a 
> critical error and must shut down.  Now it won't boot.  At all.  Safe 
> mode doesn't work either.  Compaq was nice enough to install a few 
> recovery utilities on a separate partition.  No luck.  Seems the only 
> option I have is restoring the laptop to its original condition.  20 GB 
> of photos and other files are located on that machine.  At least 6GB 
> from GFM.  I really didn't want to lose this stuff.  I hate Vista.
> 
> So I burned an Ubuntu Live CD, booted the laptop with it and installed 
> Samba.  It's running now, sending my files over the network to another 
> PC.  God, I hate Vista.  I'm just glad this happened here and not on the 
> mountain.
> 
> Have I mentioned that I'm not fond of Vista?
> 

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Re: OT - recovering files with Linux

2007-06-06 Thread Scott Loveless
Toralf Lund wrote:
> So, the Linux setup is able to read all the files? God for you. I 
> recently used the same method to rescue all the pictures a friend of 
> mine had taken during the last few years (stored on his harddisk only, 
> no backup...) Except I pulled out the disk and connected it to another 
> PC where Linux was installed already...
>
> - Toralf
>
>   
I would have done that, but I don't have an adapter for a 2.5 inch 
drive.  This method is working, but it's literally going to take all day 
over a wireless b network.  Ugh.  Better than the alternative, though.

I may install Ubuntu when this is all done, leaving the recovery 
partition intact just in case I want to go back to vista later on.  
LightZone for Linux is looking snazzy.

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Re: OT - recovering files with Linux

2007-06-06 Thread Toralf Lund

> Last night the laptop shot itself in the foot.  I'm surfing along, 
> reading my mail, whatever, and explorer crashed.  Then my other apps 
> started shutting down.  Then windows tells me that it's encountered a 
> critical error and must shut down.  Now it won't boot. [ ... ]
>
> So I burned an Ubuntu Live CD, booted the laptop with it and installed 
> Samba.  It's running now, sending my files over the network to another 
> PC.  
So, the Linux setup is able to read all the files? God for you. I 
recently used the same method to rescue all the pictures a friend of 
mine had taken during the last few years (stored on his harddisk only, 
no backup...) Except I pulled out the disk and connected it to another 
PC where Linux was installed already...

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Re: OT - recovering files with Linux

2007-06-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Scott Loveless wrote:

>Last night the laptop shot itself in the foot.  I'm surfing along, 
>reading my mail, whatever, and explorer crashed.  Then my other apps 
>started shutting down.  Then windows tells me that it's encountered a 
>critical error and must shut down.  Now it won't boot.  At all.  Safe 
>mode doesn't work either.  Compaq was nice enough to install a few 
>recovery utilities on a separate partition.  No luck.  Seems the only 
>option I have is restoring the laptop to its original condition.  20 GB 
>of photos and other files are located on that machine.  At least 6GB 
>from GFM.  I really didn't want to lose this stuff.  I hate Vista.

Sounds like a hard drive going south


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OT - recovering files with Linux

2007-06-06 Thread Scott Loveless
Last night the laptop shot itself in the foot.  I'm surfing along, 
reading my mail, whatever, and explorer crashed.  Then my other apps 
started shutting down.  Then windows tells me that it's encountered a 
critical error and must shut down.  Now it won't boot.  At all.  Safe 
mode doesn't work either.  Compaq was nice enough to install a few 
recovery utilities on a separate partition.  No luck.  Seems the only 
option I have is restoring the laptop to its original condition.  20 GB 
of photos and other files are located on that machine.  At least 6GB 
from GFM.  I really didn't want to lose this stuff.  I hate Vista.

So I burned an Ubuntu Live CD, booted the laptop with it and installed 
Samba.  It's running now, sending my files over the network to another 
PC.  God, I hate Vista.  I'm just glad this happened here and not on the 
mountain.

Have I mentioned that I'm not fond of Vista?

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