Re: OT PESOs - Film is king, the king is dead

[mike wilson]

 Graydon  wrote: 
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 02:32:30PM +0100, mike wilson scripsit: [snip]
> > > >>> 
> > > >>>
> > > >> Does that thing has a screen in a rotary switch of some kind?
> > > >>  
> > > > LCD display.  Similar layout on the MZ-S.
> > > > http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/film_MZ-ZX/mzzxS.html
> > > >
> > > 
> > > You know you could have just posted a link to the MZ-D URL.
> > > 
> > > http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html
> > 
> > ???  Graydon was asking what the "screen" was, shown in the rotary
> > switch of the D.  I pointed out that it was an LCD display and
> > referred to a URL for the MZ-S that had a clearer view of a similar
> > feature. 
> 
> That's a very interesting design choice, I must say.  And I can even see
> how it would be useful, but the idea of wanting to do that in the first
> place makes my head hurt.
> 
> But thanks for the clearer view!

Just to be clear: the bezel (ring around the outside) rotates and changes the 
parameter(s) shown in the display.  The display remains orientated in the way 
you would expect to be able to read it from behind the camera.

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Re: OT PESOs - Film is king, the king is dead

[John Francis]

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 08:50:37PM -0400, Graydon wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 02:32:30PM +0100, mike wilson scripsit: [snip]
> > 
> > ???  Graydon was asking what the "screen" was, shown in the rotary
> > switch of the D.  I pointed out that it was an LCD display and
> > referred to a URL for the MZ-S that had a clearer view of a similar
> > feature. 
> 
> That's a very interesting design choice, I must say.  And I can even see
> how it would be useful, but the idea of wanting to do that in the first
> place makes my head hurt.

When I first got one on my MZ-S I just thought of it as a fairly obvious
modern-day equivalent of the little cut-out windows on some older bodies
(often used for things like film rating; sometimes for shutter speed).
There's no reason why the LCD display needs to be separate from the dial
when there's only one dial; on the PZ-1p, of course, the single display
serves two thumbwheels.


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Re: OT PESOs - Film is king, the king is dead

[Graydon]

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 02:32:30PM +0100, mike wilson scripsit: [snip]
> > >>> 
> > >>>
> > >> Does that thing has a screen in a rotary switch of some kind?
> > >>  
> > > LCD display.  Similar layout on the MZ-S.
> > > http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/film_MZ-ZX/mzzxS.html
> > >
> > 
> > You know you could have just posted a link to the MZ-D URL.
> > 
> > http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html
> 
> ???  Graydon was asking what the "screen" was, shown in the rotary
> switch of the D.  I pointed out that it was an LCD display and
> referred to a URL for the MZ-S that had a clearer view of a similar
> feature. 

That's a very interesting design choice, I must say.  And I can even see
how it would be useful, but the idea of wanting to do that in the first
place makes my head hurt.

But thanks for the clearer view!

Graydon

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Re: OT PESOs - Film is king, the king is dead

[mike wilson]

 "P. J. Alling"  wrote: 
> On 4/14/2010 3:37 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> >  Graydon  wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 05:32:41PM +0100, Cotty scripsit:
> >>  
> >>> On 12/4/10, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >>>
> >>>
>  the canted top plate
>  makes a lot of sense (especially, I imagine on a 645). I recant
>   
> >>> *sigh*
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>
> >> Does that thing has a screen in a rotary switch of some kind?
> >>  
> > LCD display.  Similar layout on the MZ-S.
> > http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/film_MZ-ZX/mzzxS.html
> >
> 
> You know you could have just posted a link to the MZ-D URL.
> 
> http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html

???  Graydon was asking what the "screen" was, shown in the rotary switch of 
the D.  I pointed out that it was an LCD display and referred to a URL for the 
MZ-S that had a clearer view of a similar feature. 

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Re: OT PESOs - Film is king, the king is dead

[P. J. Alling]

On 4/14/2010 3:37 AM, mike wilson wrote:

 Graydon  wrote:
   

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 05:32:41PM +0100, Cotty scripsit:
 

On 12/4/10, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:

   

the canted top plate
makes a lot of sense (especially, I imagine on a 645). I recant
 

*sigh*


   

Does that thing has a screen in a rotary switch of some kind?
 

LCD display.  Similar layout on the MZ-S.
http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/film_MZ-ZX/mzzxS.html
   


You know you could have just posted a link to the MZ-D URL.

http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html

   

Cotty, you *know* they're going to stick a full frame sensor in the 645D
body and sell it for about 3 kUSD under a name no one could possibly
have predicted.  And we can all have a good thrash about having to buy
medium format lenses for it.
 


   



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Re: OT PESOs - Film is king, the king is dead

[mike wilson]

 Graydon  wrote: 
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 05:32:41PM +0100, Cotty scripsit:
> > On 12/4/10, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:
> > 
> > > the canted top plate
> > >makes a lot of sense (especially, I imagine on a 645). I recant
> > 
> > *sigh*
> > 
> > 
> 
> Does that thing has a screen in a rotary switch of some kind?

LCD display.  Similar layout on the MZ-S.
http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/film_MZ-ZX/mzzxS.html

> 
> Cotty, you *know* they're going to stick a full frame sensor in the 645D
> body and sell it for about 3 kUSD under a name no one could possibly
> have predicted.  And we can all have a good thrash about having to buy
> medium format lenses for it.


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Re: OT PESOs - Film is king, the king is dead

[Graydon]

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 05:32:41PM +0100, Cotty scripsit:
> On 12/4/10, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> > the canted top plate
> >makes a lot of sense (especially, I imagine on a 645). I recant
> 
> *sigh*
> 
> 

Does that thing has a screen in a rotary switch of some kind?

Cotty, you *know* they're going to stick a full frame sensor in the 645D
body and sell it for about 3 kUSD under a name no one could possibly
have predicted.  And we can all have a good thrash about having to buy
medium format lenses for it.

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Re: OT PESOs - Film is king, the king is dead

[Derby Chang]

Oh no. I think CRK are purposely pulling back on their service 
department. They used to be pretty good. Sad. Hope you get it back soon


Completely agree with the ergonomics. The combo of the deep grip, thin 
body and simple dials totally float my boat



John Coyle wrote:

Derby, I've always really liked the MZ-S, finding the ergonomics suited me
perfectly.  Unfortunately, mine blew itself up recently and is now on its
way to Japan for repair, Kennedy's being unable to fix it in Australia!


John in Brisbane



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Subject: OT PESOs - Film is king, the king is dead


Been said, not too original, but I'm enjoying this 
Richard-Strauss-autumn of film.


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_04/10_04_lunchbreak/01.htm
http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_04/10_04_festivalcrowd/01.htm
http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_04/10_04_fouratefive/01.htm

Just picked up an MZ-S. Some distant years ago, I dissed it's looks, 
along with the Rocky Balboa Leica R8. In the flesh, it's quite a 
pleasant camera to hold. Not Stallone-y at all and the canted top plate 
makes a lot of sense (especially, I imagine on a 645). I recant



  



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RE: OT PESOs - Film is king, the king is dead

[John Coyle]

Derby, I've always really liked the MZ-S, finding the ergonomics suited me
perfectly.  Unfortunately, mine blew itself up recently and is now on its
way to Japan for repair, Kennedy's being unable to fix it in Australia!


John in Brisbane



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Been said, not too original, but I'm enjoying this 
Richard-Strauss-autumn of film.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_04/10_04_lunchbreak/01.htm
http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_04/10_04_festivalcrowd/01.htm
http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_04/10_04_fouratefive/01.htm

Just picked up an MZ-S. Some distant years ago, I dissed it's looks, 
along with the Rocky Balboa Leica R8. In the flesh, it's quite a 
pleasant camera to hold. Not Stallone-y at all and the canted top plate 
makes a lot of sense (especially, I imagine on a 645). I recant


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Re: OT PESOs - Film is king, the king is dead

[John Francis]

If the sensor had worked reliably, maybe.

As it is, it turned out to be a loser.

(and I still prefer the flexibilitty of the two-wheel interface)


On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 03:24:58PM -0400, Steven Desjardins wrote:
> 6 MP, FF.  It would have been a keeper.
> 
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Cotty  wrote:
> > On 12/4/10, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >
> >> the canted top plate
> >>makes a lot of sense (especially, I imagine on a 645). I recant
> >
> > *sigh*
> >
> > 
> >
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> >
> > Cheers,
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Re: OT PESOs - Film is king, the king is dead

[Steven Desjardins]

6 MP, FF.  It would have been a keeper.

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Cotty  wrote:
> On 12/4/10, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>> the canted top plate
>>makes a lot of sense (especially, I imagine on a 645). I recant
>
> *sigh*
>
> 
>
> --
>
>
> Cheers,
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Re: OT PESOs - Film is king, the king is dead

[Cotty]

On 12/4/10, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:

> the canted top plate
>makes a lot of sense (especially, I imagine on a 645). I recant

*sigh*



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Re: OT PESOs - Film is king, the king is dead

[Cotty]

On 12/4/10, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:

>the canted top plate
>makes a lot of sense (especially, I imagine on a 645). I recant



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Re: OT PESOs - Film is king, the king is dead

[David J Brooks]

Love all three

Dave

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Derby Chang  wrote:
>
> Been said, not too original, but I'm enjoying this Richard-Strauss-autumn of
> film.
>
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_04/10_04_lunchbreak/01.htm
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_04/10_04_festivalcrowd/01.htm
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_04/10_04_fouratefive/01.htm
>
> Just picked up an MZ-S. Some distant years ago, I dissed it's looks, along
> with the Rocky Balboa Leica R8. In the flesh, it's quite a pleasant camera
> to hold. Not Stallone-y at all and the canted top plate makes a lot of sense
> (especially, I imagine on a 645). I recant
>
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OT PESOs - Film is king, the king is dead

[Derby Chang]

Been said, not too original, but I'm enjoying this 
Richard-Strauss-autumn of film.


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_04/10_04_lunchbreak/01.htm
http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_04/10_04_festivalcrowd/01.htm
http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_04/10_04_fouratefive/01.htm

Just picked up an MZ-S. Some distant years ago, I dissed it's looks, 
along with the Rocky Balboa Leica R8. In the flesh, it's quite a 
pleasant camera to hold. Not Stallone-y at all and the canted top plate 
makes a lot of sense (especially, I imagine on a 645). I recant



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