Re: OT SD the future?

2007-06-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
For the record, that's an incorrect quote. Rob Studdert said that in  
a post that included a quote from one of my responses, but you didn't  
include anything of my quote here. :-)

grz
Godfrey

On Jun 19, 2007, at 12:05 PM, Amita Guha wrote:

> Interesting. I just bought my first Olympus on Sunday (the SP-550 UZ)
> so I'm entering the world of XD for the first time. I guess I'll see
> how it goes.
>
> Amita
>
>> On 17/06/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I have seen many xD cards
>> rendered inoperable (in camera only) though transfer
>> corruptions/accidental formats, it's a very poor system.


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Re: OT SD the future?

2007-06-19 Thread Amita Guha
Interesting. I just bought my first Olympus on Sunday (the SP-550 UZ)
so I'm entering the world of XD for the first time. I guess I'll see
how it goes.

Amita

> On 17/06/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have seen many xD cards
> rendered inoperable (in camera only) though transfer
> corruptions/accidental formats, it's a very poor system.

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Re: OT SD the future?

2007-06-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/6/07, wendy beard, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>CF is the pro format?
>My 1Dmk2 takes CF and SD. Does that mean it's only a semi-pro camera ;-)
>
>W

The SD card slot in your 1D is so you can help out Pentax users by
reformatting their cards

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Re: OT SD the future?

2007-06-18 Thread William Robb

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> 
> CF is the pro format?
> My 1Dmk2 takes CF and SD. Does that mean it's only a semi-pro camera ;-)

I think they call those "bridge cameras"
WW

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Re: OT SD the future?

2007-06-18 Thread wendy beard
On 6/16/07, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, XD is their semi-proprietary format, and CF is the pro format.

CF is the pro format?
My 1Dmk2 takes CF and SD. Does that mean it's only a semi-pro camera ;-)

W

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Re: OT SD the future?

2007-06-16 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 17/06/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Olympus and Fuji continue to use xD ... Don't know why other than
> stubbornness. There is no advantage to xD over the myriad of SD
> compatible formats at all.

I can't figure why they persist either, probably similar reasons that
Sony persist with that hideous memory stick. I have seen many xD cards
rendered inoperable (in camera only) though transfer
corruptions/accidental formats, it's a very poor system. SD would be
far preferable as a second card choice. What I find interesting though
is that Olympus still consider it pertinent to include CF on a current
body (unlike Pentax). Maybe they want it to appeal to professionals as
a second more portable system?

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Re: OT SD the future?

2007-06-16 Thread John Francis

Ohm he shouldn't.   But that decision should be based on
the $800 part of the total cost, not on the $20.

On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 03:37:15PM -0400, graywolf wrote:
> Well, if his istD does what he needs it to do why should he spend that $820? 
> 
> My pocket pc, laptop, and camera all take CF. Now the camera also takes XD 
> cards, the laptop also takes pcmcia cards, and the pocket pc also takes SD 
> cards: while the laptop and desktop take usb-flash as well. Which would you 
> standardize on?
> 
> By the way, I probably have the most expensive card reader on the list. I use 
> the IBM Thinkpad over the wireless network to read CF into the desktop. Think 
> of it a $3000 card reader . Of course I only paid $300 for the used 
> Thinkpad but that still is a pretty expensive card reader; luckily I have 
> other uses for it as well.
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> John Francis wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 08:59:15AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> I opted to stick with my *ist D because I had a few CF cards.  I didn't
> >> want to have to spend more money to get SD cards to use on a newer Pentax.
> > 
> > Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.  A 2GB 150x card in now, what, $20?
> > Saving that kind of money is definitely a reason to forego any possible
> > improvements in camera technology.  Especially since the only plausible
> > step-up from a *ist-D at present is the K10D, which is going to set you
> > back $800 or so.
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: OT SD the future?

2007-06-16 Thread graywolf
Well, if his istD does what he needs it to do why should he spend that $820? 

My pocket pc, laptop, and camera all take CF. Now the camera also takes XD 
cards, the laptop also takes pcmcia cards, and the pocket pc also takes SD 
cards: while the laptop and desktop take usb-flash as well. Which would you 
standardize on?

By the way, I probably have the most expensive card reader on the list. I use 
the IBM Thinkpad over the wireless network to read CF into the desktop. Think 
of it a $3000 card reader . Of course I only paid $300 for the used 
Thinkpad but that still is a pretty expensive card reader; luckily I have other 
uses for it as well.

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John Francis wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 08:59:15AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I opted to stick with my *ist D because I had a few CF cards.  I didn't
>> want to have to spend more money to get SD cards to use on a newer Pentax.
> 
> Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.  A 2GB 150x card in now, what, $20?
> Saving that kind of money is definitely a reason to forego any possible
> improvements in camera technology.  Especially since the only plausible
> step-up from a *ist-D at present is the K10D, which is going to set you
> back $800 or so.
> 
> 
> 

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Re: OT SD the future?

2007-06-16 Thread Jim Apilado
Yeah,  my *ist D still does the job I got it for when it came out.   
No reason to spend more $$ to upgrade.  Plus,  I still use my classic  
Pentax silver ESII and my PZ-1p 35mm cameras.
No need for SD cards on those cameras.


On Jun 16, 2007, at 11:59 AM, John Francis wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 08:59:15AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I opted to stick with my *ist D because I had a few CF cards.  I  
>> didn't
>> want to have to spend more money to get SD cards to use on a newer  
>> Pentax.
>
> Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.  A 2GB 150x card in now, what, $20?
> Saving that kind of money is definitely a reason to forego any  
> possible
> improvements in camera technology.  Especially since the only  
> plausible
> step-up from a *ist-D at present is the K10D, which is going to set  
> you
> back $800 or so.
>
>
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Re: OT SD the future?

2007-06-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Jun 15, 2007, at 10:56 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote:

> I see that Olympus managed to shoehorn both an xD Picture card and
> Compact Flash (Type I and II) memory cards into their tiny E-410.
> Didn't anyone tell them that they should have used SD?

Olympus and Fuji continue to use xD ... Don't know why other than  
stubbornness. There is no advantage to xD over the myriad of SD  
compatible formats at all.

Godfrey

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Re: OT SD the future?

2007-06-16 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 08:59:15AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I opted to stick with my *ist D because I had a few CF cards.  I didn't
> want to have to spend more money to get SD cards to use on a newer Pentax.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.  A 2GB 150x card in now, what, $20?
Saving that kind of money is definitely a reason to forego any possible
improvements in camera technology.  Especially since the only plausible
step-up from a *ist-D at present is the K10D, which is going to set you
back $800 or so.



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Re: OT SD the future?

2007-06-16 Thread japilado
I opted to stick with my *ist D because I had a few CF cards.  I didn't
want to have to spend more money to get SD cards to use on a newer Pentax.
  Plus,  I have a Canon D60 that uses CF cards.  (I believe Canon still
uses CF cards for their dslr's.) SD storage may have come down in price, 
but I would have to spend more money.

Jim A.






> I see that Olympus managed to shoehorn both an xD Picture card and
> Compact Flash (Type I and II) memory cards into their tiny E-410.
> Didn't anyone tell them that they should have used SD?
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Re: OT SD the future?

2007-06-16 Thread graywolf
Geeze! What a maroon, that of course should be, "my C-5050Z".

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graywolf wrote:
> Well, XD is their semi-proprietary format, and CF is the pro format. It is 
> what me CD-5550Z has and it is OK, although I would prefer SD and CF. But the 
> XD is 1/2 the size of an SD card. Now that they are reasonably cheap I should 
> get a larger one and just leave it in the camera as permanent memory and use 
> the CF as a transfer card.  
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Re: OT SD the future?

2007-06-16 Thread graywolf
Well, XD is their semi-proprietary format, and CF is the pro format. It is what 
me CD-5550Z has and it is OK, although I would prefer SD and CF. But the XD is 
1/2 the size of an SD card. Now that they are reasonably cheap I should get a 
larger one and just leave it in the camera as permanent memory and use the CF 
as a transfer card.  

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Digital Image Studio wrote:
> I see that Olympus managed to shoehorn both an xD Picture card and
> Compact Flash (Type I and II) memory cards into their tiny E-410.
> Didn't anyone tell them that they should have used SD?
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OT SD the future?

2007-06-15 Thread Digital Image Studio
I see that Olympus managed to shoehorn both an xD Picture card and
Compact Flash (Type I and II) memory cards into their tiny E-410.
Didn't anyone tell them that they should have used SD?

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