Re: OT The GUI grows up
On Feb 9, 2006, at 4:10 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: What does "B/W hungry" mean? What is BB? Acronyms for band-width and broad-band, I mistakenly thought they would be obvious in the context of the message. Summer reruns already? Bob
Re: OT The GUI grows up
In a message dated 2/10/2006 6:52:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The requirement Mike mentions refers to the actual software. The "demo" is > simply a large QuickTime video clip that'll play just fine on your hardware. > :) > > Tim Yup. Except that it didn't. keith === Ditto. Marnie aka Doe
Re: OT The GUI grows up
Tim Sherburne wrote: On 2/9/06 11:44, keith_w wrote: mike wilson wrote: system requirement: Video card with liquid Nitrogen cooling. Hah! I believe that! On my machine, the demo stops at about 45% complete. Mac G4 MDD, 1.25 Ghz, 1 Gb RAM, OS 10.4.4. keith The requirement Mike mentions refers to the actual software. The "demo" is simply a large QuickTime video clip that'll play just fine on your hardware. :) Tim Yup. Except that it didn't. keith
Re: OT The GUI grows up
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 08:16:18PM +, mike wilson wrote: > John Francis wrote: > >On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 02:59:28PM +, mike wilson wrote: > > > >>>From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>Date: 2006/02/09 Thu PM 02:20:45 GMT > >>>To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > >>>Subject: Re: OT The GUI grows up > >>> > >>>Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>Bob (former Theramin player) > >>> > >>>Now *there's* a title you don't see very often! > >>> > >>>Side note: If anyone remembers the late, great Bonzo Dog Band, they used > >>>to perform with an instrument they called the Electric Leg. It was a > >>>theramin built into the leg of an old department store mannequin. > >> > >>And a trouser press. > > > > > >And a plastic funnel at the end of a hosepipe ... > > > >I saw the Bonzo Dog perform Urban Spaceman (and other songs of that era) > >in a small venue (basically a pub/club). > > > >The Electric Leg got into the name of a band (Roger Ruskin Spear and his > >Giant Electric Leg, if memory serves), and the trouser press was used as > >the name of a track (and was mentioned in the vocals). > > > >One thing I hadn't realised, until I heard the original a few years ago, > >was just how good a copy of the '20s/'30s songs they had managed on tracks > >like "Mr & Mrs Mickey Mouse". > > > > They started as a trad jazz band with a twist. Contemporaries of the > Alberts and Temperance Seven. I saw the Bonzos, Scaffold and three of > the Liverpool poets at one event. I think I'm still in recovery. Ah, yes. Roger McGough. Come live with me, and be my love - I keep a flat for mating. There's half an hour before the bus. Shall we do it while we're waiting? I saw him on a few occasions - in the mid '70s I was working in Manchester, but spending most of my weekends with friends in Liverpool, so I saw quite a bit of the Liverpool club & pub scene. We even went to the cavern once or twice - long after the Beatles had left, but still while it was at the original site (later on it moved across the road to bigger premises).
Re: OT The GUI grows up
John Francis wrote: On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 02:59:28PM +, mike wilson wrote: From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2006/02/09 Thu PM 02:20:45 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT The GUI grows up Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bob (former Theramin player) Now *there's* a title you don't see very often! Side note: If anyone remembers the late, great Bonzo Dog Band, they used to perform with an instrument they called the Electric Leg. It was a theramin built into the leg of an old department store mannequin. And a trouser press. And a plastic funnel at the end of a hosepipe ... I saw the Bonzo Dog perform Urban Spaceman (and other songs of that era) in a small venue (basically a pub/club). The Electric Leg got into the name of a band (Roger Ruskin Spear and his Giant Electric Leg, if memory serves), and the trouser press was used as the name of a track (and was mentioned in the vocals). One thing I hadn't realised, until I heard the original a few years ago, was just how good a copy of the '20s/'30s songs they had managed on tracks like "Mr & Mrs Mickey Mouse". They started as a trad jazz band with a twist. Contemporaries of the Alberts and Temperance Seven. I saw the Bonzos, Scaffold and three of the Liverpool poets at one event. I think I'm still in recovery. m
Re: OT The GUI grows up
On 2/9/06 11:44, keith_w wrote: > mike wilson wrote: > >> system requirement: >> Video card with liquid Nitrogen cooling. > > Hah! I believe that! > On my machine, the demo stops at about 45% complete. > Mac G4 MDD, 1.25 Ghz, 1 Gb RAM, OS 10.4.4. > > keith The requirement Mike mentions refers to the actual software. The "demo" is simply a large QuickTime video clip that'll play just fine on your hardware. :) Tim
Re: OT The GUI grows up
Bob Shell wrote: On Feb 9, 2006, at 8:57 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: Yeah, but it's only 2D. I want a holographic projection that I can interact with in 3D. Ah, the same guy is developing 3D projection technologies too, smart cookie: http://mrl.nyu.edu/~jhan/holodust/index.html Cool!! Bob (former Theramin player) Now, why doesn't THAT surprise me? ;-) keith
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mike wilson wrote: From: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2006/02/09 Thu AM 10:05:13 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT The GUI grows up Cool toy. Dave system requirement: Video card with liquid Nitrogen cooling. Hah! I believe that! On my machine, the demo stops at about 45% complete. Mac G4 MDD, 1.25 Ghz, 1 Gb RAM, OS 10.4.4. keith On 2/9/06, Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The following page contains a video demo of some interface technology that could really change the way we work with computers especially as photographers. It's a bit B/W hungry as it contains an embedded movie but if you have BB check it out, about 2 mins into the video you'lll see what I mean :-) http://mrl.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirtouch/ Cheers, Rob Studdert
Re: Re: OT The GUI grows up
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 02:59:28PM +, mike wilson wrote: > > > > > From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 2006/02/09 Thu PM 02:20:45 GMT > > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > Subject: Re: OT The GUI grows up > > > > Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >Bob (former Theramin player) > > > > Now *there's* a title you don't see very often! > > > > Side note: If anyone remembers the late, great Bonzo Dog Band, they used > > to perform with an instrument they called the Electric Leg. It was a > > theramin built into the leg of an old department store mannequin. > > And a trouser press. And a plastic funnel at the end of a hosepipe ... I saw the Bonzo Dog perform Urban Spaceman (and other songs of that era) in a small venue (basically a pub/club). The Electric Leg got into the name of a band (Roger Ruskin Spear and his Giant Electric Leg, if memory serves), and the trouser press was used as the name of a track (and was mentioned in the vocals). One thing I hadn't realised, until I heard the original a few years ago, was just how good a copy of the '20s/'30s songs they had managed on tracks like "Mr & Mrs Mickey Mouse".
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Hi! > If you are bored with ordinary keyboards, check out Datahand. If > they didn't cost so much, I'd get one. > > http://datahand.com/ Bob, ordinary keyboards do not bore me, they rather hurt my hands, literally so... I have this touch typist wrist-ache syndrom. Specifically my right hand is most ache prone. The MS keyboard (one with raised middle portion and keys divided into two halves) seems to solve my problem for past 5 years... Ideally, I'd prefer a ball based keyboard... One which wouldn't require me to bend my wrists in order to put my fingers onto keys... In fact, I even downloaded datahand personal manual and swept through it... I dislike this idea... It is more of the same, though in very sofisticated packaging... -- Boris
Re: Re: OT The GUI grows up
> > From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/02/09 Thu PM 02:20:45 GMT > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: OT The GUI grows up > > Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Bob (former Theramin player) > > Now *there's* a title you don't see very often! > > Side note: If anyone remembers the late, great Bonzo Dog Band, they used > to perform with an instrument they called the Electric Leg. It was a > theramin built into the leg of an old department store mannequin. > P.S. I've got a couple of semiconductor Theremin circuit diagrams. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Re: OT The GUI grows up
> > From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/02/09 Thu PM 02:20:45 GMT > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: OT The GUI grows up > > Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Bob (former Theramin player) > > Now *there's* a title you don't see very often! > > Side note: If anyone remembers the late, great Bonzo Dog Band, they used > to perform with an instrument they called the Electric Leg. It was a > theramin built into the leg of an old department store mannequin. And a trouser press. > > > -- > Mark Roberts > Photography and writing > www.robertstech.com > > - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
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On Feb 9, 2006, at 9:37 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Rob, I stared at my screen totally entranced... This is probably *the next big thing*... I feel so simplistic now, touchtyping my reply on MS ergonomic kbd... It is so passe ;-). If you are bored with ordinary keyboards, check out Datahand. If they didn't cost so much, I'd get one. http://datahand.com/ Bob "The first man to compare the cheeks of a young woman to a rose was obviously a poet; the first to repeat it was possibly an idiot." - Salvador Dali
Re: OT The GUI grows up
On Feb 9, 2006, at 9:20 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bob (former Theramin player) Now *there's* a title you don't see very often! Side note: If anyone remembers the late, great Bonzo Dog Band, they used to perform with an instrument they called the Electric Leg. It was a theramin built into the leg of an old department store mannequin. There was a band called Lothar and the Hand People. Lothar was a Theramin. Bob
Re: OT The GUI grows up
On Feb 9, 2006, at 1:34, Rob Studdert wrote: The following page contains a video demo of some interface technology that could really change the way we work with computers especially as photographers. It's a bit B/W hungry as it contains an embedded movie but if you have BB check it out, about 2 mins into the video you'lll see what I mean :-) http://mrl.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirtouch/ First thing that came to mind was the police computer interface on "Minority Report"! -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org
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Hi! > system requirement: > Video card with liquid Nitrogen cooling. > > > The following page contains a video demo of some interface technology that > > > could really change the way we work with computers especially as > > > photographers. > > > > > > It's a bit B/W hungry as it contains an embedded movie but if you have BB > > > check > > > it out, about 2 mins into the video you'lll see what I mean :-) > > > > > > http://mrl.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirtouch/ Mike, this kind of simple things will eventually be overcome ;-). Rob, I stared at my screen totally entranced... This is probably *the next big thing*... I feel so simplistic now, touchtyping my reply on MS ergonomic kbd... It is so passe ;-). -- Boris
Re: OT The GUI grows up
Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Bob (former Theramin player) Now *there's* a title you don't see very often! Side note: If anyone remembers the late, great Bonzo Dog Band, they used to perform with an instrument they called the Electric Leg. It was a theramin built into the leg of an old department store mannequin. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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On 9 Feb 2006 at 8:31, Bob Shell wrote: > > On Feb 9, 2006, at 7:53 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > Gee Bob, that's hilarious. I've no idea what you're talking > > about ... glad > > you could get a chuckle out of it though ... > > > http://www.ianardo.com/ Interesting, and though I didn't have a clue Answers and Wiki came to the rescue. http://www.answers.com/topic/bbw?method=6 Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: OT The GUI grows up
On Feb 9, 2006, at 8:57 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: Yeah, but it's only 2D. I want a holographic projection that I can interact with in 3D. Ah, the same guy is developing 3D projection technologies too, smart cookie: http://mrl.nyu.edu/~jhan/holodust/index.html Cool!! Bob (former Theramin player)
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On Feb 9, 2006, at 7:53 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Gee Bob, that's hilarious. I've no idea what you're talking about ... glad you could get a chuckle out of it though ... http://www.ianardo.com/ Bob
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> > From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/02/09 Thu PM 01:34:43 GMT > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: Re: OT The GUI grows up > > On 9 Feb 2006 at 11:04, mike wilson wrote: > > > system requirement: > > Video card with liquid Nitrogen cooling. > > Well at that scale at the moment maybe but scaled down to desk-top dimensions > and in a few years time with the current rate of hardware development it > could > potentially be just another GUI interface option. It's so much more flexible > than a single point device that it's difficult to imagine just how many other > ways it could potentially be employed. To my mind it's the first truly > significant computer interface advance since the introduction of the mouse, > exciting stuff. > I agree. I certainly want it. Whether I can convince even myself that I need it. m - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
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On 9 Feb 2006 at 7:46, Bob Shell wrote: > Yeah, but it's only 2D. I want a holographic projection that I can > interact with in 3D. Ah, the same guy is developing 3D projection technologies too, smart cookie: http://mrl.nyu.edu/~jhan/holodust/index.html :-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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Gee Bob, that's hilarious. I've no idea what you're talking about ... glad you could get a chuckle out of it though ... Shel > [Original Message] > From: Bob Shell > On Feb 9, 2006, at 7:25 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > Probably to many people, but I'm somewhat of a dunce when it comes to > > computer jargon. > > > > Shel > > > > I just thought he was talking about BBW ;-) > > Bob
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On Feb 9, 2006, at 8:34 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: Well at that scale at the moment maybe but scaled down to desk-top dimensions and in a few years time with the current rate of hardware development it could potentially be just another GUI interface option. It's so much more flexible than a single point device that it's difficult to imagine just how many other ways it could potentially be employed. To my mind it's the first truly significant computer interface advance since the introduction of the mouse, exciting stuff. Yeah, but it's only 2D. I want a holographic projection that I can interact with in 3D. Futurist Bob
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On 2/9/06, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's an eye opener! The various applications demo'ed in the video > could change everybody's interface with the computer, not just > photographers. I couldn't help thinking this was way ahead of what we > see 'imagined' in movies. > Regards, Bob S. > It strongly reminded me of the computer interface in the movie "Minority Report" Dave
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On Feb 9, 2006, at 7:25 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Probably to many people, but I'm somewhat of a dunce when it comes to computer jargon. Shel I just thought he was talking about BBW ;-) Bob
Re: Re: OT The GUI grows up
On 9 Feb 2006 at 11:04, mike wilson wrote: > system requirement: > Video card with liquid Nitrogen cooling. Well at that scale at the moment maybe but scaled down to desk-top dimensions and in a few years time with the current rate of hardware development it could potentially be just another GUI interface option. It's so much more flexible than a single point device that it's difficult to imagine just how many other ways it could potentially be employed. To my mind it's the first truly significant computer interface advance since the introduction of the mouse, exciting stuff. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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Probably to many people, but I'm somewhat of a dunce when it comes to computer jargon. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Rob Studdert > On 8 Feb 2006 at 23:44, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > What does "B/W hungry" mean? What is BB? > > Acronyms for band-width and broad-band, I mistakenly thought they would be > obvious in the context of the message.
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On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 23:44:44 -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > What does "B/W hungry" mean? What is BB? B/W == bandwidth BB == broadband TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
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That's an eye opener! The various applications demo'ed in the video could change everybody's interface with the computer, not just photographers. I couldn't help thinking this was way ahead of what we see 'imagined' in movies. Regards, Bob S. On 2/9/06, Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The following page contains a video demo of some interface technology that > could really change the way we work with computers especially as > photographers. > > It's a bit B/W hungry as it contains an embedded movie but if you have BB > check > it out, about 2 mins into the video you'lll see what I mean :-) > > http://mrl.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirtouch/ > > Cheers, > > > Rob Studdert > HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA > Tel +61-2-9554-4110 > UTC(GMT) +10 Hours > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ > Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 > >
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> > From: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/02/09 Thu AM 10:05:13 GMT > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: OT The GUI grows up > > Cool toy. > > Dave system requirement: Video card with liquid Nitrogen cooling. > > On 2/9/06, Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The following page contains a video demo of some interface technology that > > could really change the way we work with computers especially as > > photographers. > > > > It's a bit B/W hungry as it contains an embedded movie but if you have BB > > check > > it out, about 2 mins into the video you'lll see what I mean :-) > > > > http://mrl.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirtouch/ > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Rob Studdert > > HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA > > Tel +61-2-9554-4110 > > UTC(GMT) +10 Hours > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ > > Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 > > > > > > - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
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Cool toy. Dave On 2/9/06, Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The following page contains a video demo of some interface technology that > could really change the way we work with computers especially as > photographers. > > It's a bit B/W hungry as it contains an embedded movie but if you have BB > check > it out, about 2 mins into the video you'lll see what I mean :-) > > http://mrl.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirtouch/ > > Cheers, > > > Rob Studdert > HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA > Tel +61-2-9554-4110 > UTC(GMT) +10 Hours > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ > Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 > >
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On 8 Feb 2006 at 23:44, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > What does "B/W hungry" mean? What is BB? Acronyms for band-width and broad-band, I mistakenly thought they would be obvious in the context of the message. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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BW hungry: Bandwidth hungry BB: Broadband --- Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What does "B/W hungry" mean? What is BB? > > Shel > > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Rob Studdert > > > The following page contains a video demo of some > interface technology > that > > could really change the way we work with computers > especially as > photographers. > > > > It's a bit B/W hungry as it contains an embedded > movie but if you have BB > check > > it out, about 2 mins into the video you'lll see > what I mean :-) > > > > http://mrl.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirtouch/ > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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What does "B/W hungry" mean? What is BB? Shel > [Original Message] > From: Rob Studdert > The following page contains a video demo of some interface technology that > could really change the way we work with computers especially as photographers. > > It's a bit B/W hungry as it contains an embedded movie but if you have BB check > it out, about 2 mins into the video you'lll see what I mean :-) > > http://mrl.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirtouch/
OT The GUI grows up
The following page contains a video demo of some interface technology that could really change the way we work with computers especially as photographers. It's a bit B/W hungry as it contains an embedded movie but if you have BB check it out, about 2 mins into the video you'lll see what I mean :-) http://mrl.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirtouch/ Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
