Odd behavior - LR 3.4 (on Mac) and DA 35mm f/2.4 AL lens

2011-04-27 Thread Charles Robinson
While there are indeed correction profiles for this lens in LR... and LR finds 
images taken with this lens and applies the corrections properly, LR reports 
this lens (when, say, you filter by metadata) as unknown.

Obviously SOMETHING in LR knows that it's this particular lens.  

Is anyone else seeing this behavior?

 -Charles

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Re: Odd behavior - LR 3.4 (on Mac) and DA 35mm f/2.4 AL lens

2011-04-27 Thread Stan Halpin
Sounds vaguely familiar to me. It was a while ago, but I think that shots with 
the DA*50-135 are tagged as unknown in the metadata if imported into LR 
before LR had an update that included that lens' information.

stan

On Apr 27, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Charles Robinson wrote:

 While there are indeed correction profiles for this lens in LR... and LR 
 finds images taken with this lens and applies the corrections properly, LR 
 reports this lens (when, say, you filter by metadata) as unknown.
 
 Obviously SOMETHING in LR knows that it's this particular lens.  
 
 Is anyone else seeing this behavior?
 
 -Charles
 
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Re: Odd behavior - LR 3.4 (on Mac) and DA 35mm f/2.4 AL lens

2011-04-27 Thread Charles Robinson
On Apr 27, 2011, at 11:04, Stan Halpin wrote:

 Sounds vaguely familiar to me. It was a while ago, but I think that shots 
 with the DA*50-135 are tagged as unknown in the metadata if imported into 
 LR before LR had an update that included that lens' information.
 

Ah, I hadn't thought of that.  I'll test with a new image and see if it is 
identified correctly upon import via 3.4...

 -Charles

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Re: Odd behavior - LR 3.4 (on Mac) and DA 35mm f/2.4 AL lens

2011-04-27 Thread Charles Robinson
On Apr 27, 2011, at 11:17, Charles Robinson wrote:

 On Apr 27, 2011, at 11:04, Stan Halpin wrote:
 
 Sounds vaguely familiar to me. It was a while ago, but I think that shots 
 with the DA*50-135 are tagged as unknown in the metadata if imported into 
 LR before LR had an update that included that lens' information.
 
 
 Ah, I hadn't thought of that.  I'll test with a new image and see if it is 
 identified correctly upon import via 3.4...
 

And... huzzah!  It works!

 -Charles

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Re: Odd behavior - LR 3.4 (on Mac) and DA 35mm f/2.4 AL lens

2011-04-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The catalog's metadata needs to be updated.

- select All Photographs in the Library module, Catalog panel
- Set Grid view
- use the filter bar, Metadata switch, set the first column to Lens,
and click on Unknown
- Select all
- use the Metadata-Save metadata to file... command to write out
all keywords and other IPTC metadata to the file system for this set
of files
- use the Metadata-Read metadata from file... command to refresh
all the metadata for this set of files

Lightroom will re-read the original files' metadata and the metadata
you output from the catalog this way, integrating and updating all
original image files with the newly incorporated lens names. It will
not refresh the metadata shown by virtual copies, however, so if you
use virtual copies in your workflow you'll still have some unknown
lens even for image files which it now knows about.

Of course, if you're persistent, you can fix that too ... ;-)
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Re: Odd behavior - LR 3.4 (on Mac) and DA 35mm f/2.4 AL lens

2011-04-27 Thread Charles Robinson
On Apr 27, 2011, at 12:46, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 The catalog's metadata needs to be updated.
 
 - select All Photographs in the Library module, Catalog panel
 - Set Grid view
 - use the filter bar, Metadata switch, set the first column to Lens,
 and click on Unknown
 - Select all
 - use the Metadata-Save metadata to file... command to write out
 all keywords and other IPTC metadata to the file system for this set
 of files
 - use the Metadata-Read metadata from file... command to refresh
 all the metadata for this set of files
 

I did something like that, Godfrey - but there was an option on the Metadata 
menu, when the affected files were selected, to simply Update DNG Preview and 
Metadata.

Did I break anything by doing it that way?  It *looks* like all of my info is 
still there...

It sounds like your way involves a lot more fiddly disc activity, but if 
there's a better reason to do it that way I'm all ears!

 -Charles

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Re: Odd behavior - LR 3.4 (on Mac) and DA 35mm f/2.4 AL lens

2011-04-27 Thread Bruce Walker

On 11-04-27 2:57 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:

On Apr 27, 2011, at 12:46, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

The catalog's metadata needs to be updated.

- select All Photographs in the Library module, Catalog panel
- Set Grid view
- use the filter bar, Metadata switch, set the first column to Lens,
and click on Unknown
- Select all
- use the Metadata-Save metadata to file... command to write out
all keywords and other IPTC metadata to the file system for this set
of files
- use the Metadata-Read metadata from file... command to refresh
all the metadata for this set of files


I did something like that, Godfrey - but there was an option on the Metadata menu, when 
the affected files were selected, to simply Update DNG Preview and Metadata.

Did I break anything by doing it that way?  It *looks* like all of my info is 
still there...

It sounds like your way involves a lot more fiddly disc activity, but if 
there's a better reason to do it that way I'm all ears!

  -Charles


Well I followed Godfrey's method and my unknowns dropped to 756 from 
over 4800 (out of over 25000 images).  Slow process though; lots of file 
ops.  I confirmed that the remaining unknowns are various m42's I've 
shot with, and virtual copies of DNGs.


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Re: Odd behavior - LR 3.4 (on Mac) and DA 35mm f/2.4 AL lens

2011-04-27 Thread Charles Robinson
On Apr 27, 2011, at 14:14, Bruce Walker wrote:

 On 11-04-27 2:57 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:
 On Apr 27, 2011, at 12:46, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 The catalog's metadata needs to be updated.
 
 - select All Photographs in the Library module, Catalog panel
 - Set Grid view
 - use the filter bar, Metadata switch, set the first column to Lens,
 and click on Unknown
 - Select all
 - use the Metadata-Save metadata to file... command to write out
 all keywords and other IPTC metadata to the file system for this set
 of files
 - use the Metadata-Read metadata from file... command to refresh
 all the metadata for this set of files
 
 I did something like that, Godfrey - but there was an option on the 
 Metadata menu, when the affected files were selected, to simply Update 
 DNG Preview and Metadata.
 
 Did I break anything by doing it that way?  It *looks* like all of my info 
 is still there...
 
 It sounds like your way involves a lot more fiddly disc activity, but if 
 there's a better reason to do it that way I'm all ears!
 
  -Charles
 
 Well I followed Godfrey's method and my unknowns dropped to 756 from over 
 4800 (out of over 25000 images).  Slow process though; lots of file ops.  I 
 confirmed that the remaining unknowns are various m42's I've shot with, and 
 virtual copies of DNGs.
 

Yeah, I narrowed mine down a bit first - I knew I'd purchased the 35mm in 2011, 
so I selected: 2011,  K-7 images, 35mm focal length, unknown lens!

 -Charles

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Re: Odd behavior - LR 3.4 (on Mac) and DA 35mm f/2.4 AL lens

2011-04-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I haven't used the Update DNG ... command in quite a while. The
original implementation seemed a little buggy but that was way back in
v1.x.

My concern is that I have a lot of time invested in metadata
annotations: I want to be sure that when I re-read the metadata,
what's in the catalog is embedded and integrated with the refresh from
the files. I know this method works ... I've just not tested the other
one. :-)

On Wednesday, April 27, 2011, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 On Apr 27, 2011, at 14:14, Bruce Walker wrote:

 On 11-04-27 2:57 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:
 On Apr 27, 2011, at 12:46, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 The catalog's metadata needs to be updated.

 - select All Photographs in the Library module, Catalog panel
 - Set Grid view
 - use the filter bar, Metadata switch, set the first column to Lens,
 and click on Unknown
 - Select all
 - use the Metadata-Save metadata to file... command to write out
 all keywords and other IPTC metadata to the file system for this set
 of files
 - use the Metadata-Read metadata from file... command to refresh
 all the metadata for this set of files

 I did something like that, Godfrey - but there was an option on the 
 Metadata menu, when the affected files were selected, to simply Update 
 DNG Preview and Metadata.

 Did I break anything by doing it that way?  It *looks* like all of my info 
 is still there...

 It sounds like your way involves a lot more fiddly disc activity, but if 
 there's a better reason to do it that way I'm all ears!

  -Charles

 Well I followed Godfrey's method and my unknowns dropped to 756 from over 
 4800 (out of over 25000 images).  Slow process though; lots of file ops.  I 
 confirmed that the remaining unknowns are various m42's I've shot with, and 
 virtual copies of DNGs.


 Yeah, I narrowed mine down a bit first - I knew I'd purchased the 35mm in 
 2011, so I selected: 2011,  K-7 images, 35mm focal length, unknown lens!

  -Charles

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