Off Topic thread limit?
I'm certainly not going to suggest some ridiculous rule that limits permissible subjects on this list, but I've noticed a trend for threads on various topics to rapidly devolve to the point that the produce heat, but no light. Lets face it, if you haven't convinced someone of your point of view after a few posts, you aren't going to. Internet arguments, special olympics. 'nuff said. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off Topic thread limit?
On Mar 20, 2011, at 5:34 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > I'm certainly not going to suggest some ridiculous rule that limits > permissible subjects on this list, but I've noticed a trend for threads on > various topics to rapidly devolve to the point that the produce heat, but no > light. Lets face it, if you haven't convinced someone of your point of view > after a few posts, you aren't going to. > > Internet arguments, special olympics. 'nuff said. And as soon as I post the above, I see the following link: http://twentytwowords.com/2011/03/15/a-flowchart-to-help-you-determine-if-youre-having-a-rational-discussion/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Off Topic thread limit?
> On Mar 20, 2011, at 5:34 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > I'm certainly not going to suggest some ridiculous rule that limits > permissible subjects on this list, but I've noticed a trend for threads > on various topics to rapidly devolve to the point that the produce > heat, but no light. Lets face it, if you haven't convinced someone of > your point of view after a few posts, you aren't going to. > > Welcome to the internet. Have a nice day. > > Internet arguments, special olympics. 'nuff said. > > And as soon as I post the above, I see the following link: > http://twentytwowords.com/2011/03/15/a-flowchart-to-help-you-determine- > if-youre-having-a-rational-discussion/ Would you like to buy my perpetual motion machine? B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> On Mar 20, 2011, at 5:34 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > I'm certainly not going to suggest some ridiculous rule that limits > permissible subjects on this list, but I've noticed a trend for threads > on various topics to rapidly devolve to the point that the produce > heat, but no light. Lets face it, if you haven't convinced someone of > your point of view after a few posts, you aren't going to. > > > > Internet arguments, special olympics. 'nuff said. > > And as soon as I post the above, I see the following link: > http://twentytwowords.com/2011/03/15/a-flowchart-to-help-you-determine- > if-youre-having-a-rational-discussion/ incidentally, I notice that flowchart about how to hold a rational discussion appears to be hosted on a religious site. Ironic, huh? B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 3/20/2011 2:34 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I'm certainly not going to suggest some ridiculous rule that limits permissible subjects on this list, but I've noticed a trend for threads on various topics to rapidly devolve to the point that the produce heat, but no light. Lets face it, if you haven't convinced someone of your point of view after a few posts, you aren't going to. Internet arguments, special olympics. 'nuff said. Ok, Larry, you called for it. Or like they say in France - "defend yourself"... Let us joust-dot-net... Boris P.S. Interestingly enough in Russian it is the other way around - We say that "sun shines but don't warm" when winter is coming... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You know, guys, it's very important for my personal entertainment hat this thread develop into a heated and irrational argument. I'm just sayin'. On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > On 3/20/2011 2:34 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> >> I'm certainly not going to suggest some ridiculous rule that limits >> permissible subjects on this list, but I've noticed a trend for >> threads on various topics to rapidly devolve to the point that the >> produce heat, but no light. Lets face it, if you haven't convinced >> someone of your point of view after a few posts, you aren't going >> to. >> >> Internet arguments, special olympics. 'nuff said. > > Ok, Larry, you called for it. Or like they say in France - "defend > yourself"... Let us joust-dot-net... > > Boris > > P.S. Interestingly enough in Russian it is the other way around - We say > that "sun shines but don't warm" when winter is coming... > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 3/20/2011 3:58 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: You know, guys, it's very important for my personal entertainment hat this thread develop into a heated and irrational argument. I'm just sayin'. I am sorry to disappoint you, Steve. You see, I meant it as a passing joke, whereas Larry, as he explained off the list, took it as a challenge. But I don't like flame wars, therefore I withdraw. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mar 20, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > And as soon as I post the above, I see the following link: > http://twentytwowords.com/2011/03/15/a-flowchart-to-help-you-determine-if-youre-having-a-rational-discussion/ Good to have in mind, but I'm glad it's not the rule. As the first commenter said, "No discussion in the history of mankind has made it through this flowchart." And by the way, is this topic off topic? -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You're wrong. ;) CW On 3/20/2011 8:34 AM, Larry Colen wrote: I'm certainly not going to suggest some ridiculous rule that limits permissible subjects on this list, but I've noticed a trend for threads on various topics to rapidly devolve to the point that the produce heat, but no light. Lets face it, if you haven't convinced someone of your point of view after a few posts, you aren't going to. Internet arguments, special olympics. 'nuff said. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Cory Waters wrote: > You're wrong. ;) F**k you. cheers, frank, defending his right to be a curmudgeon, especially on this list ;-) -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Now we're talking. -Original Message- From: frank theriault Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 13:57:29 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Off Topic thread limit? On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Cory Waters wrote: > You're wrong. ;) F**k you. cheers, frank, defending his right to be a curmudgeon, especially on this list ;-) -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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frank theriault wrote: >On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Cory Waters wrote: >> You're wrong. ;) > >F**k you. > >cheers, >frank, defending his right to be a curmudgeon, especially on this list > >;-) Well, you're no Bill Robb... -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Larry, all I can say is I've yet to see a single thread on this list that doesn't stop by itself - they all end eventually. and the signal to noise ratio and signal quality on this list are among the best I've seen. in fact PDML is my only list for precisely that reason and I value the opinion of everyone here very much, even of those with whom I disagree from time to time or who don't share my political views. Now I just wish my confidence in my photos would come back up to a level where I'd once again feel entitled to both posting my own and commenting on others. I'm about as deep down in the "all my photos are crap" stage as one can get... 2011/3/20 Larry Colen : > I'm certainly not going to suggest some ridiculous rule that limits > permissible subjects on this list, but I've noticed a trend for threads on > various topics to rapidly devolve to the point that the produce heat, but no > light. Lets face it, if you haven't convinced someone of your point of view > after a few posts, you aren't going to. > > Internet arguments, special olympics. 'nuff said. > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mar 20, 2011, at 11:42 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > frank theriault wrote: > >> On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Cory Waters wrote: >>> You're wrong. ;) >> >> F**k you. >> >> cheers, >> frank, defending his right to be a curmudgeon, especially on this list >> >> ;-) > > Well, you're no Bill Robb... Unless Bill learned to spell from Dave. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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David W. Robbs? Sounds good to me! 2011/3/20 Larry Colen : > > On Mar 20, 2011, at 11:42 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > >> frank theriault wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Cory Waters >>> wrote: You're wrong. ;) >>> >>> F**k you. >>> >>> cheers, >>> frank, defending his right to be a curmudgeon, especially on this list >>> >>> ;-) >> >> Well, you're no Bill Robb... > > Unless Bill learned to spell from Dave. > >> > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2011/3/20 eckinator : > Larry, all I can say is I've yet to see a single thread on this list > that doesn't stop by itself - they all end eventually. Interestingly, the only thread I can remember that virtually went on forever was one about marmots. Sometime in the previous millennium -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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AlunFoto wrote: 2011/3/20 eckinator : Larry, all I can say is I've yet to see a single thread on this list that doesn't stop by itself - they all end eventually. Interestingly, the only thread I can remember that virtually went on forever was one about marmots. Sometime in the previous millennium you mean when they groundhogged the list ?? ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2011/3/20 Ann Sanfedele : >> >> Interestingly, the only thread I can remember that virtually went on >> forever was one about marmots. Sometime in the previous millennium >> > you mean when they groundhogged the list ?? I remember that thread and you're both wrong. It only lasted for a day. Seemed like forever though... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Don't think you were around for that circus, Ecke. It was probably in -96 or -97. I remember being a bit annoyed about having to download all that rubbish over my precious 14400 modem link. IIRC, Doug Brewer and Mark Roberts were two of the more notorious thread prolongers. It also had me seriously puzzled because there apparently was some internal humour going on. Not sure if the archives are available for that long ago. Jostein 2011/3/20 eckinator : > 2011/3/20 Ann Sanfedele : >>> >>> Interestingly, the only thread I can remember that virtually went on >>> forever was one about marmots. Sometime in the previous millennium >>> >> you mean when they groundhogged the list ?? > > I remember that thread and you're both wrong. It only lasted for a > day. Seemed like forever though... > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2011/3/20 AlunFoto : > > Don't think you were around for that circus, Ecke. I definitely wasn't. I was justlookingfor an excuse for a groundhog day movie reference -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > frank theriault wrote: > >>On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Cory Waters wrote: >>> You're wrong. ;) >> >>F**k you. >> >>cheers, >>frank, defending his right to be a curmudgeon, especially on this list >> >>;-) > > Well, you're no Bill Robb... Yes, he is. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ __o _'\<,_ (*)/ (*) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 21 March 2011 05:45, eckinator wrote: > I'm about as deep down in the "all my photos are > crap" stage as one can get... Bugga off, that's my spot. ;-) -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 01:09:31PM +1100, Rob Studdert wrote: > On 21 March 2011 05:45, eckinator wrote: > > I'm about as deep down in the "all my photos are > > crap" stage as one can get... > > Bugga off, that's my spot. You claim exclusive rights to call eckinator's photos crap? Harsh ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 20/03/2011 19:45, eckinator wrote: Larry, all I can say is I've yet to see a single thread on this list that doesn't stop by itself - they all end eventually. and the signal to noise ratio and signal quality on this list are among the best I've seen. in fact PDML is my only list for precisely that reason and I value the opinion of everyone here very much, even of those with whom I disagree from time to time or who don't share my political views. Now I just wish my confidence in my photos would come back up to a level where I'd once again feel entitled to both posting my own and commenting on others. I'm about as deep down in the "all my photos are crap" stage as one can get... Wait until your child picks up your camera and produces superb pictures with it. It's a whole new world of pain and humiliation. 2011/3/20 Larry Colen: I'm certainly not going to suggest some ridiculous rule that limits permissible subjects on this list, but I've noticed a trend for threads on various topics to rapidly devolve to the point that the produce heat, but no light. Lets face it, if you haven't convinced someone of your point of view after a few posts, you aren't going to. Internet arguments, special olympics. 'nuff said. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 3/21/2011 4:46 AM, mike wilson wrote: Wait until your child picks up your camera and produces superb pictures with it. It's a whole new world of pain and humiliation. Nope. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2011/3/21 Boris Liberman : > On 3/21/2011 4:46 AM, mike wilson wrote: >> >> Wait until your child picks up your camera and produces superb pictures >> with it. It's a whole new world of pain and humiliation. > > Nope. Only because your name isn't Smokey =P BTW can anyone recommend a camera for a 3yo? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 21/03/2011, eckinator wrote: > 2011/3/21 Boris Liberman : >> On 3/21/2011 4:46 AM, mike wilson wrote: >>> >>> Wait until your child picks up your camera and produces superb pictures >>> with it. It's a whole new world of pain and humiliation. >> >> Nope. > > Only because your name isn't Smokey =P > BTW can anyone recommend a camera for a 3yo? VTech Kiddizoom or fixed FL equivalent. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 3/21/2011 11:56 AM, eckinator wrote: BTW can anyone recommend a camera for a 3yo? Easy. Any waterproof/shockproof camera with lens that does not come out. If it gets dirty, you'd simply wash it under tap water. Additionally, the kid will have to learn to hold it so that their fingers won't obscure the lens. Galia's first camera was Optio W30. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2011/3/21 Boris Liberman : > > Easy. Any waterproof/shockproof camera with lens that does not come out. If > it gets dirty, you'd simply wash it under tap water. Additionally, the kid > will have to learn to hold it so that their fingers won't obscure the lens. > > Galia's first camera was Optio W30. you mean I have an excuse to buy a successor for the WP I gave to Mum & Dad??? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:48 +0200, "Boris Liberman" wrote: > On 3/21/2011 4:46 AM, mike wilson wrote: > > Wait until your child picks up your camera and produces superb pictures > > with it. It's a whole new world of pain and humiliation. > > Nope. Yup! The little twerp just scored the cover of this journal: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/IRJ-March2011.JPG Cheers Brian Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Scott Loveless >> Well, you're no Bill Robb... > > Yes, he is. F**k you, too. cheers, frank ;-) -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 3/21/2011 1:32 PM, eckinator wrote: 2011/3/21 Boris Liberman: Easy. Any waterproof/shockproof camera with lens that does not come out. If it gets dirty, you'd simply wash it under tap water. Additionally, the kid will have to learn to hold it so that their fingers won't obscure the lens. Galia's first camera was Optio W30. you mean I have an excuse to buy a successor for the WP I gave to Mum& Dad??? Nope. It is that what you mean, but not what I mean. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 21 March 2011 22:32, eckinator wrote: > you mean I have an excuse to buy a successor for the WP I gave to Mum & Dad??? My little guy has the W20, great kid cam, just wash it under the tap to get all the mud, grass and spit off it. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > Nice image; quite an impressive achievement. > > Dan > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Brian Walters wrote: >> On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:48 +0200, "Boris Liberman" >> wrote: >>> On 3/21/2011 4:46 AM, mike wilson wrote: >>> > Wait until your child picks up your camera and produces superb pictures >>> > with it. It's a whole new world of pain and humiliation. >>> >>> Nope. >> >> >> Yup! >> >> The little twerp just scored the cover of this journal: >> >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/IRJ-March2011.JPG >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Brian >> >> Brian Walters >> Western Sydney Australia >> -- >> >> >> -- >> http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > > > -- > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Nice image; quite an impressive achievement. Dan On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Brian Walters wrote: > On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:48 +0200, "Boris Liberman" > wrote: >> On 3/21/2011 4:46 AM, mike wilson wrote: >> > Wait until your child picks up your camera and produces superb pictures >> > with it. It's a whole new world of pain and humiliation. >> >> Nope. > > > Yup! > > The little twerp just scored the cover of this journal: > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/IRJ-March2011.JPG > > > Cheers > > Brian > > Brian Walters > Western Sydney Australia > -- > > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mar 20, 2011, at 7:42, Bob W wrote: >> On Mar 20, 2011, at 5:34 AM, Larry Colen wrote: >> >>> I'm certainly not going to suggest some ridiculous rule that limits >> permissible subjects on this list, but I've noticed a trend for threads >> on various topics to rapidly devolve to the point that the produce >> heat, but no light. Lets face it, if you haven't convinced someone of >> your point of view after a few posts, you aren't going to. >>> >>> Internet arguments, special olympics. 'nuff said. >> >> And as soon as I post the above, I see the following link: >> http://twentytwowords.com/2011/03/15/a-flowchart-to-help-you-determine- >> if-youre-having-a-rational-discussion/ > > incidentally, I notice that flowchart about how to hold a rational > discussion appears to be hosted on a religious site. Ironic, huh? > Even more interesting/amusing is that the original comes from an atheism website: http://atheismresource.com/wp-content/uploads/Debate-Flow-Chart.jpg -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > On Mar 20, 2011, at 11:42 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > >> frank theriault wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Cory Waters >>> wrote: You're wrong. ;) >>> >>> F**k you. >>> >>> cheers, >>> frank, defending his right to be a curmudgeon, especially on this list >>> >>> ;-) >> >> Well, you're no Bill Robb... > > Unless Bill learned to spell from Dave. Every one is welcome to my classes. Dave > >> > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 5:56 PM, eckinator wrote: > > Only because your name isn't Smokey =P > BTW can anyone recommend a camera for a 3yo? My mom handed me my dad's Petri 7s when I was three years old; I would not see another camera until I was five... -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 7:38 AM, frank theriault wrote: > On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Scott Loveless > >>> Well, you're no Bill Robb... >> >> Yes, he is. > > F**k you, too. knarfknarfknarf -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ __o _'\<,_ (*)/ (*) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: > On 21 March 2011 22:32, eckinator wrote: > >> you mean I have an excuse to buy a successor for the WP I gave to Mum & >> Dad??? > > My little guy has the W20, great kid cam, just wash it under the tap > to get all the mud, grass and spit off it. About a year and a half ago we gave our oldest (6 at the time) a WS80. Her grandparents were taking her on a grand adventure to Hawaii and we wanted to be sure she could take pictures absolutely anywhere. It went to the beach every day. It went snorkeling. It got left out in the rain at least once. Since then, it's been camping, dropped in a river, dropped on the driveway, kicked across the floor, stepped on and buried in the snow. It goes on hikes, is used to photograph Barbie fashion shows and frequently takes a bath. The only damage - a couple of superficial scratches on the LCD. Best kid camera ever. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ __o _'\<,_ (*)/ (*) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> >>> I'm certainly not going to suggest some ridiculous rule that limits > >> permissible subjects on this list, but I've noticed a trend for > threads > >> on various topics to rapidly devolve to the point that the produce > >> heat, but no light. Lets face it, if you haven't convinced someone > of > >> your point of view after a few posts, you aren't going to. > >>> > >>> Internet arguments, special olympics. 'nuff said. > >> > >> And as soon as I post the above, I see the following link: > >> http://twentytwowords.com/2011/03/15/a-flowchart-to-help-you- > determine- > >> if-youre-having-a-rational-discussion/ > > > > incidentally, I notice that flowchart about how to hold a rational > > discussion appears to be hosted on a religious site. Ironic, huh? > > > > Even more interesting/amusing is that the original comes from an > atheism website: > > http://atheismresource.com/wp-content/uploads/Debate-Flow-Chart.jpg > > -Charles Looks like bullshit knows no frontier. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mar 21, 2011, at 2:14 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: > About a year and a half ago we gave our oldest (6 at the time) a WS80. > Her grandparents were taking her on a grand adventure to Hawaii and > we wanted to be sure she could take pictures absolutely anywhere. It > went to the beach every day. It went snorkeling. It got left out in > the rain at least once. > > Since then, it's been camping, dropped in a river, dropped on the > driveway, kicked across the floor, stepped on and buried in the snow. > It goes on hikes, is used to photograph Barbie fashion shows and > frequently takes a bath. The only damage - a couple of superficial > scratches on the LCD. I'd love to see some of her photos. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 21/3/11, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed: >My little guy has the W20, great kid cam, just wash it under the tap >to get all the mud, grass and spit off it. I should consider this camera. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mar 20, 2011, at 11:45 , eckinator wrote: > I'm about as deep down in the "all my photos are > crap" stage as one can get... Lookin' up at ya!! Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com "Gaudeamus igitur, juvenes dum sumus..." http://tinyurl.com/ndmfhb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mar 21, 2011, at 02:56 , eckinator wrote: > 2011/3/21 Boris Liberman : >> On 3/21/2011 4:46 AM, mike wilson wrote: >>> >>> Wait until your child picks up your camera and produces superb pictures >>> with it. It's a whole new world of pain and humiliation. >> >> Nope. > > Only because your name isn't Smokey =P > BTW can anyone recommend a camera for a 3yo? Nikon or Canon, any model. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com The Big Bang was silent, and invisible in it's beginning moments. — from the Pentaxian's thoughts on particle physics, so far. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2011/3/22 Joseph McAllister : > >> BTW can anyone recommend a camera for a 3yo? > > Nikon or Canon, any model. So D3x is actually short for "Digital for any 3 year old" then? And D300s is one that can be used by hundreds of them? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Believe it or not, I really *DO* try to stay out of the OT political threads. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You are speaking of your twerp? Very nice shot ... lets get with the parental pride here, Brian ann Brian Walters wrote: On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:48 +0200, "Boris Liberman" wrote: On 3/21/2011 4:46 AM, mike wilson wrote: Wait until your child picks up your camera and produces superb pictures with it. It's a whole new world of pain and humiliation. Nope. Yup! The little twerp just scored the cover of this journal: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/IRJ-March2011.JPG Cheers Brian Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 21:16 -0400, "Ann Sanfedele" wrote: > You are speaking of your twerp? Very nice shot ... lets get with the > parental pride here, Brian I suppose 'little' wasn't the correct adjective. He's 36, but he'll always be a 'little twerp' to me Yes, there is parental pride there but he's a much better photographer than I am and I don't want him to get a swelled head! Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > > ann > > Brian Walters wrote: > > >On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:48 +0200, "Boris Liberman" > >wrote: > > > > > >>On 3/21/2011 4:46 AM, mike wilson wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Wait until your child picks up your camera and produces superb pictures > >>>with it. It's a whole new world of pain and humiliation. > >>> > >>> > >>Nope. > >> > >> > > > > > >Yup! > > > >The little twerp just scored the cover of this journal: > > > >http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/IRJ-March2011.JPG > > > > > >Cheers > > > >Brian > > > >Brian Walters > >Western Sydney Australia > > > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ah but does he shoot Pentax??? :-) anyway its a lovely cover ann Brian Walters wrote: On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 21:16 -0400, "Ann Sanfedele" wrote: You are speaking of your twerp? Very nice shot ... lets get with the parental pride here, Brian I suppose 'little' wasn't the correct adjective. He's 36, but he'll always be a 'little twerp' to me Yes, there is parental pride there but he's a much better photographer than I am and I don't want him to get a swelled head! Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ ann Brian Walters wrote: On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:48 +0200, "Boris Liberman" wrote: On 3/21/2011 4:46 AM, mike wilson wrote: Wait until your child picks up your camera and produces superb pictures with it. It's a whole new world of pain and humiliation. Nope. Yup! The little twerp just scored the cover of this journal: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/IRJ-March2011.JPG Cheers Brian Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 00:20 -0400, "Ann Sanfedele" wrote: > Ah but does he shoot Pentax??? :-) > Yes and no. I think the cover was shot with his *istDL. He also has a K20D but his kit includes a couple of Panasonics, a Fuji and (sigh, where have I failed?) an iPhone, which seems to be getting a lot of photographic use. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > anyway its a lovely cover > ann > > Brian Walters wrote: > > >On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 21:16 -0400, "Ann Sanfedele" > >wrote: > > > > > >>You are speaking of your twerp? Very nice shot ... lets get with the > >>parental pride here, Brian > >> > >> > > > > > >I suppose 'little' wasn't the correct adjective. He's 36, but he'll > >always be a 'little twerp' to me > > > >Yes, there is parental pride there but he's a much better photographer > >than I am and I don't want him to get a swelled head! > > > > > > > >Cheers > > > >Brian > > > >++ > >Brian Walters > >Western Sydney Australia > >http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > > > > > > > > > >>ann > >> > >>Brian Walters wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:48 +0200, "Boris Liberman" > >>>wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On 3/21/2011 4:46 AM, mike wilson wrote: > > > > > >Wait until your child picks up your camera and produces superb pictures > >with it. It's a whole new world of pain and humiliation. > > > > > > > > > Nope. > > > > > >>>Yup! > >>> > >>>The little twerp just scored the cover of this journal: > >>> > >>>http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/IRJ-March2011.JPG > >>> > >>> > >>>Cheers > >>> > >>>Brian > >>> > >>>Brian Walters > >>>Western Sydney Australia > >>> > >>> -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Accessible with your email software or over the web -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 3/22/2011 6:08 AM, Brian Walters wrote: Yes, there is parental pride there but he's a much better photographer than I am and I don't want him to get a swelled head! Purely theoretically, you can apply a judicious amount of belt to his rear end, so as to balance the head swelling. But then again, as you say, he's 36, so you may end up beaten anyway. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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An excellent shot and a very creative concept. Paul On Mar 22, 2011, at 1:56 AM, Brian Walters wrote: > On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 00:20 -0400, "Ann Sanfedele" > wrote: >> Ah but does he shoot Pentax??? :-) >> > > > Yes and no. > > I think the cover was shot with his *istDL. He also has a K20D but his > kit includes a couple of Panasonics, a Fuji and (sigh, where have I > failed?) an iPhone, which seems to be getting a lot of photographic use. > > > > Cheers > > Brian > > ++ > Brian Walters > Western Sydney Australia > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > > >> anyway its a lovely cover >> ann >> >> Brian Walters wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 21:16 -0400, "Ann Sanfedele" >>> wrote: >>> >>> You are speaking of your twerp? Very nice shot ... lets get with the parental pride here, Brian >>> >>> >>> I suppose 'little' wasn't the correct adjective. He's 36, but he'll >>> always be a 'little twerp' to me >>> >>> Yes, there is parental pride there but he's a much better photographer >>> than I am and I don't want him to get a swelled head! >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> ++ >>> Brian Walters >>> Western Sydney Australia >>> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ >>> >>> >>> >>> ann Brian Walters wrote: > On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:48 +0200, "Boris Liberman" > wrote: > > > > >> On 3/21/2011 4:46 AM, mike wilson wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> Wait until your child picks up your camera and produces superb pictures >>> with it. It's a whole new world of pain and humiliation. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Nope. >> >> >> >> > Yup! > > The little twerp just scored the cover of this journal: > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/IRJ-March2011.JPG > > > Cheers > > Brian > > Brian Walters > Western Sydney Australia > > > -- > > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - Accessible with your email software > or over the web > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I don't have an iPhone but they must be better than I think as a camera because what I see is just not as bad as I expect. At least they seem better than the BBs. On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 1:56 AM, Brian Walters wrote: > On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 00:20 -0400, "Ann Sanfedele" > wrote: >> Ah but does he shoot Pentax??? :-) >> > > > Yes and no. > > I think the cover was shot with his *istDL. He also has a K20D but his > kit includes a couple of Panasonics, a Fuji and (sigh, where have I > failed?) an iPhone, which seems to be getting a lot of photographic use. > > > > Cheers > > Brian > > ++ > Brian Walters > Western Sydney Australia > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > > >> anyway its a lovely cover >> ann >> >> Brian Walters wrote: >> >> >On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 21:16 -0400, "Ann Sanfedele" >> >wrote: >> > >> > >> >>You are speaking of your twerp? Very nice shot ... lets get with the >> >>parental pride here, Brian >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >I suppose 'little' wasn't the correct adjective. He's 36, but he'll >> >always be a 'little twerp' to me >> > >> >Yes, there is parental pride there but he's a much better photographer >> >than I am and I don't want him to get a swelled head! >> > >> > >> > >> >Cheers >> > >> >Brian >> > >> >++ >> >Brian Walters >> >Western Sydney Australia >> >http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >>ann >> >> >> >>Brian Walters wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:48 +0200, "Boris Liberman" >> >>>wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On 3/21/2011 4:46 AM, mike wilson wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >Wait until your child picks up your camera and produces superb pictures >> >with it. It's a whole new world of pain and humiliation. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Nope. >> >> >> >> >> >>>Yup! >> >>> >> >>>The little twerp just scored the cover of this journal: >> >>> >> >>>http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/IRJ-March2011.JPG >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>Cheers >> >>> >> >>>Brian >> >>> >> >>>Brian Walters >> >>>Western Sydney Australia >> >>> >> >>> > -- > > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - Accessible with your email software > or over the web > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
