Re: Old Cameras, Old Lenses, Old Emulsions
A scroll of mail from Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:30:58 -0700 Read it? y Fir me, the oldest camera and lenses that I regularly use go back to 1959, and the BW film I most often use goes back to those times as well. What about you? My oldest is probably my Mamiya C3 6x6 TLR which they stopped making in 1965. It replaced my Seagull which is now functioning as a bookend for my photography books. I might get another one for the other site. Looks nice. :) Oldest Pentax would be my ESII (which has no functioning meter, but is still a nice machine) or my 6x7. dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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John Edwin Mason wrote: I like old things. Maybe it's because I'm an historian. Maybe it's because older products were often better built than their contemporary equivalents. I like some old things. Some are just indefinably _cool_. Others are sturdier, or simpler, or just _interesting_ because they're not like the more common recent versions. Sometimes it's because a design _fashion_ changed to reflect a shift in general consumer tastes but my personal taste better matches the older style. (Other times, designs change to be _more_ like what I want. It works both ways.) The French horns that I play most often are a 1952 Conn 28D and a 1955 Conn 8D. Both magnificent instruments, far superior in craftsmanship and playing qualities to modern Conns. Or modern anything else, except exclusive handmade instruments. Now I'm wondering when my father's Olds Ambassador trombone was made... (Teaching myself to play horn is slow going, I fear. I figured I'd start with valves first, so I'm using a beat-up old Conn four-valve baritone horn (no idea how old) that someone found for me at a garage sale. The mouthpiece cost me more than the horn. Brass is so different from the other instruments I play.) The cameras I use most often are my KX and my Super Program. I don't think of either one as old. My first Pentax was an H3. I don't use the screwmount gear as much, now that I've got a decent K-mount kit, but each of my working screwmount bodies gets at least a few rolls a year through it, so I'm still _using_ them. In fact, they're important parts of my kit. As I've mentioned before, I often put HIE in a pre-Spotmatic body, since I'm not going to be making much use of an in-camera meter with that film anyhow. I use the screwmounts when I want a focal length that I don't have in K-mount yet; or when I know I won't be needing a TTL meter (such as when shooting HIE or using auto flash); when I want more bodies loaded with different types of film than I have K-mount bodies for; when the K-mount body I wanted to use still has half a roll of the wrong film in it; and once in a while Just Because. This past Sunday I wanted to shoot HIE and EIR, and my changing bag was one of the things I lost in the burglary, so I loaded two cameras in my basement and decided those two bodies were dedicated to IR film for the day and would not be unloaded/reloaded until I got home (rather than trying to improvise darkness in the field without a proper changing bag). Instead, when I used up the IR film, I just changed cameras. So an H1a got a roll of HIE run through it. Another thing I've mentioned before is that I get a perverse kick out of being able to tell people the camera I'm using is older than I am. :-) (True for some of my screwmount gear, at least.) As for film, I shoot more Tri-X (35 and 120) than anything else and have since high school. I shoot more Fuji Press than anything else, though I am rather fond of Tri-X. Tri-X would be my most-used BW film, with TMZ a close second... On the other hand, my second most used film is Ilford's decidedly modern Delta 3200 ... Uh, yeah, like you. :-) (I consider TMZ and Delta 3200 to be so similar that I use them interchangeably -- it all depends on which one is available and/or which is cheaper.) Cheers, John (in already hot and hazy Virginia) -- Glenn, in pollen-encrusted Baltimore - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Just wondering if anyone has a link for dating (working out age of) Spotmatics. I am curious to know if mine is older than me. I think it probably is :) Then I can tease it about being an old fogey. Jody. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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I wish I had collector status - then I too would be worth something... Paul M. Provencher 703-575-6147 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Creature's Comfort [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 4:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Old Cameras, Old Lenses, Old Emulsions It has collector status. Provencher, Paul M. wrote: Just for the HOOD??? It IS a nice hood, I will admit that but jeeze... -- Sheldon Belinkoff CREATURE'S COMFORT mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Old Cameras, Old Lenses, Old Emulsions
On Sunday, April 22, 2001 12:31 PM, Shel Belinkoff [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: I just sent a message to another list member and noted that I generally use older gear for my photography, and tend to prefer older BW emulsions as well. That got me to wondering what the oldest cameras, lenses, and emulsions list members may be using on a regular basis. Fir me, the oldest camera and lenses that I regularly use go back to 1959, and the BW film I most often use goes back to those times as well. What about you? -- Shel Belinkoff SNIP Hi Shel: Oldest camera - 1955 Rolleicord vB Oldest lens - the Schneider Kreuznach Xenar 75/3.5 on that camera, otherwise the screw-mount SMC Macro-Takumar 50/4 recently purchased Oldest emulsion - I guess you mean emulsion type: probably HP5. John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Old Cameras, Old Lenses, Old Emulsions
In 35mm I use the MXs and MZ5n, so I guess new and relatively new. For 4x5 it is all old; the Calumet monorail would be the newest, at 30 -40years old. The Speedgraphic would be at least 10 years older, while my Instantograph is the 1893 model. I can't say that I use them a lot, but they do get used. I mostly use Ilford FP and HP for BW (both 35 and 4x5). Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Guess the oldest would be the Crown Graphic (1952), unless the Ricohflex is older but I don't think it is (definately pre 1955 though). Oldest (and newest) Pentax are ME Supers. Film? Ilford FP4. Favorite films no longer available? Ansco Super Hypan, and much later Ilford XP1 developed in XP1 developer. --Tom - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Shel wrote: That got me to wondering what the oldest cameras, lenses, and emulsions list members may be using on a regular basis. Haven't used my Speed Graphic 4x5 in at least 25 years, but I remember examining the bellows and exercising the focal plane shutter recently. This model had a copyright date from 1890-something and Rochester, New York imprinted with the copyright statement. I know it dates back to pre-1940, but not sure how far back. Up until about 1998, I used my Exakta Jhagee body regularly. It dates from 1935 or '36 and is marked (in English) MADE IN DRESDEN, GERMANY. I think these were marked for export to Britain. My kit includes three Zeiss-Jena lenses: 40mm, 50mm, and a long-focus 135mm. I always loved the Z setting for long time-exposures. It still works great -- I just haven't used it in a few years. Bill Peifer Rochester, NY - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Old Cameras, Old Lenses, Old Emulsions
Well, the oldest camera and lenses I use are the Leica M-3 and associated period lenses (I have the same Summitar 1.5 as someone here - recently found the correct hood; 35mm Summaron; 90mm f/4 Elmar collapsible). But I am afraid that I don't use any vintage film, unless you consider Kodachrome 64 such. Most of the time, I can be found with Spotmatic family member and SMCT lenses though. Paul M. Provencher (ppro) -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 10:31 PM To: Pentax List Subject: Old Cameras, Old Lenses, Old Emulsions I just sent a message to another list member and noted that I generally use older gear for my photography, and tend to prefer older BW emulsions as well. That got me to wondering what the oldest cameras, lenses, and emulsions list members may be using on a regular basis. Fir me, the oldest camera and lenses that I regularly use go back to 1959, and the BW film I most often use goes back to those times as well. What about you? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There are no rules for good photographs, there are only good photographs. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Provencher, Paul M. wrote: Well, the oldest camera and lenses I use are the Leica M-3 and associated period lenses (I have the same Summitar 1.5 as someone here Don't you mean the Summarit? I've made that mistake frequently myself. recently found the correct hood; The XOONS hood? Hope you got it at a better price than I did ... those can be spendy items. -- Sheldon Belinkoff CREATURE'S COMFORT mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Wild! I too have couple of CG Conns. One is a single French Horn That I bought used in 1950 and an Altimeter that they made during the second World War in 1944 for the Army Air Force. Still is accurate and never been repaired. Cy Galley - Bellanca Champion Club Newsletter Editor EAA TC www.bellanca-championclub.com - Original Message - From: John Edwin Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 1:01 PM Subject: Re: Old Cameras, Old Lenses, Old Emulsions I like old things. Maybe it's because I'm an historian. Maybe it's because older products were often better built than their contemporary equivalents. For sure it's because so many old things, say, cameras, typewriters, and cameras are aethetically more pleasing. The French horns that I play most often are a 1952 Conn 28D and a 1955 Conn 8D. Both magnificent instruments, far superior in craftsmanship and playing qualities to modern Conns. Or modern anything else, except exclusive handmade instruments. I still sometimes use a '20s Smith manual typewriter or an '80s IBM Selectric. Both heavy metal of the best sort. Both perfectly functional. Both a lot more satisfying than the computer I spend most of my time with. To bring this back to the topic at hand, the cameras that I use most often are a K1000 I picked up on the eve of my first research trip to South Africa in 1989 and a bruised and battered, but absolutely reliable KX. Most of my lenses are Pentax As and Ms, than which there may be some as good, but none better in 35mm. I also often use a Contax IIIa rangefinder with Zeiss 50/1.5 lens that my father bought new in 1959 and an early '50s Rolleicord TLR (sibling to the Rolleiflex) with a stunning Zeiss 75/4.5 lens. And the crowning glory of my collection, an Argus C3, da Brick. Each of these cameras is solid, metal, well-crafted, low maintenence, and a joy to hold and use. (I hear that mumbling about the Argus. Cut it out!) Next to them my ZX-5N feels like a toy. Not that I'd want to give up the 5N. TTL flash is a godsend. I also appreciate being able to set it on auto-everything for snaps. As for film, I shoot more Tri-X (35 and 120) than anything else and have since high school. Having been on a nostalgia kick of late, I was disappointed to learn that it's not really the same emulsion that it was in 1972. Tonality is still gorgeous. On the other hand, my second most used film is Ilford's decidedly modern Delta 3200 and lately I've been using Kodak's T-Max developer for everything including (gasp) Tri-X. Cheers, John (in already hot and hazy Virginia) __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Old Cameras, Old Lenses, Old Emulsions
I sometimes use an Exakta V with a 3.5, preset Jena Tessar. I have a few other old Exaktas and some nice lenses, including a 24mm auto Flektogon.The old shutter cloths have deteriorated with the rubber flaking off [(. I can't find anybody who will work on these (Seymours, but that is a sad sack company!) Jack Casner - Original Message - From: "Ted Bradshaw" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 10:32 AM Subject: Re: Old Cameras, Old Lenses, Old Emulsions I use old cameras more often than not. My oldest regular RF "user" is a Leica 111 made in 1936, and I use it frequently with a Leitz Summar from 1939, although more often with a 1951 3.5/50mm Elmar. My oldest SLR "user" is a Spotmatic, generally with a 1.4/50mm Super Takumar. These older lenses give me wonderful results with modern colour slide films, frequently "taming" their excesses in a very satisfying way. Sometimes I use Provia, but more generally these days it's EBX. Another very pleasing combination I have found, by the way, is Kodachrome 64 exposed in a Zeiss Contax 11A through a 1951 Zeiss Opton 1.5/50mm Sonnar. Best wishes to all. Ted Bradshaw. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Old Cameras, Old Lenses, Old Emulsions
Shel wonders: That got me to wondering what the oldest cameras, lenses, and emulsions list members may be using on a regular basis. Daily shooter Spotmatic SP. The Takumar 1:4/300 gets used every month or two. Kodachrome has changed emulsions, but the name is old (1936?). Mark Rofini - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Well the oldest camera in my possession is a Zeiss-Ikon Contina 35mm folder with a Novar Anastigmat f3.5 lens in a Prontor shutter. Although somewhat worn by now it still works (I used it recently just to check it out). Like many cameras of that day the viewfinder is small and the rangefinder even worse. The second oldest camera is a Pentacon FM SLR with a 50mm f2.8 CZ Tessar. It still works but occasionally the shutter makes odd sounds and the winder goes erratic. I really must clean and lube it but I hardly ever use it so??? My Spotmatic SP gets used most of the time, with my Spotmatic F. The S1a also gets used quite a bit. I hardly ever use the MX or the Program-A. In view of all this, can anyone imagine modern lenses in my possession? But there are a few none for M42 thread though. Conrad F. Samuels Kirstenhof SA - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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My very first SLR was the Honeywell Pentax H3. I still own the camera. I nowadays prefer to use my LX, SF1n, or 645. I sometimes play with the H3 but haven't taken pictures with it in a few years. Jim A. From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 00:38:09 -0500 (CDT) To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Old Cameras, Old Lenses, Old Emulsions On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I just sent a message to another list member and noted that I generally use older gear for my photography, and tend to prefer older BW emulsions as well. That got me to wondering what the oldest cameras, lenses, and emulsions list members may be using on a regular basis. Fir me, the oldest camera and lenses that I regularly use go back to 1959, and the BW film I most often use goes back to those times as well. What about you? I use my Asahiflex occasionally but not regularly, so that wouldn't count. I'd have to go with an S3, which dates from the early 60's. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Old Cameras, Old Lenses, Old Emulsions
On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I just sent a message to another list member and noted that I generally use older gear for my photography, and tend to prefer older BW emulsions as well. That got me to wondering what the oldest cameras, lenses, and emulsions list members may be using on a regular basis. Fir me, the oldest camera and lenses that I regularly use go back to 1959, and the BW film I most often use goes back to those times as well. What about you? I use my Asahiflex occasionally but not regularly, so that wouldn't count. I'd have to go with an S3, which dates from the early 60's. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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I'll add my 2 cents here aswell.I use my SP 500 on a semi regular basis.Mostly for astral pictures and some indoor jumping with fair lighting using the fast 55mm and 105mm.Bought this in 1971. Regards Dave Begin Original Message From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 00:38:09 -0500 (CDT) To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Old Cameras, Old Lenses, Old Emulsions On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I just sent a message to another list member and noted that I generally use older gear for my photography, and tend to prefer older BW emulsions as well. That got me to wondering what the oldest cameras, lenses, and emulsions list members may be using on a regular basis. Fir me, the oldest camera and lenses that I regularly use go back to 1959, and the BW film I most often use goes back to those times as well. What about you? I use my Asahiflex occasionally but not regularly, so that wouldn't count. I'd have to go with an S3, which dates from the early 60's. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Old Cameras, Old Lenses, Old Emulsions
I use old cameras. My most contemporary are an LX and MX. I have Spotmatics and an H3v that I use now and then. I have a Mamiya C220 that I use fairly often. I would guess it dates from the mid to late sixties. And I have a Speed Graphic (late forties or early fifties?) that I use when I have time for the setup, and money for the film. As far as film emulsions go, I'm not sure that there really are any old ones around. Tri-X has been changed a half dozen times since I started using it in the seventies. I use a lot of Ektachrome, but I think it resembles the old stuff in name only. I like the modern versions of both of these films a lot more than I did the early ones. Tri-X is tighter grained than it use to be and perhaps less contrasty as well? Ektachrome 100VS has far better color balance and saturation than the old Ektachrome 64. I like the new films as well. I use a lot of T-Max 400 in my old cameras. Once you work out a processing scheme for this film, it's really quite excellent. Paul Shel Belinkoff wrote: I just sent a message to another list member and noted that I generally use older gear for my photography, and tend to prefer older BW emulsions as well. That got me to wondering what the oldest cameras, lenses, and emulsions list members may be using on a regular basis. Fir me, the oldest camera and lenses that I regularly use go back to 1959, and the BW film I most often use goes back to those times as well. What about you? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There are no rules for good photographs, there are only good photographs. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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my oldest cameras are a wonderful voigtlander perkeo II folder (1953 vintage), which takes 6x6 negs, and my beloved little Rollei 35 (1969 vintage, with the 40/3.5 tessar). any film works, really. Daphne - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Old Cameras, Old Lenses, Old Emulsions
I just sent a message to another list member and noted that I generally use older gear for my photography, and tend to prefer older BW emulsions as well. That got me to wondering what the oldest cameras, lenses, and emulsions list members may be using on a regular basis. Fir me, the oldest camera and lenses that I regularly use go back to 1959, and the BW film I most often use goes back to those times as well. What about you? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There are no rules for good photographs, there are only good photographs. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
