Re: PAW: Gray Day

2004-02-27 Thread Steve Desjardins
It's not a scan.  *istD on ***L


Steven Desjardins
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/26/04 07:30PM 
i pushed it a fair bit in Photoshop CS and used a couple of other
filters.
what did you use to scan the original? if you scanned in 16-bit mode, i
bet
you could push the saturation more before funny effects happen.

Herb
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 There is surprisingly little color and the sky gets noisy quickly. 
If I
 really push the saturation, I get something artistic.  If there was
a
 little more detail, like a fence of something, this would make a
good
 silhouette.




Re: PAW: Gray Day

2004-02-27 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

SD Here's my first attempt at this (W. Robb embarrassed me into figuring
SD out how to post this at WL ;-).  Until I get Frontpage installed, I'm
SD using Word to make a webpage.  Unfortunately, it doesn't look as sharp
SD on the web:

SD http://home.wlu.edu/~desjardi/

I have only one word for this one - flat. The light was flat, but that
was beyond your control probably. But the scene is also flat. Well, my
wife does not fully agree with me here, but she admits that still
there is certain degree of being flat here.

I suppose 70 mm on *istD gives effective 105 mm. So perhaps that's the
reason.

Nonetheless, this shot is lacking something...

Just my cents.

Boris




Re: PAW: Gray Day

2004-02-27 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

Oops. I suppose I was looking at the cropped and otherwise corrected
version. I couldn't get to the original one...

Just to make sure it is understood of which image I am rambling...

Boris




Re: PAW: Gray Day

2004-02-27 Thread Herb Chong
it's too bad you didn't shoot RAW, there is enough room to boost the
saturation a lot without too much artifacting in the sky. even if there is,
much of the resulting chroma noise can be removed with a good noise filter.
send me the original and i'll see what i can do.

Herb...
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 It's not a scan.  *istD on ***L




Re: PAW: Gray Day

2004-02-26 Thread Steve Desjardins
There is surprisingly little color and the sky gets noisy quickly.  If I
really push the saturation, I get something artistic.  If there was a
little more detail, like a fence of something, this would make a good
silhouette.


Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/26/04 11:10AM 
Hello Steve,

Try boosting saturation and see if any green pops on those trees.  A
touch of color would spark the picture a bit - me thinks.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Thursday, February 26, 2004, 7:40:09 AM, you wrote:

SD OK.  I fixed the sharpening and cropped:

SD http://home.wlu.edu/~desjardi/ 


SD Steven Desjardins
SD Department of Chemistry
SD Washington and Lee University
SD Lexington, VA 24450
SD (540) 458-8873
SD FAX: (540) 458-8878
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Re: PAW: Gray Day

2004-02-26 Thread jaalmanza
The use of an 18% grey card to adjust the apeture/shutter speed with the 
available light conditions will usually fix that.  Anyone correct me if I'm 
wrong.

Cheers,

Alejandro

 Try boosting saturation and see if any green pops on those trees.  A
 touch of color would spark the picture a bit - me thinks.
 
 -- 
 Best regards,
 Bruce
 
 Thursday, February 26, 2004, 7:40:09 AM, you wrote:
 
 SD OK.  I fixed the sharpening and cropped:
 
 SD http://home.wlu.edu/~desjardi/



Re: PAW: Gray Day

2004-02-26 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/26/2004 8:12:45 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hello Steve,

Try boosting saturation and see if any green pops on those trees.  A
touch of color would spark the picture a bit - me thinks.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Thursday, February 26, 2004, 7:40:09 AM, you wrote:

SD OK.  I fixed the sharpening and cropped:

SD http://home.wlu.edu/~desjardi/


SD Steven Desjardins

Cropped too tight for me. I like seeing three trees. Just my personal opinion.

I like Bruce's suggestion best. Some color contrast would be good. I'd try 
that on the uncropped version, then proceed with cropping from there if you 
think it needs it.

It might even bring out a tinge of color in the weeds in the foreground. If 
the picture just had a tinge of contrasting color it would be more interesting 
and emphasize the grayness more.

IMHO, Marnie aka Doe :-)



Re: PAW: Gray Day

2004-02-26 Thread frank theriault
Yeah,

Even though it was my suggestion to crop out that evergreen on the right, 
now that I see the crop, I think I like it better in.

And, my other suggestion about cropping out all that snow and twigs on the 
bottom kind of doesn't work either - I like the first one better, now that I 
see both.  The snow gives balance against the dark trees.  Tight like that, 
the trees overwhelm a bit.  I think you were right the first time, Steve.  
My bad.

Your good.

On the plus side, now that it's sharpened better, I notice there's pretty 
snow on the branches of those pine trees, that I didn't see before.  I like 
that very much.

I hope you've learned something here:  Next time, just ignore me...

vbg

cheers,
frank
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




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Cropped too tight for me. I like seeing three trees. Just my personal 
opinion.

I like Bruce's suggestion best. Some color contrast would be good. I'd try
that on the uncropped version, then proceed with cropping from there if you
think it needs it.
It might even bring out a tinge of color in the weeds in the foreground. If
the picture just had a tinge of contrasting color it would be more 
interesting
and emphasize the grayness more.

IMHO, Marnie aka Doe :-)

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Re: PAW: Gray Day

2004-02-26 Thread Herb Chong
i pushed it a fair bit in Photoshop CS and used a couple of other filters.
what did you use to scan the original? if you scanned in 16-bit mode, i bet
you could push the saturation more before funny effects happen.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: PAW: Gray Day


 There is surprisingly little color and the sky gets noisy quickly.  If I
 really push the saturation, I get something artistic.  If there was a
 little more detail, like a fence of something, this would make a good
 silhouette.




Re: PAW: Gray Day

2004-02-24 Thread Steve Desjardins
Oops, forgot to include

*ist D
Sigma 24-70 at 70
f/9.5
1/350
iso 400 

This is so much better than printing on the film edge.


Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
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