Re: PAW 2006 - 04 - GDG

2006-04-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

thank you for both comments, Boris!

Godfrey

On Apr 22, 2006, at 10:04 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:


  http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/04.htm
  http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/05.htm




Re: PAW 2006 - 04 - GDG

2006-04-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Thanks, Unca Mikey!

Godfrey

On Apr 21, 2006, at 8:03 PM, Unca Mikey wrote:

First, I like the photo, it's quite appealing, esp in the larger  
image.  I am impressed one can read the NO DOGS sign.  Second,   
this is one of the most entertaining discussions of a photo I've  
read on PDML in a long time.


Discussions of a half degree this way or that way made me larf --  
when I decided a few years ago to start playing with photography  
again, the biggest problem I had was getting the darn snaps  
straight! And to this day I get so tickled when a shot is lined up  
just the way I want it.

*UncaMikey

On Apr 21, 2006, at 6:43 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

  From last Sunday morning's visit to the Santa Cruz wharf:

 http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/04.htm







Re: PAW 2006 - 04 - GDG

2006-04-22 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!


 From last Sunday morning's visit to the Santa Cruz wharf:

  http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/04.htm

It works best in a large print. I've included a 1000x1500 pixel 
rendering to see it better, if you have the bandwidth and display space.


Comments, critique, all appreciated.


Godfrey, I have to agree with others, it is right heavy... Now, I am not 
sure that rotation will make it better. The composition is right 
heavy... At least to my eyes...


It does work as it is too... It is indeed quite lovely. So please don't 
take my comment above too seriously.


Boris



PAW 2006 - 04 - GDG

2006-04-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

From last Sunday morning's visit to the Santa Cruz wharf:

  http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/04.htm

It works best in a large print. I've included a 1000x1500 pixel  
rendering to see it better, if you have the bandwidth and display space.


Comments, critique, all appreciated.

best,
Godfrey



Re: PAW 2006 - 04 - GDG

2006-04-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Interesting in its minimalism. But this is such a geometric composition 
that I think it requires complete accuracy. It appears to need a 
counterclockwise rotation of about half a degree.

Paul
On Apr 21, 2006, at 6:43 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


From last Sunday morning's visit to the Santa Cruz wharf:

  http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/04.htm

It works best in a large print. I've included a 1000x1500 pixel 
rendering to see it better, if you have the bandwidth and display 
space.


Comments, critique, all appreciated.

best,
Godfrey





Re: PAW 2006 - 04 - GDG

2006-04-21 Thread Bruce Dayton
Much better large.  I rather like it.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Friday, April 21, 2006, 3:43:17 PM, you wrote:

GD  From last Sunday morning's visit to the Santa Cruz wharf:

GDhttp://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/04.htm

GD It works best in a large print. I've included a 1000x1500 pixel  
GD rendering to see it better, if you have the bandwidth and display space.

GD Comments, critique, all appreciated.

GD best,
GD Godfrey




Re: PAW 2006 - 04 - GDG

2006-04-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

LOL ... I was wondering who would be the first to suggest rotation. ;-)

It's hard to judge. I've used the edge of the wharf as a reference  
line and Photoshop suggests -.09 degree rotation. If I use the  
horizon, it suggests -.2 degrees. Problem is that when I do the  
rotation, it looks like it's leaning the other way as the lamp and  
bench fool the eye.


G

On Apr 21, 2006, at 4:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Interesting in its minimalism. But this is such a geometric  
composition that I think it requires complete accuracy. It appears  
to need a counterclockwise rotation of about half a degree.

Paul
On Apr 21, 2006, at 6:43 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


From last Sunday morning's visit to the Santa Cruz wharf:

  http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/04.htm

It works best in a large print. I've included a 1000x1500 pixel  
rendering to see it better, if you have the bandwidth and display  
space.


Comments, critique, all appreciated.

best,
Godfrey







Re: PAW 2006 - 04 - GDG

2006-04-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

thanks bruce!

G

On Apr 21, 2006, at 4:07 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:


Much better large.  I rather like it.

--  
Best regards,

Bruce


Friday, April 21, 2006, 3:43:17 PM, you wrote:

GD  From last Sunday morning's visit to the Santa Cruz wharf:

GDhttp://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/04.htm

GD It works best in a large print. I've included a 1000x1500 pixel
GD rendering to see it better, if you have the bandwidth and  
display space.


GD Comments, critique, all appreciated.

GD best,
GD Godfrey






Re: PAW 2006 - 04 - GDG

2006-04-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I'd have been the first had I seen the pic before Paul LOL

I played around a bit with the rotation and settled on a 0.04 degree
rotation, which looks pretty good to these old eyes.  At 0.05 degrees I'm
starting to see, or feel, the lamp tilting the other way.

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Date: 4/21/2006 4:28:49 PM
 Subject: Re: PAW 2006 - 04 - GDG

 LOL ... I was wondering who would be the first to suggest rotation. ;-)

 It's hard to judge. I've used the edge of the wharf as a reference  
 line and Photoshop suggests -.09 degree rotation. If I use the  
 horizon, it suggests -.2 degrees. Problem is that when I do the  
 rotation, it looks like it's leaning the other way as the lamp and  
 bench fool the eye.

 G

 On Apr 21, 2006, at 4:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

  Interesting in its minimalism. But this is such a geometric  
  composition that I think it requires complete accuracy. It appears  
  to need a counterclockwise rotation of about half a degree.

   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/04.htm




Re: PAW 2006 - 04 - GDG

2006-04-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
I would rotate to straighten the deck and then use transform to 
straighten the light pole.

Paul
On Apr 21, 2006, at 7:59 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


I'd have been the first had I seen the pic before Paul LOL

I played around a bit with the rotation and settled on a 0.04 degree
rotation, which looks pretty good to these old eyes.  At 0.05 degrees 
I'm

starting to see, or feel, the lamp tilting the other way.

Shel




[Original Message]
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Date: 4/21/2006 4:28:49 PM
Subject: Re: PAW 2006 - 04 - GDG

LOL ... I was wondering who would be the first to suggest rotation. 
;-)


It's hard to judge. I've used the edge of the wharf as a reference
line and Photoshop suggests -.09 degree rotation. If I use the
horizon, it suggests -.2 degrees. Problem is that when I do the
rotation, it looks like it's leaning the other way as the lamp and
bench fool the eye.

G

On Apr 21, 2006, at 4:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:


Interesting in its minimalism. But this is such a geometric
composition that I think it requires complete accuracy. It appears
to need a counterclockwise rotation of about half a degree.



  http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/04.htm







Re: PAW 2006 - 04 - GDG

2006-04-21 Thread David Savage
Nice one Godfrey.

It looks fine to me but I can see what the others mean.

Maybe it because I just woke up, but when I read people saying rotate
it 0.04 degrees I start laughing. This is photography people, not
precision engineering. :-)

Dave S

On 4/22/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  From last Sunday morning's visit to the Santa Cruz wharf:

http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/04.htm

 It works best in a large print. I've included a 1000x1500 pixel
 rendering to see it better, if you have the bandwidth and display space.

 Comments, critique, all appreciated.

 best,
 Godfrey





Re: PAW 2006 - 04 - GDG

2006-04-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Dave,

Sometimes photography requires precision.  I have to laugh at your comment
;-))

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Maybe it because I just woke up, but when I read people saying rotate
 it 0.04 degrees I start laughing. This is photography people, not
 precision engineering. :-)


 http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/04.htm




Re: PAW 2006 - 04 - GDG

2006-04-21 Thread David Savage
:-)

Glad to see the humor was reciprocated.

Dave S.

On 4/22/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dave,

 Sometimes photography requires precision.  I have to laugh at your comment
 ;-))

 Shel



  [Original Message]
  From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]


  Maybe it because I just woke up, but when I read people saying rotate
  it 0.04 degrees I start laughing. This is photography people, not
  precision engineering. :-)
 

  http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/04.htm



Re: PAW 2006 - 04 - GDG

2006-04-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I'm glad you folks are having so much fun with this one. I quite like  
it. Thanks for all the interest!


Godfrey

On Apr 21, 2006, at 6:48 PM, David Savage wrote:


:-)

Glad to see the humor was reciprocated.

Dave S.

On 4/22/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dave,

Sometimes photography requires precision.  I have to laugh at your  
comment

;-))

Shel




[Original Message]
From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Maybe it because I just woke up, but when I read people saying  
rotate

it 0.04 degrees I start laughing. This is photography people, not
precision engineering. :-)




   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/04.htm






Re: PAW 2006 - 04 - GDG

2006-04-21 Thread Unca Mikey
First, I like the photo, it's quite appealing, esp in the larger 
image.  I am impressed one can read the NO DOGS sign.  Second,  this 
is one of the most entertaining discussions of a photo I've read on 
PDML in a long time.


Discussions of a half degree this way or that way made me larf -- 
when I decided a few years ago to start playing with photography 
again, the biggest problem I had was getting the darn snaps straight! 
And to this day I get so tickled when a shot is lined up just the way 
I want it. 


*UncaMikey

On Apr 21, 2006, at 6:43 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

  From last Sunday morning's visit to the Santa Cruz wharf:

 http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/04.htm





Re: PAW 2006 - 04 - GDG

2006-04-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hey, I like it too, otherwise I'd not have downloaded it and played around
with various degrees of rotation in PS.  My comment that 0.04 degrees
seemed to be a good compromise was not at all tongue in cheek.

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Date: 4/21/2006 7:54:22 PM
 Subject: Re: PAW 2006 - 04 - GDG

 I'm glad you folks are having so much fun with this one. I quite like  
 it. Thanks for all the interest!

http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/04.htm




Re: PAW 2006 - 04 - GDG

2006-04-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Sorry if that came off a little brusque.
I'm genuinely pleased that you and others are enjoying the photo, and  
playing with it too. Gives me ideas.


Godfrey

On Apr 21, 2006, at 8:48 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Hey, I like it too, otherwise I'd not have downloaded it and played  
around

with various degrees of rotation in PS.  My comment that 0.04 degrees
seemed to be a good compromise was not at all tongue in cheek.

Shel




[Original Message]
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Date: 4/21/2006 7:54:22 PM
Subject: Re: PAW 2006 - 04 - GDG

I'm glad you folks are having so much fun with this one. I quite like
it. Thanks for all the interest!



   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/04.htm