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Surreal in a very nice way. Billy Abbott wrote: I've been lurking for a few weeks and thought I'd post a pic and wee introduction. I've only been taking photographs for a couple of years after a gap since I was a kid, and was introduced to Pentax gear by Steve Jolly, who appears on this list from time to time, who only got me to get Pentax stuff so he could pinch my lenses... Anyway, this is one of the pictures from my first attempt to do funky things with water and long exposures. http://cowfish.org.uk/paw/waterfall.html If anyone is going to say you need to do a better scan then, yes I do :) Thanks to whoever posted about the new Epson scanners coming out next month - I now have one of them on my shopping list, and my scans should become better after that... Comments/advice much appreciated. billy
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On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Brian Walters wrote: Great photo. Perhaps I'd have cropped a bit more off the top and maybe cropped out the slanted tree on the left rather than your alternative crop which takes a bit off the bottom and a bit off the right. I don't think the alternative crop makes any significant difference to the original. I have some other (unscanned) shots of this scene done in landscape where the image is pretty much as you describe, but i like the contrast (which is greater in the print/neg than in this scan) between the green at the top and water and rocks at the bottom - with the cropped/landscape versions you don;t get anywhere near so much impact. However, I haven;t though about cropping - the course i recently did (which this was a submission to) didn't allow any cropping of prints (to force better in-camera composition on all the students) and as most of my photography over the last year has been for that the idea didn't cross my mind :) I've remembered it now though... I don't think the scanner has done a bad job - the rocks are not quite sharp on my monitor but you probably couldn't sharpen too much without introducing artifacts into the flowing water. I apologised for my scanner before really examining the picture - this is an older scan (before the dust built up and the scanner got knocked around a bit) and seems to be fine. My more recent scans are another matter - i've learnt a load about dust and scratch removal in the last few weeks... thanks billy -- I think nighttime is dark so you can imagine you fears with less distraction Billy Abbott billy at cowfish dot org dot uk
PAW and introductory post
I've been lurking for a few weeks and thought I'd post a pic and wee introduction. I've only been taking photographs for a couple of years after a gap since I was a kid, and was introduced to Pentax gear by Steve Jolly, who appears on this list from time to time, who only got me to get Pentax stuff so he could pinch my lenses... Anyway, this is one of the pictures from my first attempt to do funky things with water and long exposures. http://cowfish.org.uk/paw/waterfall.html If anyone is going to say you need to do a better scan then, yes I do :) Thanks to whoever posted about the new Epson scanners coming out next month - I now have one of them on my shopping list, and my scans should become better after that... Comments/advice much appreciated. billy -- When you say things like that, do you actually believe other people know what you mean? Billy Abbott billy at cowfish dot org dot uk
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On 8 Jul 2004 at 16:46, Billy Abbott wrote: Anyway, this is one of the pictures from my first attempt to do funky things with water and long exposures. http://cowfish.org.uk/paw/waterfall.html If anyone is going to say you need to do a better scan then, yes I do :) Thanks to whoever posted about the new Epson scanners coming out next month - I now have one of them on my shopping list, and my scans should become better after that... Comments/advice much appreciated. Billy, G'day from Oz, good to have you aboard we need all the sanity we can muster these days. Clever that Mr Jolly, all my friends seem to be off buying Canon kit however as it's a damned site cheaper and easier to get here than the Pentax gear. Still Pentax kit has it's virtues, quality image making is one of them. So that is one green serene pic, Agfa Ultra 100 hey, it delivers plenty of punch saturation wise I assume. The last Ultra I used was the 50 and it was pretty difficult to scan even using a decent dedicated film scanner. All in all it's not a bad pic the only thing is that the veiling green makes it that little bit difficult to easily differentiate between the rocks and the foliage. Well done in any case especially if its one of your first. Don't get too locked in to the slow/shutter water thing, do try and experiment with faster shutter speeds too, sometimes the dynamics of the water flow is interesting too. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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Billy: I like the photo you posted. It has a very peaceful, cooling feel to it. It might be better without the skinny tree trunk in the upper left, but, not having been there, I don't know that you could have done anything to eliminate it. Dalwhinnie Is this where they get the water for Dalwhinnie whisky? Thanks for posting your photograph. Dan Billy Abbott wrote: I've been lurking for a few weeks and thought I'd post a pic and wee introduction. I've only been taking photographs for a couple of years after a gap since I was a kid, and was introduced to Pentax gear by Steve Jolly, who appears on this list from time to time, who only got me to get Pentax stuff so he could pinch my lenses... Anyway, this is one of the pictures from my first attempt to do funky things with water and long exposures. http://cowfish.org.uk/paw/waterfall.html If anyone is going to say you need to do a better scan then, yes I do :) Thanks to whoever posted about the new Epson scanners coming out next month - I now have one of them on my shopping list, and my scans should become better after that... Comments/advice much appreciated. billy
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Welcome to the list Billy. Pretty picture. I've always been a sucker for long exposure water pics, and this is a good one. Nice composition, nice framing, rich color. Good work. Paul Stenquist On Jul 8, 2004, at 11:46 AM, Billy Abbott wrote: I've been lurking for a few weeks and thought I'd post a pic and wee introduction. I've only been taking photographs for a couple of years after a gap since I was a kid, and was introduced to Pentax gear by Steve Jolly, who appears on this list from time to time, who only got me to get Pentax stuff so he could pinch my lenses... Anyway, this is one of the pictures from my first attempt to do funky things with water and long exposures. http://cowfish.org.uk/paw/waterfall.html If anyone is going to say you need to do a better scan then, yes I do :) Thanks to whoever posted about the new Epson scanners coming out next month - I now have one of them on my shopping list, and my scans should become better after that... Comments/advice much appreciated. billy -- When you say things like that, do you actually believe other people know what you mean? Billy Abbott billy at cowfish dot org dot uk
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Excellent shot Billy. Oh, and welcome to PDML. The scan looks pretty good to me. Tell us where your from, its always interesting to see where the list members are, its a pretty diverse group. rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been lurking for a few weeks and thought I'd post a pic and wee introduction. I've only been taking photographs for a couple of years after a gap since I was a kid, and was introduced to Pentax gear by Steve Jolly, who appears on this list from time to time, who only got me to get Pentax stuff so he could pinch my lenses... Anyway, this is one of the pictures from my first attempt to do funky things with water and long exposures. http://cowfish.org.uk/paw/waterfall.html If anyone is going to say you need to do a better scan then, yes I do :) Thanks to whoever posted about the new Epson scanners coming out next month - I now have one of them on my shopping list, and my scans should become better after that... Comments/advice much appreciated. billy
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On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Gonz wrote: Excellent shot Billy. Oh, and welcome to PDML. The scan looks pretty good to me. Thanks, thanks and thanks :) This is one of the better scans that i've got out of my scanner (epson 1260? i can't rememebr it's model now, all i know is that my stepdad went and bought the next model up a couple of weeks after i got mine, for abotu 2/3rds the price i paid for mine...). Tell us where your from, its always interesting to see where the list members are, its a pretty diverse group. I'm in London, rather boringly, but have started escaping from time to time to find greenness and open space, rather than my close friend mr concrete. billy -- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. Whatever is said in Latin sounds profound. Billy Abbott billy at cowfish dot org dot uk
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On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Rob Studdert wrote: So that is one green serene pic, Agfa Ultra 100 hey, it delivers plenty of punch saturation wise I assume. The last Ultra I used was the 50 and it was pretty difficult to scan even using a decent dedicated film scanner. The print isn't quite this green - almost though. Unfortunately most of the rest of the pictures on the roll turned out to be rather dull colourwise (lack of forethough on what i'd be shooting), a peril of shooting scottish landscapes in february when there's nothing but rock and mud. All in all it's not a bad pic the only thing is that the veiling green makes it that little bit difficult to easily differentiate between the rocks and the foliage. Well done in any case especially if its one of your first. Thanks, I didn't notice (or really think about) the tree movement when taking the pic - that contributes a large amount to the overall greenness. The slower pictures I took had more of a rock/foliage contrast, but didn't do much justice to the water. Don't get too locked in to the slow/shutter water thing, do try and experiment with faster shutter speeds too, sometimes the dynamics of the water flow is interesting too. Worry not - I walked up the river a bit and tried shooting some fast shutter shots of the next set of rapids - unfortunately it was too dark under the canopy to get too many really fast shots. I'm still experimenting with faster shutters, although as yet without too much success. thanks, billy -- Transformers don't like AC, they like Energon Cubes... Billy Abbott billy at cowfish dot org dot uk
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On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Dalwhinnie Is this where they get the water for Dalwhinnie whisky? We stopped in here after a tour round the Dalwhinnie distillery, probably not the same water though...I think Dalwhinnie's comes from an underground spring. Annoyingly they wouldn't let me take pictures inside the distillery - some shots of the rather impressive copper stills would have been nice, but i;ve heard a variety of reasons ranging from they want to sell you postcards to the motion of the shutter could cause the place to explode to a simple photo of the still is enough for a rival distillery to steal the secret of its shape and the whisky's flavour... Thanks for posting your photograph. thanks, billy -- SUVs are not inherently evil; the fact that they use so much gas, and that are constructed to be killer machines is evil. Billy Abbott billy at cowfish dot org dot uk
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Nice shot... I like the dead tree at the top. I might have cropped the scan until the small branches at the bottom and right are just out of the picture (those pesky things are always getting in the way with less than 100% viewfinder). It might also make the foreground rocks slightly more off center, which to my my mind's eye is pleasing. If you weren't using a polarizer it could help eliminate reflections on the foreground rocks and add a little saturation. That's my comments. A very pleasing shot. Tom C. From: Billy Abbott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PAW and introductory post Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 16:46:33 +0100 (BST) I've been lurking for a few weeks and thought I'd post a pic and wee introduction. I've only been taking photographs for a couple of years after a gap since I was a kid, and was introduced to Pentax gear by Steve Jolly, who appears on this list from time to time, who only got me to get Pentax stuff so he could pinch my lenses... Anyway, this is one of the pictures from my first attempt to do funky things with water and long exposures. http://cowfish.org.uk/paw/waterfall.html If anyone is going to say you need to do a better scan then, yes I do :) Thanks to whoever posted about the new Epson scanners coming out next month - I now have one of them on my shopping list, and my scans should become better after that... Comments/advice much appreciated. billy -- When you say things like that, do you actually believe other people know what you mean? Billy Abbott billy at cowfish dot org dot uk
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Welcome Billy. Beautiful photograph. If you live in Scotland you are one lucky photographer. I have lived in Ireland a few years back and I used to read Outdoor Photography there - it was constantly full of beautiful photographs (4x6 cameras) from the beautiful, Scottish nature. Looking foreward to seeing more photographs from you. Cheers Mate Jens mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 8. juli 2004 18:04 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: PAW and introductory post On 8 Jul 2004 at 16:46, Billy Abbott wrote: Anyway, this is one of the pictures from my first attempt to do funky things with water and long exposures. http://cowfish.org.uk/paw/waterfall.html If anyone is going to say you need to do a better scan then, yes I do :) Thanks to whoever posted about the new Epson scanners coming out next month - I now have one of them on my shopping list, and my scans should become better after that... Comments/advice much appreciated. Billy, G'day from Oz, good to have you aboard we need all the sanity we can muster these days. Clever that Mr Jolly, all my friends seem to be off buying Canon kit however as it's a damned site cheaper and easier to get here than the Pentax gear. Still Pentax kit has it's virtues, quality image making is one of them. So that is one green serene pic, Agfa Ultra 100 hey, it delivers plenty of punch saturation wise I assume. The last Ultra I used was the 50 and it was pretty difficult to scan even using a decent dedicated film scanner. All in all it's not a bad pic the only thing is that the veiling green makes it that little bit difficult to easily differentiate between the rocks and the foliage. Well done in any case especially if its one of your first. Don't get too locked in to the slow/shutter water thing, do try and experiment with faster shutter speeds too, sometimes the dynamics of the water flow is interesting too. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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On 8/7/04, Billy Abbott, discombobulated, offered: I've been lurking for a few weeks and thought I'd post a pic and wee introduction. Hi Billy, welcome. Sift through the shite at the moment and you'll find nuggets. I've only been taking photographs for a couple of years after a gap since I was a kid, and was introduced to Pentax gear by Steve Jolly, who appears on this list from time to time, who only got me to get Pentax stuff so he could pinch my lenses... Aargh another physicist ? ;-) Anyway, this is one of the pictures from my first attempt to do funky things with water and long exposures. http://cowfish.org.uk/paw/waterfall.html That's a good shot - well done. But look at the rocks and water, and ask yourself if the foliage really adds much - the bottom half of the scene is superb. Try a few crops just looking at the water/rocks ... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
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Great stuff Billy, great to have you aboard and look forward to more photos Norm Billy Abbott wrote: http://cowfish.org.uk/paw/waterfall.html
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On 8/7/04, Antonio Garcia Russell, discombobulated, offered: On 8/7/04 9:03 pm, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sift through the shite at the moment and you'll find nuggets. We keep telling you to post less coty! Holy cow, another nom de plume to kill Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
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- Original Message - From: Billy Abbott Subject: PAW and introductory post http://cowfish.org.uk/paw/waterfall.html Comments/advice much appreciated. Aren't your pictures worth a Wisner? William Robb
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Hello Billy and welcome I'm pretty new here as well. I hope you're ready for the deluge of mail - it's a VERY active group, but you probably know that if you've been lurking for a while. Great photo. Perhaps I'd have cropped a bit more off the top and maybe cropped out the slanted tree on the left rather than your alternative crop which takes a bit off the bottom and a bit off the right. I don't think the alternative crop makes any significant difference to the original. I don't think the scanner has done a bad job - the rocks are not quite sharp on my monitor but you probably couldn't sharpen too much without introducing artifacts into the flowing water. + Brian Walters Western Sydney, Australia On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 16:46 , Billy Abbott [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: I've been lurking for a few weeks and thought I'd post a pic and wee introduction. I've only been taking photographs for a couple of years after a gap since I was a kid, and was introduced to Pentax gear by Steve Jolly, who appears on this list from time to time, who only got me to get Pentax stuff so he could pinch my lenses... Anyway, this is one of the pictures from my first attempt to do funky things with water and long exposures. http://cowfish.org.uk/paw/waterfall.html If anyone is going to say you need to do a better scan then, yes I do :) Thanks to whoever posted about the new Epson scanners coming out next month - I now have one of them on my shopping list, and my scans should become better after that... Comments/advice much appreciated. billy -- When you say things like that, do you actually believe other people know what you mean? Billy Abbott billy at cowfish dot org dot uk Cool Things Happen When Mac Users Meet! Join the community in Boston this July: www.macworldexpo.com
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Hey welcome :o) I love your picture rg2
