Re: PESO: Dublin House, New York (repost)
Rick, I am not sure that your classification is complete and thus I shall refrain from making my choice from the list below. I bypassed it because it did not catch my eye. I mean - it is technically good though I think it could use a wider angle of view to show more context. But it is like an observation shot. It neither shows what you thought/felt while taking it nor it makes me want to investigate it further. Hope you don't mind my honest brutality. Boris Rick Womer wrote: Posted a few days ago with no feedback at all. Since I sulk when I don't get attention, I'm posting it again: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5782865 Taken on a nocturnal stroll in Manhattan's upper west side a few weeks ago. Choose one: A. So boring that I fell asleep before I could comment on it B. So burdened with gross defects that tactful comment was impossible C. So ordinary that I just moved on to the next PESO D. So ravishing that I was paralyzed and couldn't comment on it E. All of the above Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Dublin House, New York (repost)
Not at all, Boris! --- Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hope you don't mind my honest brutality. Boris Rick Womer wrote: Posted a few days ago with no feedback at all. Since I sulk when I don't get attention, I'm posting it again: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5782865 Taken on a nocturnal stroll in Manhattan's upper west side a few weeks ago. Choose one: A. So boring that I fell asleep before I could comment on it B. So burdened with gross defects that tactful comment was impossible C. So ordinary that I just moved on to the next PESO D. So ravishing that I was paralyzed and couldn't comment on it E. All of the above Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Dublin House, New York (repost)
On 30/3/07, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed: Posted a few days ago with no feedback at all. Since I sulk when I don't get attention, I'm posting it again: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5782865 Taken on a nocturnal stroll in Manhattan's upper west side a few weeks ago. Choose one: A. So boring that I fell asleep before I could comment on it B. So burdened with gross defects that tactful comment was impossible C. So ordinary that I just moved on to the next PESO D. So ravishing that I was paralyzed and couldn't comment on it E. All of the above Rick Didn't see it the first time around. Minimal impact on me mate. I think if you're doing a sign like that, could be one of several ways. Straight on in my book has to be dead straight on with verticals vertical and horizontals horizontal. Further away, longer lens, fill the frame, 90 deg to subject if poss, correct angles if not. Or, maybe a wide angle almost directly underneath and to one side, nice wacky angle. Or maybe with the sign in relation to the building or a person. Framing is everything in a shot like this. Look at the first pic up in this gallery: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/6510837.stm In itself, the Queen sanding alone with the onlookers above is a nice shot. You can bet your sweet bippy that either side of her there are throngs of body guards, hosts, more onlookers etc etc. Selective framing has given the shot an edge that it would not have had otherwise. This technique is easily applied to the neon sign. The framing you present is neither here nor there to me. Too much empty space top and bottom, not 'straight' enough, a little obscured by building detail. Otherwise (what did the Romans ever do for us) nice shot ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Dublin House, New York (repost)
Yes, I see what you mean. My intention was to have both the sign and the stonework on the building stand out, but obviously that didn't work. Surrounding junk made the framing difficult. I'll have to go back there and try again sometime. Thanks to everyone for their comments. I'm not sulking anymore! Rick --- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30/3/07, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed: Posted a few days ago with no feedback at all. Since I sulk when I don't get attention, I'm posting it again: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5782865 Taken on a nocturnal stroll in Manhattan's upper west side a few weeks ago. Choose one: A. So boring that I fell asleep before I could comment on it B. So burdened with gross defects that tactful comment was impossible C. So ordinary that I just moved on to the next PESO D. So ravishing that I was paralyzed and couldn't comment on it E. All of the above Rick Didn't see it the first time around. Minimal impact on me mate. I think if you're doing a sign like that, could be one of several ways. Straight on in my book has to be dead straight on with verticals vertical and horizontals horizontal. Further away, longer lens, fill the frame, 90 deg to subject if poss, correct angles if not. Or, maybe a wide angle almost directly underneath and to one side, nice wacky angle. Or maybe with the sign in relation to the building or a person. Framing is everything in a shot like this. Look at the first pic up in this gallery: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/6510837.stm In itself, the Queen sanding alone with the onlookers above is a nice shot. You can bet your sweet bippy that either side of her there are throngs of body guards, hosts, more onlookers etc etc. Selective framing has given the shot an edge that it would not have had otherwise. This technique is easily applied to the neon sign. The framing you present is neither here nor there to me. Too much empty space top and bottom, not 'straight' enough, a little obscured by building detail. Otherwise (what did the Romans ever do for us) nice shot ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Dublin House, New York (repost)
A Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO: Dublin House, New York (repost) In a message dated 3/30/2007 6:55:29 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Posted a few days ago with no feedback at all. Since I sulk when I don't get attention, I'm posting it again: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5782865 Taken on a nocturnal stroll in Manhattan's upper west side a few weeks ago. Choose one: A. So boring that I fell asleep before I could comment on it B. So burdened with gross defects that tactful comment was impossible C. So ordinary that I just moved on to the next PESO D. So ravishing that I was paralyzed and couldn't comment on it E. All of the above Rick == A. I felt it was well done, but nothing that grabbed me. I need more than a sign. So I wouldn't say boring per se, just not engaging to me personally. But, yeah, it hoovers to get no comments at all. Marnie aka Doe ;-) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO: Dublin House, New York (repost)
Posted a few days ago with no feedback at all. Since I sulk when I don't get attention, I'm posting it again: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5782865 Taken on a nocturnal stroll in Manhattan's upper west side a few weeks ago. Choose one: A. So boring that I fell asleep before I could comment on it B. So burdened with gross defects that tactful comment was impossible C. So ordinary that I just moved on to the next PESO D. So ravishing that I was paralyzed and couldn't comment on it E. All of the above Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Dublin House, New York (repost)
I really should report an E grade, but I'll lie. ... ;-) Sorry; it is an interesting neon sign but there's nothing much else to note about it. G On Mar 30, 2007, at 6:46 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Posted a few days ago with no feedback at all. Since I sulk when I don't get attention, I'm posting it again: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5782865 Taken on a nocturnal stroll in Manhattan's upper west side a few weeks ago. Choose one: A. So boring that I fell asleep before I could comment on it B. So burdened with gross defects that tactful comment was impossible C. So ordinary that I just moved on to the next PESO D. So ravishing that I was paralyzed and couldn't comment on it E. All of the above -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Dublin House, New York (repost)
C, a St.Patrick's day photo. Regards, Bob S. On 3/30/07, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Posted a few days ago with no feedback at all. Since I sulk when I don't get attention, I'm posting it again: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5782865 Taken on a nocturnal stroll in Manhattan's upper west side a few weeks ago. Choose one: A. So boring that I fell asleep before I could comment on it B. So burdened with gross defects that tactful comment was impossible C. So ordinary that I just moved on to the next PESO D. So ravishing that I was paralyzed and couldn't comment on it E. All of the above Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Dublin House, New York (repost)
What about F. So overwhelmed by PDML posts that I missed it. Anyway, I've seen it now. Nice and colourful but the wires running across the sign detract a bit (you didn't have wire cutters handy, I take it.) Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Posted a few days ago with no feedback at all. Since I sulk when I don't get attention, I'm posting it again: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5782865 Taken on a nocturnal stroll in Manhattan's upper west side a few weeks ago. Choose one: A. So boring that I fell asleep before I could comment on it B. So burdened with gross defects that tactful comment was impossible C. So ordinary that I just moved on to the next PESO D. So ravishing that I was paralyzed and couldn't comment on it E. All of the above Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW -- Click to consolidate debt and lower month expenses http://tags.bluebottle.com/fc/CAaCMPJklAm222HYTPUv06JNwKSDQL9i/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO: Dublin House, New York (repost)
Hi Rick It's a B + C for me. With this shot I would have liked ISO400 on a monopod or handheld with a bit of underexposure and closer to the sign as well. But then I really dislike digital ISO 1600 noise so far as well on my own test shots even after the use of denoising software. Greetings Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Walters Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 4:10 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO: Dublin House, New York (repost) What about F. So overwhelmed by PDML posts that I missed it. Anyway, I've seen it now. Nice and colourful but the wires running across the sign detract a bit (you didn't have wire cutters handy, I take it.) Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Posted a few days ago with no feedback at all. Since I sulk when I don't get attention, I'm posting it again: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5782865 Taken on a nocturnal stroll in Manhattan's upper west side a few weeks ago. Choose one: A. So boring that I fell asleep before I could comment on it B. So burdened with gross defects that tactful comment was impossible C. So ordinary that I just moved on to the next PESO D. So ravishing that I was paralyzed and couldn't comment on it E. All of the above Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW -- Click to consolidate debt and lower month expenses http://tags.bluebottle.com/fc/CAaCMPJklAm222HYTPUv06JNwKSDQL9i/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Dublin House, New York (repost)
I'd say there's minimal noise here. Yes, it's just a picture of a sign, but noise doesn't appear to be a problem in the web sized image. paul On Mar 30, 2007, at 10:29 PM, Markus Maurer wrote: Hi Rick It's a B + C for me. With this shot I would have liked ISO400 on a monopod or handheld with a bit of underexposure and closer to the sign as well. But then I really dislike digital ISO 1600 noise so far as well on my own test shots even after the use of denoising software. Greetings Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Walters Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 4:10 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO: Dublin House, New York (repost) What about F. So overwhelmed by PDML posts that I missed it. Anyway, I've seen it now. Nice and colourful but the wires running across the sign detract a bit (you didn't have wire cutters handy, I take it.) Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Posted a few days ago with no feedback at all. Since I sulk when I don't get attention, I'm posting it again: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5782865 Taken on a nocturnal stroll in Manhattan's upper west side a few weeks ago. Choose one: A. So boring that I fell asleep before I could comment on it B. So burdened with gross defects that tactful comment was impossible C. So ordinary that I just moved on to the next PESO D. So ravishing that I was paralyzed and couldn't comment on it E. All of the above Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW -- Click to consolidate debt and lower month expenses http://tags.bluebottle.com/fc/CAaCMPJklAm222HYTPUv06JNwKSDQL9i/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Dublin House, New York (repost)
I don't think you're previous post showed up here. It's a nice shot. I'm an ex new yawker, so I like it:-). Paul On Mar 30, 2007, at 10:02 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: C, a St.Patrick's day photo. Regards, Bob S. On 3/30/07, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Posted a few days ago with no feedback at all. Since I sulk when I don't get attention, I'm posting it again: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5782865 Taken on a nocturnal stroll in Manhattan's upper west side a few weeks ago. Choose one: A. So boring that I fell asleep before I could comment on it B. So burdened with gross defects that tactful comment was impossible C. So ordinary that I just moved on to the next PESO D. So ravishing that I was paralyzed and couldn't comment on it E. All of the above Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW _ ___ Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Dublin House, New York (repost)
In a message dated 3/30/2007 6:55:29 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Posted a few days ago with no feedback at all. Since I sulk when I don't get attention, I'm posting it again: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5782865 Taken on a nocturnal stroll in Manhattan's upper west side a few weeks ago. Choose one: A. So boring that I fell asleep before I could comment on it B. So burdened with gross defects that tactful comment was impossible C. So ordinary that I just moved on to the next PESO D. So ravishing that I was paralyzed and couldn't comment on it E. All of the above Rick == A. I felt it was well done, but nothing that grabbed me. I need more than a sign. So I wouldn't say boring per se, just not engaging to me personally. But, yeah, it hoovers to get no comments at all. Marnie aka Doe ;-) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO: Dublin House, New York
Wandering the nocturnal streets of the upper west side of Manhattan, this sign interested me. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5782865 ist D, ISO 1600, RAW, DA 16-45, 1/90 @ f/4, via ACR and PE4. Applause, jeers, and constructive criticism all welcome. Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
