Re: PESO: Hageman Barn re-do
Thanks, "bitchy photog". ;) I'm not picking up what I would call "banding" in the sky. Center glow is the area of the sun. I'm, also, missing the lower left "photoshoperness". The only thing that did (I've moved on) bother me about this rendering was the roof halo on the small shed on the right. Maybe you can help me? Jack --- On Thu, 1/8/09, Joseph McAllister wrote: > From: Joseph McAllister > Subject: Re: PESO: Hageman Barn re-do > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 12:00 PM > On Jan 8, 2009, at 05:25 , Jack Davis wrote: > > > In response to comments, I've taken down the sky > to something more like its actual appearance and given it > more foreground. I, also, roughly cloned in the bottom edge > with dead grass to cover the asphalt edge of the roadway. > > Early and late sweet light is certainly an option, but > I feel this is more consistent with my impression at the > time. > > > > Jack > > > > Any comments gratefully accepted. > > > > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=372 > > > Nah. Now the banding in the sky and the photoshoppery in > the lower left are too distracting. > > You've (probably) plenty more lifetime to do a reshoot > that might please us bitchy photogs.. > > (Still love the barn) > > Joseph McAllister > Pentaxian > > http://gallery.me.com/jomac > http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Hageman Barn re-do
Hi Jack I think the colour of the barn and shed is a definite improvement but there is now distinct banding in the sky (on my monitor, at least) and the foreground is too oversaturated. If you could paste the old rendering as a layer over the new one and then use a layer mask to allow the new barn rendering to show though in full and the foreground in part, you may be on to something. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 05:25:47 -0800 (PST), "Jack Davis" said: > In response to comments, I've taken down the sky to something more like > its actual appearance and given it more foreground. I, also, roughly > cloned in the bottom edge with dead grass to cover the asphalt edge of > the roadway. > Early and late sweet light is certainly an option, but I feel this is > more consistent with my impression at the time. > > Jack > > Any comments gratefully accepted. > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=372 > > -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Accessible with your email software or over the web -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Hageman Barn re-do
On Jan 8, 2009, at 05:25 , Jack Davis wrote: In response to comments, I've taken down the sky to something more like its actual appearance and given it more foreground. I, also, roughly cloned in the bottom edge with dead grass to cover the asphalt edge of the roadway. Early and late sweet light is certainly an option, but I feel this is more consistent with my impression at the time. Jack Any comments gratefully accepted. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=372 Nah. Now the banding in the sky and the photoshoppery in the lower left are too distracting. You've (probably) plenty more lifetime to do a reshoot that might please us bitchy photogs.. (Still love the barn) Joseph McAllister Pentaxian http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Hageman Barn re-do
I don't believe so, Tim. I did no saturating other than a gentle nudge of the yellow. I focused on the barn and to me, it appears spot on. Fairly solid, fine textured boards for their apparent age. Not a lot of detail available, especially from this distance. Again, thanks much for commenting. Jack --- On Thu, 1/8/09, Tim Øsleby wrote: > From: Tim Øsleby > Subject: Re: PESO: Hageman Barn re-do > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 11:06 AM > I can't remember the original, probably didn't see > it. > > I like the lines in this one. The contrasting lines between > the green > and the red in the foreground mirrors the main motif. Thats > a fine > thing. > But the barn seems a tad less sharp than the foreground. I > think that > weakens the impact of the scene. > Could this be a consequence of boosting saturation and/or > contrast? > > -- > MaritimTim > > 2009/1/8 Jack Davis : > > In response to comments, I've taken down the sky > to something more like its actual appearance and given it > more foreground. I, also, roughly cloned in the bottom edge > with dead grass to cover the asphalt edge of the roadway. > > Early and late sweet light is certainly an option, but > I feel this is more consistent with my impression at the > time. > > > > Jack > > > > Any comments gratefully accepted. > > > > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=372 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Hageman Barn re-do
I can't remember the original, probably didn't see it. I like the lines in this one. The contrasting lines between the green and the red in the foreground mirrors the main motif. Thats a fine thing. But the barn seems a tad less sharp than the foreground. I think that weakens the impact of the scene. Could this be a consequence of boosting saturation and/or contrast? -- MaritimTim 2009/1/8 Jack Davis : > In response to comments, I've taken down the sky to something more like its > actual appearance and given it more foreground. I, also, roughly cloned in > the bottom edge with dead grass to cover the asphalt edge of the roadway. > Early and late sweet light is certainly an option, but I feel this is more > consistent with my impression at the time. > > Jack > > Any comments gratefully accepted. > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=372 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Hageman Barn re-do
Thanks, Luiz. As far as the lighting and color are concerned, you're a member of the "keep it in check" faction (as originally rendered) and this treatment was for the "liven it up" group. A balanced rendering. ;-) Jack --- On Thu, 1/8/09, Luiz Felipe wrote: > From: Luiz Felipe > Subject: Re: PESO: Hageman Barn re-do > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 7:07 AM > Jack, I like the extra foreground, but the new color just > seems to > intense for the scene. I'd say the second framing with > just a small > increase in color from the first shot would pretty much > get it done - > for this particular point of view. Keep that barn in > check... > > LF > > Jack Davis escreveu: > > In response to comments, I've taken down the sky > to something more like its actual appearance and given it > more foreground. I, also, roughly cloned in the bottom edge > with dead grass to cover the asphalt edge of the roadway. > > Early and late sweet light is certainly an option, but > I feel this is more consistent with my impression at the > time. > > > > Jack > > > > Any comments gratefully accepted. > > > > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=372 > > > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > > > > > > > > -- > Luiz Felipe > luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br > http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Hageman Barn re-do
Jack, I like the extra foreground, but the new color just seems to intense for the scene. I'd say the second framing with just a small increase in color from the first shot would pretty much get it done - for this particular point of view. Keep that barn in check... LF Jack Davis escreveu: In response to comments, I've taken down the sky to something more like its actual appearance and given it more foreground. I, also, roughly cloned in the bottom edge with dead grass to cover the asphalt edge of the roadway. Early and late sweet light is certainly an option, but I feel this is more consistent with my impression at the time. Jack Any comments gratefully accepted. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=372 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Hageman Barn re-do
Yes, I agree with you about the grass. I nudged the yellow slider a little to warm the scene and although color seem to pop in this kind of lighting, I probably should have brought down the green some. Thanks, Rick! Jack --- On Thu, 1/8/09, Rick Womer wrote: > From: Rick Womer > Subject: Re: PESO: Hageman Barn re-do > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 6:01 AM > A definite improvement. The green grass is a bit > over-saturated, but it is a nice image. > > Rick > > http://photo.net/photos/RickW > > > --- On Thu, 1/8/09, Jack Davis > wrote: > > > From: Jack Davis > > Subject: PESO: Hageman Barn re-do > > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > > > Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 8:25 AM > > In response to comments, I've taken down the sky > to > > something more like its actual appearance and given it > more > > foreground. I, also, roughly cloned in the bottom edge > with > > dead grass to cover the asphalt edge of the roadway. > > Early and late sweet light is certainly an option, but > I > > feel this is more consistent with my impression at the > time. > > > > Jack > > > > Any comments gratefully accepted. > > > > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=372 > > > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > > directly above and follow the directions. > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Hageman Barn re-do
A definite improvement. The green grass is a bit over-saturated, but it is a nice image. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Thu, 1/8/09, Jack Davis wrote: > From: Jack Davis > Subject: PESO: Hageman Barn re-do > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 8:25 AM > In response to comments, I've taken down the sky to > something more like its actual appearance and given it more > foreground. I, also, roughly cloned in the bottom edge with > dead grass to cover the asphalt edge of the roadway. > Early and late sweet light is certainly an option, but I > feel this is more consistent with my impression at the time. > > Jack > > Any comments gratefully accepted. > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=372 > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Hageman Barn re-do
In response to comments, I've taken down the sky to something more like its actual appearance and given it more foreground. I, also, roughly cloned in the bottom edge with dead grass to cover the asphalt edge of the roadway. Early and late sweet light is certainly an option, but I feel this is more consistent with my impression at the time. Jack Any comments gratefully accepted. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=372 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.