Re: PESO:...(was PESO: Maja)

2008-01-19 Thread Christine Aguila
Bong:  I greatly enjoyed reading your back story!  I've had just those kinds 
of moments as well.  "Spokes" is very nice, yes, very, very nice.  Enjoyed 
seeing that. Bong, it was very good of you to supply such a generous & 
thorough answer.  It's greatly appreciated.
Big cheers, Christine



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From: "Bong Manayon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Hi Christine,

Hmmm...this is harder than I thought :-D

First off, I just took this shot ->
http://www.bong.uni.cc/peso/2008-05.htm <- a couple of days before, so
it was lingering in my head.  It's a wheel of a horse drawn carriage
(remember "Looking Back"?) and it is quite new and the details crisp.
It's sort of a "straight-on angle and from down low" simple because
the thing is quite big (the diameter is almost 4 feet).

So while I was waiting for my son to come of out school, I had my DS
with the Takumar 135/2.5 *only* (remember I was inspired by Timber to
pull it out of the bag) looking for target of opportunities.  So then
the ice-cream cart got my attention; and the place was crowded with
screaming kids just out of school limiting my options in position
myself.  That explains a lot the angle (besides the fact that the
wheel is about a foot and a half in diameter); it was awkward given
the situation to go low.

Then to make my life harder, I decided to move backwards to get the
whole thing; I figure I had the close up of the other wheel that it
feels like a cliché if I took another close-up.  Besides, the ice
cream felt like it had a lot of stories to tell, not only its wheel.

>From then on, it was waiting for the right moment (when no kid was
running in front of the cart).

Thanks for your comments!

Bong

On Jan 19, 2008 12:43 PM, Christine  Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bong:  I really like your shot & subject.  But I do have one question: 
> why
> did you shoot it from the angle you did?  I ask this because what's of
> interest to me in the shot is the color & patterns & shapes.  The spokes 
> of
> the wheel have some very interesting colors & patterns.  Why not shoot 
> from
> an angle that shows them off--or rather shows them off more than in the
> angle you chose? Like a straight-on angle and from down low.   I ask this
> question in earnest and as a novice photographer.
> Cheers, Christine
>
>
>
>
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> Subject: PESO:...(was PESO: Maja)
>
>
> > Timber's use of the Takumar (K-mount) 135/2.5 inspired me to take mine
> > out for a walk...
> >
> > http://www.bong.uni.cc/peso/2008-04.htm
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Re: PESO:...(was PESO: Maja)

2008-01-19 Thread David J Brooks
Good shot and angle. Colours jump out

Dave

On Jan 18, 2008 7:37 PM, Bong Manayon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Timber's use of the Takumar (K-mount) 135/2.5 inspired me to take mine
> out for a walk...
>
> http://www.bong.uni.cc/peso/2008-04.htm
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Re: PESO:...(was PESO: Maja)

2008-01-18 Thread Bong Manayon
Hi Christine,

Hmmm...this is harder than I thought :-D

First off, I just took this shot ->
http://www.bong.uni.cc/peso/2008-05.htm <- a couple of days before, so
it was lingering in my head.  It's a wheel of a horse drawn carriage
(remember "Looking Back"?) and it is quite new and the details crisp.
It's sort of a "straight-on angle and from down low" simple because
the thing is quite big (the diameter is almost 4 feet).

So while I was waiting for my son to come of out school, I had my DS
with the Takumar 135/2.5 *only* (remember I was inspired by Timber to
pull it out of the bag) looking for target of opportunities.  So then
the ice-cream cart got my attention; and the place was crowded with
screaming kids just out of school limiting my options in position
myself.  That explains a lot the angle (besides the fact that the
wheel is about a foot and a half in diameter); it was awkward given
the situation to go low.

Then to make my life harder, I decided to move backwards to get the
whole thing; I figure I had the close up of the other wheel that it
feels like a cliché if I took another close-up.  Besides, the ice
cream felt like it had a lot of stories to tell, not only its wheel.

>From then on, it was waiting for the right moment (when no kid was
running in front of the cart).

Thanks for your comments!

Bong

On Jan 19, 2008 12:43 PM, Christine  Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bong:  I really like your shot & subject.  But I do have one question:  why
> did you shoot it from the angle you did?  I ask this because what's of
> interest to me in the shot is the color & patterns & shapes.  The spokes of
> the wheel have some very interesting colors & patterns.  Why not shoot from
> an angle that shows them off--or rather shows them off more than in the
> angle you chose? Like a straight-on angle and from down low.   I ask this
> question in earnest and as a novice photographer.
> Cheers, Christine
>
>
>
>
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> From: "Bong Manayon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 6:37 PM
> Subject: PESO:...(was PESO: Maja)
>
>
> > Timber's use of the Takumar (K-mount) 135/2.5 inspired me to take mine
> > out for a walk...
> >
> > http://www.bong.uni.cc/peso/2008-04.htm
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Re: PESO:...(was PESO: Maja)

2008-01-18 Thread Christine Aguila
Bong:  I really like your shot & subject.  But I do have one question:  why 
did you shoot it from the angle you did?  I ask this because what's of 
interest to me in the shot is the color & patterns & shapes.  The spokes of 
the wheel have some very interesting colors & patterns.  Why not shoot from 
an angle that shows them off--or rather shows them off more than in the 
angle you chose? Like a straight-on angle and from down low.   I ask this 
question in earnest and as a novice photographer.
Cheers, Christine



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Subject: PESO:...(was PESO: Maja)


> Timber's use of the Takumar (K-mount) 135/2.5 inspired me to take mine
> out for a walk...
>
> http://www.bong.uni.cc/peso/2008-04.htm
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Re: PESO:...(was PESO: Maja)

2008-01-18 Thread Bruce Dayton
Nice shot, good eye.

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Friday, January 18, 2008, 4:37:39 PM, you wrote:

BM> Timber's use of the Takumar (K-mount) 135/2.5 inspired me to take mine
BM> out for a walk...

BM> http://www.bong.uni.cc/peso/2008-04.htm

BM> Bong
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PESO:...(was PESO: Maja)

2008-01-18 Thread Bong Manayon
Timber's use of the Takumar (K-mount) 135/2.5 inspired me to take mine
out for a walk...

http://www.bong.uni.cc/peso/2008-04.htm

Bong
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Re: PESO: Maja

2008-01-17 Thread John Bailey
I think the "manipulated" image is interesting.
Many artists use the photograph for the raw material.

I prefer the "out of the camera" image and the wisps
of hair.  I like the spontaneous or spur of the moment
look.

John

--- Timber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> A friend ask me a few sample shots with older manual
> lenses and this 
> shot "happened" during the shots ^.^ I already liked
> the original 'out 
> of camera' version but today I decided to load it in
> Photoshop and 
> here's the final result:
> http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/91759282
> 
> Here's the original out of camera version:
> http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/91714180
> 
> I know that little mop of hair is a bit
> 'distracting', but it wasn't a 
> set-up shooting and I was unable to remove it with
> Photoshop :P
> equip:
> Pentax K10D, Pentax Takumar (bayonet) f2.5/135mm
> @f4, Metz flash with 
> home made bouncer (aka white office paper+rubber
> ring ^.^), handheld
> 
> And if anyone else is interested here's the result
> of my little 'lens 
> test' (nothing serious...):
> http://timber.clancode.hu/lens_test/portrait/
> (I will re-shoot with the 135mm Sonnar to have PEF
> version :D)
> 
> Comments, critics and advices are always welcomed
> ^.^
> 
> Hope you enjoy
> .timber
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Re: PESO: Maja

2008-01-17 Thread Toralf Lund
Timber wrote:
> A friend ask me a few sample shots with older manual lenses and this 
> shot "happened" during the shots ^.^ I already liked the original 'out 
> of camera' version but today I decided to load it in Photoshop and 
> here's the final result:
>   
I definitely prefer the original. I don't mind the hair, either.

- Toralf

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Re: PESO: Maja

2008-01-16 Thread Bong Manayon
What Godfrey said ... :-)

More importantly, for me, is that you've gotten my interest into that
Takumar lens again.  I think I should take mine out for a walk ...

Bong

On Jan 17, 2008 2:10 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Jan 16, 2008, at 5:27 PM, Timber wrote:
>
> > A friend ask me a few sample shots with older manual lenses and this
> > shot "happened" during the shots ^.^ I already liked the original 'out
> > of camera' version but today I decided to load it in Photoshop and
> > here's the final result:
> > http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/91759282
> >
> > Here's the original out of camera version:
> > http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/91714180
>
> I like both. They're very different. The original is a pretty
> standard, pleasant full face portrait. The massaged version pulls it
> out into a graphic abstraction.
>
> Godfrey
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Re: PESO: Maja

2008-01-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Jan 16, 2008, at 5:27 PM, Timber wrote:

> A friend ask me a few sample shots with older manual lenses and this
> shot "happened" during the shots ^.^ I already liked the original 'out
> of camera' version but today I decided to load it in Photoshop and
> here's the final result:
> http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/91759282
>
> Here's the original out of camera version:
> http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/91714180

I like both. They're very different. The original is a pretty  
standard, pleasant full face portrait. The massaged version pulls it  
out into a graphic abstraction.

Godfrey

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Re: PESO: Maja

2008-01-16 Thread Igor Roshchin

Timber,

I think what you are trying to achieve is an interesting idea, -
in the sense of the BW-ish look with blue eyes and pink lips, but
you've overdone it. I don't like most of the face skin being completely
overblown.

As for the original version, - I would play a little bit with the
tones/levels and possibly sharpening. 
However, I don't have a good feel at the moment, what exactly should 
be changed, possibly bringing up the lower handle of the "levels" in PS,
enhancing the "black" a bit, or enhancing the contrast just a bit...

Igor


Timber wrote:
> A friend ask me a few sample shots with older manual
> lenses and this 
> shot "happened" during the shots ^.^ I already liked
> the original 'out 
> of camera' version but today I decided to load it in
> Photoshop and 
> here's the final result:
> http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/91759282
> 
> Here's the original out of camera version:
> http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/91714180
> 
> I know that little mop of hair is a bit
> 'distracting', but it wasn't a 
> set-up shooting and I was unable to remove it with
> Photoshop :P
> equip:
> Pentax K10D, Pentax Takumar (bayonet) f2.5/135mm
> @f4, Metz flash with 
> home made bouncer (aka white office paper+rubber
> ring ^.^), handheld
> 
> And if anyone else is interested here's the result
> of my little 'lens 
> test' (nothing serious...):
> http://timber.clancode.hu/lens_test/portrait/
> (I will re-shoot with the 135mm Sonnar to have PEF
> version :D)
> 
> Comments, critics and advices are always welcomed
> ^.^
> 
> Hope you enjoy
> .timber

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Re: PESO: Maja

2008-01-16 Thread Rick Womer
Timber,

Call me old-fashioned, but I prefer the "original out
of camera" version.

Rick

--- Timber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> A friend ask me a few sample shots with older manual
> lenses and this 
> shot "happened" during the shots ^.^ I already liked
> the original 'out 
> of camera' version but today I decided to load it in
> Photoshop and 
> here's the final result:
> http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/91759282
> 
> Here's the original out of camera version:
> http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/91714180
> 
> I know that little mop of hair is a bit
> 'distracting', but it wasn't a 
> set-up shooting and I was unable to remove it with
> Photoshop :P
> equip:
> Pentax K10D, Pentax Takumar (bayonet) f2.5/135mm
> @f4, Metz flash with 
> home made bouncer (aka white office paper+rubber
> ring ^.^), handheld
> 
> And if anyone else is interested here's the result
> of my little 'lens 
> test' (nothing serious...):
> http://timber.clancode.hu/lens_test/portrait/
> (I will re-shoot with the 135mm Sonnar to have PEF
> version :D)
> 
> Comments, critics and advices are always welcomed
> ^.^
> 
> Hope you enjoy
> .timber
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PESO: Maja

2008-01-16 Thread Timber
A friend ask me a few sample shots with older manual lenses and this 
shot "happened" during the shots ^.^ I already liked the original 'out 
of camera' version but today I decided to load it in Photoshop and 
here's the final result:
http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/91759282

Here's the original out of camera version:
http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/91714180

I know that little mop of hair is a bit 'distracting', but it wasn't a 
set-up shooting and I was unable to remove it with Photoshop :P
equip:
Pentax K10D, Pentax Takumar (bayonet) f2.5/135mm @f4, Metz flash with 
home made bouncer (aka white office paper+rubber ring ^.^), handheld

And if anyone else is interested here's the result of my little 'lens 
test' (nothing serious...):
http://timber.clancode.hu/lens_test/portrait/
(I will re-shoot with the 135mm Sonnar to have PEF version :D)

Comments, critics and advices are always welcomed ^.^

Hope you enjoy
.timber

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