Re: PESO: Perfect Form

2009-04-13 Thread David J Brooks
I should have looked at this one first.:-)

Yes good form and concentration. I like it better this way, with the
full rod in the shot.

Dave

On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Another one of Grace spin casting. I like this one a bit more. Both of
 these, btw, employ the AF 540 FGZ flash in high speed synch mode. ISO 200 f4
 @ 1/1000th. Couldn't really get a shot in the middle of the day without
 flash. But with backlight and fill it can work.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8953821

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Re: PESO: Perfect Form

2009-04-13 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:29 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 I should have looked at this one first.:-)

 Yes good form and concentration. I like it better this way, with the
 full rod in the shot.

My thoughts, too.

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PESO: Perfect Form

2009-04-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
Another one of Grace spin casting. I like this one a bit more. Both of  
these, btw, employ the AF 540 FGZ flash in high speed synch mode. ISO  
200 f4 @ 1/1000th. Couldn't really get a shot in the middle of the day  
without flash. But with backlight and fill it can work.


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Re: PESO: Perfect Form

2009-04-12 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul,
I like this one better than 'fisherwoman' on account of her body
english in the casting.
Both fun pictures...
Regards, Bob S.

On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Another one of Grace spin casting. I like this one a bit more. Both of
 these, btw, employ the AF 540 FGZ flash in high speed synch mode. ISO 200 f4
 @ 1/1000th. Couldn't really get a shot in the middle of the day without
 flash. But with backlight and fill it can work.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8953821

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Re: PESO: Perfect Form

2009-04-12 Thread paul stenquist

I agree. Thanks for looking.
Paul
On Apr 12, 2009, at 8:58 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:


Paul,
I like this one better than 'fisherwoman' on account of her body
english in the casting.
Both fun pictures...
Regards, Bob S.

On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
Another one of Grace spin casting. I like this one a bit more. Both  
of
these, btw, employ the AF 540 FGZ flash in high speed synch mode.  
ISO 200 f4
@ 1/1000th. Couldn't really get a shot in the middle of the day  
without

flash. But with backlight and fill it can work.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8953821

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Re: PESO: Perfect Form

2009-04-12 Thread Jack Davis

Put up a shot or two of the bass you two catch.

Jack


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 Another one of Grace spin casting. I like this one a bit
 more. Both of these, btw, employ the AF 540 FGZ flash in
 high speed synch mode. ISO 200 f4 @ 1/1000th. Couldn't
 really get a shot in the middle of the day without flash.
 But with backlight and fill it can work.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8953821
 
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Re: PESO: Perfect Form

2008-04-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
I have to put on my glasses and look at it:-).
On Apr 8, 2008, at 11:56 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
 I have to say I agree with the other comments, the grass seems to  
 be in
 perfect focus.

 Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Or a decent shot with an imperfect lens.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7147418

 Two things here.
 First: I'm training Grace to be a placekicker in the NFL. Note the
 perfect form. Hand out for balance. Head down. She's a natural.

 Second: Shot this with the obviously defective DA* 16-50/2.8 . Looks
 okay, doesn't it? And most shots will. Real world shooting doesn't
 always reveal defects. But someday when shooting a nearly flat scene
 wide open, one side of the shot will be a bit soft. The lens costs
 far too much to tolerate that kind of performance. Sometimes it's
 good to test. But only rarely:-).
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Re: PESO: Perfect Form

2008-04-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
I wouldn't have tried to guess from this shot, since it was  
continuous autofocus. But it could be backfocused. Once side of the  
frame was backfocusing a considerable amount, but not enough to  
extend from her head to the grass:-).
Paul
On Apr 8, 2008, at 10:37 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
 Looks like major back focus.(?) Nice sharp grass well behind a soft
 (but cute) Grace.

 Jack

 --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Or a decent shot with an imperfect lens.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7147418

 Two things here.
 First: I'm training Grace to be a placekicker in the NFL. Note the
 perfect form. Hand out for balance. Head down. She's a natural.

 Second: Shot this with the obviously defective DA* 16-50/2.8 . Looks

 okay, doesn't it? And most shots will. Real world shooting doesn't
 always reveal defects. But someday when shooting a nearly flat scene

 wide open, one side of the shot will be a bit soft. The lens costs
 far too much to tolerate that kind of performance. Sometimes it's
 good to test. But only rarely:-).
 Paul

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Re: PESO: Perfect Form

2008-04-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks to all who commented.
But this is a bad example of what I was trying to demonstrate.  
Looking at it in the morning with glasses on I have to say you're all  
correct. The grass is in focus. That's a matter of photographer  
failure or continuous autofocus failure rather than the lens being  
out of whack. It's not out by three feet! :-)). Probably didn't catch  
another autofocus update before pulling the trigger. I processed this  
late at night and was smitten by the image. But I can't really detect  
soft without glasses -- or a diopter adjustment. So there you have  
it. But I do like Grace's form, and I am planning an NFL career for her.
On Apr 8, 2008, at 10:29 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Or a decent shot with an imperfect lens.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7147418

 Two things here.
 First: I'm training Grace to be a placekicker in the NFL. Note the
 perfect form. Hand out for balance. Head down. She's a natural.

 Second: Shot this with the obviously defective DA* 16-50/2.8 . Looks
 okay, doesn't it? And most shots will. Real world shooting doesn't
 always reveal defects. But someday when shooting a nearly flat scene
 wide open, one side of the shot will be a bit soft. The lens costs
 far too much to tolerate that kind of performance. Sometimes it's
 good to test. But only rarely:-).
 Paul

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Re: PESO: Perfect Form

2008-04-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yep! Based on that shot, it would appear your lens is just fine. The  
left side would have been noticeably soft if shot with my lens.  I'm  
hoping that the vast majority of them are just that. I'll have  
another on Thursday.
Paul
On Apr 9, 2008, at 12:47 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


 I shoot so much almost flat subject matter a lens defect like this
 should be apparent pretty quickly. Like this one:

 http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/46b.htm

 All I can see from the un-processed exposure is that I was a little
 off from dead-on to the subject. Focus seems just fine.

 G

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Re: PESO: Perfect Form

2008-04-09 Thread David J Brooks
So its not just me then. I thought so to.

Dave

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:56 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have to say I agree with the other comments, the grass seems to be in
  perfect focus.


  Paul Stenquist wrote:
   Or a decent shot with an imperfect lens.
  
   http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7147418
  
   Two things here.
   First: I'm training Grace to be a placekicker in the NFL. Note the
   perfect form. Hand out for balance. Head down. She's a natural.
  
   Second: Shot this with the obviously defective DA* 16-50/2.8 . Looks
   okay, doesn't it? And most shots will. Real world shooting doesn't
   always reveal defects. But someday when shooting a nearly flat scene
   wide open, one side of the shot will be a bit soft. The lens costs
   far too much to tolerate that kind of performance. Sometimes it's
   good to test. But only rarely:-).
   Paul
  
  


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Re: PESO: Perfect Form

2008-04-09 Thread P. J. Alling
It may be you, but you're not unique.

David J Brooks wrote:
 So its not just me then. I thought so to.

 Dave

 On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:56 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 I have to say I agree with the other comments, the grass seems to be in
  perfect focus.


  Paul Stenquist wrote:
   Or a decent shot with an imperfect lens.
  
   http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7147418
  
   Two things here.
   First: I'm training Grace to be a placekicker in the NFL. Note the
   perfect form. Hand out for balance. Head down. She's a natural.
  
   Second: Shot this with the obviously defective DA* 16-50/2.8 . Looks
   okay, doesn't it? And most shots will. Real world shooting doesn't
   always reveal defects. But someday when shooting a nearly flat scene
   wide open, one side of the shot will be a bit soft. The lens costs
   far too much to tolerate that kind of performance. Sometimes it's
   good to test. But only rarely:-).
   Paul
  
  


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Re: PESO: Perfect Form

2008-04-09 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:41 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It may be you, but you're not unique.

There goes my day.:-)

I had that on my business cards, now i have to remove it.


Dave



  David J Brooks wrote:
   So its not just me then. I thought so to.
  
   Dave
  
   On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:56 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I have to say I agree with the other comments, the grass seems to be in
perfect focus.
  
  
Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Or a decent shot with an imperfect lens.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7147418

 Two things here.
 First: I'm training Grace to be a placekicker in the NFL. Note the
 perfect form. Hand out for balance. Head down. She's a natural.

 Second: Shot this with the obviously defective DA* 16-50/2.8 . Looks
 okay, doesn't it? And most shots will. Real world shooting doesn't
 always reveal defects. But someday when shooting a nearly flat scene
 wide open, one side of the shot will be a bit soft. The lens costs
 far too much to tolerate that kind of performance. Sometimes it's
 good to test. But only rarely:-).
 Paul


  
  
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Re: PESO: Perfect Form

2008-04-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
It could still be just you:-)
Paul
On Apr 9, 2008, at 12:27 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
 So its not just me then. I thought so to.

 Dave

 On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:56 PM, P. J. Alling  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have to say I agree with the other comments, the grass seems to  
 be in
  perfect focus.


  Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Or a decent shot with an imperfect lens.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7147418

 Two things here.
 First: I'm training Grace to be a placekicker in the NFL. Note the
 perfect form. Hand out for balance. Head down. She's a natural.

 Second: Shot this with the obviously defective DA* 16-50/2.8 . Looks
 okay, doesn't it? And most shots will. Real world shooting doesn't
 always reveal defects. But someday when shooting a nearly flat scene
 wide open, one side of the shot will be a bit soft. The lens costs
 far too much to tolerate that kind of performance. Sometimes it's
 good to test. But only rarely:-).
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Re: PESO: Perfect Form

2008-04-09 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Or a decent shot with an imperfect lens.

  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7147418

  Two things here.
  First: I'm training Grace to be a placekicker in the NFL. Note the
  perfect form. Hand out for balance. Head down. She's a natural.
snip

Tom Dempsey's record will finally fall...

;-)

She's a natural, Paul!

cheers,
frank

ps:  cute pic (as always with Grace)

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Re: PESO: Perfect Form

2008-04-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Frank. She's a jock. Have to sign her up for pee-wee soccer.
Paul
On Apr 9, 2008, at 4:23 PM, frank theriault wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Paul Stenquist  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Or a decent shot with an imperfect lens.

  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7147418

  Two things here.
  First: I'm training Grace to be a placekicker in the NFL. Note the
  perfect form. Hand out for balance. Head down. She's a natural.
 snip

 Tom Dempsey's record will finally fall...

 ;-)

 She's a natural, Paul!

 cheers,
 frank

 ps:  cute pic (as always with Grace)

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Re: PESO: Perfect Form

2008-04-09 Thread David J Brooks
At least you put a smilie, not liek PJ.:-)

Dave

On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It could still be just you:-)
  Paul


 On Apr 9, 2008, at 12:27 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
   So its not just me then. I thought so to.
  
   Dave
  
   On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:56 PM, P. J. Alling
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I have to say I agree with the other comments, the grass seems to
   be in
perfect focus.
  
  
Paul Stenquist wrote:
   Or a decent shot with an imperfect lens.
  
   http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7147418
  
   Two things here.
   First: I'm training Grace to be a placekicker in the NFL. Note the
   perfect form. Hand out for balance. Head down. She's a natural.
  
   Second: Shot this with the obviously defective DA* 16-50/2.8 . Looks
   okay, doesn't it? And most shots will. Real world shooting doesn't
   always reveal defects. But someday when shooting a nearly flat scene
   wide open, one side of the shot will be a bit soft. The lens costs
   far too much to tolerate that kind of performance. Sometimes it's
   good to test. But only rarely:-).
   Paul
  
  
  
  
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PESO: Perfect Form

2008-04-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
Or a decent shot with an imperfect lens.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7147418

Two things here.
First: I'm training Grace to be a placekicker in the NFL. Note the  
perfect form. Hand out for balance. Head down. She's a natural.

Second: Shot this with the obviously defective DA* 16-50/2.8 . Looks  
okay, doesn't it? And most shots will. Real world shooting doesn't  
always reveal defects. But someday when shooting a nearly flat scene  
wide open, one side of the shot will be a bit soft. The lens costs  
far too much to tolerate that kind of performance. Sometimes it's  
good to test. But only rarely:-).
Paul

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Re: PESO: Perfect Form

2008-04-08 Thread Charles Robinson
On Apr 8, 2008, at 21:29, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Or a decent shot with an imperfect lens.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7147418

 Two things here.
 First: I'm training Grace to be a placekicker in the NFL. Note the
 perfect form. Hand out for balance. Head down. She's a natural.

 Second: Shot this with the obviously defective DA* 16-50/2.8 . Looks
 okay, doesn't it?

Actually, I was noticing that it's nicely focused - on the grass on  
the ground behind her!  (oh well)

  -Charles

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Re: PESO: Perfect Form

2008-04-08 Thread Jack Davis
Looks like major back focus.(?) Nice sharp grass well behind a soft
(but cute) Grace.

Jack 

--- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Or a decent shot with an imperfect lens.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7147418
 
 Two things here.
 First: I'm training Grace to be a placekicker in the NFL. Note the  
 perfect form. Hand out for balance. Head down. She's a natural.
 
 Second: Shot this with the obviously defective DA* 16-50/2.8 . Looks 
 
 okay, doesn't it? And most shots will. Real world shooting doesn't  
 always reveal defects. But someday when shooting a nearly flat scene 
 
 wide open, one side of the shot will be a bit soft. The lens costs  
 far too much to tolerate that kind of performance. Sometimes it's  
 good to test. But only rarely:-).
 Paul
 
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Re: PESO: Perfect Form

2008-04-08 Thread P. J. Alling
I have to say I agree with the other comments, the grass seems to be in 
perfect focus. 

Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Or a decent shot with an imperfect lens.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7147418

 Two things here.
 First: I'm training Grace to be a placekicker in the NFL. Note the  
 perfect form. Hand out for balance. Head down. She's a natural.

 Second: Shot this with the obviously defective DA* 16-50/2.8 . Looks  
 okay, doesn't it? And most shots will. Real world shooting doesn't  
 always reveal defects. But someday when shooting a nearly flat scene  
 wide open, one side of the shot will be a bit soft. The lens costs  
 far too much to tolerate that kind of performance. Sometimes it's  
 good to test. But only rarely:-).
 Paul

   


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Re: PESO: Perfect Form

2008-04-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Apr 8, 2008, at 7:29 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Or a decent shot with an imperfect lens.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7147418

 Two things here.
 First: I'm training Grace to be a placekicker in the NFL. Note the
 perfect form. Hand out for balance. Head down. She's a natural.

LOL ... funny.

You're focused a little behind her in this photo. Her hand on the  
right is in focus but her face isn't.

 Second: Shot this with the obviously defective DA* 16-50/2.8 . Looks
 okay, doesn't it? And most shots will. Real world shooting doesn't
 always reveal defects. But someday when shooting a nearly flat scene
 wide open, one side of the shot will be a bit soft. The lens costs
 far too much to tolerate that kind of performance. Sometimes it's
 good to test. But only rarely:-).

I shoot so much almost flat subject matter a lens defect like this  
should be apparent pretty quickly. Like this one:

http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/46b.htm

All I can see from the un-processed exposure is that I was a little  
off from dead-on to the subject. Focus seems just fine.

G

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